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Re: Moog One
« Reply #160 on: August 13, 2019, 02:58:47 PM »
I only got to play the One at Superbooth, which was under less than ideal conditions – lots of noise around and about 10 guys waiting in line behind me. At first sight, I found the UI more overwhelming than I would have thought before. That and the situation didn't quite put me in a relaxed mood to start messing around with sound design from scratch. So I only went through some presets and tweaked a few parameters here and there. I wasn't exactly blown away and there was something about the sonic character I didn't particularly like. Hard to describe really, but I found it a bit too "compressed midrangey." I then went over to the Matriarch and got lost in it immediately for half an hour. In terms of sound and fun I'd choose the Matriarch over the One at any time. On the other hand, such a comparison doesn't make much sense. But I could easily see the One being too much for me. There was one synth in a similar price range whose sound impressed me a lot more than that of the One, though: the River.

Yes! The River sounds absolutely incredible as does The Matriach.

Wow...just wow...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taOKrFoOd_I
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #161 on: August 13, 2019, 04:25:29 PM »
The River certainly sounds nice, but having to send it to France if it needed repairs would be a nightmare.


In case you missed some more recent (and better) One demos...


https://youtu.be/ptCQLhxdBgg


https://youtu.be/4qO-DWLIIV4
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #162 on: August 13, 2019, 04:39:09 PM »
Yeah, I'd take a Moog One over The River and Matriarch combined any day.

Re: Moog One
« Reply #163 on: August 13, 2019, 05:21:30 PM »
The River certainly sounds nice, but having to send it to France if it needed repairs would be a nightmare.

Sure, I understand that. Laurent seems to be very reliable, but the prospect of having to send the instrument across the pond just in case is not very appealing. FWIW: I'm also no potential River buyer, as it would be too expensive for me and not add anything substantially new or different to my arsenal. I just thought it sounded nice, that's all.

In case you missed some more recent (and better) One demos...

These are indeed some more promising demos and I've watched snippets of these before. Like I've written above: I checked it out under less than ideal conditions, so I'm still careful with my overall assessment. At that moment, though, I didn't quite connect with the One's sound or rather the sound of the patches I've skimmed through – big difference, I know. I'm sure it can be a sound designer's dream and I'll have another go at it once it hits more stores.
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #164 on: August 14, 2019, 02:34:08 AM »
Honestly... to my ears, those last demoes certainly sound good, but I can also hear that the main strength if compared to say; a REV2 is that it's FX engine is a hell of a lot better than the REV2's ... I've been stating quite often, that Sequential should start rethinking their FX engine in their synths... more parameters, better quality and flexibility in the available parameters... A REV2 with that FX engine (the ONE FX engine) would boost the REV2 to new heights, and might easily threaten the ONE a lot more in that case.... yes yes, it's "the MOOG sound"... and yes, the ladder filters is preferable to the Curtis, but in my humble opinion, that depend on what you actually want to use a poly synth for... if it's booming basses, then yes... ONE will kick REV2 butt, but when it comes to pads and that stuff, I'm not so sure anymore because that generally comes down to the flexibility of the engine as well, a department that MOOG (until now) has not been giving it's users very much off...

If the ONE was in module form, and about half the price, I may be tempted to get one, otherwise the money would be much better spend on other synths, and I'd choose a QUANTUM over ONE any day for ambient polysynth duties... For those users that just want the MOOG sound and a poly, sure... this is it... but for someone who wants a very deep engine polysynth with lots of sonic variation capabilities, my opinion is that there are lots of other way cheaper solutions that will give you the same flexibility...
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #165 on: August 14, 2019, 05:15:11 PM »
Honestly... to my ears, those last demoes certainly sound good, but I can also hear that the main strength if compared to say; a REV2 is that it's FX engine is a hell of a lot better than the REV2's ... I've been stating quite often, that Sequential should start rethinking their FX engine in their synths... more parameters, better quality and flexibility in the available parameters... A REV2 with that FX engine (the ONE FX engine) would boost the REV2 to new heights, and might easily threaten the ONE a lot more in that case.... yes yes, it's "the MOOG sound"... and yes, the ladder filters is preferable to the Curtis, but in my humble opinion, that depend on what you actually want to use a poly synth for... if it's booming basses, then yes... ONE will kick REV2 butt, but when it comes to pads and that stuff, I'm not so sure anymore because that generally comes down to the flexibility of the engine as well, a department that MOOG (until now) has not been giving it's users very much off...

If the ONE was in module form, and about half the price, I may be tempted to get one, otherwise the money would be much better spend on other synths, and I'd choose a QUANTUM over ONE any day for ambient polysynth duties... For those users that just want the MOOG sound and a poly, sure... this is it... but for someone who wants a very deep engine polysynth with lots of sonic variation capabilities, my opinion is that there are lots of other way cheaper solutions that will give you the same flexibility...

It would be a very interesting experiment to do some recordings of a 16 voice REV2 or Prologue and run them through an Eventide H9 pedal and label it as "Moog One recordings?" and see if anyone could actually tell they weren't authentic.
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #166 on: August 15, 2019, 04:56:10 AM »
Honestly... to my ears, those last demoes certainly sound good, but I can also hear that the main strength if compared to say; a REV2 is that it's FX engine is a hell of a lot better than the REV2's ... I've been stating quite often, that Sequential should start rethinking their FX engine in their synths... more parameters, better quality and flexibility in the available parameters... A REV2 with that FX engine (the ONE FX engine) would boost the REV2 to new heights, and might easily threaten the ONE a lot more in that case.... yes yes, it's "the MOOG sound"... and yes, the ladder filters is preferable to the Curtis, but in my humble opinion, that depend on what you actually want to use a poly synth for... if it's booming basses, then yes... ONE will kick REV2 butt, but when it comes to pads and that stuff, I'm not so sure anymore because that generally comes down to the flexibility of the engine as well, a department that MOOG (until now) has not been giving it's users very much off...

If the ONE was in module form, and about half the price, I may be tempted to get one, otherwise the money would be much better spend on other synths, and I'd choose a QUANTUM over ONE any day for ambient polysynth duties... For those users that just want the MOOG sound and a poly, sure... this is it... but for someone who wants a very deep engine polysynth with lots of sonic variation capabilities, my opinion is that there are lots of other way cheaper solutions that will give you the same flexibility...

It would be a very interesting experiment to do some recordings of a 16 voice REV2 or Prologue and run them through an Eventide H9 pedal and label it as "Moog One recordings?" and see if anyone could actually tell they weren't authentic.

Aside from the ability to add a suboscillator, there are a few things that one can do with a third VCO that might definitely stand out in a demo (as well as things required to keep 48 VCOs happy in terms of stability and gain staging).

There is a polished "big-ness" of The One that reminds me of the Memorymoog, and suggests the Andromeda, which in the right hands could be put to excellent effect (Eventide processing notwithstanding). But the River strikes me as a chaotic handful of snakes that doesn't want to be managed, and might require a bit more processing to fit into a mix (but would certainly be fun to "workshop" on).
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #167 on: August 15, 2019, 11:29:44 AM »
I now have a One. It and the Quantum have been my main synths lately, as most of my energy has been going into sound design on them. The thing that bugged me on all the demos is that they immediately use one of the more unique features: the blend between the saw/tri and pulse core oscillators. Unfortunately, unless you're careful, it ends up just sounding like doubled octaves, and so every patch gets this harpsichord/organ vibe in which it's tough to tell the difference between the fundamental and the first harmonic. Finally I heard some of Jamie Morden's patches on it, as well as Mr. Firechild's piece with it, and I realized it had a lot more range than the default patches gave it credit for. (Jamie was contracted by Moog to produce a set of classic sounds which are available for registered owners free now.) So that convinced me to pull the trigger.

In some ways it reminds me a lot of the Prophet 12, but with better sounding oscillators for the traditional waves. The voicing is intentionally thin in some areas to get it to sit in a mix better than the Memorymoog did (so they claim, I've never had a MemoryMoog). But with three oscillators, the effects, and all the modulation sources, it's easy to thicken it up. So you can do traditional Moog (or Oberheim or Polysix or...) sounds, including a nice ring mod and sync controls. FM, too, but it's harder to control. It reminds me the most of the Prophet 12 in that there are so many performance options as well as neat tricks you can do--the X/Y pressure pad does a lot of what the two ribbons on the 12 do. The two filters take some work to get to know, but because the multimode 12db filter is actually also a dual filter with separable peaks and configurable in parallel or in series, you can actually get triple-filter sounds. That makes a lot of the standard filter sweep sounds a lot more interesting and subtle. Because the voice is complex, I rarely ever make layered sounds (this was true on the 12 as well).

It is more chameleonlike than the River or Deckard's Dream, but there are some definite Moog One-ish sounds, often involving the dual filter and mixed oscillators. But it can also double as a generic analog poly with some funky extras, as well. It does pair well with the Quantum, and I think it would with the PolyEvolver, because it has a complimentary character.

The damn thing will strain your back, though.
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #168 on: October 04, 2019, 05:46:54 AM »
Two videos that start to influence my initial negative opinion about this synth. One by the keyboard player of Jamiroquai, Matt Johnson, one by Katsunori Ujiie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQeWIWnkNOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOvc2txzXY

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Re: Moog One
« Reply #169 on: October 04, 2019, 05:57:20 AM »
Two videos that start to influence my initial negative opinion about this synth. One by the keyboard player of Jamiroquai, Matt Johnson, one by Katsunori Ujiie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQeWIWnkNOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmOvc2txzXY
Sit with one for a while... you’re negative opinion might change quicker.
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #170 on: October 04, 2019, 02:27:19 PM »
Katsunori Ujiie could sell me any synth. He can make anything sound good and he's a keyboard player out of hell. I don't make my decisions by musictrackjp demos, because they don't represent what an average player like me could do with an instrument.  ;)
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #171 on: October 08, 2019, 03:03:46 PM »
Katsunori Ujiie could sell me any synth. He can make anything sound good and he's a keyboard player out of hell. I don't make my decisions by musictrackjp demos, because they don't represent what an average player like me could do with an instrument.  ;)

Lisa Bella Donna is in that category for me, as well. She has amazing chops, a deeply musical sensibility, and better sound design skills than I have. I might catch up some day in the sound design department, but I'm never going to get close in the other two at this age.
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #172 on: October 08, 2019, 10:24:07 PM »
I think she's really good too, I met her at Moogfest two years ago.
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Re: Moog One
« Reply #173 on: November 11, 2019, 06:10:53 AM »
The “intro” video.

https://youtu.be/irlptRTpmMk

Had had a One to myself for 30 mins or so. One day.... 8)

Re: Moog One
« Reply #174 on: November 13, 2019, 04:22:16 PM »
Always love Nick's sound design choices and this is the best I've heard out of the synth. Ah, now I want One... Sounds incredible.

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Re: Moog One
« Reply #175 on: November 21, 2019, 01:27:59 AM »
There's a long review from Loopop who always does great reviews in my opinion :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=314JyJX6xdU

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