No response to ADSR CCs in NRPN mode

pti

No response to ADSR CCs in NRPN mode
« on: January 12, 2025, 12:09:26 PM »
I just bought an NI S88 Mk3 and I am setting up MIDI templates for each of my hardware synths, hoping to control key parameters from the S88 knobs when I am at my mix desk.

The S88 sends CC from the knobs. My Soundtower editors require MIDI Param Send / Receive to be set to NRPN.

On my Trigon and Rev2, both also set to Send/Receive NRPN, the editors work with NRPN and the NI controler's CCs still can control VCA and Filter ADSR, for instance.

On the OB-X8, however, there seems to be no response to ADSR CCs (39-42, 45-48) if the OB-X8 is set to MIDI Param Send/Receive NRPN. If I switch the OB-X8 to MIDI Param Send / Receive CC, the CCs from the S88 do work. Having the OB-X8 in CC mode, however, disables the Soundtower editor.

Oddly, even in NRPN mode, the OB-X8 -does- respond to CC 74 - BRIGHTNESS, which I have assigned to the S88 touch strip.

I expected the OB-X8 to behave like the Trigon, where CCs would still work even in NRPN mode. Is there any way to achieve that behavior? Am I missing some other relevant setting?

The best solution would be for the NI Control S mk3 controller series to just support NRPN from the control knobs, but over a year after launch, this controller series is still a bit half-baked. You can't use 5-pin and USB MIDI at the same time (without an on-Mac routing hack). You can't do layers / overlapping Zones in MIDI templates for external synths. You can't send NRPN. However, it's 88 keys with poly-AT and the really nice NKS support for soft synths, so there aren't a lot of other choices.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2025, 12:29:44 PM by pti »