The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #120 on: November 01, 2018, 02:55:03 AM »
New program called "Starchild"
I'm deeply impressed by any of the previous presented patches and I don't want to comment every single one of them but in this case I must do it  8): This Starchild is really amazing and inspiring. Indeed, despite some firmware issues which could and should be optimized, the REV2 is VERY useful! Thanks for showing us the possibilities. Especially for me as synth beginner it helps a lot!  :)

Yep... there are a few issues i have as well, but I'd say that the most bad issues have been fixed by now, so it is an impressive synth... the more you dig, the more you find out it can do... I have to admit that i never thought myself, that I'd ged these timbres out of it, even without external FX... and I feel there are seriously many other possibilities I've not even dealt with yet... I'm beginning to wonder what I could do with a Prophet 12 and Prophet X... some day I'll find out :)

Regarding "Starchild" I can hear this morning that the "stars" are probably a bit too present, especially when the modulations are slow in the beginning, so I'll have a little experiment with some volume changes in the randomization of these... many times, I hear the imperfections after a good nights sleep :)
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #121 on: November 01, 2018, 08:42:12 AM »
many times, I hear the imperfections after a good nights sleep :)

I know what you mean, working a long time at the same stuff makes us kind of "blind" and after having a bit distance you will see some things clearer.
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #122 on: November 01, 2018, 10:18:38 AM »
I wouldn't alter it... sound amazing!!   I really like the glassy pings in beginning.   Just wondering, are your modulations for realtime control mapped to footpedal parameter or breath?    I've got a bank I've been working on, about half way full, but I've been using "breath" (cc2) as my main source for morphing sounds.  Have been maxing out the mod matrix on many patches.. I'm sure you've hit the wall on many of these as well.

Regarding "Starchild" I can hear this morning that the "stars" are probably a bit too present, especially when the modulations are slow in the beginning, so I'll have a little experiment with some volume changes in the randomization of these... many times, I hear the imperfections after a good nights sleep :)
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #123 on: November 01, 2018, 12:32:21 PM »
I wouldn't alter it... sound amazing!!   I really like the glassy pings in beginning.   Just wondering, are your modulations for realtime control mapped to footpedal parameter or breath?    I've got a bank I've been working on, about half way full, but I've been using "breath" (cc2) as my main source for morphing sounds.  Have been maxing out the mod matrix on many patches.. I'm sure you've hit the wall on many of these as well.

Regarding "Starchild" I can hear this morning that the "stars" are probably a bit too present, especially when the modulations are slow in the beginning, so I'll have a little experiment with some volume changes in the randomization of these... many times, I hear the imperfections after a good nights sleep :)

I do not have a breath controller at the moment... I wanted to make the bank usable to as many as possible, so I'm controlling ONE modulation with both modwheel and footpedal... i just prefer the footpedal because it will free my hands to play the sound polyphonically...

I just did some change to the sound (the link above has been overwritten with a new version), but I still have the old one stored, just in case I may regret changing it... the new one is slightly more playable for melodic lines, where the other one was more of a wall of sound smearing... but both can be useful, so I might just include them both... I'll see about that later :)

The mod slots being used up? oh yes... plenty a time... this is actually why i asked SCI to make the pedal assignment also go to ModWheel, so that I am free from having to use twice the amount of slots to route my ONE modulation to both ModWheel and FootPedal... but they did not really seem to care much about my request so I'll just have to live with what is I guess :)
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #124 on: November 01, 2018, 01:19:18 PM »
@razmo, that’s a beautiful patch.

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #125 on: November 01, 2018, 03:39:10 PM »
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/WarbleMadness.mp3

New ambient pad... "Warble Madness".

This one is a derivative of "StarChild"... a weird warbling thing with a lot of motion goin' on and definitely something for something spacy. May need a little touch up, but my ears are exhausted for today, so I'll figure that out tomorrow.

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #126 on: November 02, 2018, 01:02:35 PM »
Time for some Dark Space Ambient tones... this one is 100% REV2 and called "Dead Space" :)

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/DeadSpace.mp3
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #127 on: November 03, 2018, 04:13:55 AM »
Time for some Dark Space Ambient tones... this one is 100% REV2 and called "Dead Space" :)

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/DeadSpace.mp3

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #128 on: November 03, 2018, 08:47:20 AM »
Time for some Dark Space Ambient tones... this one is 100% REV2 and called "Dead Space" :)

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/DeadSpace.mp3

Sounds great - like a massive dirty space freighter passing by.

On a clip like that, how much are you 'playing it' vs letting the modulation take its course?

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #129 on: November 03, 2018, 09:42:00 AM »
Time for some Dark Space Ambient tones... this one is 100% REV2 and called "Dead Space" :)

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/DeadSpace.mp3

Sounds amazing, felt like I was back on the USG Ishimura for a while there :)
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #130 on: November 04, 2018, 01:27:30 AM »
Time for some Dark Space Ambient tones... this one is 100% REV2 and called "Dead Space" :)

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/DeadSpace.mp3

Sounds great - like a massive dirty space freighter passing by.

On a clip like that, how much are you 'playing it' vs letting the modulation take its course?

This program sounds different depending on what keys you press so i am holding some random chords and also transposing the keybord a few times... In addition, the modwheel/pedal control the intensity of the static noise element that i modulate during the playing... The rest is done by the synth engine... Most longterm evolvings on my programs are done by playing and modulation from wheel/pedal :)
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #131 on: November 05, 2018, 07:47:30 AM »
A weird sound FX made today... not perfectly satisfied with it, but it's closing in :) ... inspiration came from my stomach, so no pictures (lucky you).

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/Cauldron.mp3
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #132 on: November 07, 2018, 01:17:53 AM »
Time for some Dark Space Ambient tones... this one is 100% REV2 and called "Dead Space" :)

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/DeadSpace.mp3

Yeah, that is lovely.  It's reminiscent of so many sounds from prog rock songs with massive build ups (I'm hearing a lot of Yes in there), but it doesn't sound like anything specifically.

It's just lush.

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #133 on: November 07, 2018, 06:02:34 AM »
A weird sound FX made today... not perfectly satisfied with it, but it's closing in :) ... inspiration came from my stomach, so no pictures (lucky you).

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/Cauldron.mp3

The above demo of some bubbles have been updated... a little external reverb added because the Hipass filter is used on both layer FX to create this sound, so no possibility of using the REV2's own reverb unfortunately... sometimes I wish the REV2 had two FX per layer like the Prophet X.
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #134 on: November 07, 2018, 10:01:46 AM »
This one is rather hard to get right... the sound of a Thunderclap... but I think I'm getting closer... still a tad bit too "white noisy" in the attack, but I'm pretty satisfied with the decay... a few touch ups more, and i hope it's there :)

No external FX, just the REV2...

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/Thunderclap.mp3
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #135 on: November 07, 2018, 03:35:19 PM »
http://razmo.ziphoid.com/InfernalChoir.mp3

Another try at some choir sounds... :)
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #136 on: November 07, 2018, 04:14:25 PM »
That's the best choir patch I've heard from the Rev2.  It sounds like a combination of two patches.  How is it that they merge and separate at different times?  Modulation wheel?  Keyboard pressure?

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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #137 on: November 07, 2018, 04:24:01 PM »
That's the best choir patch I've heard from the Rev2.  It sounds like a combination of two patches.  How is it that they merge and separate at different times?  Modulation wheel?  Keyboard pressure?

It's actually just a single layer... and as always with synths that have no way to control formants, the bass notes get more and more dull, sounding more like a kind of ensemble... but that seems to work well as a blend in... maybe that is what you can hear as "crossfade" (I think).

If it's the loud parts that are more staccato, then it's simply a matter of modulation via velocity... the more velocity, the more I open the filter, and also let in some sub oscillator to fatten it up (sounding a bit like if the males in the choir raise their voices)... also more vibrato is introduced as velocity goes up.

But the trick that gives this sort of "formant timbre" is in fact the build in reverb... it's actually 100% wet to be able to achieve this, and this is also why the sound is a bit "smeared" and "dark"... and also why the choir seems a bit more set in the background...

It's not perfect... and it never will be on an analog synthesizer unless SCI introduce a formant filter of some kind... on a per voice basis... but with other sounds playing at the same time, the imperfections is easier to hide, and the way it sounds also lets it sit well in the background not being too obtrusive... so the limitations can also have their advantage :)

hope that clarifies a bit... creating this patch required serious minute tweaks to A LOT of parameters to sound "just right"... it involves both resonance, audio mod, reverb and a lot of other things including parameters that require change according to key position...
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #138 on: November 08, 2018, 01:57:41 PM »
Alright... a new program from today: Little Mermaid :)

Again we have 100% REV2... no external FX

This was program number 80... 48 to go...

http://razmo.ziphoid.com/LittleMermaid.mp3
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Re: The REV2 is a deep and VERY capable synth
« Reply #139 on: November 09, 2018, 04:15:40 AM »
Wow, Razmo, your patches are really beautiful. I just got my Rev2, and these surely inspire me. I hope I'll be at that level of sound design at one point! Keep up the good work, it's really an inspiration, and thanks for sharing your knowledge. Best from Germany.