Now we need a new Pro One etc

[Sacred Synthesis]

The happiest outcome for me is that I don't think I would prefer a Prophet-6 to a P'08 or a PEK.  I really don't, and I've been thinking this for some time.  This helps me get over the P-6, which is financially much appreciated.

[Shaw]

The happiest outcome for me is that I don't think I would prefer a Prophet-6 to a P'08 or a PEK.  I really don't, and I've been thinking this for some time.  This helps me get over the P-6, which is financially much appreciated.

And the Po-2 is a grand lighter on the wallet....

[Paul Dither]

And that the Pro-2 is as capable of lush sounds as it's newer, more analogue cousin....

You mean the Pro 2 is lusher than the Prophet-6?

Since it's a 4 OSC (+ Sub) synth, and if we're talking mono sounds, then yes.   lusher.

Okay, well I would maybe call that bigger. But that's the problem with all of these descriptions. They mean something entirely different to everybody.

[Sacred Synthesis]

My next question would be, What is the OS status of the Pro 2?  I thought I had read that another update was forthcoming.  Is there need for another update?  Are there any serious bugs remaining, or is this instrument a polished and completed product?

[Paul Dither]

My next question would be, What is the OS status of the Pro 2?  I thought I had read that another update was forthcoming.  Is there need for another update.  Are there any serious bugs remaining?

The next one would be more of a feature update - features that had been taken into consideration by DSI themselves:

1. Linear FM, which depends on the left over processor power
2. Paraphonic sequencer operation
3. Alternative tunings

Those are the things I can remember from memory.

[Shaw]

We would have gotten more input if this thread were listed under "Pro-2" instead of "Prophet 6"

[Paul Dither]

We would have gotten more input if this thread were listed under "Pro-2" instead of "Prophet 6"

Sacred Synthesis would have to do that, since I'm no moderator of this subforum. In only own a Prophet-6. 

[Hector Space]

Interesting comparisons Paul, even more interesting comments on them. For my part, from your recordings I can hear why I bought a P6. For my ears there's a warmth to its sound even when set up like this. This simple warmth/smoothness is exactly why I chose it over the P8. My heart is happy even if my pocket isn't!!
I will accept the triangle wave isn't right on the P6, but the P6 filter can easily be used to smooth this 'feature'.
I was a little surprised by the aliasing noise on the second sawtooth of your second set of (mono oscillator) recordings. Can this really be the P6? I will have to check.

[Paul Dither]

I was a little surprised by the aliasing noise on the second sawtooth of your second set of (mono oscillator) recordings. Can this really be the P6? I will have to check.

The second take of each example is definitely the Prophet-6, yes.

[Paul Dither]

I will accept the triangle wave isn't right on the P6, but the P6 filter can easily be used to smooth this 'feature'.

Well, it's definitely buzzier. The triangle part becomes a bit more pronounced once the filter is opened further, but it will still have a bit of sawtooth flavor to it. Maybe that's because of the variable waveshape design, dunno.

[Robot Heart]

What is the OS status of the Pro 2?  I thought I had read that another update was forthcoming.

A Pro 2 update is still forthcoming, we'll be working on it after we finish the Tempest update so you can use that as a gauge.

I was a little surprised by the aliasing noise on the second sawtooth of your second set of (mono oscillator) recordings. Can this really be the P6?

If it was the P6, aliasing doesn't happen with analog oscillators. A sampled data system would be necessary to produce aliasing, so this is a property exclusive to digital audio.

[chysn]

I caught up on this thread too late to get involved in the Prophet/Pro-2 guessing game (thanks, Paul, for doing that). I'll just say that I couldn't have made more than a semi-random guess. That they're so close augurs against the prospect of a Sequential VCO monosynth.

Good news: That means that DSI is working on something really interesting. Maybe we'll see their Prophet 6 filter in a euro module.

[Sacred Synthesis]

I don't want to spoil the party here, but the most striking thing to me was not that the Pro 2 sounded so good.  In my opinion, it really didn't.  What struck me was how poor the Prophet-6 sounded.  I don't know what to make of it.  Anyway, it's just one more bit of information to add to the mountain of tidbits that goes into a decision.

[blewis]

There will never be a Pro 2 Module. 

Why not?

and no Pro 2 module (which would totally undermine its concept).

Why?

Maybe if I want to be taken seriously I need to properly learn photoshop?

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGWZuqDGnMNyT;F330EF6C-09A4-420D-9FDD-E8C96B993265

[Paul Dither]

Hm, now your post is gone, blewis. Yes it was private, but I made sure to share the private link. I unlocked it just in case, so here it is in public format: https://soundcloud.com/pauldither/p6-pro2-single-osc-comparison

[Paul Dither]

and no Pro 2 module (which would totally undermine its concept).

Why?

Maybe if I want to be taken seriously I need to properly learn photoshop?

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XGWZuqDGnMNyT;F330EF6C-09A4-420D-9FDD-E8C96B993265

Ha! No, the reason I think so is because in my view the Pro 2 has been conceptualized as a powerful hybrid synth and a sort of all-in-one modular setup and whatnot controller. You could maybe take away the keyboard, but if you take away the rest of the controllers it completely loses its hands-on appeal. And I doubt that just cutting off the keyboard would justify a new production run.

I also don't think that the desktop module market is the most attractive one at the moment.

[blewis]

A Pro 2 update is still forthcoming, we'll be working on it after we finish the Tempest update so you can use that as a gauge.

Double awesome!

[blewis]

Hm, now your post is gone, blewis. Yes it was private, but I made sure to share the private link. I unlocked it just in case, so here it is in public format: https://soundcloud.com/pauldither/p6-pro2-single-osc-comparison

I switched from my laptop to UAD card and, surprise, the media system on my Mac quietly crashed... again.  So I had to reboot to make it play. It's a common and annoying occurrence for me.

Thanks for the follow up and thanks for the demo!

[Sacred Synthesis]

We would have gotten more input if this thread were listed under "Pro-2" instead of "Prophet 6"

Sacred Synthesis would have to do that, since I'm not moderator of this subforum. I only own a Prophet-6. 

We're too deep into this exchange by now, so there's no sense in moving the thread.  Besides, it did come out of the Pro One/Prophet-6 discussion.

I would say DSI made me moderator of this subforum because they were certain I'd go for the Prophet-6.  I was, too.  I haven't given up on it, though.

For now, I'm just letting the dust of this thread settle; I haven't made any sort of decision for or against an instrument.  In my opinion, they're all excellent; it's just difficult to choose which ones are best for one's own circumstances.  For mine, the P'08 and PEK are still supreme.  Hence, I'd hate to make an imprudent decision based on idiotic GAS that I would soon regret.  In fact, just last night I was happily daydreaming about my original plan to have an all-Evolver set up.  I could still be very happy with such an arrangement. 

I like very much the sound of the first generation of DSI synthesizers.  I don't think I'm alone in this preference.  The Curtiss filter sound - the one that gets so much criticism online - serves me perfectly well and really appeals to my ear.  In fact, I spent almost two hours this morning working on warming up my PEK's sawtooth solo patch, and found that placing it in the good old 2-pole filter setting does give it a slightly less nasal character, and adding one oscillator of sawtooth-triangle gives it (obviously) a slightly mellower and darker quality.  I've barely touched the potential of my current instruments, even regarding the fairly basic synthesis that I use, so that I've hardly got a good excuse to move on to something new.

[Paul Dither]

the media system on my Mac quietly crashed... again.

Boo!