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Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?

Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« on: September 07, 2016, 04:03:18 PM »
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/patch-morpher/id718129807?mt=8

I'm looking seriously at the Prophet 12 but would prefer the cost/portability of the module, *if* it's not too difficult to program from the simplified UI.

I've used Patch Morpher before on a different synth and it was actually pretty nice.  No real knobs obviously (just the iPad) but it didn't bother me too much; all the functionality was there. 

Just curious if anyone else has tried this in combination with the P12 module, and if so whether the app was 'good enough' to make you not regret passing on the full keys version.


Shaw

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Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2016, 06:45:43 PM »
I have a P12 (keyboard version) and Patch Morpher.  I'd say it works quite well. I've never tried Patch Morpher with another synth, so I have nothing to compare it to, but it does what I expected it to do and was easy to set up and use.


Hope that helps.
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Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2016, 11:16:15 PM »
Also the interface on the P12 module is very good, programming it is not a hassle.

I have the P2 as well and tend to program that the same way I do the P12, ignoring most of the other knobs!

Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2016, 10:40:58 AM »
I have a P12 (keyboard version) and Patch Morpher.  I'd say it works quite well. I've never tried Patch Morpher with another synth, so I have nothing to compare it to, but it does what I expected it to do and was easy to set up and use.


Hope that helps.

Beyond the 'morphing' aspect of the app, do you think that the app is workable for using it as an actual substitute for knob-turning?  (I assume you just use the knobs on the keyboard most of the time)

Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2016, 10:44:57 AM »
Also the interface on the P12 module is very good, programming it is not a hassle.

I have the P2 as well and tend to program that the same way I do the P12, ignoring most of the other knobs!

Interesting...  I consider myself more of an intermediate programmer and the P12 would definitely be a step up in terms of complexity of the synth engines I'm used to.  For that reason, I figured I'd benefit from the visual/hands-on aspect of a knob-per-function (or in the case of Patch Morpher, an 'icon'-per-function interface), while I wrapped my brain around all the additional possibilities. 

But maybe I'm overthinking it?  You're not the first person I've seen say that they found the physical UI of the P12 module to be sufficient...   

Shaw

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Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2016, 10:49:56 AM »
Beyond the 'morphing' aspect of the app, do you think that the app is workable for using it as an actual substitute for knob-turning?  (I assume you just use the knobs on the keyboard most of the time)
No, I just use it to get ideas for interesting patches.... For me at least, it would not be a good substitute for the knobs.  But if you didn't have them, I suppose you could get by...
"Classical musicians go to the conservatories, rock´n roll musicians go to the garages." --- Frank Zappa

Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2016, 12:56:39 PM »
Also the interface on the P12 module is very good, programming it is not a hassle.

I have the P2 as well and tend to program that the same way I do the P12, ignoring most of the other knobs!

Interesting...  I consider myself more of an intermediate programmer and the P12 would definitely be a step up in terms of complexity of the synth engines I'm used to.  For that reason, I figured I'd benefit from the visual/hands-on aspect of a knob-per-function (or in the case of Patch Morpher, an 'icon'-per-function interface), while I wrapped my brain around all the additional possibilities. 

But maybe I'm overthinking it?  You're not the first person I've seen say that they found the physical UI of the P12 module to be sufficient...

It is very well designed, you only ever need a maximum of two button presses to get to the control you are after.

So to get to say the oscillator shape you just press the button next to the oscillator you want to edit and the soft knob 1 is now the osc shape.

Or to get to the amp envelope press the amp button and then the second soft button, now the 4 knobs are the A/D/S/R.

After a while you get used to the button combinations and it is automatic without even looking at the screen.

Setting up modulations is easy as well, to assign LFO 1 to say oscillator 1:  hold the assign mod source and tap the LFO 1 button, now hold the assign mod destination button and press the osc 1 button to step through the destination sources on osc1, set depth with soft knob 4.

It really is a masterpiece of design.

Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2016, 08:37:23 PM »
I have patch Morpher and very rarely use it. It's nice and works great but the module on its own is fine.... I wish it had dedicated Adsr knobs but other than that it's pretty fast and immediate

Re: Anyone try the Patch Morpher app with their P12 module?
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2016, 06:53:11 AM »
I've got Patch Morpher as well, and even as a sound designer it has provided me with some stunning starting points for new patches that I never would have been able to program in from scratch.

Beautifully written in my opinion, although like others here I do most of my P12 programming from the P12 itself.


Martin