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JUMP patch tutorial?

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2017, 02:28:40 PM »
I guess I'm out of my league on this one.

Not playing Jump every other day?   ;D

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2017, 02:40:39 PM »
No.  I seem to have misplaced my Van Halen collection.  I thought it was right next to my AC/DC cassettes.
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Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2017, 02:58:34 PM »
No.  I seem to have misplaced my Van Halen collection.  I thought it was right next to my AC/DC cassettes.

Funny, but I'm just now "discovering" AC/DC! I was a proud rock-hating, new wave teen back in the day, and pointedly rejected most anything I considered "rock." But I couldn't resist learning "Jump," right? That synth riff is just a brilliant hook, and it bridged a gap for me between the music I hated and the music I loved. Truth is, anything with a synth in caught my attention, even if otherwise it wasn't my thing. But yeah - I'm going back now and giving all sorts of music a second glance. My mid-life crisis seems to involve rebelling against my teenage anti-rock rebellion!

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2017, 03:05:15 PM »
Now there's a twist: mid-life being a rebellion against the teenage years!  I suspect when you're an old man, Ant, you'll be nursing.  ;D
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Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2017, 03:11:47 PM »
Now there's a twist: mid-life being a rebellion against the teenage years!  I suspect when you're an old man, Ant, you'll be nursing.  ;D

I shall not comment on your comment, for fear of revealing far too much to the world!

Yeah, I'm having a curious time suddenly enjoying much music I once despised. And at the same time, as I posted elsewhere, I'm digging back into the music I made in those not-very-heady teenage synthy days. I still listen often enough to so much of the stuff I liked as a kid - my tastes in music tend to expand, it seems. So Gary Numand and Ultravox have come back to haunt in a wonderful way, while new weird and normal musics get scribbled onto lists.

And, sure, I wish I'd written the "Jump" riff - why not!

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2017, 03:16:54 PM »
Jump lead and riff on Prophet 6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1RDgS9fhI4
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Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2017, 06:23:42 AM »
It's just a slight modification of the Brass Ensemble patch that was preset A1 on the OBXa. You can find PDF copies of the obxa patch book on the net. Why anyone would make a 16 voice layered version on the Rev2 is strange.
There was already a very good version that was made for the Prophet 08. It was posted a few times in the old forum.

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2017, 06:29:04 AM »
Here is the patch sheet. Sorry it's a little dark. It was taken on my iPad and my studio live room is not exceptionally bright.

Pidcin

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2018, 02:41:51 PM »
Here is the patch sheet. Sorry it's a little dark. It was taken on my iPad and my studio live room is not exceptionally bright.

 NEAT!

Hows you get a hold of this?

Pidcin

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2018, 02:43:21 PM »
Wait , never mind ... I guess you own one! Muaha

Any chance you can record a little clip of it on your IPAD? And put it up an unlisted YouTube video for us to check ?

Do you have the prophet 6? Could you try to recreate it with the prophet 6?

Pidcin

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2018, 02:47:44 PM »
Now there's a twist: mid-life being a rebellion against the teenage years!  I suspect when you're an old man, Ant, you'll be nursing.  ;D

I shall not comment on your comment, for fear of revealing far too much to the world!

Yeah, I'm having a curious time suddenly enjoying much music I once despised. And at the same time, as I posted elsewhere, I'm digging back into the music I made in those not-very-heady teenage synthy days. I still listen often enough to so much of the stuff I liked as a kid - my tastes in music tend to expand, it seems. So Gary Numand and Ultravox have come back to haunt in a wonderful way, while new weird and normal musics get scribbled onto lists.

And, sure, I wish I'd written the "Jump" riff - why not!

Its funny how instruments can make you appreciate music ... I found myself head banging to Miley Cyrus wrecking ball! Such amazing synth worth in there too!

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2018, 06:22:19 AM »
I quickly put the patch from the picture into my Oberheim Xpander, it sounds very authentic with a bit of Eventide H3000 preset 519 added. The H3000 apparently only launched in 1986, but 519 is based on the H910, which was around in 1984. Back in 1984, people probably would have thrown you out of the synth store if you played the Jump patch (again) :-)

So this patch is basically 2 heavily detuned saws with a subtle chorus added?

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #32 on: January 18, 2018, 06:39:33 AM »
Wait , never mind ... I guess you own one! Muaha

Any chance you can record a little clip of it on your IPAD? And put it up an unlisted YouTube video for us to check ?

Do you have the prophet 6? Could you try to recreate it with the prophet 6?

I'll be trying this weekend. :)
Prophet 6, Prophet X, Moog Sub 37, Tempest Drum Computer, Roland V Piano,Kurzweil K2600XS, Roland FA-08, Baldwin Upright Piano, Fender Stratocaster, Fender Telecaster, Gibson Chet Atkins SST, Jackson King V, Ibanez Jem, Roger Linn Adrenalinn iii

Pidcin

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #33 on: January 18, 2018, 11:11:16 AM »
Wait , never mind ... I guess you own one! Muaha

Any chance you can record a little clip of it on your IPAD? And put it up an unlisted YouTube video for us to check ?

Do you have the prophet 6? Could you try to recreate it with the prophet 6?

I'll be trying this weekend. :)

Very cool man! Please keep me updated

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2018, 11:16:41 PM »
In the comments of that youtube video above, the guy shows how he got there. I gave it a try, and while it's not perfect, it certainly got closer than any synth/preset I've tried besides the one in Arturia.

So according to that guy's recipe, basically you put both Osc's to saw, set the lowpass completely open, no or very little hi-pass. I turned the sub-osc off, fine-tuned the second saw sharp by just a hair (you'll start to hear the phasing if you start from 0 and move slowly). Set the amplitude attack to 0, decay to 0, sustain to max, release to 10'oclock or so. Turn off LFO. Add some slop. I added some chorus, and you can tweak reverb/delay either on the P6 or your rig, to taste.

I couldn't get the glide working for me, but it's definitely there in the song except for the intro.

Also, while I was listening for the glide I noticed like a ghost track of Dave's vocals around :11 that I never heard before. Right after the scream, there's like a little barely audible snippet of something in the vox. Cool, prob just someone's headphone mix bleeding in.

Anyways, I'd love to see if someone who knows wtf they're doing can tweak it from there and get it sounding tight. Oh, also I guess it goes without saying that you can't really play it on the P6 keyboard...not enough keys. I just used my 88key controller.
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Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2018, 10:22:58 PM »
 ;) See attached. This is really close, but I bet someone here can get closer.

Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2018, 11:23:35 AM »
Weird. I'm hearing this completely differently than many people here. I've always reproduced it by just taking a saw wave, gating the VCA and VCF, turning the resonance up to 10, then boosting the VCA to make up for the loss of gain, and then if on a single oscillator synth putting a slight chorus on it or if on a dual-oscillator synth just adding a detuned second oscillator. The original may have been bright and buzzy enough to just leave the resonance off, but I find it helps on lots of synths.

Just did it on the Modal 002, and it sounded best when the filter was turned all the way up to 1-pole and the resonance about a third of the way up.
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Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2018, 09:16:33 PM »
I found that the secret ingredient is the right Plate Reverb.  That gets you from 90% there to 99%.
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Re: JUMP patch tutorial?
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2018, 07:49:25 PM »
Here's my attempt at imitating the Jump intro. https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/vh-jmp

Done on the P-08.  Saw on osc 1, pw on osc 2 (50%).  Lfo mod of the pw (lots of it).  2 pole filter. 
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