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New Sequential Patent - Take 5

New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« on: June 01, 2021, 06:30:41 AM »
Saw this earlier on GS

https://uspto.report/TM/90726508

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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2021, 06:37:44 AM »
I do not even have a guess what a "Take 5" could be...
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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2021, 07:45:45 AM »
I do not even have a guess what a "Take 5" could be...

Possibly a looper/sequencer, at least thats the first thing that jumped into my mind.
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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2021, 08:08:22 AM »
Now I'm disappointed that Talkin Ball never came to fruition

https://uspto.report/TM/88374998

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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2021, 11:01:31 AM »
Saw this earlier on GS

https://uspto.report/TM/90726508

Obviously the long awaited multitimbral kazoo featuring a 5 step sequencer.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2021, 11:25:42 AM »
Seriously hope it's a dedicated sequencer.


But Dave said the next two instruments will be Analog so....I have no idea how that would work.

Surly it wouldn't be an analog synth called the Take 5.....unless it's a 5 part multitimbral monster synth.

In either case it best have a picture of Dave Brubeck on the front panel.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2021, 11:37:08 AM »
Saw this earlier on GS

https://uspto.report/TM/90726508

Obviously the long awaited multitimbral kazoo featuring a 5 step sequencer.

Now that's just inaccurate, Paul.  It's not the kazoo that is multitimbral, but the fact that you can fit several different models in your mouth all at once, thus producing a broad and varied sonic range of layered kazoo richness.
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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2021, 12:03:19 PM »
It's the REV 5 called the Prophet 5 REV 5 TAKE 5.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2021, 12:35:35 PM »
a broad sonic range of layered kazoo richness

I like the sound of that.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2021, 09:17:43 AM »
Seriously hope it's a dedicated sequencer.


But Dave said the next two instruments will be Analog so....I have no idea how that would work.

Surly it wouldn't be an analog synth called the Take 5.....unless it's a 5 part multitimbral monster synth.

In either case it best have a picture of Dave Brubeck on the front panel.

Well, I mean PEK was only 4 voice.  I eventually added a 5th voice via polychain which made it more useable.   But yes, in this day and age just 5 voice poly would seem unlikely.
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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2021, 09:59:59 AM »
Seriously hope it's a dedicated sequencer.


But Dave said the next two instruments will be Analog so....I have no idea how that would work.

Surly it wouldn't be an analog synth called the Take 5.....unless it's a 5 part multitimbral monster synth.

In either case it best have a picture of Dave Brubeck on the front panel.

Well, I mean PEK was only 4 voice.  I eventually added a 5th voice via polychain which made it more useable.   But yes, in this day and age just 5 voice poly would seem unlikely.

Unless it's 5 part multitimbral. That was my suggestion for a "Pro 4" idea. Essentially 4 AS-1 mono synths that can each have it's own sound, sequence, effect etc.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2021, 11:38:19 PM »
How about this? Perhaps it’s a 5-vector morphing synth.

X-Y plane has four parts; if you add the Z axis, that gives 5. Perhaps with a controller similar to the Polybrute’s Morphée to access all five parts (as opposed to the 4-way joystick of the Prophet VS).

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2021, 05:13:51 AM »
How about this? Perhaps it’s a 5-vector morphing synth.

X-Y plane has four parts; if you add the Z axis, that gives 5. Perhaps with a controller similar to the Polybrute’s Morphée to access all five parts (as opposed to the 4-way joystick of the Prophet VS).

Possible. Paul Dither made a design with a touch pad once.

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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2021, 02:23:08 PM »
Hmmm ... something to do with Dave Brubeck and rhythm ...

Sounds like a new drum machine to me.

5 different synthesis type? Subtractive + Wavetable + Physical Modelling + FM + Sample?

Or some new modal synthesis technology (modal synthesis ~ modal jazz)?

Just my speculation  :P
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Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2021, 06:52:09 AM »
Hmmm ... something to do with Dave Brubeck and rhythm ...

Sounds like a new drum machine to me.

5 different synthesis type? Subtractive + Wavetable + Physical Modelling + FM + Sample?

Or some new modal synthesis technology (modal synthesis ~ modal jazz)?

Just my speculation  :P

Dave said the next two instruments are analog....so unless they are going to do a completely analog drum machine (which I think would be a misstep as I think everyone has moved on to different forms of synthesis) I can't see it happening.

Roger Linn also said he thinks Dave is done with dabbling in drum machines because of the fiasco with the Tempest.

But I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of a 5 different forms of synthesis in a drum machine, I just hope that it has multiple midi channel outputs.

Dave once teased the idea of the Prophet X sample technology being put into a drum machine but Pym said it would be an absolute nightmare to implement in terms of multitimbrality.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2021, 08:21:41 AM »
Info from Abtmusic & Dutch Synthforum:

https://www.synthforum.nl/threads/3808999/

https://www.abtmusic.eu/sequential-take-5-synth/



Take 5 specs :

OSCILLATORS

Two analog VCOs per voice
Continuously variable wave shape (sine, sawtooth, variable-width pulse) per oscillator
Hard sync: oscillator 1 syncs to oscillator 2
Square wave sub-octave generator (oscillator 1) per voice
Keyboard tracking on/off for each oscillator
Front-panel FM (frequency modulation)

MIXER

Oscillator 1 amount
Oscillator 1 sub-octave amount
Oscillator 2 amount
White noise amount

LOW-PASS FILTER

Four-pole, resonant, analog low-pass filter per voice, based on Prophet 5 Rev 4 design
Filter can be driven into self-oscillation with the Resonance control
Bi-polar filter envelope amount

ENVELOPES

Two 5-stage envelope generators (ADSR + delay) with variable routing (filter, amplifier, gate)
Velocity modulation of each envelope amount
Envelopes freely assignable to multiple modulation destinations

LOW FREQUENCY OSCILLATOR

Five wave shapes: triangle, sawtooth, reverse sawtooth, square, and random (sample and hold)
Clock sync (internal or external MIDI clock)
Freely assignable to multiple modulation destinations

DIGITAL EFFECTS

One dedicated reverb with damping, pre-delay, decay and tone
One multi-effect with stereo delay, BBD Delay, tape delay, chorus, flanger, phaser, ring mod, vintage rotating speaker, distortion, high-pass filter
Dedicated Overdrive effect

VINTAGE KNOB

Recreates the characteristics of vintage synthesizers by introducing micro-fluctuations in oscillators, filter, and envelopes per voice.

AFTERTOUCH

Source: channel (mono) aftertouch with bi-polar amount
Aftertouch freely assignable to multiple modulation destinations

CLOCK

Master clock with tap tempo
BPM control and display
MIDI clock sync

ARPEGGIATOR

Up, down, up+down, random, assign modes
Syncs to MIDI clock
Re-latching arpeggiation

SEQUENCER

Polyphonic step sequencer with up to 64 steps with ties and rests

PERFORMANCE CONTROLS

Full-sized, semi-weighted, 3.5-octave premium Fatar keyboard with velocity and aftertouch
Spring-loaded pitch wheel with selectable range per program with independently adjustable upper and lower pitch wheel range transpose controls
Low-split mode creates two independent performance zones with different octave ranges
Hold switch latches held notes on
Polyphonic glide (portamento)
Unison (monophonic) mode with configurable voice count, from one to all five voices, and key modes
Factory switch: when off, the front panel is live; what you see is what you hear

PATCH MEMORY

128 user and 128 factory

IN/OUT

1 MIDI In, 1 MIDI Out, and 1 MIDI Thru port
USB port for bidirectional MIDI communication
1 Sustain/footswitch input
1 Expression pedal input
Main stereo output (2 x 1/4″ phone jack)
Headphone out (stereo 1/4″ phone jack)

POWER

IEC AC power inlet for internal power supply
Operates worldwide on voltages between 100 and 240 volts at 50 to 60 Hz; 14 watts maximum power consumption

PHYSICAL SPECS

Premium, 3.5-octave, semi-weighted Fatar keyboard
25″ L x 12.75″ W x 4.4″ H (63.5 cm x 32.4 cm x 11.2 cm)
Weight: 17 lbs (7.7 kg)

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2021, 08:54:23 AM »
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But....


Why?

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2021, 09:36:45 AM »
So it's a Prophet 6....but with one less voice and half an octave missing. Mmkay.

I do appreciate the idea of a lower tier analog poly synth from Sequential. I've been pushing for a MophoX4 successor....maybe this is it?

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2021, 10:28:22 AM »
You know.....on second thought, I understand it. It's more a successor to the MophoX4 than a Poly Pro 3 or modern Prophet 5 or whatever. It's a stripped down, basic, lower tier analog poly synth.  It's more for people who are primarily playing another instrument and just want a basic analog poly synth next to them to play a few chords. Nothing elaborate or expensive.

Re: New Sequential Patent - Take 5
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2021, 11:36:49 AM »
Specs say ”based on the P5 filter”; I wonder if it’ll have a resonance compensation option.