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Next New DSI Instrument

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Re: Next New DSI Instrument
« Reply #920 on: May 20, 2019, 12:57:37 PM »
Unfortunately, these "rings" around the encoder only gives you an approximation ... a hint at where the value really is, which for me is not enough to be honest... each LED on the ring represents a range of numbers.

For encoders to work for me, I'd much rather have the value shown on a display, just the way the REV2 does it.

But we run into yet another problem because this will only do, if every parameter in a layer is represented with it's own encoder... if an encoder has more than one function in a layer the same problem arise, and also you would want every encoder to have it's function printed below it, otherwise it gets confusing again.

But we will not see encoders... Dave started out making encoder versions of both Evolver and Prophet 8 initially, but made a pot version available because users want real pots to tweak.

Also, many manufacturers have a history of having problems with their choice in encoders... they seem to start to skip values, jump around left and right and getting rather annoying.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2019, 12:59:23 PM by Razmo »
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Re: Next New DSI Instrument
« Reply #921 on: May 20, 2019, 03:33:04 PM »
Obviously the more LEDs the better (well at least up to 127), but all you need is an approximation. The main screen can show the exact increment once moved.
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Re: Next New DSI Instrument
« Reply #922 on: May 20, 2019, 03:47:55 PM »
Obviously the more LEDs the better, but all you need is an approximation. The main screen can show the exact increment once moved.

As long as the actual value is shown on a screen, it's fine... but in that case, the LED rings would actually (for me) be nothing but a bonus... I would not require them... the only bad thing about that is if you did not have the LED rings, you'd not know a parameters value until you actually turn the knob... this problem was solved on the Novation Mininova by making the encoders touch sensitive which is a nice way around that... though I've never seen any other synth using this technique.

But all in all, i found that for me, the easiest way to overcome all of these design methods is to simply make sure that the synths i buy has SysEx specs that allow me to create editors for them... I really do not care if my synths has knobs, encoder or none... i never (or rarely) touch my synths (except for my main keyboard controller)... i control them remotely.

If I ever will touch my synths, it will be while composing music... for doing some live tweaks, changing presets etc.... but for sound design duties, i always go for editors :) ... just my personal preference.
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Re: Next New DSI Instrument
« Reply #923 on: May 21, 2019, 01:34:06 PM »
It's just another cue that something with a digital front end is coming up... They are rewamping their digital lineup, except the X... I'm certain of it... Hope it will be an FPGA front end, and please... No monosynth!... I wonder if the P12 will remain in module form still...

Or it may be something completely unexpected. While we are all expecting a P12 successor, we might get an analog oscillator/digital oscillator hybrid OR a larger VCO based synth that isn’t Moog One style pricing. With the Super 6 And Novation Summit, Sequential might feel the market for digital front/analog back synths are satisfied. Dave has always been about leading the market or doing something no one else is doing. He might not see a point in bringing out a synth with wavetables, FM, FPGA oscillators now when people already have access to one at a decent price. Likely why he never brought out an analog mono synth when everyone else was.


If it's a hybrid like the Evolver, fine with me... as long as it's FPGA in the digital front end, has at least 8voice polyphony, is at least dual timbral and has internal FX.

ProphEvolver 16!  As long as it has many blue blinky lights I'm good.  Just not on the backside... what the heck was that?

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Re: Next New DSI Instrument
« Reply #924 on: June 02, 2019, 10:22:53 AM »
Its going to be awesome right?

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