Warning for Kronos owners with a Rev2!

psionic11 · « **on:** May 21, 2019, 12:29:58 PM »

Beware using a DSI Rev2 when connected to your Kronos!

If you press both the SPLIT and STACK buttons at the same time on the Rev2, it will send out a string of random commands that will instantly scramble and write over several of your Kronos combis!

In other words, one simple 2-button combo on the REV2 affected over a half dozen of my combis by changing some random timbres to EXi INITs.

Worse, it hard saved all those changes instantly.

Reboots didn't fix anything, and I tested it again. There go hours of changes!
I'm pretty upset. I haven't backed up my Kronos in a couple months, so I've got to put in lots of hours to fix this. ](*,)

At least this didn't happen right before a gig, I've got about a week to sort it all.

psionic11 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2019, 09:30:18 PM »

Luckily a 2 month old backup on my Kronos made getting it back to gig-ready status pretty quick.

Good to know that a Kronos strength overcame a Rev2 bug...

jok3r · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2019, 11:12:20 PM »

Wow. Thanks for the warning. I create a lot of layered patches for panning them hard left and right, so I typically start working on one layer and then copy it to the other with that combo. I did the programming on the Rev2 alone and wanted to integrate the new sounds to my live setup tomorrow, which also contains a Kronos. So that could have happend to me also.

I have some questions:

* Do you exactly know what kind of MIDI messages get send to the Kronos? Sounds like some SysEx stuff?
* Do you know which Combi Banks get erased?
* Did you try to reproduce the error? Do this messages get send everytime?

Luckily I don't have the Kronos and Rev2 connected directly. They are both connected to a mio10 MIDI router and I hope I can just filter all kind of sysex messages that go from Rev2 to Kronos with that device. So it would be nice to know what exactly happens. Perhaps I can try this myself tomorrow or open a MIDI monitor on my laptop tonight.

Thanks for the hard reminder to backup my Kronos (and everything else, too).

psionic11 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:20:23 AM »

I use a Mio4 to connect the Kronos, Rev2, Stage 2, and Integra. At the time there was also a USB cable from the Mio to my PC.

Yesterday when I discovered something was off with some of my combis, I traced back my steps. I did the SPLIT|STACK procedure again and saw it change my combis. At first I thought it was random changes, but after spending time correcting a few of the combis, I noticed only the timbres on channels 2 and 3 were affected. They were set to various EXi INIT programs, User BB 009 being the most common one. I run my Rev2 exclusively in Split mode, with ch2 dedicated to bass synth and ch3 for my analog poly needs.

I figured I better capture some MIDI output via MIDI-OX so I can have data to report to Sequential support. But it seems I cannot reproduce the issue. Rev2 has parameter send off, multimode on, program change receive only, and SYSEX cable assigned to USB. Perhaps the issue had something to do with the Mio4, or maybe a MIDI loop somewhere.

Either way, I'm glad I had a backup. I don't want to spend too much time trying to reproduce the issue, as I still have to fix all the other combis yet to get ready for next week's show. Lesson learned is to backup backup backup backup. Kronos has hardly any space limitations, so why not?

Razmo · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:28:19 AM »

REV2 does not send out any SysEx on button presses, only NRPN... the only place to initiale anything with SysEx is from the Global menu, when sending dumps... so if Kronos is f****** up something inside it, because of NRPNs, then the bug is at the Kronos side of things... NRPNs is something all synths should be able to handle.

Problem might rather be, that since NRPN is not exclusive to a certain synth device, but a standard adapted by all devices using them, what might have happened is that an NRPN that the REV2 sends out, is translated by the Kronos into something else that change some things in the Kronos... if both synths are using the same NRPN number, but for different things, you would expect this kind of behavior if they are on the same MIDI port (another good reason to always have a single MIDI I/O port for each and every synth you've got).

This is not a bug in either REV2 or Kronos... it just happens that both interpret the same NRPN messages differently...

Just my guess..

jok3r · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:29:34 AM »

Ok... then I will just be very, very careful and do a backup before working on my setup. Just to be sure. Thank you all very much.

Razmo · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:49:06 AM »

Point is that most modern synths these days, control all of their parameters via CCs and NRPNs, even stuff in the global settings and other stuff... usually every single parameter can be remote controlled via MIDI using these NRPN messages.

Problem is that these NRPNs are simply a number (0-16383) and a value (0-16384)... if one synth use NRPN number 100 for say; oscillator level, and another use the same number for say; cutoff frequency, then you can understand why one synth might behave strangely, if the other send out it's NRPN message.

Manufacturers decide what the NRPNs control when they design the synth, but there are no standards... so if two synths are connected to the same MIDI port, you're bound to end up with strange behaviors, if one is sending NRPNs and the other is receiving them too (NRPNS and CCs are channel dependant though, so if they each reside on their own MIDI channel, it should not pose a problem... maybe the KRONOS has it's receive channel set to "ALL" or something like that?).

That is actually why it's better to use SysEx for this because SysEx is device depandant... in the SysEx message, there are information about the manufacturer, the device etc... that way you can be certain that a SysEx message will ONLY be recognised by another device that is EXACTLY the same as the one sending the SysEx message.

NRPNs and CCs do not have this... so the receiver cannot know what send them, it can only act on the number, and if two devices use the same NRPN number, things start to screw up.

Razmo · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2019, 08:55:16 AM »

I just tested my REV2 module... it does not send out any MIDI information when I press Split and Stack together...

jok3r · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2019, 09:36:06 AM »

Well... workstations behave in the way, that every layer inside can react to a user defined midi channel... at least in a Combi mode like on the Kronos. You just need this, to play some timbres with external keyboards, if you want to play a multikeyboard setup but want to have only one sound engine. In this case it's also good that there are CCs (or NRPNs) send on this specific channel, so you can map your controllers to the Kronos-parameters for some minor live tweaking.

So in fact there are cases in which a synth must react to different channels at one time and it makes absolutely sense. But overriding patches in banks that are not even active should be something that must not be done with NRPNs or CCs. It would be very awful if Korg had implemented it this way, knowing that their synth is basically 16 synth in one. So there shouldn't be any global things (like writing banks) mapped to NRPNs that get interpreted in every single layer.

Quote from: Razmo on May 22, 2019, 08:55:16 AM

I just tested my REV2 module... it does not send out any MIDI information when I press Split and Stack together...

That's very good to hear. So we can guess that psionic's accident was at least not the Rev2's fault.

psionic11 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2019, 11:34:24 AM »

MIDI-Ox does not show any data when I pressed SPLIT|STACK and write.

Nonetheless, my Kronos was affected across several combis in the current Set List I was in. All these combis had changes only to timbres on MIDI channels 2 and 3... the same channels the Rev2 is on. Not to mention yesterday I witnessed the change in real time as I pressed SPLIT|STACK.

I am puzzled why the issue is not reproducible today. But like I said, I'm not going to lose sleep over trying to figure out why it happened, but just instead make sure I back up more regularly, lol.

Razmo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2019, 01:10:35 PM »

Quote from: psionic11 on May 22, 2019, 11:34:24 AM

MIDI-Ox does not show any data when I pressed SPLIT|STACK and write.

Nonetheless, my Kronos was affected across several combis in the current Set List I was in. All these combis had changes only to timbres on MIDI channels 2 and 3... the same channels the Rev2 is on. Not to mention yesterday I witnessed the change in real time as I pressed SPLIT|STACK.

I am puzzled why the issue is not reproducible today. But like I said, I'm not going to lose sleep over trying to figure out why it happened, but just instead make sure I back up more regularly, lol.

I used a MIDI monitor to check what the REV2 was sending and got nothing... this may happen in a MIDI monitor, if it is coded to not show MIDI errors for example... i have no clue if my MIDI monitor does this... you would have to be using a MIDI monitor that you are 100% certain show everything that comes in, also if faulty MIDI data is coming in... this COULD be what the REV2 does, i do not know... but normally any MIDI receiving machine should be capable of ignoring MIDI errors... so this problem you're having can be a bit tricky to solve...

psionic11 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2019, 05:54:32 PM »

On the Rev2 I enabled MIDI Parameter Send and finally did get data in MIDI OX.

I thought I had this setting off by default, but it could've been on at the time.

Razmo · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2019, 11:13:12 PM »

Quote from: psionic11 on May 22, 2019, 05:54:32 PM

On the Rev2 I enabled MIDI Parameter Send and finally did get data in MIDI OX.

I thought I had this setting off by default, but it could've been on at the time.

What was the data you got? ... if you can take a screen shot of it, I can see what it is... this may be something that only the keyboard version does, because my module does not... I got messages (NRPN) from a lot of other button presses, and knobs, but not anything from pressing stack and split together at all... unless my MIDI monitor do not show corrupt MIDI data that is.

psionic11 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2019, 11:55:25 PM »

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psionic11 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2019, 11:56:02 PM »

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psionic11 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 22, 2019, 11:56:15 PM »

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0000627D 1 2 B2 26 7F 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
0000627D 1 3 B2 26 7F 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
0000627E 1 2 B2 63 12 3 --- CC: NRPN MSB
0000627E 1 3 B2 63 12 3 --- CC: NRPN MSB
0000627F 1 2 B2 62 02 3 --- CC: NRPN LSB
0000627F 1 3 B2 62 02 3 --- CC: NRPN LSB
00006280 1 2 B2 06 00 3 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00006280 1 3 B2 06 00 3 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00006281 1 2 B2 26 61 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
00006281 1 3 B2 26 61 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
00006282 1 2 B2 63 12 3 --- CC: NRPN MSB
00006282 1 3 B2 63 12 3 --- CC: NRPN MSB
00006283 1 2 B2 62 0D 3 --- CC: NRPN LSB
00006283 1 3 B2 62 0D 3 --- CC: NRPN LSB
00006284 1 2 B2 06 00 3 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00006284 1 3 B2 06 00 3 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00006285 1 2 B2 26 42 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
00006285 1 3 B2 26 42 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
00006286 1 2 B2 63 12 3 --- CC: NRPN MSB
00006286 1 3 B2 63 12 3 --- CC: NRPN MSB
00006287 1 2 B2 62 0F 3 --- CC: NRPN LSB
00006287 1 3 B2 62 0F 3 --- CC: NRPN LSB
00006288 1 2 B2 06 00 3 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00006288 1 3 B2 06 00 3 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00006289 1 2 B2 26 73 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB
00006289 1 3 B2 26 73 3 --- CC: Data Entry LSB

Razmo · « **Reply #16 on:** May 23, 2019, 02:31:48 AM »

Is this data constantly being received? ... if yes, then your problem is certainly a MIDI loop ... such a thing may fuck up a receiver... if it's only that which you have written here, and it stops after all that, it's weird... it's the same NRPN it is sending again and again i can see...

Razmo · « **Reply #17 on:** May 23, 2019, 02:43:27 AM »

can you explain exactly how your synths and DAW are hooked up together? ... I bet it has to do with your sequencer/DAW echoing MIDI back to your devices... I assume that your REV2 is connected to your sequencer/DAW both ways via MIDI in and out? ... this is the most common setup so that you can choose what synth to play directly from the DAW/sequencer... in this case you have all synths but the MIDI master controller set to Local Off...

This was what I did with my old Keyboard REV2... but I remember that I did run into a MIDI loop problem once with this setup... it was when I pressed something on the REV2, and the REV2 then send out an NRPN message to my DAW... this is normal... but when the DAW sent (echoed) the NRPN message back to the REV2 as it should, then the REV2 took that incoming NRPN MIDI message, and sent it out of it's MIDI out again... this of course resulted in a seriously fast MIDI feedback loop problem. This MAY be what you're experiencing perhaps...

This (if the case) is a REV2 bug... a synth should never echo incoming MIDI messages, only interpret them and act on them... I also think that I told Sequential about this back then, but I seriously do not remember if it was fixed, or even put on the list of bugs... you should probably hear Sequential directly.

Razmo · « **Reply #18 on:** May 23, 2019, 02:54:29 AM »

another thing to notice on your write-outs is that something strange is going on regarding the port and channel... most messages are coming in on channel 2 ... but there are also stuff arriving on channel 1.... this is the same with the MIDI port... there are things happening on both port 2 and 3... it looks pretty scrambled... like a feedback MIDI loop of some kind.

psionic11 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 23, 2019, 08:10:25 AM »

That output is from a single button combo SPLIT|STACK write (to copy layer A to B).

I only use split mode on my Rev2, ch2 for bass and ch3 for analog poly, so that's why you're seeing those channels in the output above. No DAW or computer, this is my gig rig. I only connected to my computer in order to use MIDI OX to capture the data.

The issue hasn't happened again, even when I tried to make it happen. I have a backup from March I can reload into the Kronos. I still need to make changes to get the Set List current. I'm going to focus on that first before I try to chase down what caused it in the first place. Thx for taking a look.