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Sequential Prophet X / Re: PX Toolkit - Erased USB Stick, need help!
« Last post by hoodoo_ray on December 03, 2023, 01:52:34 PM »Sorry to bump, anyone got any ideas?
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Prophet-5/Prophet-10 / Re: Poly-Mod Consistency Across Voices
« Last post by AdamXAudio on December 03, 2023, 12:46:50 PM »Just realized I never replied to this, but in case anyone stumbles on this in the future Sequential did confirm for me that what I was experiencing was normal with the inconsistencies across the voices in cases where a decent amount of Polymod is used.
If you look at all the factory presets that have Polymod applied in a polyphonic patch, they almost always keep it very low, and the high amounts of FM Polymod happen on monophonic patches where voices inconsistencies aren't as much of an issue.
If you look at all the factory presets that have Polymod applied in a polyphonic patch, they almost always keep it very low, and the high amounts of FM Polymod happen on monophonic patches where voices inconsistencies aren't as much of an issue.
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Pro 3 / MIDI CCs in the modulation matrix
« Last post by snu23 on December 03, 2023, 12:12:01 PM »All those MIDI CC destinations in the modulation matrix ... would it be possible to use those for modulating other hardware - like say, the wet/dry of a reverb? They always seem to be greyed out on my Pro 3.
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Prophet-5/Prophet-10 / Re: Poly-Mod Consistency Across Voices
« Last post by KenM on December 03, 2023, 11:43:54 AM »Wondering if you tried making a similar sound with a pulse wave for osc A rather than a sawtooth, and using Poly-Mod against PW A instead of Freq A? That does stay in tune ... kinda side-stepping the original issue
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Prophet 12 / Re: Oracle For The P12 iPad App
« Last post by redpony on December 03, 2023, 09:43:30 AM »I ended up connecting my iPad via usb directly and got the app working. Reported a few bugs which have been fixed. The app is very handy. You can easily recall things like a complex modulation matrix or delay setup. The random and morphing features are also very nice and can produce interesting results. Worth the small investment.
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OB-X8 / Re: Firmware update feature requests/bugs
« Last post by redpony on December 03, 2023, 09:37:59 AM »1- Make Page 2 shortcuts work with manual mode.
2 - Add an option to delete/add space when naming a patch. Perhaps a keyboard note press.
3 - Add 2nd Page shortcut to adjust Osc volume by way of freq knob.
4 - Sync LFOs to tempo.
2 - Add an option to delete/add space when naming a patch. Perhaps a keyboard note press.
3 - Add 2nd Page shortcut to adjust Osc volume by way of freq knob.
4 - Sync LFOs to tempo.
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Take 5 / Lofi hiss
« Last post by lewisfrancis on December 03, 2023, 09:16:37 AM »Anyone know if the Lofi effect is hissy as a natural result of its operation or if that hiss was added intentionally as part of the "lofi esthetic"?
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Prophet-5/Prophet-10 / Re: Prophet 5 Vintage knob behavior
« Last post by strytten on December 03, 2023, 09:16:01 AM »I really enjoyed this thread - thanks to all who contributed. I also enjoyed the link to the article on voice component modeling. Great stuff! I recently ordered a Yorick LFE and I'm looking forward to experimenting with some of these concepts by applying some slow frequency LFO settings on my Prophet 10 rev4 and some other synths that this unit supports.
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Prophet-5/Prophet-10 / Re: Prophet 5 Vintage knob behavior
« Last post by waxdoctor on December 03, 2023, 08:07:40 AM »Great, thanks for that!They are stable, repeatable per-voice offsets. This is by design and reflects measurements taken from vintage synths, where voice-to-voice variations would occur due to component tolerances. So for example in a vintage unit an oscillator’s tuning might be off by say 5 cents; the vintage knob will set the “depth” of that offset between in tune (at 4) and 5 cents off (at 1).
The only thing I dislike about the vintage knob on the P5/10 is that it applies offsets to the amp envelop sustain level so at certain settings you get audible sound after the decay stage has completed even if the envelope sustain is set to zero. I think they may have removed that when they added vintage knob to P6/OB-6; they certainly made some refinements to the implementation. I wish they’d tweak the algorithm in P5/10 to fix that too as zero should always be zero, otherwise it renders certain settings useless.
something like this is what I've tried to explain- yours sounds much more professionally founded...
so real randomization in the code/algorithm is off the hook then, and it is more a "pseudo randomization", done by the "even/odd voice counting logic" (combined with P5 or rr settings) which I've tried to explain as well, haha... thanks
It’s not random at all; the offsets are created by a lookup table. At a given vintage knob setting, the offsets applied to the parameters of a given voice will always be the same. (Contrast this with the original “slop” function of the P6 where the offset value constantly moved as it was basically being moved by a really slow LFO.)
There’s a very good explanation of this here https://www.voicecomponentmodeling.com/
Jason’s stellar and painstaking work has been incorporated into several synths.
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Prophet-5/Prophet-10 / Re: Prophet 5 Vintage knob behavior
« Last post by Quatschmacher on December 03, 2023, 07:56:51 AM »They are stable, repeatable per-voice offsets. This is by design and reflects measurements taken from vintage synths, where voice-to-voice variations would occur due to component tolerances. So for example in a vintage unit an oscillator’s tuning might be off by say 5 cents; the vintage knob will set the “depth” of that offset between in tune (at 4) and 5 cents off (at 1).
The only thing I dislike about the vintage knob on the P5/10 is that it applies offsets to the amp envelop sustain level so at certain settings you get audible sound after the decay stage has completed even if the envelope sustain is set to zero. I think they may have removed that when they added vintage knob to P6/OB-6; they certainly made some refinements to the implementation. I wish they’d tweak the algorithm in P5/10 to fix that too as zero should always be zero, otherwise it renders certain settings useless.
something like this is what I've tried to explain
so real randomization in the code/algorithm is off the hook then, and it is more a "pseudo randomization", done by the "even/odd voice counting logic" (combined with P5 or rr settings) which I've tried to explain as well, haha... thanks
It’s not random at all; the offsets are created by a lookup table. At a given vintage knob setting, the offsets applied to the parameters of a given voice will always be the same. (Contrast this with the original “slop” function of the P6 where the offset value constantly moved as it was basically being moved by a really slow LFO.)
There’s a very good explanation of this here https://www.voicecomponentmodeling.com/
Jason’s stellar and painstaking work has been incorporated into several synths.