SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?

SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?
« on: July 05, 2023, 04:02:22 PM »
Hi -

I bought the P10 module.  I would like to load stacks & splits.

There are no dedicated buttons for this.  I watched the videos, I see that you hold down a button, push another, etc., but it only gives me one second to find and select a file for "A" or "B" .... and that's not nearly enough!

Will the SoundTower editor solve this problem for me?  If not, what will?

I'm just paging through a mish-mosh of sounds, lots of them just effects with no real musical usage whatsoever. I know this thing is capable of music and I don't know anything about synth operation (my first synth), but I'm an experienced musician of 50+ years (sax, piano, guitar).  I would like to make some music with this thing.

Thanks for any assistance!

- Jeff Newton

Re: SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2023, 08:49:30 PM »
Hi -

I bought the P10 module.  I would like to load stacks & splits.

There are no dedicated buttons for this.  I watched the videos, I see that you hold down a button, push another, etc., but it only gives me one second to find and select a file for "A" or "B" .... and that's not nearly enough!

Will the SoundTower editor solve this problem for me?  If not, what will?

UPDATE:  I heard from Mark at Soundtower.  Sadly, it doesn't do stack and split.  They didn't get full MIDI implementation.  Mark said they may be able to in a couple of months.  I can't figure out how to get more than one second to make my "A" and "B" choices.  So, I have no idea what patches I've selected.

I'm just paging through a mish-mosh of sounds, lots of them just effects with no real musical usage whatsoever. I know this thing is capable of music and I don't know anything about synth operation (my first synth), but I'm an experienced musician of 50+ years (sax, piano, guitar).  I would like to make some music with this thing.

Thanks for any assistance!

- Jeff Newton

Re: SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2023, 04:24:51 AM »
Hi -

I bought the P10 module.  I would like to load stacks & splits.

There are no dedicated buttons for this.  I watched the videos, I see that you hold down a button, push another, etc., but it only gives me one second to find and select a file for "A" or "B" .... and that's not nearly enough!

Will the SoundTower editor solve this problem for me?  If not, what will?

I'm just paging through a mish-mosh of sounds, lots of them just effects with no real musical usage whatsoever. I know this thing is capable of music and I don't know anything about synth operation (my first synth), but I'm an experienced musician of 50+ years (sax, piano, guitar).  I would like to make some music with this thing.

Thanks for any assistance!

- Jeff Newton

The layer  A and B indicators time out after releasing the key but the synth is still in that layer until the user changes it. There’s a dot indicator too. So you have all the time in the world to choose.

Layer A is a sort of “master” and B points at another patch. So you need to choose your layer A sound first, then enable stack/split and then choose your layer B. (If you choose a different sound on layer A, then if it isn’t one which has stack/split enabled at the point of save, it will revert to a normal patch. Perhaps this is what you a mistaking for having only a short time to choose the layer A sound.)

I’d suggest reading the manual addendum for the v2.0 firmware as it is explained there.

g3o2

Re: SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2023, 04:54:51 PM »
If you scroll down to the bottom in the following topic you will find a visual overview / cheatsheet of the button combos for the latest firmware: https://forum.sequential.com/index.php/topic,6295.0.html

If you want some split and stack sounds, have a look at the following preset pack: http://www.lukeneptune.com/downloads/luke-neptunes-synthwave-soundset-for-prophet-5-10/

Use the cheatsheet to build your own stack/split sounds. Just one important note: layer B of stack/split A/B preset only contains a reference to layer B’s preset location, nothing more.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2023, 05:26:49 PM by g3o2 »

Re: SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2023, 08:31:27 PM »
Hi -

I bought the P10 module.  I would like to load stacks & splits.

There are no dedicated buttons for this.  I watched the videos, I see that you hold down a button, push another, etc., but it only gives me one second to find and select a file for "A" or "B" .... and that's not nearly enough!

Will the SoundTower editor solve this problem for me?  If not, what will?

I'm just paging through a mish-mosh of sounds, lots of them just effects with no real musical usage whatsoever. I know this thing is capable of music and I don't know anything about synth operation (my first synth), but I'm an experienced musician of 50+ years (sax, piano, guitar).  I would like to make some music with this thing.

Thanks for any assistance!

- Jeff Newton

The layer  A and B indicators time out after releasing the key but the synth is still in that layer until the user changes it. There’s a dot indicator too. So you have all the time in the world to choose.

Layer A is a sort of “master” and B points at another patch. So you need to choose your layer A sound first, then enable stack/split and then choose your layer B. (If you choose a different sound on layer A, then if it isn’t one which has stack/split enabled at the point of save, it will revert to a normal patch. Perhaps this is what you a mistaking for having only a short time to choose the layer A sound.)

I’d suggest reading the manual addendum for the v2.0 firmware as it is explained there.
Thank you very much!  I do think I was dealing with the "point of save" issue.  And I didn't know that a patch didn't "time out" when the indicator timed out."

Support called and pointed me to the manual addendum, which I had not looked for/seen.  Probably best if they updated the manual.....

Thank you again!

- Jeff Newton

Re: SoundTower Editor - Does It Help Loading Stacks & Splits?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2023, 12:14:18 PM »
If you scroll down to the bottom in the following topic you will find a visual overview / cheatsheet of the button combos for the latest firmware: https://forum.sequential.com/index.php/topic,6295.0.html

If you want some split and stack sounds, have a look at the following preset pack: http://www.lukeneptune.com/downloads/luke-neptunes-synthwave-soundset-for-prophet-5-10/

Use the cheatsheet to build your own stack/split sounds. Just one important note: layer B of stack/split A/B preset only contains a reference to layer B’s preset location, nothing more.

Second the Luke Neptune patches! This soundest literally opened the door for me splitting my keyboard all the time!
Prophet 6 #7612; Pro3 #378; Prophet 10 #2878