Just spent two days with the toraiz SP-16 and the tempest if you want to get away frome the computer this is the way to go
Mpc touch I have and toraiz Sp-16
Is way better I'm having so much fun with the toraiz SP-16 the best feature
In the toraiz is DSI filters dope
And the sync is amazing you just drop
A sample or loop into toraiz and it is synced fun fun fun sorry native instruments and Akai if you want to
Keep up you Hafth to build a stand alone no computer hardware maschine pioneer just kicked you guys in the nuts
Could not keep it to my self