Take 5 Firmware Update - Feature Requests

[Quatschmacher]

• Display the value on screen while moving a knob. This is already implemented for the LFO amount knob while the matrix is on display. Please do this for all knobs and also display their stored value, ideally in a graphical way, so that pot mode passthru becomes much more useful helping us understand how the active patch/preset was made.
• Please make HOLD + "Relatch On" available outside of ARP mode.
• While holding BANK the LED of the currently selected bank number should light up instead of the selected patch number.

Thank you so much for this awesome synth!

I believe the stored pot/button value is shown in the same way as on the 6-series synths via a dot in the 7-segment display when the saved value is reached.

[kpatz]

I believe the stored pot/button value is shown in the same way as on the 6-series synths via a dot in the 7-segment display when the saved value is reached.

It does show the dot.  But we have a wonderful OLED display that could show the current value and the saved value making it easier to see what the value actually is.  The dot only tells you you're on the preset value, but it doesn't tell you where you are.

[synthboy]

That small dot is so small and often very hard to notice when tweaking. I really like the "show" button on Rev2 and must admit that this shortcoming in Take 5 is both unneccesary and irritating.
But I haven't given up yet on an update

[stevedig]

After playing live with Take5 for about a month, these are the feature requests i think would help live performance with Take 5 the most:

Display value on screen while moving a knob.
On stage, I have no chance of seeing any dot. I wish this synth would show the current value and the saved value for all inputs. I use the FX and would like to see delay times as well as filter cutoff /etc. This would allow for faster and smoother updates when I'm tweaking knobs. i like doing it by ear, but on stage it would be great to know like if I need to twist a knob 3/4 of the way to get to the saved value.

EG always sustain when switching patches.
for me, even a harsh cut of the old patch is better then the new patch playing if i switch a little soon.
my second hand is busy playing and I have to switch patches now, but a blast of the new sound will play unless i wait..
I don't see any scenario where you want the EG to ring after switching patches but if they exist maybe it could be an option

Hard / impossible to change bank with one hand.
you have to hold the bank button down and select the bank.
with one hand you cant stretch thumb and finger to reach the top banks at all. can the bank button be activated until bank is selected or repressed?


 

[happyrat1]

I think the design philosophy of the last update was to sacrifice firmware complexity for a doubling of program slots.  The wisdom of that choice is debatable.

[Elric]

EG always sustains when switching patches.
for me, even a harsh cut of the old patch is better then the new patch playing if i switch a little soon.
my second hand is busy playing and I have to switch patches now, but a blast of the new sound will play unless i wait..
I don't see any scenario where you want the EG to ring after switching patches but if they exist maybe it could be an option

I think this one might be impossible? I'm not sure that it's the EG.
  On my Pro3 this kind of thing can happen, but I'm pretty sure it's the effects (delay/reverb) on the patch that is switched to. - The effects buffer has a sound in it, and it performs the new patches FX settings to that leftover "soundbyte"(?)

[Harp]

It would be great to have a way to scroll through presets with one of the encoders below the display:

Maybe it would be possible to enable this mode while holding the "Bank"-Button? This would be a quicker way to search for a preset (and it would be consistent with the rest of the UI - choosing the Unison Voices basically works the same way...).

[marino]

I absolutely second the request to see the current parameter value on the display while moving a knob. On my Pro 3 (and most other synths) it does it, and not having it takes much of the joy out of programming the Take 5. Extra points for showing the current value in conjunction with the stored value, one above the other.

[Taura]

Spoke about it with a friendly member of the Sequential team at the last Superbooth, he said it should be easy to implement:

+ Different modes for voice management.
Especially I would like to see implemented:
+ Do not steal notes from keys that are still being held (on the keyboard, not the sustain pedal).

Please have a look how voice management works on Minilogue XD, this works best in most musical applications.
There is also an interesting behavior to be observed whilst holding down the sustain pedal whilst adding notes.

[KenSmithAttic]

+1 to this: "Turn any parameter knob: The value appears in the display" just like my Pro3 and my Rev2!!!! This is NEEDED for live and studio work!!!

[lewisfrancis]

I would love it if there was an option to dump the sysex of the edit buffer.

My use case would be to store the patch data in my DAW along with the track on which the sound is used. That way the music and initial sound data are forever together.

I do miss my old Vision/Galaxy Plus integration.

[lewisfrancis]

I would love it if there was an option to dump the sysex of the edit buffer.

My use case would be to store the patch data in my DAW along with the track on which the sound is used. That way the music and initial sound data are forever together.

After posting this I took at look at the MIDI Implementation doc and figured out how to send and save sysex in Logic Pro, and so have created a template that requests the edit buffer and saves the response, which is maybe easier than updating the firmware to meet my use case.

[six6sixwitch]

Please please PLEASE make the screen more useful than just displaying the name of the patch.
The only thing from keeping this thing from being perfect. I want to see parameters. Korg got it right
with the Minilogue/Minilogue XD and I don't see why this   board can't give us the same level of information - i know getting visual waveforms might be a big ask but at least parameter values. PLEEEASE.

[Synthfreek]

Add major and minor pentatonic and blues scales to the list of scales.

[kpatz]

Now that desktop modules have been announced, how about adding poly chaining?

[darkestyugo]

I don't know if feature requests posted on here are actually being considered but I have two suggestions that I feel would add some value.

The first would be oscillator PWM as a mod destination. There are so many sounds I cannot program as the oscillators won't allow mixing a saw wave with a PWM pulse. Trying to set something like that up currently only results in a morphing sweep between the two wave shapes. Having independent modulation of the pulse width would add so much versatility.

Secondly, a proper ping-pong or dual stereo delay effect would be so useful. I know it can be kind of simulated using voice spread but I may not want the core sound panned. I'm thinking of like a sequenced sound with synced delays either ping-ponging around or rhythmically bouncing left/right at different rates.

I'm currently having to run the Take 5 through a Korg NTS-1 MK2 for these simple effects that I feel it should be able to do anyway.

This synth is so inspiring and just has a sound that works for me that these minor omissions don't really detract from using it. However these little things would just add that little extra bit of cherry on top! 

[gus]

I don't know if feature requests posted on here are actually being considered but I have two suggestions that I feel would add some value.

The first would be oscillator PWM as a mod destination. There are so many sounds I cannot program as the oscillators won't allow mixing a saw wave with a PWM pulse. Trying to set something like that up currently only results in a morphing sweep between the two wave shapes. Having independent modulation of the pulse width would add so much versatility.

Secondly, a proper ping-pong or dual stereo delay effect would be so useful. I know it can be kind of simulated using voice spread but I may not want the core sound panned. I'm thinking of like a sequenced sound with synced delays either ping-ponging around or rhythmically bouncing left/right at different rates.

I'm currently having to run the Take 5 through a Korg NTS-1 MK2 for these simple effects that I feel it should be able to do anyway.

This synth is so inspiring and just has a sound that works for me that these minor omissions don't really detract from using it. However these little things would just add that little extra bit of cherry on top!

Requests posted here (and anywhere on the forum) are considered. We check the forum daily for bugs/features/trends/etc. Ping pong stereo delay is on the list, so I will add a +1 to it. The PWM destination is interesting, I'm assuming you want that as an independent destination as opposed to modulating the latter half of the shape parameter? I'm not sure if it is possible, but I can add it to the list if that is what you mean.

[darkestyugo]

Yes a PWM destination would be handy as it is currently not possible to create a juno-style sound on one oscillator and have a mix of saw and a PWM'ed pulse. Modulating the shape just sweeps from saw through pulse and back again.
The implementation I'm suggesting is as per the Prophet 6 where PWM is separate from shape. There could be some interesting sounds to be had by modulating the mix of waveforms using shape as a destination whilst something else is modulating the width of the pulse.

[kpatz]

It should be in theory possible to have pulse width and shape separated in the mod matrix.  They’re handled separately in the hardware, it’s just the single knob user access to those parameters that’s mirrored in the mod matrix right now.

It could even be possible to make Sine Level, Saw Level, Pulse Level and Pulse Width all independent parameters to allow for wave combos not possible with the shape knob, like sine + pulse, or saw + PWM.  That assumes the waveform VCAs are controlled with separate DAC CV channels, which I would think they are.  This would open up the synth into not just Juno, but SH-101 sound design territory.

The TEO-5 gives you independent waveform selection, but not independent waveform levels.  It also gives independent PWM.

[ciso]

Are feature requests still being looked at?

How about the 2nd effect being Reverb *or* one of the other effect options?  This seems like a strange limitation.