Trying to recreate a patch from NI Pro-53

Trying to recreate a patch from NI Pro-53
« on: January 15, 2025, 03:29:15 AM »
Hello everyone,
I need your help to recreate a patch on Prophet 5.
I'm not an expert in sound design. A long time ago I loved one patch I had been using with my VST Pro-53 from Native Instruments, which is based on Prophet 5.
NI Pro-53 is no longer compatible with my macbook setup. I've found another fork from NI Pro-53 source code which is called Pro-54 from CMajor. The sound sounds exactly the same to me.
As the user interface is quite the same as the Prophet 5, I tried to recreate this patch on my Arturia Prophet 5 VST which is quite close to the original hardware sound from what I've read.
But the patch sounds completely different. The LFO seems to be the problem but I'm not sure at all.
Here is the Pro-54 (web browser designed emulation of Prophet 5) :
https://cmajor.dev/assets/example_patches/Pro54/index.html
The patch I'd like to recreate is #148 Pad Oblique

Do you achieve to be close to this sound by recreating this patch on your own Prophet 5 ?
Do I miss something ?
Any help would be very appreciated.
Thanks a lot !

Mathieu

Re: Trying to recreate a patch from NI Pro-53
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2025, 03:49:34 AM »
It looks like minimum LO FREQ speed of VCO2 (by turning VCO2's FREQ all the way left) is much higher on Prophet 5 than on Pro-54 emulation. No ?

Edit : Sorry, I've just found that I get a very LO FREQ by turning off KBD switch from VCO2. But KBD switch seems to be the keyboard Tracking functionality. So deactivating it changes the patch a lot :(
« Last Edit: January 15, 2025, 04:03:56 AM by mdnkndt »

Re: Trying to recreate a patch from NI Pro-53
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2025, 09:17:23 PM »
It looks like minimum LO FREQ speed of VCO2 (by turning VCO2's FREQ all the way left) is much higher on Prophet 5 than on Pro-54 emulation. No ?

Edit : Sorry, I've just found that I get a very LO FREQ by turning off KBD switch from VCO2. But KBD switch seems to be the keyboard Tracking functionality. So deactivating it changes the patch a lot :(
Recreating a specific patch from the NI Pro-53 on the Prophet 5 synth was incredibly simple with just a few workarounds to address the differences in sound, particularly regarding LFO settings and keyboard tracking, as they explored different emulations and VSTs.

Re: Trying to recreate a patch from NI Pro-53
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2025, 02:59:03 AM »
It looks like minimum LO FREQ speed of VCO2 (by turning VCO2's FREQ all the way left) is much higher on Prophet 5 than on Pro-54 emulation. No ?
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Edit : Sorry, I've just found that I get a very LO FREQ by turning off KBD switch from VCO2. But KBD switch seems to be the keyboard Tracking functionality. So deactivating it changes the patch a lot :(
Recreating a specific patch from the NI Pro-53 on the Prophet 5 synth was incredibly simple with just a few workarounds to address the differences in sound, particularly regarding LFO settings and keyboard tracking, as they explored different emulations and VSTs.
I completely agree with the above comments on the Prophet 5 synthesizer issues and the prompt and timely solutions.