Trigon Pros & Cons

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2023, 11:04:29 PM »
The Trigon 6 sounds great. It  does offer different features. I think I would still choose the prophet 5 rev4 though. Maybe Iím nostalgic and lean towards classic reissues with modern upgrades.  I like that it has 61 keys . I also like the size of the knobs and the overall look of the prophet 5 rev 4 . Itís a classic

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2023, 01:37:24 PM »
Ok - so today we have th4e Trigon 6 Desktop announcement.   Im now really confused lol.

I have space for 2 desktop units - and 2 full keyboards.  My 2 boards are an Iridium keyboard and a 3rd wave.  My 2 Desktops are a P6 and an OB6.

So - as I can only have TWO desktops (space issue).,.....  Are those 2 OB6/P6,  OB6,T6   or P6/T6.......bearing in mind the 3rd waves capabilities.

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2023, 01:40:55 PM »
Ok - so today we have th4e Trigon 6 Desktop announcement.   Im now really confused lol.

I have space for 2 desktop units - and 2 full keyboards.  My 2 boards are an Iridium keyboard and a 3rd wave.  My 2 Desktops are a P6 and an OB6.

So - as I can only have TWO desktops (space issue).,.....  Are those 2 OB6/P6,  OB6,T6   or P6/T6.......bearing in mind the 3rd waves capabilities.

Do you really need another poly synth? How are you doing with the P6 / OB6? Is there one of them (or both) you are hardly using?

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2023, 02:10:13 PM »
Ok - so today we have th4e Trigon 6 Desktop announcement.   Im now really confused lol.

I have space for 2 desktop units - and 2 full keyboards.  My 2 boards are an Iridium keyboard and a 3rd wave.  My 2 Desktops are a P6 and an OB6.

So - as I can only have TWO desktops (space issue).,.....  Are those 2 OB6/P6,  OB6,T6   or P6/T6.......bearing in mind the 3rd waves capabilities.

Do you really need another poly synth? How are you doing with the P6 / OB6? Is there one of them (or both) you are hardly using?

I use them both.   Just when I think I prefer one over the other - I play the other more and it flips lol.

I KIND of like the idea of 1 x SEM, 1 x OTA and 1 x Ladder filter synth (rather than multiples in one synth).

On the Trigon I do like the idea of dedicated waveform buttons rather than the sweeping (for a change) and of course OB6 only has triangle on one Osc.  I like having 12 and 24 bd filter options.  I like having the 3 full Oscillators..... but Im not sure I can give up the Prophet and Oberheim flavours.

Im so torn......

I should maybe not splash on the OBx8.... its nicer sounding than the OB6 but not by much, and I should really sort out the mundane stuff (Ive kind of outgrown what I had and need more dedicated lines in rather than sub-mixing) too.....  That would mean sticking with 2 of the T6/P6/OB6 desktops.  Picking which 2 isnt easy..
 

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Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2023, 03:39:59 PM »
I should maybe not splash on the OBx8.... its nicer sounding than the OB6 but not by much

Nicer sounding is really subjective, but for those seeking the sound of vintage Oberheims, I have to say as someone that owns both the difference is substantial, and WAY more than what I thought it would be based on YT videos.  The issue is that the videos that are out there are specifically designed to create sounds that are similar.  There is not much out there showing the vast range of differences.  Anyway back to the Trigon desktop...  ladder synths aren't my personal fave, but I wouldn't rule out ever owning one of these in desktop format.  They do sound great, and for those looking for these specific features maybe even a must buy.
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Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2023, 02:39:45 AM »
I finally made the jump. So after a few weeks with my Trigon and in light of the Desktop announcement I thought Iíd actually give it a proper verdict instead of my previous I-spent-10mins-with-one opinion.

Pros:
-I love this format (so Iíd probably love the P6 and OB6 too). The programs are coming thick and quick, helped by the preset mode that, once disabled, turns the synth into a WYSIWYG programless keyboard (and presets can still be saved!). And the simplicity of the modulations sources (also in cons) really helps it make it feel not too overwhelming and not menu divy.
-It sounds lovely, tons of sweet spots, and I feel like I can hit all the sounds I personally like. Definitely more like a 70s type of sound than 80s, although I still got some lovely sync/resonant leads that felt more 80s/90s.
-I simply love the colour of that distortion. It just doesnít never seem to sound quite as good on my Pro3.
-The Vintage knob just works. I was sceptical about it at first, but it just does a lot of modulation on its own. It makes every patch more interesting.
-The envelopes seems somehow snappier and cleaner on short attack time than on my other Sequentials, opening the ground for some really nice plucky/percky sounds.
-The FXs also seem to sound better and be more usable.

Cons:
-Aftertouch still feels a bit rubbish, like a glorified on/off switch. I should have gotten the Osmose first. :)
-Could do with more modulation sources and destinations. I wish I could modulate the distortion with the synced LFO for example.
-I still think it sounds good raw, the oscillators sound better than my Pro3ís, but not OBx8 good.
-I keep wishing that osc2 was like osc3, and that sync3 was also possible.
-The ladder filter doesnít seem to sound quite as good as my Subharmoniconís. It also takes a little while to get used to it, and getting a feel for the correct amount of key tracking can feel often tricky with the lack of a dedicated knob and the varying amount of resonance.
-I wish it had aluminium knobs instead of these hard plastic ones, but thatís not too bad. The consistent damping/resistance feel across all pots is pretty good too.
-Itís too tall to fit on my desk keyboard drawer. So I canít switch it positions with my Rev2.
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Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2024, 06:45:27 PM »
Does the Trigon have panel-mounted pots? (unlike the OB6 or P6)
I've seen people say the knobs are stiff to turn, so that makes me think yes?

Also, I think the last OS update addressed the aftertouch sensitivity, so is it better now?

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2024, 07:19:44 PM »
Does the Trigon have panel-mounted pots? (unlike the OB6 or P6)

They are not panel mounted.

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I've seen people say the knobs are stiff to turn, so that makes me think yes?

Technically they are "damped" pots, which uses a gel that makes them a little stiff but not hard to rotate.

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Also, I think the last OS update addressed the aftertouch sensitivity, so is it better now?

I have the module and have not yet updated the last OS, but aftertouch works fine from my MIDI controller.

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2024, 07:34:10 AM »
I SOLD my Prophet 10 rev 4. I prefer the sound, features and fun of the Trigon 6 BY FAR. And prophet 10 sounds great.. so it's not a bad thing about that. T6 just sounds nicer to me, more powerful, less 'oldie worlde' for the sake of it. It's my favourite of the 6 series and my favourite sequential, i've had them all.

And yes there IS a big difference in tone between the 3 6's. The P6 is very very generic and flat and almost un-analog. OB-6 is the obie sound, p6 can't touch it, T6 can do prophety stuff in 4 pole but with more character and weight, and a touch of OBI stuff in 2 pole mode... AND it has 3 oscs. The feedback feature puts it way above the other two in terms of heft.

I don't like the P6... my P10 was much better sounding. But T6 beats them both imo. Those who say they don't like it haven't owned one, clearly, it's a stunner but you have to use it yourself and see the range and beauty of sounds it makes to know this. Also the most powerful synth Sequential made in terms of raw VCO power (P10 and OBx8 lack subs/3 oscs and layering isn't the same thing at all), everything else only has 2+sub or is DCO or digital hybrid.. meh.
Trigon-6 (Keyboard) | Prophet 10 Rev 4 (gone) | OB-6 (gone)

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2024, 07:36:15 AM »
Does the Trigon have panel-mounted pots? (unlike the OB6 or P6)
I've seen people say the knobs are stiff to turn, so that makes me think yes?

Also, I think the last OS update addressed the aftertouch sensitivity, so is it better now?

As an owner of trigon for many many months now, I can say the knobs are only stiff to begin with. They've done that to PREVENT the issues the OB6 and P6 had, those loose, wobbly pots (I recall the cut off knob on my ex OB-6 would move side to side). So while none of them are bolted on, the T6 FEELS bolted on cos they are so smooth and tight pot-shaft wise.

Once they loosen up they are super easy to turn and very smooth, great for hitting all those nuances (of which there are many on the T6 vs the other 2 synths) and feels really well put together and more expensive somehow than the other 2 (layout is also MUCH better)
Trigon-6 (Keyboard) | Prophet 10 Rev 4 (gone) | OB-6 (gone)

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2024, 07:15:37 AM »
Those who say they don't like it haven't owned one, clearly

I agree with all of your points actually, except when it comes to assuming other people should feel the same way. It's all just a matter of personal taste.

And I can imagine that some people are passing on the Trigon because it is presenting itself as a Moog flavor, with ladder filters among other things. Some people might prefer to buy an actual Moog for that (the One, or waiting for the Muse to be released). Personally I have no interest in directly comparing the Trigon to a Polymoog or whatever. To me the Trigon is a new thing, with its own sound. And it's definitely my favorite from the 6 series.

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2024, 03:40:33 PM »
Used to have a PolyMoog Keyboard. It was the less expensive one with less features than the PolyMoog
Synthisizer. I think the Trigon6 sounds better than both PolyMoogs although the PolyMoog Synthsizer
was better than the PolyMoog Keyboard in my opinion.The PolyMoog Synth was 5 K when it came out.
I remember reading the PolyMoog was a failure for Moog.

Re: Trigon Pros & Cons
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2024, 07:24:48 PM »
I think the Trigon6 sounds better than both PolyMoogs

In my post above I mean to say MemoryMoog instead. But no matter, my point really was that I think the Trigon has its own mojo going on, and is different enough to sit along side a Moog, not replace one.