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Feature Request: Local Keyboard Control Off (for use as a master Keyboard)

Hi,

I want to use my prophet 6 as master keyboard.
For that reason I set 'local control' to off and 'midi control' to on and connected the P6 to my DAW with MIDI.
Depending on the Settings in the DAW I can play every other Instrument with the P6 keyboard.
But regardless how I configure the P6, there is always something not working:
'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' set to 'nr': unfortunetely not all DAWs support NRPN messages, which means the control knobs on the P6 have no effect when playing the P6
'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' set to 'CC': not all knobs on the P6 produce CC messages. The knobs which do not produce (e.g. the LFO Pots) have no effect

It would be great if 'local control' would offer a third option called 'Just knobs'. Then I could set 'Param Xmit' to off and 'local control' to 'Just knobs', which would have the effect that just the keyboard data is sent to the DAW and the knobs control alwas the P6 regardless of the DAW settings.

Another option would be (maybe that is the better one)
When 'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' are both set to 'off' the knobs and pots control the P6 regardless off the  'local control' setting.
This would be also be non breaking, because currently setting 'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' to 'off' makes the knobs useless if 'local control'  is also set to off. Which makes no sense.

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Gerhard

Hi,

I want to use my prophet 6 as master keyboard.
For that reason I set 'local control' to off and 'midi control' to on and connected the P6 to my DAW with MIDI.
Depending on the Settings in the DAW I can play every other Instrument with the P6 keyboard.
But regardless how I configure the P6, there is always something not working:
'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' set to 'nr': unfortunetely not all DAWs support NRPN messages, which means the control knobs on the P6 have no effect when playing the P6
'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' set to 'CC': not all knobs on the P6 produce CC messages. The knobs which do not produce (e.g. the LFO Pots) have no effect

It would be great if 'local control' would offer a third option called 'Just knobs'. Then I could set 'Param Xmit' to off and 'local control' to 'Just knobs', which would have the effect that just the keyboard data is sent to the DAW and the knobs control alwas the P6 regardless of the DAW settings.

Another option would be (maybe that is the better one)
When 'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' are both set to 'off' the knobs and pots control the P6 regardless off the  'local control' setting.
This would be also be non breaking, because currently setting 'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' to 'off' makes the knobs useless if 'local control'  is also set to off. Which makes no sense.

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Gerhard

I second this although I'm far from the second. I think hundreds of us have realized this limitation across a few of the modern DSI boxes.

I love my P6 and I want it to be the heart of my setup, in the middle of my desk. This issue makes it very hard for me to use it as a master keyboard controller.


It would be great if 'local control' would offer a third option called 'Just knobs'. Then I could set 'Param Xmit' to off and 'local control' to 'Just knobs', which would have the effect that just the keyboard data is sent to the DAW and the knobs control alwas the P6 regardless of the DAW settings.

Another option would be (maybe that is the better one)
When 'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' are both set to 'off' the knobs and pots control the P6 regardless off the  'local control' setting.
This would be also be non breaking, because currently setting 'Param Xmit' and 'Param Rcv' to 'off' makes the knobs useless if 'local control'  is also set to off. Which makes no sense.

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Gerhard

Is there any chance that such a small feature, which would enhance the P6 to be able to act as a "master keyboard", will ever get implemented ?

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Gerhard

+1 for that request

I also would like to be able to specify a different midi in and out channel. Background is: I use an Elektron Digitone as the sequencer for my P6 and get double notes while recording.

Local control just does not work, because I have to use the midi out port of the Elektron device and it seems that the messages needed to still control the P6 are not transmitted through the mdi out, only on the midi through port of the Elektron device.

On a nord stage I can specify the midi out channel (called external instrument) and it works just fine.
Andre.
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I have been trying to use the P6 as master controller with various rack mount synths like the JD-990 for a long time now and I've recently given up.

I use an iConnectivity Mio10 to route all my MIDI synths and the various clock and MIDI in out problems and audio dropouts of the P6 mean I have just removed it from the chain and record it with the analog outs only now. I can use the arpeggiator and not have the endless headaches of turning local control or the clock on or off. It's old school but frustrating as I often like to edit the midi performance.

I now use my Korg Kronos as the main MIDI controller and I haven't had an issue yet with it.

The P6 is a great synth but the MIDI and clock implementation is absolutely terrible.

+1 for that request

I also would like to be able to specify a different midi in and out channel. Background is: I use an Elektron Digitone as the sequencer for my P6 and get double notes while recording.

Local control just does not work, because I have to use the midi out port of the Elektron device and it seems that the messages needed to still control the P6 are not transmitted through the mdi out, only on the midi through port of the Elektron device.

On a nord stage I can specify the midi out channel (called external instrument) and it works just fine.
Andre.

gonna bump this, as a function like this would make the P6 perfect for me. cheers!

Bump - this function is a must-have!

Re: Feature Request: Local Keyboard Control Off (for use as a master Keyboard)
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2020, 11:07:36 AM »
Wow,
 Im glad I dropped into this thread! I was just about to buy a Prophet 6 with the idea if it being the perfect master midi keyboard for me. This has me thinking twice.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2020, 11:09:50 AM by Fuenstock »