Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...

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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #820 on: July 06, 2018, 12:04:14 AM »
Truly great patches and soundscapes Razmo. Hearing them really inspires me to get more out of my own Rev2. I also very much appreciate your comments about the foot pedal. Such a small addition at relatively low cost sounds like a great investment.
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #821 on: July 09, 2018, 01:46:20 PM »
A new REV2 sound... I'm trying to replicate the four elements, and have done both Water, Wind and Fire now... the hardest one to do is probably Earth...

Here is a preset representing fire, called "Fire Elemental":

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/FireElemental.mp3

No external FX, just the crackling and rumblings of fire... pedal acts like if you blew air at a burning fire, or the folly effect of a fantasy fire elemental getting aggressive :)
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« Reply #822 on: July 09, 2018, 01:50:02 PM »
A new REV2 sound... I'm trying to replicate the four elements, and have done both Water, Wind and Fire now... the hardest one to do is probably Earth...

Here is a preset representing fire, called "Fire Elemental":

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/FireElemental.mp3

No external FX, just the crackling and rumblings of fire... pedal acts like if you blew air at a burning fire, or the folly effect of a fantasy fire elemental getting aggressive :)
Great work... You're firing on all cylinders now!
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #823 on: July 09, 2018, 01:50:45 PM »
Truly great patches and soundscapes Razmo. Hearing them really inspires me to get more out of my own Rev2. I also very much appreciate your comments about the foot pedal. Such a small addition at relatively low cost sounds like a great investment.

Thank you for the compliment :) ... you can very well dive into your REV2... it's capable of more than you'd think :) ... and yes... a pedal... at first I thought it would be hard to properly tweak something with my foot, making it unprecise and jumpy, but that is definitely not the case... at least not with this MOOG pedal... I'm actually beginning to wish that the REV2 had two foot pedal inputs, so I could control something with both feet while still have my hands on the keys/wheels :)
« Last Edit: July 09, 2018, 01:53:07 PM by Razmo »
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #824 on: July 09, 2018, 01:51:18 PM »
A new REV2 sound... I'm trying to replicate the four elements, and have done both Water, Wind and Fire now... the hardest one to do is probably Earth...

Here is a preset representing fire, called "Fire Elemental":

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/FireElemental.mp3

No external FX, just the crackling and rumblings of fire... pedal acts like if you blew air at a burning fire, or the folly effect of a fantasy fire elemental getting aggressive :)
Great work... You're firing on all cylinders now!
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Thank you ... and yes, you could say that :D
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #825 on: July 09, 2018, 02:15:22 PM »
Here is the Air and Water elementals... nothing but 100% REV2 here:

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/AirElemental.mp3
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/WaterElemental.mp3
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #826 on: July 09, 2018, 11:23:25 PM »
Truly great patches and soundscapes Razmo. Hearing them really inspires me to get more out of my own Rev2. I also very much appreciate your comments about the foot pedal. Such a small addition at relatively low cost sounds like a great investment.

Thank you for the compliment :) ... you can very well dive into your REV2... it's capable of more than you'd think :) ... and yes... a pedal... at first I thought it would be hard to properly tweak something with my foot, making it unprecise and jumpy, but that is definitely not the case... at least not with this MOOG pedal... I'm actually beginning to wish that the REV2 had two foot pedal inputs, so I could control something with both feet while still have my hands on the keys/wheels :)
I am really grateful you publish your sound files. It provides me with a great learning exercise. Knowing what is possible just using the Rev2 + outboard effects and then figuring out for myself how to reverse engineer your sounds is cool. Learning is always a lot of fun, going through the patch sheets created by shiihs also helps a lot.

The amazing thing that happens is that I rarely re-create a similar sounding patch as yours, but discover whole new audio territory. I might start doing the same as you and put small mp3s on my site.

Most of the time I am working on a track, decide on the chords/note combinations, then I program patches to go and work with the track on different synths. Sometimes I work the other way around. I create a few patches and write a song around that sound set.

By the way my second EP was published on Spotify/iTunes etc. last Monday! Feels great, childhood dream come true.
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« Reply #827 on: July 10, 2018, 12:02:58 PM »
Right now I wish I could get a wireless breath controller that could go directly into the MIDI input of the REV2... that would be the ultimate extra control really...

If you like a more complex and expensive foot controller solution then KMI SoftStep 2 looks quite interesting:
https://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/
https://www.thomann.de/dk/keith_mcmillen_softstep_2.htm

It does take some time to program though. Disclaimer: I don't have one myself but its on my GAS List (TM).
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #828 on: July 11, 2018, 01:33:04 AM »
Right now I wish I could get a wireless breath controller that could go directly into the MIDI input of the REV2... that would be the ultimate extra control really...

If you like a more complex and expensive foot controller solution then KMI SoftStep 2 looks quite interesting:
https://www.keithmcmillen.com/products/softstep/
https://www.thomann.de/dk/keith_mcmillen_softstep_2.htm

It does take some time to program though. Disclaimer: I don't have one myself but its on my GAS List (TM).

Havent seen this... but I do not think this is for me... the pads are too small, and I'd have to be looking at the device while using it to make sure I hit the right pad with my foot... if it had been laid out in another physical way it might have been interesting if it has direct MIDI connection possible, since it would have been a great way to include control for any keyboard synth that has more MIDI CC controller reception than it has physical controls... Someone ought to create a device that would interface expression pedals (lets say 4 or 8 pedals), and then convert those to MIDI... if such a device was available I'd most likely get one.

Now that I think of it... i could easily create such a device using a simple PIC MCU... the PIC I've got has up to 10 ADCs onboard, and also a Serial device for MIDI I/O... it would be nothing more than connecting the pedal to the ADCs, as they are basically just a simple pot, and the MIDI code would be dead simple to make, even in assembly language. 10 pedals could be connected, and each made to send a specific CC# out via MIDI on any of 16 MIDI channels.
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #829 on: July 13, 2018, 09:56:59 AM »
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/Dreams.mp3

Here is two new presets for the REV2... Dreamscape and Dreampulse... Valhalla Shimmer used for reverb, otherwise just REV2 :)
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #830 on: July 16, 2018, 06:18:15 AM »
Two new sounds for the REV2... these are a bit on the moody side.

Moon Harp & Skeleton Dulcimer

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/TwoSounds.mp3

I've now done 32 presets... that's only 25% of a full bank... it certainly takes time...
« Last Edit: July 16, 2018, 06:29:28 AM by Razmo »
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« Reply #831 on: July 16, 2018, 07:33:30 AM »
Two new sounds for the REV2... these are a bit on the moody side.

Moon Harp & Skeleton Dulcimer

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/TwoSounds.mp3

I've now done 32 presets... that's only 25% of a full bank... it certainly takes time...

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« Reply #832 on: July 25, 2018, 05:38:32 AM »

Right now I wish I could get a wireless breath controller that could go directly into the MIDI input of the REV2... that would be the ultimate extra control really...

Would this work for you?
http://pandamidi.com/midibeam/

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« Reply #833 on: July 25, 2018, 08:02:21 AM »

Right now I wish I could get a wireless breath controller that could go directly into the MIDI input of the REV2... that would be the ultimate extra control really...

Would this work for you?
http://pandamidi.com/midibeam/

It's a cool thing for what it does... unfortunately, the reason i want a breath controller to be wireless is that it's a pain to wear a headset like on the BC3, or others that have long chords running from the device... so this midibeam device will not solve that problem I'm afraid... I guess such a breath controller would have to be specifically made for a wireless connection somehow...
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #834 on: July 25, 2018, 10:28:18 AM »


Right now I wish I could get a wireless breath controller that could go directly into the MIDI input of the REV2... that would be the ultimate extra control really...

Would this work for you?
http://pandamidi.com/midibeam/

It's a cool thing for what it does... unfortunately, the reason i want a breath controller to be wireless is that it's a pain to wear a headset like on the BC3, or others that have long chords running from the device... so this midibeam device will not solve that problem I'm afraid... I guess such a breath controller would have to be specifically made for a wireless connection somehow...

I wonder if itís something Panda Midi could make, given there doesnít seem to be any competitor, incorporating their wireless technology into it.

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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #835 on: July 25, 2018, 11:45:53 AM »


Right now I wish I could get a wireless breath controller that could go directly into the MIDI input of the REV2... that would be the ultimate extra control really...

Would this work for you?
http://pandamidi.com/midibeam/

It's a cool thing for what it does... unfortunately, the reason i want a breath controller to be wireless is that it's a pain to wear a headset like on the BC3, or others that have long chords running from the device... so this midibeam device will not solve that problem I'm afraid... I guess such a breath controller would have to be specifically made for a wireless connection somehow...

I wonder if itís something Panda Midi could make, given there doesnít seem to be any competitor, incorporating their wireless technology into it.

Would be cool if they could because to me, a small device with batteries, the size of a whistle, with wireless transmission to a receiver-dongle with a MIDI output would be absolutely cool... I hate it when you have to wear a headset for it and cables you only get entangled in...

They can make USB receivers for computer mice... it could be basically the same except that the transmitter should be a breath controller...
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #836 on: July 29, 2018, 05:04:36 PM »
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/REV2.mp3

Link above is to a short demo of a few of my programs playing together... the demo is actually REV2 playing all by itself... no external FX was used... I wanted to see how satisfied I'd be if I only used the REV2's own built in FX.

And I've come to the conclusion, that it's really well capable of standing its own... at least for my usage... i know that many do not like it's reverb, but I've learned to actually like it as it is... you can make it sound quite ok, especially when you use layer tricks... usually the problem is a lack of modulation in the reverb algorithms, but using layer B you can actually "cheat" the reverb... if you was a lush reverb, then you need to have a bit of vibrato on the main dry sound... that is what makes the reverb sound less sterile, and more lush... but in many cases you do not want this so it must be done in another way... I simply copy Layer A to B, and set Layer B's FX Mix parameter to 100%... this way i only get the reverb from layer B... after this you can add some vibrato to Layer B's sound via normal LFO modulation... this way, the dry sound is playing from layer A with no vibrato, and layer B is doing the reverb 100% wet on layer B's sound with vibrato...

Why not just use external FX? ... because i actually like to tailor an FX specifically to a program... i like the idea that it's part of the program... so I'm strongly considering not using external FX in the future... also, if I am to create banks of programs to sell, the programs would have to stand on their own, and sound their best possible... it also simplifies using my DAW... I will only be using it to record the tracks and play them together... that's it...

With time I'll be getting more synths, and thus those would have to have internal FX as well... but I'm in no hurry to get any... I'm really fine with using just the REV2 at the moment... I'm learning A HELL OF A LOT about sound design these days... more than I have ever been because I only have this one synth to focus on... I want to be a "REV2 Master Ninja!" before i get anything else.

I do have a few synths on the list for the future now though... Prophet X is probably my "most wanted" and the one I'm now saving up for... by the end of 2018 it should be in my grasp, and at that time I will have created at least one full bank of presets for the REV2 and consider myself "REV2 graduated" :)

I've currently done about 40 programs, and I'm constantly revising them... I work with them in a rather special way... at first I try to create a program using only Layer A, without any FX, and making it sound as good as i can... that way I'm sure that even without FX added, it will sound as good as possible dry, and will have all 16 voices available in polyphony... next I add layer A FX to taste... now with that done the user can choose to stack Layer B on top, which will usually add a significant amount of depth to the sound, adding most of the ambience and stereo perspective to the sound... this way, if the user prefer external FX, they can switch off stack mode, and have full polyphony.

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« Reply #837 on: July 30, 2018, 03:45:18 AM »
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« Reply #838 on: July 30, 2018, 03:58:50 AM »
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/REV2.mp3

I'm getting a 404 there.

Yes... i took it down again as i found it sounded like shit really... it sometimes do when you've messed with it too long :D ... I'll replace the file after having done another version...
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Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Reply #839 on: July 30, 2018, 07:27:43 AM »
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/CelestialChoir.mp3

... I know it's not perfect, I know it's a little dark and I know it's a bit grungy.... but still... this is the best I have been able to get to a formant/choir like sound with the REV2 yet... I may learn new tricks in the future, but as a pad sound I think it's ok as it is.... in fact the dark nature of the sound can be an advantage, since it will not eat up all the frequency spectrum so that other instruments can fill out the top end, and even the low end... because it sounds a bit band-passed... whihc it actually also is because of two things: 1. The cutoff needs to be quite low for the resonance to kick in the formants, and the reverb which i use to create the choir-ambience is set to take out some low end to make it less boomy/boxy... the reverb is 100% wet... that is the major trick to getting sounds that feel "orchestral/ensemble" like in nature... so... filter acts as a lowpass, and FX acts as a hipass.... equals: bandpass :D

100% REV2 by the way... no external FX
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