Prophet 12 Music

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #140 on: August 18, 2017, 09:29:36 PM »
Pairing the keyboard and the module is for both types of uses...

Thanks for the explanation  ;)

The only detail that the P12 architecture disappoints me is the inability to directly pan the oscillators independently within a voice, though as I mentioned in another thread, multi track recording is my medium so I've developed ways around that.  I believe you've said before that you don't multi track, so running 2 in parallel stereo sounds like a great solution...that's a lot of Prophet Power  8)
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #141 on: August 19, 2017, 02:44:11 AM »
Heres a couple of albums i made using only the prophet 12 for synth and 99 percent tempest for drums:

https://open.spotify.com/album/2BNLyROMBrC4eyvzhhGTHe

https://open.spotify.com/album/0Eh7ZYtdZBPvI0cxTDjD6J

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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #142 on: August 19, 2017, 08:57:09 AM »
Pairing the keyboard and the module is for both types of uses...

Thanks for the explanation  ;)

The only detail that the P12 architecture disappoints me is the inability to directly pan the oscillators independently within a voice, though as I mentioned in another thread, multi track recording is my medium so I've developed ways around that.  I believe you've said before that you don't multi track, so running 2 in parallel stereo sounds like a great solution...that's a lot of Prophet Power  8)

We've both found workarounds that serve our purposes.  One more alternative is to use the two pair of output jacks and be content with six voices panned in stereo, such as I did this past month.  This is one of the reasons I'm always praising the Poly Evolver Keyboard.  It has hardwired stereo oscillators that can be brought into mono by degrees.  It's just perfect, and it's the cause of my appreciation for stereo synthesis.  But I can't figure out why Dave has never repeated this design.
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #143 on: August 19, 2017, 09:41:28 AM »

Thanks for the explanation  ;)

The only detail that the P12 architecture disappoints me is the inability to directly pan the oscillators independently within a voice, though as I mentioned in another thread, multi track recording is my medium so I've developed ways around that.  I believe you've said before that you don't multi track, so running 2 in parallel stereo sounds like a great solution...that's a lot of Prophet Power  8)

We've both found workarounds that serve our purposes.  This is one of the reasons I'm always praising the Poly Evolver Keyboard.  It has hardwired stereo oscillators that can be brought into mono by degrees.  It's just perfect, and it's the cause of my appreciation for stereo synthesis.  But I can't figure out why Dave has never repeated this design.

Hey, too bad we can't commission Dave to build a custom synth with the stereo oscillators of the PEK, modulation matrix of the P12 and large PEK sized characters displaying all or just active parameters of the info of the P12 OLED.  I think that could be a compromise to make us both crazy happy   8)

You know it's funny, back in '79 my very 1st keyboard was a Yamaha CP20 electric piano.  I couldn't afford anything else for a couple years so I ran that CP20 through every effects pedal I could find to create new non-piano sounds (Rat distortion, Small Stone phase shifter, Boss chorus and compressor, Memory Man analog echo, etc...)  It's sometimes the limitations of an instrument that give us inspiration to think outside the box.  Frank Zappa might say, by necessity we become mothers of invention  ;)
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #144 on: August 19, 2017, 09:56:37 AM »
I agree; limitation is good and results in a deeper use of one's creativity.  But that idea you've got for a super DSI cut-and-paste synthesizer sounds good, too!  Can it be Evolver blue?  ;D

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #145 on: August 19, 2017, 01:30:59 PM »
I agree; limitation is good and results in a deeper use of one's creativity.  But that idea you've got for a super DSI cut-and-paste synthesizer sounds good, too!  Can it be Evolver blue?  ;D

Yours can!  I'll take mine in Halloween orange  ;)
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #146 on: August 20, 2017, 06:07:54 PM »

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #147 on: August 20, 2017, 10:56:16 PM »
Nice stuff there.

A shame you won't be doing anymore, I think your pieces will be very helpful to people looking at getting the P12. They will definitely help quash the urban myth that the P12 sounds bad!

Sacred Synthesis

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #148 on: August 20, 2017, 11:02:38 PM »
Thanks, Bob.  Yes, I hope the pieces have that effect.  I tried to provide what has been largely missing.  After all, I'm partly to blame for that urban myth.
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #149 on: October 30, 2017, 10:44:29 AM »
Well I'm seeing that the P12 is a "natural choice" for creating all sorts of creatures.   Just completed this one (all P12) which has the progression of birds,  spring peepers, geese, owl, and wolves, etc.     Brushes on drum are acoustic

https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/hidden-in-the-hemlocks

A few years ago I did a similar piece (called the Happy Raccoon) that also used some "hammer dulcimer".   That piece utilized sampled waves into a PEK from an actual dulcimer instrument.   Here I just used the P12 to approximate, but I its close. 
Sequential/DSI Equipment: Poly Evolver Keyboard, Evolver desktop,   Pro-2, Pro-3, OB6, P-12,
 

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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #150 on: October 31, 2017, 02:51:41 AM »
What an excellent piece! I made a track some years ago using birdsong, but I used recordings and created the music around it. You have a good ear for the birdsong and a sensitive touch on the P12!

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #151 on: October 31, 2017, 08:01:36 AM »
Thank you Chaparral
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #152 on: October 31, 2017, 08:25:53 AM »
Soundquest, you have a real talent for emulating nature sounds.  I've often wanted to do the same, but I don't think I could come close to your ability.  I'm curious, though - how or why do you have such an interest?  Are you a outdoorsman?

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #153 on: November 01, 2017, 11:12:26 AM »
Thanks Sacred Synthesis.    I do like the outdoors and try to get to quiet environments like in Southern Ohio and in the mountains of West Virginia every so often to refresh.  Doing so often reminds me just how noisy today's world is, especially now, when even the gas pumps have a TV screen blasting commercials at you.

It's perhaps an interesting story how I got into synthesis in the first place- which is related.    I used to help my older brother build those Radio Shack electronic kits.  Some were quite nice, like the "electronic bird".  By moving jumper wires from one spring to the next you could emulate different bird calls.  At that time I was just a kid, but I really liked this Tomita album he had called "Kosmos".  It was so just amazingly unworldly, yet earthy.  I'd sit there listening to it , looking at the album picture of Tomita surrounded by his synths, and think...man, I'd love to do that someday.  And so...I'd pick up that darn electronic bird kit and just pretend :)

Well, I ended up playing drumset most of my life instead, but that all changed about 9 years ago.   I was walking into Guitar Center to buy a cymbal, and instead of that, I left with a used Novation K station.  That's when I realized...hey,  they actually make affordable consumer equipment that can do those old Tomita sounds.  Keep in mind that I knew nothing about synths at that point, but since then slowly learned, and much thru the wonderful knowledge of the folks on the DSI forum(s).  So, the quest continues full-circle I guess, and once again brings me back to making bird sounds.   

Sequential/DSI Equipment: Poly Evolver Keyboard, Evolver desktop,   Pro-2, Pro-3, OB6, P-12,
 

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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #154 on: November 01, 2017, 12:31:55 PM »
I heartily agree with your first paragraph.  I'm even more extreme about it, as I think the pictures in my "videos" suggest.

That was an interesting and somewhat humorous personal story.  Somehow, you took a left turn into percussion, only later to take a right turn into synthesizer.  I'm glad you finally made it here!
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #155 on: November 02, 2017, 06:36:38 AM »
Good stuff. ... (Gas pumps have become annoying.)

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« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2017, 04:23:09 AM »
I do like the outdoors and try to get to quiet environments like in Southern Ohio and in the mountains of West Virginia every so often to refresh.  Doing so often reminds me just how noisy today's world is, especially now, when even the gas pumps have a TV screen blasting commercials at you.

It's funny, as I was recently doing some field recordings. And while I'm generally a city person and very used to and forgiving of all kinds of noises, my recording purpose shifted my awareness. Not that it led me to any significantly new insights, but me trying to capture particular sounds from the surrounding area was like putting a magnifying glass on everything.

Peter Kirn published an interesting article about the sound designer Francis Preve this summer. It contains some really outstanding examples of emulated nature and everyday sounds. The starting point of it all is basically how limited and limiting the clichéd synth sounds are most sound designers are asked to do (basses, leads, brasses, etc.) compared to the sonic richness that surrounds us on a daily basis.

Here's the article: http://cdm.link/2017/08/used-synthesizers-emulate-nature-reality/

Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2017, 09:52:22 AM »
Paul Dither

Interesting,  thanks
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Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #158 on: November 07, 2017, 10:35:59 AM »
If DSI ever does produce that Sampler everyone wants it be neat to just walk around the woods or city and get some sounds recorded and then bring those sounds back into the studio. I may try that with my Korg Microsampler.

Does anyone have any DX7 type Prophet 12 examples? FM Electric piano, FM sitar, fm bass, fm chimes, FM choir they can post?


Re: Prophet 12 Music
« Reply #159 on: November 07, 2017, 01:26:04 PM »
While not exhaustive by any means, there are some examples in our linear FM P12 video: https://youtu.be/YB9a2lPjzEo?t=2m47s
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