GS Music Bree6

Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2025, 12:10:43 AM »
Sometimes when I get a synth and put it through it's motions, in my own flawed mind I tend to categorize it...

..like what does the tone of this synth remind me of?  When will I reach for it instead of another synth?

And I think I arrived that the Bree6 stirs my adoration of early Roxy Music tracks (which oddly, and to my understanding used a lot of Jupiter 8, which is neither a single osc synth nor a ladder filter.... but somehow the combination of circuitry here reminds me of that).  I find a sweet melancholy smoothness in the tone that's easy to fiddle with and add some character to on the fly. 

It can do a lot more than sound smooth, it's just how well it does smooth that catches me.  It can do "punch" when asked to do so as well.
Any chance you could post some clips?

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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2025, 04:02:25 AM »
You're still selling me on a synth I don't need and can't afford, but I'd suggest "early" Roxy is Eno on EMS!

You're absolutely right!  I should have said "early 80's Roxy", or "early Bryan Ferry", or even "late Roxy".  As I find myself doing more often these days, I typed that and posted without really proof-reading it and thinking a little deeper about what I was posting.

My sense of time, as it relates to Roxy Music, is also a little warped because in my music collection folders, all of my Roxy stuff is mixed in with Bryan Ferry's solo stuff, so the timeline gets a bit blurred.  I think part of that blur happens because much of the time I'm listening, its from the hard drive in my car, where the files are not organized or played chronologically with their release dates.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2025, 04:09:10 AM »
Sometimes when I get a synth and put it through it's motions, in my own flawed mind I tend to categorize it...

..like what does the tone of this synth remind me of?  When will I reach for it instead of another synth?

And I think I arrived that the Bree6 stirs my adoration of early Roxy Music tracks (which oddly, and to my understanding used a lot of Jupiter 8, which is neither a single osc synth nor a ladder filter.... but somehow the combination of circuitry here reminds me of that).  I find a sweet melancholy smoothness in the tone that's easy to fiddle with and add some character to on the fly. 

It can do a lot more than sound smooth, it's just how well it does smooth that catches me.  It can do "punch" when asked to do so as well.
Any chance you could post some clips?

I can certainly put that on my todo list, but can't promise it will happen.  There is so much I want to do in a given time frame when I go into the studio, turn on all the gear to warm up, then sit down to create some music, and yet so little time to do it all.  In the past few months I've also taken up learning guitar, which is a serious time sink in itself, and it's really brought to light the reality that (a) I'm probably not going to be able to retire as soon as I'd like to and (b) I have a dearth of "me" time in my life and (c) I owe it to myself to start being more selfish with regard to (b) or I'm going to find myself at the end of the road with a list of regrets that I never got around to.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2025, 04:56:14 PM »
I just sold a piece of gear I wasn’t using today (Yorick LFE); once the funds clear, I’m pretty tempted to check the Bree6 out as it’s around the same as what I sold the LFE for.

I don't think you'll be disappointed if you get a Bree6.  If you need a sequencer or arp onboard, you'd want to pay a little more for the keyboard version, but I'm fine getting those features another way and prefer the small size and using a separate MPE keyboard with it anyway.

I don’t use sequencers or arpeggiators so it’s fine for me. Of the polys I have, I’ve probably written the most actual music on my Juno 106, in part due to its simplicity/lack of distractions. I’m definitely appreciating the simpler stuff, hence selling the LFE; I got that to go with my Prophet 10 but am finding I’m fine just using its own limited feature set. I can see me really enjoying the Bree6. I liked the sound of the E7 but found the chorus not so great, so I’m glad to hear the Bree6 version is much improved; I wonder if Guido might be able to replace the E7’s algorithm with this new one.

I'm not sure because I saw a conversation somewhere (GS or YT) saying his synths aren't firmware updatable -- but honestly if he produced a simple, one-knob stereo chorus pedal that sounded like the chorus on the Bree6, I'd probably buy more than one.  I think part of the magic may be that by reducing it to a single knob, he's optimized the curve of the underlying rate and depth settings so that the entire knob range is one big sweet spot.  That's probably one reason the Juno chorus always sounded so good -- there wasn't a lot of opportunity to go into bad sounding settings because of the limited buttons, they were really like specific chorus settings designed to sound good on just about everything.

The simplicity of the Bree6 is another reason it's so attractive. Not to mention the sound, it has a modern sound.  Wondering how it sounds compared to a more organic synth like the Polysix? 

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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2025, 03:50:16 AM »
I just sold a piece of gear I wasn’t using today (Yorick LFE); once the funds clear, I’m pretty tempted to check the Bree6 out as it’s around the same as what I sold the LFE for.

I don't think you'll be disappointed if you get a Bree6.  If you need a sequencer or arp onboard, you'd want to pay a little more for the keyboard version, but I'm fine getting those features another way and prefer the small size and using a separate MPE keyboard with it anyway.

I don’t use sequencers or arpeggiators so it’s fine for me. Of the polys I have, I’ve probably written the most actual music on my Juno 106, in part due to its simplicity/lack of distractions. I’m definitely appreciating the simpler stuff, hence selling the LFE; I got that to go with my Prophet 10 but am finding I’m fine just using its own limited feature set. I can see me really enjoying the Bree6. I liked the sound of the E7 but found the chorus not so great, so I’m glad to hear the Bree6 version is much improved; I wonder if Guido might be able to replace the E7’s algorithm with this new one.

I'm not sure because I saw a conversation somewhere (GS or YT) saying his synths aren't firmware updatable -- but honestly if he produced a simple, one-knob stereo chorus pedal that sounded like the chorus on the Bree6, I'd probably buy more than one.  I think part of the magic may be that by reducing it to a single knob, he's optimized the curve of the underlying rate and depth settings so that the entire knob range is one big sweet spot.  That's probably one reason the Juno chorus always sounded so good -- there wasn't a lot of opportunity to go into bad sounding settings because of the limited buttons, they were really like specific chorus settings designed to sound good on just about everything.

The simplicity of the Bree6 is another reason it's so attractive. Not to mention the sound, it has a modern sound.  Wondering how it sounds compared to a more organic synth like the Polysix?

Sound is a very subjective thing.  If I've learned one thing over the years of working with synths, it's that how sound is perceived can vary among individuals.  What sounds good versus bad, or what reminds one of modern versus vintage, etc. is not consistent from one person to the next.  For example I think you're the first person I've heard describe the GS Music sound as modern -- to my ears it is one of the more vintage sounding synths I own.  And then, once we introduce even more vague terms like "organic"  (see this link for more on that) it becomes even more challenging to convey sound comparison results. 

I think the best advice I have for figuring out how a synth sounds these days is to listen to lots of YT demos.  Back in the day, my advice might have been to take your own headphones to a music store to plug-in and try a keyboard out, but these days there are probably only a handful of stores in the US that would have the synths I'd want to try out on display. 

Most of the synths I own now were bought solely based on watching YT, and while it sometimes takes time and patience to find a video that finally sells me on a synth, the method overall has never let me down and I'd say in terms of long term satisfaction has worked out better for me than the older method of trying the synth out in the store.

As far as just a general subjective statement about comparing the Bree6 and Polysix, I'd say that they are very similar in workflow, simplicity, abundant sweet spots, and "that sound" you want from a VCO based poly, and I'd say they both excel at the same use cases and music genres.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2025, 09:18:15 AM »
Threads like this are maddening for me. Besides wanting the Bree6, I’m now wishing I’d not sold my PolySix! Or my Juno 6!

There is something very appealing to me about “simple” synths that simply sound good. (I say that and now also regret letting go of my System 8!)

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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2025, 03:14:15 PM »
Threads like this are maddening for me. Besides wanting the Bree6, I’m now wishing I’d not sold my PolySix! Or my Juno 6!

There is something very appealing to me about “simple” synths that simply sound good. (I say that and now also regret letting go of my System 8!)

One of these days I need to get MIDI installed in my Polysix, it will get more use once it has it.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2025, 05:25:06 PM »
Threads like this are maddening for me. Besides wanting the Bree6, I’m now wishing I’d not sold my PolySix! Or my Juno 6!

There is something very appealing to me about “simple” synths that simply sound good. (I say that and now also regret letting go of my System 8!)

One of these days I need to get MIDI installed in my Polysix, it will get more use once it has it.

I’ve been eyeballing a Polysix for quite some time. Kiwisix seems like a good midi mod plus it deals with the battery problem. You can splurge for a little more and get the upgraded power Kiwisix. There is also a mod that adds panoramic stereo to the Polysix. From the videos it sounds excellent.

Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2025, 06:21:41 PM »
Threads like this are maddening for me. Besides wanting the Bree6, I’m now wishing I’d not sold my PolySix! Or my Juno 6!

There is something very appealing to me about “simple” synths that simply sound good. (I say that and now also regret letting go of my System 8!)

One of these days I need to get MIDI installed in my Polysix, it will get more use once it has it.

I had a basic MIDI kit installed in mine not long before I sold it. It was certainly cool to be able to run MIDI sequences from Logic into the PolySix, but I'm finding myself more and more going MIDI-free with a lot of my synth tracks these days. Probably the most fun for me was MIDI'ing the Korg to my Juno 6. Can't beat 'em, join 'em!

I do miss the PolySix, but the Prologue helped justify letting the former go. The Prologue can do strings that feel like those of the PolySix, those strings being my main reason for keeping the P6.

Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2025, 02:52:24 PM »
I don't mean to co-opt the Bree6 thread, but since we're talking PolySix, here's something that, apart from the Digitakt drums and samples, is indeed all Korg P6. Now I miss the synth even more!

https://antonbarbeau.bandcamp.com/track/polysix-sings

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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2025, 03:27:09 PM »
I don't mean to co-opt the Bree6 thread, but since we're talking PolySix, here's something that, apart from the Digitakt drums and samples, is indeed all Korg P6. Now I miss the synth even more!

https://antonbarbeau.bandcamp.com/track/polysix-sings

Cool track!  But yeah it does seem that the thread kind of hybridized into a BrolySix thread :)
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2025, 04:33:56 PM »
I don't mean to co-opt the Bree6 thread, but since we're talking PolySix, here's something that, apart from the Digitakt drums and samples, is indeed all Korg P6. Now I miss the synth even more!

https://antonbarbeau.bandcamp.com/track/polysix-sings

Cool track!  But yeah it does seem that the thread kind of hybridized into a BrolySix thread :)


Ha! Great synth concept.

Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2025, 10:02:54 AM »
I don't mean to co-opt the Bree6 thread, but since we're talking PolySix, here's something that, apart from the Digitakt drums and samples, is indeed all Korg P6. Now I miss the synth even more!

https://antonbarbeau.bandcamp.com/track/polysix-sings

Cool track!  But yeah it does seem that the thread kind of hybridized into a BrolySix thread :)

All this talk about the Polysix and Bree6 made my curiosity get the best of me. I ended up snagging a Polysix and getting a Bree6 next week!

Edit: going for the Tubbutec midi mod as it adds quite a bit of function to the P6. Excited to play both the Bree6 and Poly in conjunction with each other.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2025, 10:55:09 AM »
I don't mean to co-opt the Bree6 thread, but since we're talking PolySix, here's something that, apart from the Digitakt drums and samples, is indeed all Korg P6. Now I miss the synth even more!

https://antonbarbeau.bandcamp.com/track/polysix-sings

Cool track!  But yeah it does seem that the thread kind of hybridized into a BrolySix thread :)

All this talk about the Polysix and Bree6 made my curiosity get the best of me. I ended up snagging a Polysix and getting a Bree6 next week!

Edit: going for the Tubbutec midi mod as it adds quite a bit of function to the P6. Excited to play both the Bree6 and Poly in conjunction with each other.

Nice! Hope you'll post some music with the two synths playing nice together!

Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2025, 11:49:54 AM »
Was hoping to try a Bree6 this weekend but the store that sticks them doesn’t have any out in display.

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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2025, 02:24:17 PM »
Was hoping to try a Bree6 this weekend but the store that sticks them doesn’t have any out in display.

It's not a replacement for hearing one in person, but in case you haven't seen this yet, here's a scroll through of some of the first few presets.

Like most synths though, the presets aren't really its strong point and while there are hundreds of sounds on it, many of them aren't as good as you can dial in with some very simple exploration.  I usually prefer to start from init patch and go from there on synths like this where the workflow is really fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar3FYDLX4Gs
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2025, 04:06:42 PM »
Was hoping to try a Bree6 this weekend but the store that sticks them doesn’t have any out in display.

It's not a replacement for hearing one in person, but in case you haven't seen this yet, here's a scroll through of some of the first few presets.

Like most synths though, the presets aren't really its strong point and while there are hundreds of sounds on it, many of them aren't as good as you can dial in with some very simple exploration.  I usually prefer to start from init patch and go from there on synths like this where the workflow is really fast.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar3FYDLX4Gs
Thanks. Yes, I’ve listened to that a couple of times. I think I’ve exhausted all the videos. There’s some lovely sounds in there. The sound at 7.55 in this video caught my ear:
https://youtu.be/8V-nVc8rF7k?si=p12IboJNbyZgFKHx

Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2025, 03:26:23 AM »
Are the velocity, aftertouch and mod wheel depth settings global or per-preset? Would have been nice if there’d been a panel button or knob for these settings as these are things I’d use regularly and likely want to be different in each patch.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2025, 01:37:01 PM »
Are the velocity, aftertouch and mod wheel depth settings global or per-preset? Would have been nice if there’d been a panel button or knob for these settings as these are things I’d use regularly and likely want to be different in each patch.

Those are global.  The only per-preset settings are: Transpose, Pitch Bend Range, Level, Unison Interval

It's a really simple synth... which is a strength, but at the same time you give some things up with simplicity.

Unison interval is a cool and kind of unusual feature though.
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Re: GS Music Bree6
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2025, 05:05:17 PM »
Are the velocity, aftertouch and mod wheel depth settings global or per-preset? Would have been nice if there’d been a panel button or knob for these settings as these are things I’d use regularly and likely want to be different in each patch.

Those are global.  The only per-preset settings are: Transpose, Pitch Bend Range, Level, Unison Interval
It's a really simple synth... which is a strength, but at the same time you give some things up with simplicity.
Unison interval is a cool and kind of unusual feature though.

I should probably add something to that last post...  pretty much all of the parameters that you would want to modify per patch can be adjusted for each sound already through other things things like EG1, EG2 and LFO mod amount so that the relative effect from velocity or aftertouch should be mostly achievable and able to be saved per sound.  Some might look at the size of the unit and be put off by the idea of adjusting slightly on the fly as they play or whatever, but I think that's worth mentioning one of the strong points of the Bree6:  most synths I've seen in this small of a form factor are difficult to tweak for live play or on the fly sound design.  There have been some good sounding small synths but they either don't have enough knobs or the knobs feel too small and fiddly to have that same level of playability.  I think that might be where the genius of the Bree6 comes in... the thing is tiny, yet the build quality, the knobs and the fact they don't feel cramped make you forget the things it can't do, its gets you to great sounding tones fast.

Some of the other small desktop synths that have come out recently -- maybe they're right for some but for example the Dreadbox synths.. they sound distorted and colored at the source to me.  The Bree6 has this clean/pure analog tone to it... I can always find ways to mangle, distort or drive a signal later if I want to.  Some tonal characteristics are rare, and I think that's where it shines.  That could vary greatly by individual and what each of our ears hear and interpret, I dunno.



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