UDO DMNO

[Quatschmacher]

This is an interesting development and something a bit different from the standard fare:
https://www.udo-audio.com/dmno

[LPF83]

This is an interesting development and something a bit different from the standard fare:
https://www.udo-audio.com/dmno

I'm going to be keeping an eye (and ear) on it, even knowing it's probably not for me.  Looks very cool... I like the screen in particular.

[Quatschmacher]

Their designs and build quality are excellent. 44 keys on a poly is too little though. 61 keys is a must for the way I play. Still, good to be able to rule stuff out otherwise I’d be in an even worse situation regarding space than I already am.

[LPF83]

Their designs and build quality are excellent. 44 keys on a poly is too little though. 61 keys is a must for the way I play. Still, good to be able to rule stuff out otherwise I’d be in an even worse situation regarding space than I already am.

In addition to space, the biggest issue for me would be identifying a specific use case that I need it for.  I am always a little intrigued by every new gear announcement in the sense that yes, I'd like to spend some time exploring it, but for many years now every instrument purchase needs to be justified by me knowing up front the role that instrument would play, or what it brings to the table that my other instruments don't, etc.   For example yes digital oscillators through analog filters can sound great, but the 3rd Wave already covers so much territory with so many voices, and makes it easy to do a binaural patch with 8 voices left / 8 voices right, with a third patch for another 8 voices and an different sound altogether or up the middle etc.   The Bree6 sold me with the combination of tone, tiny size, and easy workflow -- that made it a great candidate for my secondary compact setup.  George indicated in a demo that the Super6/8/Gemini are all sweet spot synths, where as the DMNO let's you go deeper (which sounds to me like it's not intended to be very immediate, and maybe more geared toward more experimental and less musical sounds).  It's like any other instrument, ultimately though, I'll gauge my interest more accurately after hearing lots of demos and learning more about it.

[LoboLives]

You know what, I just think UDO synths are not for me. I just think they are stuck in this desire to make analog synths with their stripped down interfaces but insist on using FPGA oscillators...without utilizing the benefits of FPGA oscillators like the Summit did. I don't think User Waves are supported, even still it's static waveforms, no wavescanning. Then there's this, it's quite a short keybed for 8 voices and multitimbrality (even the Roland System 8 had four octaves) and again it feels like the synth is confused as to what it wants to be.  I just don't understand their design philosophy or logic and I don't find their sound intriguing. I'm glad that they have fans though.

[Quatschmacher]

You know what, I just think UDO synths are not for me. I just think they are stuck in this desire to make analog synths with their stripped down interfaces but insist on using FPGA oscillators...without utilizing the benefits of FPGA oscillators like the Summit did. I don't think User Waves are supported, even still it's static waveforms, no wavescanning. Then there's this, it's quite a short keybed for 8 voices and multitimbrality (even the Roland System 8 had four octaves) and again it feels like the synth is confused as to what it wants to be.  I just don't understand their design philosophy or logic and I don't find their sound intriguing. I'm glad that they have fans though.

User waves are very much supported.

[Soundquest]

Had the Super 6 for 18 months.  Sounded utterly fantastic, which is why I bought it.  The binural sound was still better somehow than what I can get on my 3rd wave for example.  Not knocking the 3rd wave,  as that's great.   Its just that I think binural sound is UDOs sweet spot.  I got rid of the Super 6 only  because I just couldn't get used to the work flow.  Like it was too scattered around, so the buried features and no screen left me confused with where I was at.  Not enough patch memory either.   I'm glad to see that they added on a screen to this new unit.  I'd really need to  try it out in person before committing.  I'm a little gun shy on the layout.

[LPF83]

Had the Super 6 for 18 months.  Sounded utterly fantastic, which is why I bought it.  The binural sound was still better somehow than what I can get on my 3rd wave for example.  Not knocking the 3rd wave,  as that's great.   Its just that I think binural sound is UDOs sweet spot.  I got rid of the Super 6 only  because I just couldn't get used to the work flow.  Like it was too scattered around, so the buried features and no screen left me confused with where I was at.  Not enough patch memory either.   I'm glad to see that they added on a screen to this new unit.  I'd really need to  try it out in person before committing.  I'm a little gun shy on the layout.

It could be because the Super 6/8/Gemini are optimized for binaural sounds out of the box maybe?   Whereas with the 3rd Wave, you have everything you need to do binaural sounds but if all you do is pan the exact same sound left and right, it may amaze as much as if you same some other actions, like maybe phase shift the left and right side with different timings, etc. to tickle the brain a bit. 

I honestly have never heard a Super 6 in person and have always wanted one, but the lack of screen was a concern and I did also wonder about the workflow.  More than anything, I just felt the price point was high for what they were, and with the DMNO coming in at $3,500 USD, I'm still of that mind.

[Shaw]

I’m pretty excited about this synth.  Looks like the modern re-invention of the Oberheim 4-voice.  Yeah, I know it is both more and less than that, but still.  Can’t wait to see and hear more about this synth.

[LoboLives]

You know what, I just think UDO synths are not for me. I just think they are stuck in this desire to make analog synths with their stripped down interfaces but insist on using FPGA oscillators...without utilizing the benefits of FPGA oscillators like the Summit did. I don't think User Waves are supported, even still it's static waveforms, no wavescanning. Then there's this, it's quite a short keybed for 8 voices and multitimbrality (even the Roland System 8 had four octaves) and again it feels like the synth is confused as to what it wants to be.  I just don't understand their design philosophy or logic and I don't find their sound intriguing. I'm glad that they have fans though.

User waves are very much supported.

Well that's good to hear, still static from what I gather compared to the Summit. Unless you can now scan the wavetables?

[LPF83]

You know what, I just think UDO synths are not for me. I just think they are stuck in this desire to make analog synths with their stripped down interfaces but insist on using FPGA oscillators...without utilizing the benefits of FPGA oscillators like the Summit did. I don't think User Waves are supported, even still it's static waveforms, no wavescanning. Then there's this, it's quite a short keybed for 8 voices and multitimbrality (even the Roland System 8 had four octaves) and again it feels like the synth is confused as to what it wants to be.  I just don't understand their design philosophy or logic and I don't find their sound intriguing. I'm glad that they have fans though.

User waves are very much supported.

Well that's good to hear, still static from what I gather compared to the Summit. Unless you can now scan the wavetables?

If wavetable scanning, limitless modulation, and user content is your thing, a 3rd Wave 8m combined with a Korg Keystage 49 that can take advantage of the polyphonic aftertouch would probably take you a lot further than the DMNO would, for a lot less money $2,600 vs $3,500.  I can confirm the Poly AT feature of the 3rd Wave really shines with this controller.

UDO has this way of making the devices that really appeal to my eyes though... the DMNO even more so than the Super6.