Trying to create funk stab

[discorules]

Hi,

I'm trying to create a kind of 70s funk stab in my Rev2, something similar to the patch this guy created in the below video. Somehow even using similar controls, i can't achieve it. Could someone that likes to create patches (and sure is better than me in this task), try to make this on the Rev2 ? I think it would sound fantastic in an analog synth (the video uses a VST plugin). Thanks 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJMx3kUwM34

[jdt9517]

It's pretty straight forward and I can get pretty close with my P-08.  So, I assume the Rev. 2 can do it too.  Basics of the patch: Osc 1 Sawtooth Wave.  Osc 2 Square wave one octave higher than the saw.  I add a little pulse width modulation with LFO#2, triangle wave, destination PW Osc 2, speed about 89 on the P-08. Increase amount to taste.

Detune the oscs so that there is a little chorusing taking place.  Does not require a lot.

Set the Envelope on the VCA so there is a medium fast attack, full sustain and no release.  The VCA is not an important part of this patch, so the envelope is set to get the VCA out of the way.

LP filter set to 4 pole. 

The filter envelope is set with a medium fast attack (about 1/8 second), medium delay, no sustain and no release. 

Set the LP Filter so that without the envelope, there will be just a rumbling of the undertones when a key is played.   

Increase the envelope amount until the filter opens up a pleasing amount of harmonics when depressing the keys.

Adjust the Resonance until it gives off a wah-wah sound when the key is depressed.  There will be some fine tuning of the LP Filter, Resonance, and amount of envelope to get a stab that's pleasing to you.   

The warbling sound is LFO in a triangle, set to a speed of about 70 modifying the pitch of oscs 1 and 2.  The mod wheel adjusts the intensity.

On the solo bits, add some sustain to the VCF envelope.  That way the note will extend out while you are playing the longer notes.   

Hope this helps!

[Gerry Havinga]

It's pretty straight forward and I can get pretty close with my P-08.  So, I assume the Rev. 2 can do it too.  Basics of the patch: Osc 1 Sawtooth Wave.  Osc 2 Square wave one octave higher than the saw.  I add a little pulse width modulation with LFO#2, triangle wave, destination PW Osc 2, speed about 89 on the P-08. Increase amount to taste.

Detune the oscs so that there is a little chorusing taking place.  Does not require a lot.

Set the Envelope on the VCA so there is a medium fast attack, full sustain and no release.  The VCA is not an important part of this patch, so the envelope is set to get the VCA out of the way.

LP filter set to 4 pole. 

The filter envelope is set with a medium fast attack (about 1/8 second), medium delay, no sustain and no release. 

Set the LP Filter so that without the envelope, there will be just a rumbling of the undertones when a key is played.   

Increase the envelope amount until the filter opens up a pleasing amount of harmonics when depressing the keys.

Adjust the Resonance until it gives off a wah-wah sound when the key is depressed.  There will be some fine tuning of the LP Filter, Resonance, and amount of envelope to get a stab that's pleasing to you.   

The warbling sound is LFO in a triangle, set to a speed of about 70 modifying the pitch of oscs 1 and 2.  The mod wheel adjusts the intensity.

On the solo bits, add some sustain to the VCF envelope.  That way the note will extend out while you are playing the longer notes.   

Hope this helps!

Don't forget to add a bit of chorus, if you are using the Rev2 

[discorules]

It's pretty straight forward and I can get pretty close with my P-08.  So, I assume the Rev. 2 can do it too.  Basics of the patch: Osc 1 Sawtooth Wave.  Osc 2 Square wave one octave higher than the saw.  I add a little pulse width modulation with LFO#2, triangle wave, destination PW Osc 2, speed about 89 on the P-08. Increase amount to taste.

Detune the oscs so that there is a little chorusing taking place.  Does not require a lot.

Set the Envelope on the VCA so there is a medium fast attack, full sustain and no release.  The VCA is not an important part of this patch, so the envelope is set to get the VCA out of the way.

LP filter set to 4 pole. 

The filter envelope is set with a medium fast attack (about 1/8 second), medium delay, no sustain and no release. 

Set the LP Filter so that without the envelope, there will be just a rumbling of the undertones when a key is played.   

Increase the envelope amount until the filter opens up a pleasing amount of harmonics when depressing the keys.

Adjust the Resonance until it gives off a wah-wah sound when the key is depressed.  There will be some fine tuning of the LP Filter, Resonance, and amount of envelope to get a stab that's pleasing to you.   

The warbling sound is LFO in a triangle, set to a speed of about 70 modifying the pitch of oscs 1 and 2.  The mod wheel adjusts the intensity.

On the solo bits, add some sustain to the VCF envelope.  That way the note will extend out while you are playing the longer notes.   

Hope this helps!

Thank you, with your help i could reach closer , here is a sample and the params i've used  :

https://ufile.io/pnwxn

The example on the video sounds more brighter but the guy is using some post fx. Any more hints to come closer ?

Thanks 

[jdt9517]

Glad you got it going!  Tried to download your music file but it didn't work.  You might want to try soundcloud.com  It's free, great platform.  Your music files stay in the cloud too.  So, there's no downloading.

Looking at your screen shot i have several observations. (What a wonderful tool!) The cutoff filter amount should be a little higher and the VCF envelope amount should be a little less.  (The cutoff filter needs to be increased until you get the necessary highs).   A little slower attack on the VCF and decay should be a little quicker.  On the VCA envelope, shorten the attack.  The attack on the VCF should be slower than the attack on the VCA.  You have it reversed. 

In adjusting the decay of the VCF envelope, start with an extremely short decay with the sustain at 0.  You will hear just a little bump.  Slowly increase the decay and you will get closer to amount of pop you want.  If you keep on increasing the decay it will go from a pop to a long splat (good for bells but not stabs).  Back it down until you hear the length of time desirable for the stab.  Remember, this sound requires a pop and not a splat. 

Part of the sound will be your playing style.  If you play the hits in a staccato manner, the pops will sound different than if you play it more legato.  So, part of the experiment is trying different playing styles until you get the desired sound. 

Hope that helps!

[shiihs]

I'm not a sound design specialist but it seemed like a fun assignment,
so I tried to make something as well. Maybe another starting point?

(edited to add: I used only layer A )