With the p08 I cant seem to get any of the knobs to respond to my Basic 128 patch?? I use the misc knobs to assign parameters or use the destination knob in the evelope but nothing ever happens lol. I would then go to the VCA section and try to increase the delay of the basic saw tooth but still the most I get is just subtle differences.
is the P8 known to have a learning curve compared to other synths? I'm probably just a newb still i guess. wish it was easy like OMNISPHERE is lol.
I, as Sacred Synthesis, am slighty confused if your P08 is broken or if you are just trying the wrong knobs.
Omnisphere is in a way similar when it comes to the main synthesism but also much more complicated and "complete" with more processing and advanced stuff like fm, ringmod and effects. I'd say the Prophet is easier when it comes to having direct knob access to traditional subtractive synthesism. I mean, its not very hard, 2 osc, a lowpass filter and a vca. Thats it. There are no effects, no fm, no ringmod.
Now, with that said... if you don't get what knob to turn to make a sound have a slower attack, or what you need to do to add a permanent slow vibrato to a noicier sound then you need to understand the basics of subtractive synthesism. I'm sure Omnisphere gives more direct gratification when you select a between very different samples wave shapes. So it's for sure different instruments.
If you are after drastic effects, the P08 will dissapoint you compared to Omnesphere, its just NOT a good allround EDM-synth with extreme effects.
That delay knob on the vca section, if you for example already have a slow attack, the delay will only appear to make it slower, not drastic change. Its not a"Delay FX" if you thought that. Its the time setting before the attack of the VCA envelope will start.
The P08 doesn't have hundreds of wave shapes, it has got triangle, saw and pulse width, thats it.
My suggestion:
1. While holding down the Program button, press the Yes-button. You will then get a basic saw patch.
2. Turn the Cut off filter knob to sweep the filter, that should make a difference to the sound, darker or brighter.
3. Then start changing the OSC 1 shape to explore those shapes, the pulse width will be the most "changing" sound while turning the knob. If you turn it all the way to the left it will turn Off and you have disabled the OSC1. Set it back to a Saw.
4. Try changing the attack and the realease of the envelope in the vca section. You should hear slower attacks and longer realeses.
If that works for you, then nothing is broken, knobs work. You have just operated the basic Osc-> Filter -> VCA without any modulation. Congrats!
If that works and you feel "meh, that's it?!" Then I don't know what to tell you. The Prophet 08 is not Omnisphere. Not even the Prophet 12 is Omnisphere. You will have to add distortion, flanger and other effects outside of the P08. Most likely in your DAW with software effect plugins.
Can the prophet sound different than that basic saw patch? Absolutely! Digging into the lfo, the modulation and sequenser section you will start to understand the depth of the Prophet 08. But you need to grasp subtractive synthesism before you understand what types of sounds it can do.