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Other Hardware/Software / Re: Novation SUMMIT ?
« Last post by A Thousand Eyes on Yesterday at 04:54:07 PM »
I owned a REV2 16 voice and currently own a P6. They have the same TP/9S keybed, but for some reason the REV2 is too light for my taste and the P6 feels perfect. I talked to another owner of both and he thought the same thing. It might be that the springs are different, though no one at Sequential has ever confirmed this. I know this is the case with the Studiologic Sledge black edition. The MatrixBrute has a really cheap feeling keybed and it doesn't sound good to my ears. I have no clue why anyone would spend that much on it, especially with the Pro 3 out.

My recommendation considering what you already own is to go with a Sequential VCO synth to really embrace the reason to own analog. They're easier for beginners being that they feature a knob per function and have much larger sweet spots. Also, despite having less modulation options, actually have a wider timbral pallet due to the X-mod/poly-mod sections and state variable/analog high-pass filters (the REV2 has a digital high-pass that cost the layer's only effect). As for the P6 vs OB-6, I owned both briefly to compare the two, yet ended up keeping the P6. Although I would have been happy with either and both sound killer in mono as well.

As for the REV2 vs the Summit, as I said, I have a Summit on order, plus I don't miss the REV2 one bit. For now I can't comment on the Summit, but I think it will fit in nicely where the P6 is lacking. That is, for bells, digital basses, and vocal patches. The types of things your Kronos can handle if you don't mind menu-diving.
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Sequential Prophet-6 / Re: Quick polymod question
« Last post by Quatschmacher on Yesterday at 04:53:12 PM »
Hi, I don't 100% understand polymod yet on the P6. What's the difference between assigning an amount of Filter Env to say, the LP filter, as opposed to just increasing the Env Amount in the LPF section itself?

In that case there probably isnít much difference, though presumably if used together it would increase modulation depth further than the filterís dedicated envelope depth knob alone. There is already a fixed path between filter envelope and the filters. The difference comes when you use polymod to route that filter envelope to other destinations that have no dedicated filter envelope amount knob, such as the pulse width of the oscillators.

Using the filters as destinations in the polymod section will be quite different if you instead use osc2 as the polymod source.
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Other Hardware/Software / Re: Novation SUMMIT ?
« Last post by Quatschmacher on Yesterday at 03:37:10 PM »
I am contemplating between the Rev2 and the Summit. 

The Rev2 seems to invite you to play it, it has that sexy look.  The Summit seems to look plasticky and cluttered.  But looks do not make the sounds.  The Rev2 has that Fatar keybed where as the Summit has a keybed of somewhat unknown origin. 

For most of the demos that I have seen on the Rev 2, the players seem to use god awful high pitch noise sounds as well as presets reminiscent of the 80s.  I have already lived through that hell of a decade and I really don't want to go back.  I know that some of that is the awful YouTube compression but part of me is wondering if that is all the Rev2 can do in terms of how it sounds.   

I have not been able to find a lot of good Summit videos that demonstrate its sonic capabilities so I am not 100% sure of what it can do.  I do know that the FPGA chips allows you to also do FM and wavetable synthesis.  I am new to this type of deep programming on a synth so this could be a great learning opportunity for me.  Also the three oscillators are a big plus.

As much as I want to go to my local store and try them, I live in the mountains and the nearest stores large enough to maybe carry both are a good 6 hour drive away, one way, through said mountains.  Unfortunately they might carry one or the other at any time but not both (this is from checking their websites and seeing if they have any in stock).

I am looking for deep lush sounds that I can use to make pads as well as play more complex pieces such as those found in the Baroque and Classical eras.  Unfortunately the Moog One is way, way, WAY out of my budget.

I currently have a Kronos which has some great mono and poly engines but it I prefer the tactile feel of turning knobs to create and modulate the sounds.  I am a beginner in this type of synthesis, and as much as I could go with something like the Minilogue Xd, I don't buy and sell my synths like things on the stock market.  I tend to keep them for life which is why I do a lot of research before finally pulling the plug.  My plan is to have the Kronos, a poly synth, and a mono such as the Matrix Brute.

In the end, I am wondering what everyone's impressions are concerning either of these synths, especially those who have owned, or tried, both.  Any pointers to some good videos that really showcase what these boards can do sonically would be much appreciated.           

Try this one:
https://youtu.be/GttxY8pjSRM
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Other Hardware/Software / Re: Novation SUMMIT ?
« Last post by narkosys on Yesterday at 03:34:35 PM »
I am contemplating between the Rev2 and the Summit. 

The Rev2 seems to invite you to play it, it has that sexy look.  The Summit seems to look plasticky and cluttered.  But looks do not make the sounds.  The Rev2 has that Fatar keybed where as the Summit has a keybed of somewhat unknown origin. 

For most of the demos that I have seen on the Rev 2, the players seem to use god awful high pitch noise sounds as well as presets reminiscent of the 80s.  I have already lived through that hell of a decade and I really don't want to go back.  I know that some of that is the awful YouTube compression but part of me is wondering if that is all the Rev2 can do in terms of how it sounds.   

I have not been able to find a lot of good Summit videos that demonstrate its sonic capabilities so I am not 100% sure of what it can do.  I do know that the FPGA chips allows you to also do FM and wavetable synthesis.  I am new to this type of deep programming on a synth so this could be a great learning opportunity for me.  Also the three oscillators are a big plus.

As much as I want to go to my local store and try them, I live in the mountains and the nearest stores large enough to maybe carry both are a good 6 hour drive away, one way, through said mountains.  Unfortunately they might carry one or the other at any time but not both (this is from checking their websites and seeing if they have any in stock).

I am looking for deep lush sounds that I can use to make pads as well as play more complex pieces such as those found in the Baroque and Classical eras.  Unfortunately the Moog One is way, way, WAY out of my budget.

I currently have a Kronos which has some great mono and poly engines but it I prefer the tactile feel of turning knobs to create and modulate the sounds.  I am a beginner in this type of synthesis, and as much as I could go with something like the Minilogue Xd, I don't buy and sell my synths like things on the stock market.  I tend to keep them for life which is why I do a lot of research before finally pulling the plug.  My plan is to have the Kronos, a poly synth, and a mono such as the Matrix Brute.

In the end, I am wondering what everyone's impressions are concerning either of these synths, especially those who have owned, or tried, both.  Any pointers to some good videos that really showcase what these boards can do sonically would be much appreciated.             
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Sequential Prophet X / Re: Shared Samples
« Last post by Razmo on Yesterday at 01:48:43 PM »
I have a huge sampling project coming up as soon as I am able to (you know why), and I could easilly share my samples if anyone is interrested.

They will be made specifically for Waldorf Quantum, but this synth has many of the same sample layout features, so stuff like multisamples and repeated hits for roundrobin will also be what I will be going for.

The samples will be 44.1khz and any bit depth, and be a mixture of stuff recorded via microphone, but also synthetically made, and sampled from PRO3.

I will make them public bit by bit, as I create presets for Quantum, so it will not be one huge release... Rather a continuous stream of small packages.

If that seems interresting, just tell me... I will also be creating wavetable waveFORMS... Do not know if they are worth anything to the PX.


That certainly seems like it would interesting... The Pro 3 would certainly be a great source for interesting sample content.


just curious, what do you have in mind for the microphone recordings?

Anything for Ambient music... Recordings of nature and ambiences recorded in stereo, and also all kinds of weird recordings of bells, stringed things, percussion and all odds and ends... No limit... The point is that the waveforms are seen as material samples to be mangled into anything thinkable.

I have been collecting and buying all sorts of sound devices for some years now, especially at flea markets etc... Harp, zither, drums, gongs, bells, chimes, music boxes, kalimbas... Anything that make sounds... Also buy exiters like mallets made of filt, rubber, hair, metal... Recently bought small glass and metal balls to excite things too when dropped or rolled.

Hope that clarifies...
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DSM01 / Re: DSM01 VCA
« Last post by Razmo on Yesterday at 01:41:43 PM »
The reason it is coupled like that is probably because that VCA was never an extra add on, but rather because the chip is in fact a whole synth with its own vco, vcf and vca.

The VCA is probably coupled like that inside the whole chip...

Which leads me to conclude, that this module could have been made a synth voice instead... Two oscillators lie dormant in there, in fact I believe it has two VCAs on that chip at various places in the signal path.

This module could have had two oscillators, a filter, a panning vca as it is a stereo enhanced version of the original, and a level vca too... With some external in options this could have been quite a spectacular modular synth voice module.

.. At least if I am right...
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Sequential Prophet X / Re: Shared Samples
« Last post by Shaw on Yesterday at 01:32:41 PM »
I have a huge sampling project coming up as soon as I am able to (you know why), and I could easilly share my samples if anyone is interrested.

They will be made specifically for Waldorf Quantum, but this synth has many of the same sample layout features, so stuff like multisamples and repeated hits for roundrobin will also be what I will be going for.

The samples will be 44.1khz and any bit depth, and be a mixture of stuff recorded via microphone, but also synthetically made, and sampled from PRO3.

I will make them public bit by bit, as I create presets for Quantum, so it will not be one huge release... Rather a continuous stream of small packages.

If that seems interresting, just tell me... I will also be creating wavetable waveFORMS... Do not know if they are worth anything to the PX.


That certainly seems like it would interesting... The Pro 3 would certainly be a great source for interesting sample content.


just curious, what do you have in mind for the microphone recordings?
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Tempest / Re: New user: sysex over usb cable?
« Last post by Razmo on Yesterday at 01:21:59 PM »
Simply plug it up with a usb cable... As soon as your computer has seen the Tempest, two MIDI ports is automatically set up on your computer, Tempest In and Out... Now you can use these in any software that use MIDI... Just choose the ports and make them active in whatever software you want to use your Tempest With.

Just remember to set Tempest to "SysEx Cable = USB" in the global settings...

Btw. There are bugs in the SysEx implementation when using MIDI DIN, so I would only use USB, and NOT use DIN at the same time... The bugs were confirmed, but they never fixed them before stopping OS support.
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Sequential Prophet X / Re: Shared Samples
« Last post by Razmo on Yesterday at 12:58:42 PM »
I have a huge sampling project coming up as soon as I am able to (you know why), and I could easilly share my samples if anyone is interrested.

They will be made specifically for Waldorf Quantum, but this synth has many of the same sample layout features, so stuff like multisamples and repeated hits for roundrobin will also be what I will be going for.

The samples will be 44.1khz and any bit depth, and be a mixture of stuff recorded via microphone, but also synthetically made, and sampled from PRO3.

I will make them public bit by bit, as I create presets for Quantum, so it will not be one huge release... Rather a continuous stream of small packages.

If that seems interresting, just tell me... I will also be creating wavetable waveFORMS... Do not know if they are worth anything to the PX.
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Sequential Prophet-6 / Re: sysex question
« Last post by Razmo on Yesterday at 12:48:32 PM »
Besides, 1,2kb seems very much the size of a single preset, so I think I might be rights.

What happens is that the librarian waits for the first sysex message, then starts to store what it recieves... When that message is done, it stops... But the P6 simply start to send the next preset in the bank, but now the librarian has stopped looking for more data.

I bet there is a way to let your librarian take multiple messages in one go... Check its manual.
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