Support - OS 1.8.0 - MIDI-OX Doesn't like the syx file

[framefour]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let anyone at support who's reading this know that MIDI-OX does not seem to like the 1.8.0 .syx file, at all.

I've tested on 3 different Windows machines running the latest version of MIDI-OX, with the default settings (And also adjusting the output buffer settings Num and Size to 1024 as recommended by the update guide)

All 3 failed in the same exact way. I've tried using both USB from OB6 direct to pc, as well as classic MIDI outs with an M-AUDIO Midisport 4x4.

The problem isn't the synth, or the MIDI interfaces. It's the syx file for sure. MIDI-OX basically has some sort of stroke when you send the file, and there is 0 data activity that flows through the outputs, even though MIDI-OX happily streams all the hex code across the output window as if it's doing things. It's not. It sits there, not sending a single byte out.

I then switched to another known good syx file, and midi-ox happily starts sending, and I can confirm by seeing the MIDI OUT LEDs start to flash in rapid succession.

I don't know of any other recommended Windows Sysex software, although I'm going to give Bome Send SX a try next time.

If I hadn't had a spare MacBook laying around (SysEx Librarian <3), I wouldn'tve been able to update my OB6

Please have a look at the syx file. Perhaps it's too large for MIDI-OX to understand, or there's some sort of hex command that's causing the entire datastream to halt?

Just wanted to throw this out there in case anyone else hasn't tried, and ultimately thinks it's their OB6 or MIDI interface being faulty.

I'm happy to be a guinea pig to test further as well.

Nothing but love for Sequential, Dave Smith, and Oberheim by the way. Thank you for all that you do!

[Quatschmacher]

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to let anyone at support who's reading this know that MIDI-OX does not seem to like the 1.8.0 .syx file, at all.

I've tested on 3 different Windows machines running the latest version of MIDI-OX, with the default settings (And also adjusting the output buffer settings Num and Size to 1024 as recommended by the update guide)

All 3 failed in the same exact way. I've tried using both USB from OB6 direct to pc, as well as classic MIDI outs with an M-AUDIO Midisport 4x4.

The problem isn't the synth, or the MIDI interfaces. It's the syx file for sure. MIDI-OX basically has some sort of stroke when you send the file, and there is 0 data activity that flows through the outputs, even though MIDI-OX happily streams all the hex code across the output window as if it's doing things. It's not. It sits there, not sending a single byte out.

I then switched to another known good syx file, and midi-ox happily starts sending, and I can confirm by seeing the MIDI OUT LEDs start to flash in rapid succession.

I don't know of any other recommended Windows Sysex software, although I'm going to give Bome Send SX a try next time.

If I hadn't had a spare MacBook laying around (SysEx Librarian <3), I wouldn'tve been able to update my OB6

Please have a look at the syx file. Perhaps it's too large for MIDI-OX to understand, or there's some sort of hex command that's causing the entire datastream to halt?

Just wanted to throw this out there in case anyone else hasn't tried, and ultimately thinks it's their OB6 or MIDI interface being faulty.

I'm happy to be a guinea pig to test further as well.

Nothing but love for Sequential, Dave Smith, and Oberheim by the way. Thank you for all that you do!

Email support@sequential.com if you want a guarantee that this will be read by the right people.

[Teiko]

I can confirm. I needed maybe 20 runs to install the 1.8.0 firmware successfully from 1.6.6.

Tried all the different size parameters.

At the end there was only one configration of the buffers in MIDI-OX which worked out and ONLY using MIDI !! USB failed at every setting...

[kvitekp]

Just updated my OB-6 module from 1.74 to 1.8 via USB using MIDI-OX running under Parallels on Windows 10 on. MacBook Pro using recommended procedure.

Just for fun updated it again via MIDI using the same MIDI-OX and U6MIDI Pro -- everything works as expected.

[LPF83]

What worked for me (using USB, Windows 11) was to lower the MIDIOX output buffer configuration to the default values of 256/32 instead of the recommended 1024/1024 that I've been using to update other Sequential/OB gear. 

At the 1024/1024 setting, MIDIOX would indicate it's sending the file, but the synth was not counting down.

[Syndromeda]

What worked for me (using USB, Windows 11) was to lower the MIDIOX output buffer configuration to the default values of 256/32 instead of the recommended 1024/1024 that I've been using to update other Sequential/OB gear. 

At the 1024/1024 setting, MIDIOX would indicate it's sending the file, but the synth was not counting down.

Still not working for me, I'm still stuck on OS 1.74.
Any other suggestions? PLEASE!!!

[Mystic38]

What worked for me (using USB, Windows 11) was to lower the MIDIOX output buffer configuration to the default values of 256/32 instead of the recommended 1024/1024 that I've been using to update other Sequential/OB gear. 

At the 1024/1024 setting, MIDIOX would indicate it's sending the file, but the synth was not counting down.

Still not working for me, I'm still stuck on OS 1.74.
Any other suggestions? PLEASE!!!

I have tried a dozen times with midiox, over USB and midi with both the recommended 1024 buffers and those above..

still nothing.. and am stuck on fw 1.2 but may try something in between.. its been over an hour of frustration..

sigh

[Mystic38]

24hrs later..

I was on 1.2, and after issues with updating to 1.8 I found the version of 1.7.4 graciously linked elsewhere in this sub.. followed it to a T, and the OB6 became 1.7.4..on a whim i just sent fw 1.8 and it went through without a hitch..

..and i had made no changes in setup from my first attempts at 1.8.. so perhaps  the OB6 was in a "I don't like Mondays" mood.

it was via midi, but as a I cannot correlate anything any different from my struggles yesterday.. just good luck to all with issues in this area.

..other than try any reinstall then try 1.8

cheers, m38

What worked for me (using USB, Windows 11) was to lower the MIDIOX output buffer configuration to the default values of 256/32 instead of the recommended 1024/1024 that I've been using to update other Sequential/OB gear. 

At the 1024/1024 setting, MIDIOX would indicate it's sending the file, but the synth was not counting down.

Still not working for me, I'm still stuck on OS 1.74.
Any other suggestions? PLEASE!!!

I have tried a dozen times with midiox, over USB and midi with both the recommended 1024 buffers and those above..

still nothing.. and am stuck on fw 1.2 but may try something in between.. its been over an hour of frustration..

sigh

[Syndromeda]

What worked for me (using USB, Windows 11) was to lower the MIDIOX output buffer configuration to the default values of 256/32 instead of the recommended 1024/1024 that I've been using to update other Sequential/OB gear. 

At the 1024/1024 setting, MIDIOX would indicate it's sending the file, but the synth was not counting down.

Same here, but I remember having the same problems updating to 1.7.4. I think I got support from Sequential and had to use a bootloader, that went flawlessly. Maybe we need some help to try that again? I can't even remember how to put the OB-6 in bootmode.

Still not working for me, I'm still stuck on OS 1.74.
Any other suggestions? PLEASE!!!

[BT]

I recommend trying Bome SendSX, instead of MIDI OX.

https://www.bome.com/products/sendsx

[Syndromeda]

I recommend trying Bome SendSX, instead of MIDI OX.

https://www.bome.com/products/sendsx

Tried it too, same problem, impossible to upload the 1.8

[BT]

If you know how to use the OB-6's bootloader, then that will likely solve your issue (and will require use of a MIDI DIN cable). If not, please open a support ticket with support@sequential.com and we'll help you resolve your trouble.

*edited to add: it's worth noting that OS 1.80 adds no new features or bug fixes to the OB-6, and only provides internal support for production.

[Knob twiddler]

*edited to add: it's worth noting that OS 1.80 adds no new features or bug fixes to the OB-6, and only provides internal support for production.

Exactly this, i don't evenwant 1.8 for that reason