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Pro 3 / Re: Sounds only demo
« Last post by Razmo on February 12, 2020, 10:37:42 AM »
They could always simply have Fixed FM wavetables with the ability to alter them via the shape parameter...much like the Roland System 8.

Sure, but real FM would give more realtime control since more than a simple shape parameter can be controlled... Unless 2op FM of course...then it would not make that big a difference... And wavetable synthesis is easier to understand and program than FM synthesis.

Anyway... Personally I can live without the linear FM... The Quantum will soon sport 6op FM synthesis so I am covered... Still... Would be nice if PRO3 had the abillity to fire off a little bit of linear FM tones... Cool for bell sounds.and metallic timbres. Cool for creating metallic and clangorous transients to layer with the analog oscillators  :)

For sure although I'm certain the Wavetables have some bells/gongs/metallic type sounds as well that could work.

Absolutely... All in all, PRO3 is more than cabable as it is now, especially if they expand on the wavetables with user waveTABLES and waveFORMS. Wavetables are probbably the most userfriendly way to add more oscillator flexibility compared to other more complex synthesis methods, and you can simulate a lot with them, especially if you have both user waveTABLES and user waveFORMS.

I am exited to see what Sequential choose when they will look at user waveTABLES and/or waveFORMS  :)
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Pro 3 / Re: Sounds only demo
« Last post by LoboLives on February 12, 2020, 10:00:43 AM »
They could always simply have Fixed FM wavetables with the ability to alter them via the shape parameter...much like the Roland System 8.

Sure, but real FM would give more realtime control since more than a simple shape parameter can be controlled... Unless 2op FM of course...then it would not make that big a difference... And wavetable synthesis is easier to understand and program than FM synthesis.

Anyway... Personally I can live without the linear FM... The Quantum will soon sport 6op FM synthesis so I am covered... Still... Would be nice if PRO3 had the abillity to fire off a little bit of linear FM tones... Cool for bell sounds.and metallic timbres. Cool for creating metallic and clangorous transients to layer with the analog oscillators  :)

For sure although I'm certain the Wavetables have some bells/gongs/metallic type sounds as well that could work.
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Tetra / Re: Problem when using NRPN
« Last post by wavefront on February 12, 2020, 09:25:51 AM »
I am controlling my Tetr4 with two BCR2000 controllers, and NRPN messages are working fine.
Only problem is you canīt see the values you are adjusting  on the Tetrīs display when in Multimode. Not sure if this can be fixed, or maybe it's just me who don't know how to setup my controllers correctly.

What controller and software do you use? 
Lars
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Other Hardware/Software / Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Last post by Razmo on February 12, 2020, 09:00:58 AM »
Thinking about cost effectiveness of chips indtead of discrete, not to mention pitch stabillity etc... I really think that the audio marked is ripe for newly developed ones.

The problem with the curtis is not the filter actually, it is that it is a synth on a chip where the signal flow is completely closed for any changes... What I think is needed is new chips that divide this into the three infividual synthesis blocks: VCO, VCF and VCA.

If three chips was used like that, there is no limit to what else you could put in between them hardwarewise, which could make each synth using these chips unique in many ways... I also believe that with surfacemount chips, curcuit size could be made much smaller.
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Other Hardware/Software / Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Last post by Razmo on February 12, 2020, 08:39:10 AM »
Thank you for the kind words everyone... Dolnt worry, I'll make it thru  ;)

Anyway, to get back to some proper ranting, as you probably have guessed already, I am still wondering about what 3rd synth will close my studio... It is constantly on my mind.

Quantum deliver anything I need in polyphony and synthesis tech up to about 80%... PRO3 take up part of the last 20%, mainly in the analog front end part, doing analog sequences, basses and lead sounds.

I am bending my brain to figure out what unique stuff I need for those last 10%... The only thing I feel I may miss is analog front end polyphony, though I am almost certain that Quantum can do a good job anyway with its analog filters.

Anyway, there just may be something unique about the raw tone of analog discrete vcos that Quantum may not deliver... My mind keep crossing either ob6 or p6, but I would rather really have one with another filter than those already in the PRO3... I have looked a bit at Prologue, but I am put off by the not very deep engine. I want its filters to sound oldschool 70s like which is hard to find with the criteria I got... I am almost certain that the only places I will find what I require will be either Waldorf, Sequential, MOOG, KORG or Novation.

What further complicate matter is that anything above 800mm in width is not possible, and that limits keyboard to 3 or 4 octaves which will be hard to find in an 8 to 16 voice polysynth...

I wonder what the big things Sequential are up to these days are... They wrote that we should not expect updates to prior synths in the coming time, so they must be wlrking on something big now, and I have s feeling it may be that missing 16 voice discrete component analog polysynth that currently ks lacking in their lineup, especially one that will take up the battle with the MOOG ONE... Which lead me to wonder if the new ladder filter in PRO3 was testing grounds for the next big thing to come.

A yway, I am almost ceftain that my third choise will probably be a Sequential product, so I better wait and see... There is still nothing that really has my interrest right now, and the ones that could work, have too many keys on them... Prologue16 and SUMMIT...

I actually think that a REV2 engine, with descrete curcuit vcos and SSI filter chips would do it for me... Maybe even a newly developed analog oscillator chip to go with the SSI filter chips would be cost effective... Now top that with the same FX as compiled on the PRO3 and that might wery well be what I am after, in a 4 oct keybed with wheels ABOVE the keys to limit width to within 800mm.

16 voices an absolute minimum btw. And no dual layer functionality, so that the front panel is intuitive to use not representing more than one parameter at any time.

I also wonder, if Sequential mah put out a third variant on the P6 with the ladder filter instead... I could see that working.
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OB-6 / Re: OB6 MPE
« Last post by Soundquest on February 12, 2020, 07:24:59 AM »
Been a year, I'm just weighing in again ;)   

I have full MPE on only one synth really- and that's the Modor NF1.  It's really the reason I bought it.  In conjunction with the Linn midi controller its really fun to mess with slides and poly AT, etc.   Addition of such a feature to the OB6 would keep this synth in premier status for many years to come.

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Other Hardware/Software / Re: Razmo's Gear Rant Thread...
« Last post by Soundquest on February 12, 2020, 07:15:35 AM »
You have the right approach Razmo, best regards.
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Pro 3 / Re: Sounds only demo
« Last post by Razmo on February 12, 2020, 06:47:25 AM »
They could always simply have Fixed FM wavetables with the ability to alter them via the shape parameter...much like the Roland System 8.

Sure, but real FM would give more realtime control since more than a simple shape parameter can be controlled... Unless 2op FM of course...then it would not make that big a difference... And wavetable synthesis is easier to understand and program than FM synthesis.

Anyway... Personally I can live without the linear FM... The Quantum will soon sport 6op FM synthesis so I am covered... Still... Would be nice if PRO3 had the abillity to fire off a little bit of linear FM tones... Cool for bell sounds.and metallic timbres. Cool for creating metallic and clangorous transients to layer with the analog oscillators  :)
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Sequential Prophet X / Skylife SampleRobot
« Last post by Proton on February 12, 2020, 06:05:21 AM »
I purchased Skylife's SampleRobot (an auto-sampling software that now also supports Prophet X) ... itīs not cheap, but it has some interesting features: https://samplerobot.com
Works great, in addition to external synths it can sample plugins in offline mode at multiple real-time speeds.
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Pro 3 / Re: Sounds only demo
« Last post by LoboLives on February 12, 2020, 05:45:25 AM »
They could always simply have Fixed FM wavetables with the ability to alter them via the shape parameter...much like the Roland System 8.
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