Export an edited program to SysEx Librarian or Sequencer - issue

[nunucello]

Issue:
I thought that whatever is on the current Prophet panel, it can be transferred to Sys-Ex Librarian.
So if you make changes to a program, you can dump the state of the knobs and buttons to a sys-ex librarian or sequencer.

Here's what I done, both with midi and usb, but no difference.

- Using my new Prophet 10. 
- Pull up a program patch, like 413 and edit it.
- I like the edits I made, but don't want to overwrite the original
- Edits include activating aftertouch button and rev switch

I thinking - let's dump the current setting of the knobs and pots to the computer....

- Globals are set up correct
- MIDI port set to midi
- Program Selector set to Program (Pr0)
- Press Record
- Program is exported - but not with the changes I made - just the original saved version.

My guess is that you have to save the program to the user bank first ?

Thank you in advance for your help,
nunucello

[Analog Prophet]

My guess is that you have to save the program to the user bank first ?

That’s how I understand it - save first. But you have double of every patch, User 413 is the same as Factory 413 and therefore you can overwrite it and still have access to it with Factory 413.


How to Load a SysEx Patch to Any Program Slot on Prophet 5/10

When you send a SysEx file to the Prophet-10, the patch usually loads into the slot it was saved in (e.g., Bank 1, Program 3 ). But there are simple ways to place it wherever you want.

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Option 1: Manual Save on Prophet-10
   1.   Send the SysEx file using a tool like SysEx Librarian (Mac) or MIDI-OX (Windows).
   2.   The patch loads temporarily into the synth.
   3.   Press “Write” on the Prophet-10.
   4.   Choose the bank and program number where you want to save it.
   5.   Press “Write” again to confirm.

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Option 2: Use a Patch Manager or Editor

Use software like:
   •   SoundTower Editor
   •   KnobKraft-orm


With these, you can drag and drop patches into any slot and send them to your synth easily.

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Option 3: Edit the SysEx File (Advanced)

If you’re comfortable with SysEx data:
   •   Open the file in a SysEx or Hex editor.
   •   Change the bytes that define the bank and program number.
   •   Then send the file to Prophet-10.

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Tips
   •   Prophet-10 uses MIDI SysEx ID 01 01 0C
   •   Always back up your patches before overwriting
   •   Use User Banks for more flexibility

[Monzelio]

Using Soundtower you can store an edited program in a Phantom Group without saving it on your Prophet Banks...

[Quatschmacher]

There is a specific command for requesting a dump of the edit buffer but it may be SysEx only if I recall correctly.

[Starkstrom]

How to Load a SysEx Patch to Any Program Slot on Prophet 5/10

When you send a SysEx file to the Prophet-10, the patch usually loads into the slot it was saved in (e.g., Bank 1, Program 3 ). But there are simple ways to place it wherever you want.

⸻

Option 1: Manual Save on Prophet-10
   1.   Send the SysEx file using a tool like SysEx Librarian (Mac) or MIDI-OX (Windows).
   2.   The patch loads temporarily into the synth.
   3.   Press “Write” on the Prophet-10.
   4.   Choose the bank and program number where you want to save it.
   5.   Press “Write” again to confirm.

Step#2 and following implicates that the patch is send to the Prophet’s edit buffer. I need to double check but that’s not how I remember it when using the SYSEX app. If I’m not mistaken it actually overwrites the program slot it was originally saved in. I maybe wrong though.

[nunucello]

Thank You Analog Prophet, Monzelio, Quatschmacher and Starkstrom for your responses.

Much Appreciated,
Nunucello