Tempest + synth + sampler (advice needed)

Tempest + synth + sampler (advice needed)
« on: September 30, 2018, 08:50:34 AM »
Hello everyone!
I've been thinking about upgrading my live setup (Tempest controlling a Mopho X4) with a sampler. I've never owned one and I want to know if any of the options I am looking at is corresponding with my needs.

My Tempest holds complex projects: there are moments when I have to push the STOP button and hit PLAY (risky!), some beats have weird scales and lengths which are (as far as I am concerned) not compatible with some of the simpler sampler models out there. And within a project I switch between beats all the time. And some beats are stuffed up so I can't use the Mopho because I'm out of voices on the Tempest. Now what do I need?

1) To trigger certain SOUNDS (and/or PATTERNS) in a sampler in time with the Tempest;
2) In certain situations (within a project) I would like to trigger DIFFERENT sounds or patterns in a sampler with a different beat coming from the Tempest;
3) To let the sampler control the Mopho to free up Tempest's voices and to be able to play the Mopho polyphonically;
4) To be able to trigger samples manually by just hitting the buttons (that would be simple I guess).

As far as I am concerned the only option in my case is to control the sampler via the Tempest. Or am I wrong? If I'm wrong, then how does the workflow look when the sampler is controlling the Tempest? Can I hit PLAY on the sampler and trigger the PLAY button on the Tempest? If this is possible then wouldn't it be a hassle to switch scenes/beats both on the sampler AND on the Tempest? And sometimes during like a second before stopping the sequence and hitting PLAY again! Phew.

I know the Octatrack is a very good device but it is expensive for me. So I am looking at Digitakt (1st candidate) or Korg Electribe Sampler or Roland 404. The sampler of course has to be able to record sounds or import them via memory card / USB.

It's a lot of questioning but I know little about MIDI stuff so any help is much appreciated!
Thank you.

P.S. I certainly wouldn't want to use a laptop :)
« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 08:54:19 AM by yerimbetov »


Re: Tempest + synth + sampler (advice needed)
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2018, 12:48:14 PM »
Look no further...
http://www.akaipro.com/products/mpc-series/mpc-live

Thank you! I know about this device, it seems like an amazing unit but it's as expensive as the Octatrack! If not more expensive. I'm looking for something cheaper..

Re: Tempest + synth + sampler (advice needed)
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2018, 01:03:04 PM »
Check eBay you’ll find it around 800€..I wouldn’t go for a Digitakt cause it’s a Mono sampler and also not the Korg Electribe cause i heard some edge click problem cases or..
You can try the Roland approach with the SP404A as you mentioned (https://www.roland.com/global/products/sp-404a/) or this:
https://www.boss.info/global/products/rc-505/
« Last Edit: September 30, 2018, 01:27:45 PM by Yorgos Arabatzis »

Re: Tempest + synth + sampler (advice needed)
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2018, 02:27:28 PM »
Not cheap either, but awesome...

https://synthstrom.com/product/deluge/

More sampling features coming in next firmware - killer hardware sequencer which will do both CV and MIDI, very decent onboard synth engine, truly portable...
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Re: Tempest + synth + sampler (advice needed)
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2018, 07:31:02 PM »
A used Roland MV 8000 can be had for 300-400 bucks.