Strange issue: osc1 intermittently "appearing" on voice 4

Re: Strange issue: osc1 intermittently "appearing" on voice 4
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2021, 09:01:00 AM »

Soundquest, I'm still waiting for your brilliant reflections on the Summit as a replacement for a Poly Evolver.  I realize that nothing can actually substitute for a PEK; the instrument is too unique.  But I'm thinking of the Summit's ability to have each layer processed separately and sent to opposite channels for a PEK-esque stereo depth.  Come on, now; you gotta help me here.  Are the two instruments at all comparable?  I need to make some decisions soon.

Well I have not been behind the Summit in several months.  Been distracted with the Nightsky Strymon effects box and a re-kindled Pro 2 OB6 affair.   But I might fire up the Novation this weekend.   The good news is that I like going back to an instrument after a hiatus  as it offers a fresh perspective of the strongest and weakest points.   I will  try to check Summits A/B layers manually panned out a bit.   I would image there are many ways to do this and move the sound around some for dreamy stereo like on P12 and PEK.  Strangely perhaps, my programming on Summit thus far has been very limited.  I'll let you know what I discover new.

From what I know already,  Summit can be made to make pads beyond a level possible on my other synths.  It's a strong statement, but true enough, imo.   I find it super great for horns and piano sounds too.   In regards to comparing to PEK: When I go back and look what I've done with PEK,  I see that my use of PEK has always involved a lot of sequencer (via soundtower), with short string plucks and short key sounds, and an occasional bird ;).  I had done relatively few pads or sustained strings with it, surprising as that might be.  So Sacred Synthesis,  the way that you and I approach the PEK  is probably quite a bit different.   That being said though, I'm certain that you would like the quality of sound that is achievable from Summit- especially for the the types of horns and pads that I hear you milk out of the PEK.  You may find that feat even easier  with the Summit.   I feel that the on-board digital waves on the PEK are actually a better breadth than are the ones that come on board the Summit.  But keep in mind, any waveshape conceivable may be loaded, or draw,n into the Summit via the Components editor.  The editor is not hard to learn, though I know you don't like a computer in your setup, you might find Novation computer interface for updates or this editor refreshingly easy.

In summary, I will let you know what else I discover, but  in your assessments, you should not fret too much if you can get the sound you want from the Summit.  I think most any sound would be achievable.  It really comes down to if you would like the ergonomics.  The build and knobs feel solid. But what I mean more is like how the menus operate.  I'm very picky about that factor and my brain is sort of rooted in the DSI lay out.  For example.  I have a DM12.  Nice sounding, but things just seem random placed in the menus when you go to program it, though its easy enough to tweek for playing live.    On the flip side, the Hydrasynth layout is amazingly intuitive, and that's saying a lot for a complex synth too.    I would rank Summit somewhere in the middle ground in intuitive.  But if this was your main instrument, everything may become second nature within a matter of weeks. 
Sequential/DSI Equipment: Poly Evolver Keyboard, Evolver desktop,   Pro-2, Pro-3, OB6, P-12,

Sacred Synthesis

Re: Strange issue: osc1 intermittently "appearing" on voice 4
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2021, 11:16:32 AM »

My main use for a Summit would not be to produce analog pads.  The Prophet '08s/(Rev2s) will handle all string and brass sounds just fine.  The Summit would be my only digital/hybrid instrument, and would be used primarily for evolving digital pads.  One concern is with the quality of the filter, and specifically, with filter sweeps.  I'm amazed at the criticisms I've read online about the Poly Evolver's filter, because I find it magnificently rich and creamy.  This is what I dread losing in replacing it with a Summit, as well as the select digital waveshapes that I so often use. Perhaps I could adapt to a new set of digital waveshapes, even though I'll lose my precious choir patch.  But as for the filter sweeps and evolving digital pads - well, that would be the whole purpose of the instrument in my set up.  In these departments the Summit must be strong.
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Re: Strange issue: osc1 intermittently "appearing" on voice 4
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2021, 07:30:41 AM »
Got it.    There are some specific voice type wave shapes that are good choir starters.   I actually imported my own voice shape via the editor saying Ahhh.  It's pretty convincing human voice. 

Ironically, my favorite part, I forgot to mention that I think filter(s) are really nice on Summit.  There are post and pre filter drive, sort of like the drive you get on the P12.   I find myself using a touch of post drive quite a bit.    The ability to split filter between paths in HP/LP/BP is really a strong point.   You can find a bunch of different sounds from the same patch, all a completely different feel, just by using subtle adjustment with hundreds of incremental possible settings.   For example,  I took some of the on-board pads and made them more to my liking just with abandoning the default LP and switching to the multimode filter.
Sequential/DSI Equipment: Poly Evolver Keyboard, Evolver desktop,   Pro-2, Pro-3, OB6, P-12,