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And I wonder...
« on: July 08, 2017, 05:12:30 AM »
Have been messing with my old Sound Diver editor that I created a P12 adaption for, so that I can take advantage of all the space I get after purchasing a 4K monitor... and that made me wonder about something...

As all know, the P12 does NOT have a sequencer... it only has an Arpeggiator... if you use the P12 display for looking at the assigned notes of an arp, it only show those that are in the held chord, and you cannot have two notes that are the same (logically, since you cannot hold down a key more than once in a chord).

My wondering is, that in the MIDI SysEx data structure, there are actually space assigned for 32 notes... now that is a bit odd I think, unless of course someone play with their feet as well because I only have 10 fingers.

Why 32 slots? ... not even when you program these 32 slots with an editor I can see much use for 32 "steps" because if they were to be fully used, you would have the arpeggio to have 32 unique notes in it. The only reason I can see would be that it allow rests between the held chord notes...

I cannot help but speculate, that initially the P12 was meant to have had that Sequencer I REALLY miss on the P12... I wonder why it was dropped (polyphonic sequence too much?)...

Just some pure speculation here... I'll live without a sequencer, though it would have been nice to be able to modulate parameters from a sequenced pattern like on the Evolver/Prophet-8/Tetra/Mopho line.
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Re: And I wonder...
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2017, 09:36:29 AM »
Since the OS v1.2, there's a 32 steps sequencer on the P'12    :)

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Re: And I wonder...
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2017, 03:10:07 PM »
Since the OS v1.2, there's a 32 steps sequencer on the P'12    :)

Where do you have that information from? ... no, there is no sequencer in the Prophet 12, only an arpeggiator :)
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Re: And I wonder...
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2017, 03:19:29 PM »
- Press the "arp" button
- Go to "Arp misc"
- Put "Lock Note" on
- Go to "Edit Arp"

Ok ok, it's not the Pro-2's multitrack step sequencer :P

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Re: And I wonder...
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2017, 05:00:34 PM »
- Press the "arp" button
- Go to "Arp misc"
- Put "Lock Note" on
- Go to "Edit Arp"

Ok ok, it's not the Pro-2's multitrack step sequencer :P

Yes, but you cannot type in the same note twice, it will only play a note once... that is not a sequencer, it's just a programmed arpeggiator where you can insert rests... try it... :)
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Re: And I wonder...
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2017, 03:49:57 AM »
I know in the P12 software editor you can enter the same note more than once. Cant try on the P12 at the moment as it is in its box.

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Re: And I wonder...
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2017, 07:31:36 AM »
I know in the P12 software editor you can enter the same note more than once. Cant try on the P12 at the moment as it is in its box.

Yes, and you can enter the same note more than once on the display as well, but it will simply ignore any subsequent notes that has been given earlier in the list that are the same... as if it was a "rest"... it's also kind of logic since it is an arpeggiator... you cannot hold down the same key twice in a chord, it's just not possible... but I admit that I would LIKE that when the P12 is in locked mode, that it COULD play the notes in the sequence more than once, and that the ARP was available as a source in the matrix... that would at least give you a single global sequencer (which is another reason why it is like this... the ARP is global, it does not work on a per voice basis really, it actually switch voices).

Problem is that people obviously see the locked ARP's steps as "steps"... they are... in a sense, but not in a sequencer sense... they rather work as a "pool of unique notes" in a specific order, used for the Arpeggiator. A Rest simply works as if the note on the rest-step is not there... it does not play, it even does not play a silent space, it just takes the next valid unique note in the list...
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