Weird Midi glitches when using as Midi Controller in Ableton/Macbook Pro

[ambientcloud]

Noticing a few things- one eventually after using it as my Midi controller after however many minutes I notice it starts sending delayed signals to whatever VST I'm using. Unplugging it and plugging back in fixes it but it can be annoying.

The second glitch I notice is it will start making a VST continously play a note as if I pressed a 'hold' type button, which I haven't. Turning the VST on and off ends up fixing it but again, kind of an annoying glitch.

Wondering if I shouldn't be using the Take 5 for VST's outside of using it for it's own sounds?   But from my understanding that shouldn't be a problem generally.

Any ideas if this is normal or how to potentially fix that?

Thanks

[lewisfrancis]

Noticing a few things- one eventually after using it as my Midi controller after however many minutes I notice it starts sending delayed signals to whatever VST I'm using. Unplugging it and plugging back in fixes it but it can be annoying.

The second glitch I notice is it will start making a VST continously play a note as if I pressed a 'hold' type button, which I haven't. Turning the VST on and off ends up fixing it but again, kind of an annoying glitch.

Wondering if I shouldn't be using the Take 5 for VST's outside of using it for it's own sounds?   But from my understanding that shouldn't be a problem generally.

Any ideas if this is normal or how to potentially fix that?

Thanks

If you disable your Take 5's ability to respond to MIDI data when using it as a controller does that help?

[ambientcloud]

If you disable your Take 5's ability to respond to MIDI data when using it as a controller does that help?

Not sure.  Would that be the Midi Control option or Midi Syx, etc?

[lewisfrancis]

If you disable your Take 5's ability to respond to MIDI data when using it as a controller does that help?

Not sure.  Would that be the Midi Control option or Midi Syx, etc?

If you are using the MIDI Din ports then just unplugging the Take 5's MIDI in would be an easy way to test this.

Otherwise, you can turn off Local control under the Global settings and see if that helps.

[ambientcloud]

If you disable your Take 5's ability to respond to MIDI data when using it as a controller does that help?

Not sure.  Would that be the Midi Control option or Midi Syx, etc?

If you are using the MIDI Din ports then just unplugging the Take 5's MIDI in would be an easy way to test this.

Otherwise, you can turn off Local control under the Global settings and see if that helps.

Turning off local control did seem to work but then it didn't work when I wanted to use it for it's sound.  I guess maybe working at as both at the same time might be more complicated 

[lewisfrancis]

If you disable your Take 5's ability to respond to MIDI data when using it as a controller does that help?

Not sure.  Would that be the Midi Control option or Midi Syx, etc?

If you are using the MIDI Din ports then just unplugging the Take 5's MIDI in would be an easy way to test this.

Otherwise, you can turn off Local control under the Global settings and see if that helps.

Turning off local control did seem to work but then it didn't work when I wanted to use it for it's sound.  I guess maybe working at as both at the same time might be more complicated

Well, Local Off means that the keyboard is transmitting MIDI data but the "local" synth engine ignores said data. So you should still be able to hear the Take 5 using Local Off if you record a MIDI track in Ableton and assign the MIDI output of that track to the Take 5.

I'm finding that developing a DAW workflow with external synths is way harder than keeping it all "in the box" and I'm slowly working it all out myself in Logic, but hopefully another Ableton user will chime in with more specific tips.

[lewisfrancis]

Turning off local control did seem to work but then it didn't work when I wanted to use it for it's sound.  I guess maybe working at as both at the same time might be more complicated

FWIW when Local Control is off I only hear the Take 5 in Logic when its MIDI track Record mode is enabled, or while recording that track.

[ambientcloud]

Turning off local control did seem to work but then it didn't work when I wanted to use it for it's sound.  I guess maybe working at as both at the same time might be more complicated

FWIW when Local Control is off I only hear the Take 5 in Logic when its MIDI track Record mode is enabled, or while recording that track.

Thanks for the info.  I'll keep these in mind while trying to figure out how to integrate it.

[Elric]

I'm old but, back in the day, we had to worry about "MIDI echo".
This sounds a bit like that.
Input and output have to be separated properly. They can "bounce" back into each other(?)
 
And, the newer (Sequential) synths have "MIDI In" separated into categories.
And "MIDI Out", also separated into categories.
[That would be the settings in Global/MIDI on my Pro3.]

[Antony]

I'm old but, back in the day, we had to worry about "MIDI echo".

That's a MIDI loop.
I think you are correct -possibly something is allowing MIDI THru, or the DAW has Record Monitoring enabled and the MIDI is  looping back.