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Simple -but important- feature request: envelope retriggering (always)

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Simple -but important- feature request: envelope retriggering (always)

I would like to ask for a feature request that's been hindering a lot of things I'm trying to do on the Pro3:

On for example the Sub37, you can set an envelope to always retrigger from the start, whenever you press a note. This is very handy for when example you try to play a slow, soft melody with a long attack time.

As it is now the envelopes react like with voice stealing, causing a sharp attack spike for every legato played note. Very annoying, I have to adapt my playing style and use reverb and delay to compensate for the untied notes.

You could put it as an extra option in the misc params: on (which is the current) off (no retrig), and all (always)

This would really benefit the range of this synth, and it seems like a quite easy fix!

jg666

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Doesnít the Key Modes tab give you this? I donít have a Pro3 but have a Pro2 and on that you can set the key mode to LastR for example which would mean Last Note priority Retrigger.
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I havenít looked for it on my Pro 3 yet but Iím certain there is a Key mode option on it as there is one on my Rev2
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Doesnít the Key Modes tab give you this? I donít have a Pro3 but have a Pro2 and on that you can set the key mode to LastR for example which would mean Last Note priority Retrigger.
There's a difference between retriggering and resetting the envelope. The Pro 3 retriggers it, as do most vintage synths. What W07 is asking for is actually resetting.

Resetting the envelope nulls out the current envelope state and starts the envelope from the null whereas retriggering starts the envelope relative to where the envelope currently is. For example if you have a long attack and reset the envelope it will close the envelope and start the long attack again. If you have the same long attack and retrigger the envelope the attack amount is added to the current state and you won't hear the envelope restart. Both are useful so having the options is helpful.

jg666

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Doesnít the Key Modes tab give you this? I donít have a Pro3 but have a Pro2 and on that you can set the key mode to LastR for example which would mean Last Note priority Retrigger.
There's a difference between retriggering and resetting the envelope. The Pro 3 retriggers it, as do most vintage synths. What W07 is asking for is actually resetting.

Resetting the envelope nulls out the current envelope state and starts the envelope from the null whereas retriggering starts the envelope relative to where the envelope currently is. For example if you have a long attack and reset the envelope it will close the envelope and start the long attack again. If you have the same long attack and retrigger the envelope the attack amount is added to the current state and you won't hear the envelope restart. Both are useful so having the options is helpful.

Thanks for the explanation and apologies to the orignal poster for my misunderstanding :)
DSI Prophet Rev2, DSI Pro 2, Moog Sub37, Korg Minilogue, Yamaha MOXF6, Yamaha MODX6

+1 for this request.

Useful in a variety of different sound design scenarios.


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+1. Just ran into this limitation, as well.

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Re: Simple -but important- feature request: envelope retriggering (always)
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2020, 04:25:38 PM »
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