Tempest Main 1.5.0.2 and Voice 1.5 - Bug Reports

[timbo74]

I am not at Tempest now but worthy of trying is after all the calibrations is to "Initialise project" for a clean slate.

[timbo74]

In the past I found that after firmware updates that the startup project would have voices all over the place so have been Initilising project ever since.

At least it appears to work for me.

[RobH]

I am not at Tempest now but worthy of trying is after all the calibrations is to "Initialise project" for a clean slate.

I intialised, it loaded up the exact same files as when i had reset system parameters, A10 will not choke A12. I have spent too long on this today to start checking all the pads that won't be choked.

[cbmd]

Try setting A12 to ADSR mode and turn on an oscillator, this will make the choke easier to hear.  Hold A12 and press A10.  You should here A12 stop when you press A10 if all is configured correctly

[RobH]

Try setting A12 to ADSR mode and turn on an oscillator, this will make the choke easier to hear.  Hold A12 and press A10.  You should here A12 stop when you press A10 if all is configured correctly

Ok, so if i do this like you say, it chokes. If i record notes on the 4ths on both pads A10 and A12 and play it no choke occurs even with the oscillator turned on and the adsr mode. The notes played from the sequencer result in no choke basically is what im seeing my end. If i press the A10 pad it chokes normally but sequenced notes have no choke effect.

Choking the other way around choking A10 works correctly.

[cbmd]

Not seeing that here.  Try this, with record on and sequencer in playback, hold Pad 12 so that it records the note with duration.  While still holding pad 12, press pad 10.  Stop playback and replay.  You should here pad 12 choked when pad 10 is pressed.

[RobH]

Not seeing that here.  Try this, with record on and sequencer in playback, hold Pad 12 so that it records the note with duration.  While still holding pad 12, press pad 10.  Stop playback and replay.  You should here pad 12 choked when pad 10 is pressed.

Ok, so the chokes are based literally on the midi note size?

God knows, now i have done what you said and the opposite is happening now i cant choke A10, i'll leave this until tommorow now maybe a fresh brain will help understand this its not logical.

[Trevor Refix]

Just to keep everyone updated

I updated to 1.4.5.11 yesterday and after updating and calibrating, I played around and troubleshot for a few hours. I got one dropped voice in my session. Thankfully (for me), it wasn't when my Octatrack was connected so I can stop wondering if there's some voodoo coming from there. I had built 2 extremely basic midi tracks in ableton (one on channel 2 and one on channel 10) and was sending them to my Tempest. The midi line didn't cause any issues, but a few minutes later when I was just noodling around through my beats I had a voice drop (not the midi voices).

The interesting thing is that I had been playing around in and out of this set already for an hour with no drops, but once I switched from using a straight USB cable to one of those usb/midi combos cables, I had that drop withing a few minutes. Could be a coincidence I guess, but I thought using the hardware midi in jack on my Tempest would be a closer representation of how my actual set up is. No clock or cc was being sent, sequencer not running.

For anyone else that is still getting voice drops - do you have a midi cable plugged in (as oppose to usb)? Or for those of you that haven't got any on 1.4.5.11, are you using the midi in jack?

[RobH]

I just have usb plugged in, i wasn't running any midi data other than clock to the T when i got the drops yesterday, even so midi data shouldn't cause two voices to drop like they did imo.

[adsrchris]

Hi,

I'm running Tempest OS 1.4.5.11 and have a problem with VCA modulation.

When I set the Mod3 to Note number source, amount 35 and destination VCA, I get the VCA constantly running and never stopping although the sound cycle is finished. The only way I found to stop it is by setting Mod3 to another destination which happens to stop this.

Looks like a bug in the OS.
Hope you can sort this out.

[Sontag]

For anyone else that is still getting voice drops - do you have a midi cable plugged in (as oppose to usb)? Or for those of you that haven't got any on 1.4.5.11, are you using the midi in jack?

I reformated the flash drive, reloaded the voice os, calibrated and loaded all of my old projects ( created on various previous betas) back in. i just played for 3 hours with no voiceloss. and yes i had my tempest slaved via midi in for recording, but no midiinformation except start stop and clock.

[cbmd]

Hi,

I'm running Tempest OS 1.4.5.11 and have a problem with VCA modulation.

When I set the Mod3 to Note number source, amount 35 and destination VCA, I get the VCA constantly running and never stopping although the sound cycle is finished. The only way I found to stop it is by setting Mod3 to another destination which happens to stop this.

Looks like a bug in the OS.
Hope you can sort this out.

Not a bug, this is expected.  What you're likely wanting to modulate is the AMP ENV AMT parameter and not the VCA level.

[adsrchris]

Hi,

I'm running Tempest OS 1.4.5.11 and have a problem with VCA modulation.

When I set the Mod3 to Note number source, amount 35 and destination VCA, I get the VCA constantly running and never stopping although the sound cycle is finished. The only way I found to stop it is by setting Mod3 to another destination which happens to stop this.

Looks like a bug in the OS.
Hope you can sort this out.

Not a bug, this is expected.  What you're likely wanting to modulate is the AMP ENV AMT parameter and not the VCA level.

Hi Cbmd,
Thanks for the tip. Will try this.
Regards,
Chris

[cbmd]

1.4.5.12 OS has been posted.  There are some changes which could potentially fix additional reported voice drop outs.

[RobH]

No voice drops so far on my end. I'll try to force some later in the way i was getting them (albeit somewhat randomly result wise) later. Good shit!!!

[adsrchris]

Facing a problem with some sounds constantly sustaining. So, the only solution to stop this is to switch off the Tempest. I face this problem a.o. with the Engine hum preset patch in the bass category, which I can't stop.

[RobH]

Facing a problem with some sounds constantly sustaining. So, the only solution to stop this is to switch off the Tempest. I face this problem a.o. with the Engine hum preset patch in the bass category, which I can't stop.

I don't actually have any presets/factory banks installed, but have you checked that the release is not set to 127 or also that the none of the lfos are assigned to the VCA (this could also be assigned in the mod matrix as you can assign things to the lfos in there also).

If you check that and can't work it out still, export the file via midi and upload it  (C6 is the best program to do this) and i'll take a look and see if i can work out why the sound is not stopping.

[Trevor Refix]

I unfortunately​ only had 30 minutes to test it (life got real busy), but after installing 1.4.5.12 I DIDN'T get a dropped voice in those 30 minutes which makes me cautiously optimistic as I was getting them pretty regularly with the previous OS versions.

I won't have time to dive in again until Friday when I'll be doing 2 sets at a show  - which will be a much more definitive test - so I'll keep my fingers crossed until then and report back after that .

[cbmd]

That's tentatively good news!  Thanks for the report. 

[Cole]

Is DSI going to release an official last OS soon?