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Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?

Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« on: May 18, 2020, 02:05:59 AM »
Hello

The OB-6 can't display patch names but it does have them, they're in the patch data. They'd have to be after all or the various patch editors and librarians wouldn't have any names to display!

Do you miss being able to see the patch names on the unit or even being able to edit them?

I like patch names. They can inspire and it's more meaningful to write down "Broken EP, great e.piano" rather than "507, great e.piano".

Anyone? Or do you not care? Or is having names in an editor sufficient? Personally I don't use editors much.

Jim

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2020, 04:40:26 AM »
I do not miss the display of the names. The Minitaur doesn't even have a display but I love it all the same too. MidiOx lets you add and change names. It's free and probably the best sysex tool out there for PC users.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2020, 05:32:08 AM »
A lack of page names certainly isn't a dealbreaker but I like them

The reason I ask is, I did this fun little project over the weekend!

Using an Arduino to display Sequential/DSI OB-6 patch names

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V71R6dMcoU


Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2020, 06:29:01 AM »
Thatís cool. Is it something youíll be sharing or making commercially available? Is there a way to extend the project so that you could edit the names on the Arduino itself rather than having to use a librarian?

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2020, 06:37:20 AM »
Thatís cool. Is it something youíll be sharing or making commercially available? Is there a way to extend the project so that you could edit the names on the Arduino itself rather than having to use a librarian?

Potentially yes to all that but very early days. Just a proof of concept right now. Memory is incredibly limited on an Arduino which presents challenges for editing (but I'd like to be able to do that) but they're super easy to mass produce.You can actually roll your own Arduino with about 5 components!

Just canvassing interest at the moment.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2020, 08:00:01 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYcBrYvZEhY&t=10s

LFE showing patch names and categories

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2020, 08:04:36 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYcBrYvZEhY&t=10s

LFE showing patch names and categories

Yes the LFE's awesome! I know of your work :)  Expensive solution though if you _just_ want the patch part of it.

What's its brain? Something more than a stock ATMega328 I assume.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2020, 08:59:57 AM »
It would be nice to see patch names on the device. Neither of my hardware synths shows patch names (OB-6 & SE-02). However, being desktop modules, my computer is always on and I have 2 editors for each synth that display the names.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2020, 09:08:47 AM »
Categories are vastly more important to me than patch names.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2020, 10:57:48 AM »
Categories are vastly more important to me than patch names.

Yes I'd like to implement that too. Category names aren't stored in the patch just a value representing a category. Presumably those indentified in the official Sequential editor are regarded by Sequential as the 'official' ones. I don't know if there's any other 'standard' amongst manufacturers.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2020, 01:46:22 PM »
The LFE's brain is a Teensy 3.6, which is more powerful than it needs!  It's core is an ARM  Cortex M4 running at 180 MHz.

kris

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2020, 01:49:27 PM »
Categories are vastly more important to me than patch names.
Which is why the Knobkraft Orm brings you both Patch Names and Categories (with Color Index) for the OB-6, couldn't agree more.

Currently it's a Windows/Linux software (free! OpenSource!), but Mac support is coming and my end goal is to have this running as a touch tablet app bolted to my keyboard rack, to control all synths:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPoFOVpTANM

Check out the free Rev2 and OB-6 and Sysex Librarian https://github.com/christofmuc/KnobKraft-orm
DSI Prophet Rev 2 (16) - DSI OB-6 - Korg DW 8000 - Oberheim Matrix 1000 - Kawai K3M - Access Virus B - Roland MKS 80 - Behringer Model D

pfrf

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2020, 09:30:30 AM »
That software looks fantastic!  I hope you are successful porting it to Mac.  Good luck with your project, and thank you.

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2020, 12:35:50 AM »
Very cool Sir!

A lack of page names certainly isn't a dealbreaker but I like them

The reason I ask is, I did this fun little project over the weekend!

Using an Arduino to display Sequential/DSI OB-6 patch names

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V71R6dMcoU

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2020, 01:13:38 PM »
I don't miss seeing them, a lot of the time when saving a patch I don't know what words to use to describe it and I'll give some random name just to move on.  Saving to a location is pretty straightforward so long as I set a PC message to recall it for a given project. 

Re: Do you miss patch names on your OB-6?
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2020, 10:58:39 PM »
Yes, I think they should have used a simple dot matrix display instead of just a giant numeric LED. Even a tiny display like the one on the Arturia MicroFreak is quite usable and so much nicer than trying to memorize hundreds of numbers.

My guess is they omitted the display for aesthetic reasons, perhaps to distinguish the Prophet-6 (on which the OB-6 is based) from the Prophet 08, so people wouldn't assume it's basically another version of the same thing.