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Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid

Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #80 on: June 26, 2018, 02:13:57 AM »
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.

You can sample and resample whatever you like with the Quantum. It just doesn't come with a typical sample library, that's all.

On their website...
“It’s worth noting that the sample use in the Quantum is always within a synthesizer's sonic context, and it is not meant to work as a “bread and butter” sample keyboard to play back like traditional sampling instruments nor third party libraries.”

I know. It's not meant to be a typical sample playback device for already existing sample collections (like KONTAKT for example), albeit shipped units will definitely contain samples (mono and stereo single and multi samples in WAV/AIFF format). Nevertheless, whatever recordings/samples you already have in those formats, can be imported into the Quantum via SD card. And you can sample whatever you like into it (via mic, phone, or whatever source) and edit, process, and manipulate it without any external tools, or resample sounds you did with the synth engines, or synthesize sample content as a new wavetable. So the whole idea is to be able to switch seemlessly between the different engines. So, for example, you can sample something with a mic, a phone, or a connected mixer and then process or use that sample either in the Particle Generator or Resonator engine. You can then sample your finished sound again and then have it analyzed in order to be used as a wavetable. And so on.

Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #81 on: June 26, 2018, 11:58:40 AM »
Most people want retro sounds, yet at the same time they want all the modern benefits that help streamline the workflow. You mention touchscreens and menu diving a lot even though good screens make life much easier and even allow for deeper features. DSI makes phenomenal sounding instruments no doubt, but they're way behind in certain areas. Perhaps people want three OLED screens for some reason, though there's certainly better ways to utilize the main OLED screen. My favorite example is, why would you have a thousand preset slots available and no on-board categories? But hey, I know the P12 at least shows the envelop visually, which is a start.

I certainly understand why people want them but they are also the reason I'm not drawn to the Montage or Quantum. I can't stand touch screens...even though most of my computers have them I often just use a mouse. I just think it defeats the whole purpose of an analog instrument and I'd much rather have no menu at all. That's just me though.

I guess DSI's philisophy is (rightly so in my opinion) is to get away from the computer and let your ears be your guide. If you want deeper editing you can use a software editor for said instrument.
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Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #82 on: June 26, 2018, 11:59:49 AM »
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.

You can sample and resample whatever you like with the Quantum. It just doesn't come with a typical sample library, that's all.

On their website...
“It’s worth noting that the sample use in the Quantum is always within a synthesizer's sonic context, and it is not meant to work as a “bread and butter” sample keyboard to play back like traditional sampling instruments nor third party libraries.”

I know. It's not meant to be a typical sample playback device for already existing sample collections (like KONTAKT for example), albeit shipped units will definitely contain samples (mono and stereo single and multi samples in WAV/AIFF format). Nevertheless, whatever recordings/samples you already have in those formats, can be imported into the Quantum via SD card. And you can sample whatever you like into it (via mic, phone, or whatever source) and edit, process, and manipulate it without any external tools, or resample sounds you did with the synth engines, or synthesize sample content as a new wavetable. So the whole idea is to be able to switch seemlessly between the different engines. So, for example, you can sample something with a mic, a phone, or a connected mixer and then process or use that sample either in the Particle Generator or Resonator engine. You can then sample your finished sound again and then have it analyzed in order to be used as a wavetable. And so on.

I figured just adding the onboard samples from the Blofeld Keyboard would have been a no brainer. Even just to showcase what you can do with said samples.
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Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #83 on: June 26, 2018, 12:44:34 PM »
I figured just adding the onboard samples from the Blofeld Keyboard would have been a no brainer. Even just to showcase what you can do with said samples.
Perhaps the samples are in a different format and they just didn't want to F with it?!?!? 
Makes sense that the samples might be in a different format if you're doing a different kind of synthesis (granular as opposed to just sample play back)...
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Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #84 on: June 26, 2018, 03:44:46 PM »
I just think it defeats the whole purpose of an analog instrument and I'd much rather have no menu at all.

Well if said technology is not utilized to its potential, then you might as well just use LED displays and panel switches.

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Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #85 on: June 26, 2018, 05:48:07 PM »
I don't understand how displays don't belong on analogue gear, but this is getting off topic.

Sampling synths that are worked around some massive pre-existing library, well they aren't really the sort of synth that Waldorf make for a start.  For some reason Waldorf seem to be the only ones who have stayed with the idea that samples don't have to be used for creating authentic replications of some other instrument.  Romplers exist already and E-Mu were doing amazing orchestras before Gigasampler was born and I seem to remember hearing an amazing piano on someone's new synth just recently, quite nearby to here in fact, I think even in the same building......

Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2018, 10:09:20 AM »
I just think it defeats the whole purpose of an analog instrument and I'd much rather have no menu at all.

Well if said technology is not utilized to its potential, then you might as well just use LED displays and panel switches.

Which I’d be fine with. It’s one of thr things I love about the P6 and OB6.
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Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
« Reply #87 on: February 11, 2019, 07:00:42 AM »
I finally got mine. I'm definitely in a honeymoon stage, and it's killed my GAS for right now. Overall I don't find the interface as intuitive as the P12, but the range of sounds is...wow. Gain staging is definitely important to watch, though.
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