Pro 3 Wavetable Drum Grooves

Pro 3 Wavetable Drum Grooves
« on: December 12, 2022, 11:16:23 AM »
Hi,

I just bought the Pro 3 SE and so far I'm really happy with it - just a few days in.

I was really interested to watch the Julian Pollack (J3PO) demo on the sequencer and how he uses the 808 wavetable with the sequencer to create a drum groove isolating the different percussion sounds in the wavetable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUPKAAjlhUw

Iíve tried to replicate this also with the Low Linn wavetable but struggling to get there. I tried to use the aux envelope with the amount affecting the Shape Mod and then have one of the LFOs modulating the Env Amount.

IT kinda worked but nowhere near as defined as the example.

Does anyone know the exact approach of how to get this working with individual drum sounds isolated per steps of the sequence? Also are there any resources for further drum patches / tables for the pro 3.

Thanks,
AliJ


Re: Pro 3 Wavetable Drum Grooves
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2022, 12:59:58 PM »
I have experimented with drum sequencing, with the internal drum wavetables, and some custom wavetables I created.

The first thing to consider is that each of the drum wavetables contains 4-16 different samples, and each of the samples starts at a different point in the wavetable.   Here's the approach you will most likely want to take:

1. Set up an aux envelope to Osc3 Shape Mod, like you mentioned you have.  For the amount, you'll need to experiment, but start with some relatively low amounts, like -15 amount.  For the ADSR amounts, start with something like 0,20,0,20 for the Aux Envelope.

2. For the Filter Cutoff envelope, try starting with ADSR values of approx 0,40,50,40.  And for Amp envelope try starting with 0,40,0,40.   You'll need to experiment with the filter cutoff and sustain to suit the sound.

3. Set up some steps in the sequencer to play a C... like every fourth step to start.   Start the sequencer.  Set a seq lane to go to Osc3 Shape Mod.   For each step, you now need to experiment with the Osc3 Shape Mod Offset... this involves some trial/error/listening to find where each different sample starts.  (just use the soft knobs to navigate to each appropriate step and set a value)  For instance, you might want to try and find the kick drum, snare drum, and hihat sounds first.   As you adjust the offset in the sequencer step, you'll hear different sounds...   and depending on what you set for amount in Aux envelope, that will determine how far from the offset point the sound sample plays (and at what speed)

4. You will probably also want to route some of the sequence lanes to the Decay/Release of the envelopes, to fine tune the wavetable scan speed, and/or the cutoff/amp... and it will differ depending on whether its a kick sound, snare, hats, toms, etc... you can fine tune each step in the seq.   

I uploaded a custom sampled 707 wavetable here:
https://www.presetpatch.com/f/Sequential-Pro-3/35_707Kit16_syx

Here's a demo I put together using drum wavetable sequencing and the four phrase lanes to play a drum sequence with variations in real time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_uJF2OwdWw

« Last Edit: December 12, 2022, 01:02:44 PM by creativespiral »

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Re: Pro 3 Wavetable Drum Grooves
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2022, 02:47:51 PM »
 
I have experimented with drum sequencing, with the internal drum wavetables, and some custom wavetables I created.


Brilliant - thanks for taking the time to reply and love your example..I will dive in and see how I go!!

Re: Pro 3 Wavetable Drum Grooves
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2023, 04:37:43 PM »
Does anyone know where I can find a 909 wavetable? I found a 707 wavetable here: https://www.presetpatch.com/f/sequential-pro-3/35_707kit16_syx

Also I see there's already an 808 wavetable preset on the pro 3.