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OBERHEIM => OB-X8 => Topic started by: JimDaneker on August 17, 2022, 05:48:36 PM
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On day 3 with this beast and starting to discover a few things that I hope might be addressed in a firmware update. Thought I'd start a thread here so people can add to it! My unit is on OS 1.0.0.2 as of these notes:
1. It would be great to have the screen show parameter/value changes when operating controls. It shows value changes in Page 2 mode, but it would be great in normal mode too.
2. It would be WONDERFUL to be able to cycle through all 6 filter models without having to enter Page 2, and display them on the OLED as you do that. Instead of the filter LEDs just being dark for the Page 2 modes, maybe they could blink in different ways to indicate the SEM modes?
3. We need a linked mode to edit both layers simultaneously when in Double mode; as of now you can only edit one layer at a time.
4. Transpose should go more than 1 octave in each direction... at least two?
5. The Arpeggiator should show a BPM display when spinning the Rate knob
6. Is it possible to swap pitch & mod levers in software? 40 years of pitch bend on the left and mod on the right is really tough to unlearn ;-)
7. Pan Mode (Page 2) doesn’t transmit any MIDI CC when you change it - it only sends NRPN. This happens in both single and Double modes.
8. The sustain pedal doesn’t work when the arpeggiator is running. Maybe I'm missing something with how that works?
9. There’s a user on the big GS thread (Mr Analog) who made an excellent list of other ideas that could make the Page 2 parameters much faster/easier to access…
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Feature Request to Improve Aftertouch:
Change the Globals #5 - Key Aftertouch to be a 0-100 or 0-127 value rather than a bit ON/OFF. At 0 it would off, at 127 it would be full on, but allow the user to dial values in between -- to determine just how much total modulation should be applied when the aftertouch / channel pressure is fully applied.
When doing sound design for vibrato type of effects, you rarely want that much pitch modulation... if we have a way to set the max, the aftertouch on this instrument will be much more useful. Same for Filter Cutoff modulation... much more useful if aftertouch max modulation value can be defined by user.
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Feature Request to Improve Keyboard Velocity Options:
Similar to the request above regarding Aftertouch, it would be nice if there was a way in MISC menu to set how much of the velocity (0-100%) is multiplexed with the Filter Cutoff and/or Amp Envelope. (in the above request, I should have mentioned MISC menu, per patch, rather than global menu option.
It's really nice to have the modern keybed with velocity and aftertouch! great feeling board! -- might as well take advantage of modern firmware control options and give users the ability to dial in how much the velocity and aftertouch affects the output values... rather than having them set to all-or-none.
I want to scale down aftertouch output for most vibrato applications.. and same with velocity to filter or amp. Want there to be a baseline amount, and just have a moderate amount of dynamics with playing velocity.
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Great list, Jim.
On day 3 with this beast and starting to discover a few things that I hope might be addressed in a firmware update. Thought I'd start a thread here so people can add to it! My unit is on OS 1.0.0.2 as of these notes:
1. It would be great to have the screen show parameter/value changes when operating controls. It shows value changes in Page 2 mode, but it would be great in normal mode too.
2. It would be WONDERFUL to be able to cycle through all 6 filter models without having to enter Page 2, and display them on the OLED as you do that. Instead of the filter LEDs just being dark for the Page 2 modes, maybe they could blink in different ways to indicate the SEM modes?
3. We need a linked mode to edit both layers simultaneously when in Double mode; as of now you can only edit one layer at a time.
4. Transpose should go more than 1 octave in each direction... at least two?
5. The Arpeggiator should show a BPM display when spinning the Rate knob
6. Is it possible to swap pitch & mod levers in software? 40 years of pitch bend on the left and mod on the right is really tough to unlearn ;-)
7. Pan Mode (Page 2) doesn’t transmit any MIDI CC when you change it - it only sends NRPN. This happens in both single and Double modes.
8. The sustain pedal doesn’t work when the arpeggiator is running. Maybe I'm missing something with how that works?
9. There’s a user on the big GS thread (Mr Analog) who made an excellent list of other ideas that could make the Page 2 parameters much faster/easier to access…
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10. Double mode presets are merely "pointers" to single patches, which you learn the hard way after crafting something you love in Double mode, saving it, and coming back to find your edits gone. This makes a real headache out of patch management - reminds me of the Roland JX-10 where you have to keep track of the single patches that make up your "Doubles."
I wish Double presets stored everything necessary to recall them - both layer's patch data along with the Double settings. As of now you have to essentially store 2 single patches with their edits AND the Double patch that points to them.
Hopefully this can be addressed!
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10. Double mode presets are merely "pointers" to single patches, which you learn the hard way after crafting something you love in Double mode, saving it, and coming back to find your edits gone. This makes a real headache out of patch management - reminds me of the Roland JX-10 where you have to keep track of the single patches that make up your "Doubles."
I wish Double presets stored everything necessary to recall them - both layer's patch data along with the Double settings. As of now you have to essentially store 2 single patches with their edits AND the Double patch that points to them.
Hopefully this can be addressed!
+1 -- Saving the additional data on a per DOUBLE / per SPLIT basis would be excellent. A modern improvement with no downsides. Just add the ~1.2kb to the .syx data payload for those programs. As-is, its a pain to keep track of changes to patches -- if you ever go to reorganize, it would be a nightmare to keep track of everything and remap all the doubles/splits. Would be much better if once you save a double it won't be ruined if you go back to change a single that it includes.
Also, often the patches need adjustments to sound good in context of a stack, but those same adjustments would ruin the sound of the single they are based on.
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10. Double mode presets are merely "pointers" to single patches, which you learn the hard way after crafting something you love in Double mode, saving it, and coming back to find your edits gone. This makes a real headache out of patch management - reminds me of the Roland JX-10 where you have to keep track of the single patches that make up your "Doubles."
I wish Double presets stored everything necessary to recall them - both layer's patch data along with the Double settings. As of now you have to essentially store 2 single patches with their edits AND the Double patch that points to them.
Hopefully this can be addressed!
+1 -- Saving the additional data on a per DOUBLE / per SPLIT basis would be excellent. A modern improvement with no downsides. Just add the ~1.2kb to the .syx data payload for those programs. As-is, its a pain to keep track of changes to patches -- if you ever go to reorganize, it would be a nightmare to keep track of everything and remap all the doubles/splits. Would be much better if once you save a double it won't be ruined if you go back to change a single that it includes.
Also, often the patches need adjustments to sound good in context of a stack, but those same adjustments would ruin the sound of the single they are based on.
It’s a frustration of the P10 too.
The Summit does this quite well: a multi patch prompts you to pick two single patches to populate it, and the multi then becomes its own entity and any edits are saved separately and do not affect the patches from the “single” banks. (The only thing I haven’t worked out if is possible is to export one of the two pstchs in a multi to save as a single patch in the “single”bank.
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Ok here's a quick feature request:
I'd love a (page 2) option to control the number of voices assigned to each part in split mode. Split mode is awesome, but sometimes 4 voices is not enough for chords, and too many for leads or bass.
If I were able to control this, I could (e.g) assign 6 + 2 or 5 + 3 voices (which would allow for most chords to be played, and still leaving 2 or 3 voices for a lead and unison to be used to make it a "fat lead")
For unison, I'd love to see something similar to the Jupiter 8's dynamic assignment (I think the Prophet 5 also has this?); playing a single key would give full 8 voices; playing a second node would give 2 x 4 voices unison, etc.
(would love to see that on the OB-6 as well!)
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Ok here's a quick feature request:
I'd love a (page 2) option to control the number of voices assigned to each part in split mode. Split mode is awesome, but sometimes 4 voices is not enough for chords, and too many for leads or bass.
If I were able to control this, I could (e.g) assign 6 + 2 or 5 + 3 voices (which would allow for most chords to be played, and still leaving 2 or 3 voices for a lead and unison to be used to make it a "fat lead")
For unison, I'd love to see something similar to the Jupiter 8's dynamic assignment (I think the Prophet 5 also has this?); playing a single key would give full 8 voices; playing a second node would give 2 x 4 voices unison, etc.
(would love to see that on the OB-6 as well!)
That would be lovely but I think it might be an inherent limitation of the arrangement of the voices being on two boards, each with four. Similar to the P10 having five on each board.
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That would be lovely but I think it might be an inherent limitation of the arrangement of the voices being on two boards, each with four. Similar to the P10 having five on each board.
Possibly, yes.
I was hoping that the design allows for each voice could be controlled individually (given that each voice also can be calibrated, vintage adjusting each voice individually, and panning is controllable per voice). Perhaps that's only calibration points, and not suitable for "switching patches", but we can hope 🤞🤞🤞
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For unison, I'd love to see something similar to the Jupiter 8's dynamic assignment (I think the Prophet 5 also has this?); playing a single key would give full 8 voices; playing a second node would give 2 x 4 voices unison, etc.
On the P5/10, it's not quite the same as dynamic unison like the JP8. There is a poly unison mode which is a fixed two voices per key played, and then you can use the program number keys to increase the detune spread of the voices (in addition to the vintage knob and osc 2 tuning), so on a Prophet 10 it's an effective 5 notes polyphony when enabled so that would be only 4 on the OB-X8 if it adds PU2 mode. It's very fat and powerful sounding, but I find only the first three settings of detune are musically useful so I wish the detune level was more granular and dropped off logarithmically.
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I can think of some uses where having the sustain pedal (or any pedal) affect just the upper or lower patch when using double or split mode would be useful (but don't take away affecting both!).
+ infinity for an indication on the screen when the stored value is reached on the knobs like the OB-6.
Many other great suggestions so far from everyone.
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Would love to be able to hold the page 2 button and turn a knob or touch something like OSC 2 or Noise and for it to bring up the page 2 parameter.
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Hi there :)
For me cool features would be :
- when you make an init patch I will love to choose which synth i want (and not go to page 2 to select ob8 or obx envelop)
I mean, you will be able to choose ob8 and it will apply the envelop and the filter type
Or if you want obx mode,
Example : init patch ——> obx mode / ob8 mode (include filter and envelop type)
- pan spread with 0-100%
- choose to retrigger envelop or not in poly mode (like a digital synth…. I know it’s not obxishhh but it’s an obx8 2022)
- full volume press once // half volume oscillator by pressing two time the oscillator section
- random detuning oscillator only (not like the vintage knob because it affect filter and envelop too)
- it would be super cool to choose in the vintage mode different taste like :
Vintage mode page 2 —->
1) affect only oscillator
2) oscillator + filter
3) oscillator + filter + envelop
4) filter only
5) filter + envelop
6) envelop
- adjust the vintage mode like : soft / medium / hard
- no need to go to the page 2 for select all the filter but press only the button (someone already wrote it :) )
- more arpegiator mode (forward/reverse) etc
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Bugs section :
- I have some trouble with ob8 envelop
- when I change the mod one time the osc2 go up without any cause
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RFE - I would love a more ‘traditional’ arp latch mode. Set it on and it’ll arpeggiate all notes held and remain playing when all keys are released. Then press new notes and they make a new arpeggio (as opposed to adding the new notes to existing arpeggio). Korg synths do this and it’s amazingly musical and playable.
RFE - when syncing to an external clock make the arp rate knob be a clock divider/multiplier.
Kudos - the hidden arp transpose options are super cool. I don’t have anything like that on other synths and they open up a huge variety of arp musicality. Well done!
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RFE - I would love a more ‘traditional’ arp latch mode. Set it on and it’ll arpeggiate all notes held and remain playing when all keys are released. Then press new notes and they make a new arpeggio (as opposed to adding the new notes to existing arpeggio).
Already does this
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RFE - I would love a more ‘traditional’ arp latch mode. Set it on and it’ll arpeggiate all notes held and remain playing when all keys are released. Then press new notes and they make a new arpeggio (as opposed to adding the new notes to existing arpeggio).
Already does this
Hmmm… I couldn’t figure it out. From what I can tell reading the guide and mucking around with it, you have to hold some keys down then hit the Master Hold button. This will play those notes and allow you to play additional notes added to the arp (which is very cool). Let me be more detailed in what I’d like it to do (and if it does this, I could use some help figuring out how): enable arp and latch, hold down 8 notes on the keyboard and the arpeggio starts, remove hands from keyboard and the arp continues to play. Then play another bunch of notes and release for a new arpeggio. Make sense? Cheers!
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My requests are for MIDI patch changes.
1/ have a page 2 function that allows you to send a different patch change number (on a different channel) from the main patch change sent. This way if you use the same effects on several different patches you could send a PC to your effects module per patch.
2/ When in Double or Split mode have a page 2 setting that allows you to pick a MIDI Chanel for each along with a patch change, octave transpose, and use/disable sustain pedal setting (make sure the key zone in the splits follows what is sent out over MIDI). This would allow you to layer the internal sounds with other hardware and call up those patches in a live situation.
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It is a small thing…but could we have an option to reverse the direction of the mod as you can the pitch bend
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1. It would be good if additional banks were available for saving patches, as it stands its tricky for patch management if we are having to save over the remaining spaces over the 5 banks currently available. is it possible to add additional empty "User" slots seeing we just scroll using the Bank Knob and screen anyway?
2. also great if an insert character option was available when naming patches
3. more range on the transpose
4. Tempo info on screen for Arp.
5. When in DinSync mode would also be good if the arp tempo changed the time divisions from 1/1 through to 1/64 (T&D)
6. Different hold options in menu 2 to give us the old way and the more standard hold functions. with the hold button being so far away from key bed, at times I feel like I need 3 hands.
7. OSC1 and OSC2 Buttons, can these be set to act as "if held down, and Freq knob turned while holding" - Freq knob then acts as Osc1 or Osc2 Gain Knob depending on which one we hold?
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Would love to be able to hold the page 2 button and turn a knob or touch something like OSC 2 or Noise and for it to bring up the page 2 parameter.
Like to add a second feature request. Be able to save global tuning per patch. Global tuning is global as it is now and per patch tuning in page 2.
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Feature request:
1. "Saved value indicator" - Add a feature to indicate when you've returned to the "saved" value after tweaking a particular knob/parameter (e.g. Filter cutoff, Filter mod, Attack etc.). The OB-6 and Prophet 5/10 achieve this by lighting up the rightmost LED decimal point segment. Would love to have something similar on my OB-X8, as it's immensely helpful in deconstructing a patch, as well as to return to the stored value after real-time tweaking.
2. +1 on the addition of at least 1 "User" bank to store custom presets. Extra points if the bank name is renamable!
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In evaluating the OB-X8, an important aspect of having it as a full keyboard rather than just a module is its ability to act as a master controller. I have found the arpeggiator to be rather quirky in this regard. If I set the OB-X8 to control any other synth with the arpeggiator engaged, the notes on the receiving synth will be triggered by the arp, but also held to ring out as if the chord is both sustained and arpeggiated. It’s as if the voice allocation of the OB-X8 is using the additional voices to sustain over MIDI to the other synths being controlled. I tried switching to Unison to see if that changed it, but it only made it inoperable. Also, Unison mode in the OB-X8 does not work right with the arpeggiator. Bottom line is the Arpeggiator needs an overhaul on how it handles MIDI. And subdivisions and tempo display would be highly useful as well. I compared the arp functionality to how a Prophet 6 handles controlling other synths via MIDI and the arp works as it should - no sustained notes and unison works just fine as well. Lovely instrument, the OB-X8, just needs a few tweaks!
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Two bugs to address:
-there is a volume discrepancy of about 1 dB between the voice cards, apparently this is know and being worked on.
-also, I am getting some undesirable oscillator phase locking/syncing occasionally (on voices where oscs are basically in perfect unison). It's easy to "break" with the slightest amount of detune so I wonder if there is a way to set a global minimum detune value to keep from happening. It's not something that ever happened on the old OBs and shouldn't here.
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As people said before I wish for more shortcuts and more use of the screen when you adjust knobs without Page 2.
Also wish showing ADSR graphics when you adjust filter/volume.
Would be nice to have a oscilloskop too.
When in Double/Split mode I wish you could save them without messing with the originals. I wish I could just hear one patch at a time pushing Lower/Upper at ones so one light up. So I can adjust the volume etc. When I want to hear both together I activate both. This way I can hear and adjust the two patches perfectly.
Wish for a little icon that indicates where the knob position was when you adjust for example the filter. This would be great together with showing filter on the screen when adjusting it without Page 2.
Also wish, as stated before, a user bank. And easier/faster way to edit names. Using two knobs works but is tidesome.
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OSC1 and OSC2 Buttons, can these be set to act as "if held down, and Freq knob turned while holding" - Freq knob then acts as Osc1 or Osc2 Gain Knob depending on which one we hold?
This, and add the Noise button to that as well - hold the desired button, change the freq pot = levels for Osc1/Osc2/Noise into the filter
There are a lot of unused panel switches and a few pots on Panel mode for Page2 that could be utilised.
Agree with all the other suggestions in this thread too - especially some indicator in the screen for a panel control being adjusted, this would be useful
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Arpeggiator doesn't have clock divider when receiving external clock. I would think the Rate dial should be a good solution for this.
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Feature Request.
Since the envelopes are all digital, would it be possible to incorporate the following options in Page two.
Feature Name: Envelope Mod and Envelope Delay. Option available for both Filter (Filter Env. Mod) and Volume (Volume Env. Mod), the filter being the priority as it feeds to pitch as well. Filter Env. Delay and Volume Env. Delay are self-explanatory.
Options for Envelope Mod:
Normal: Current implementation of envelopes.
Invert: Current implementation of envelopes but inverted.
Repeat on Delay: After Delay reaches the Sustain level, it retriggers the envelopes. Runs as long as the key is held.
The envelope type will still affect curves. The envelope Mod would open up new sonic possibilities. It could be used to add a polyphonic LFO effect. While not an original OB series feature, it could be viewed as an OB-X8 feature that makes it an even more modern OB.
I know this is asking for more menu diving. However, I think it would be worth it.
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I've found two bugs, and have reported both to Focusrite/Sequential/Oberheim, but it was suggested that I mention them here as well.
1. You can outrun the pitch bend paddle if you're trying to do Minneapolis-style bends (works fine over MIDI though).
https://youtu.be/dTKuNaySowo
2. In either split or double mode, if you transpose either layer, the VCOs get transposed but not the filter cutoff. The Xa transposes both the VCO and the VCF as expected (perhaps someone can verify that the OB-8 does both as well)
https://youtu.be/5GxihlA4r1w
I would love to see a matched color label set for adding at least the old Page 2 params to the front panel
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This sort of thing wouldn't happen in the eighties because the software was stored on hardware ROM chips, and it would have been extremely costly for a company to have the units sent back to replace those ROM chips with updated software.
But nowadays, even on a synth at this high price point, programmers just don't test everything as thoroughly because they're lazy and rely on customers to do their testing for them, and the fact that a firmware update is easily done by USB with a file.
You pay a high premium but still, you have to work for them for free as beta testers.
I know, it has happened to me with my Prophet REV2 and OB6, taking close to 2 years for all the major bugs to be ironed out. ::)
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This sort of thing wouldn't happen in the eighties because the software was stored on hardware ROM chips, and it would have been extremely costly for a company to have the units sent back to replace those ROM chips with updated software.
But nowadays, even on a synth at this high price point, programmers just don't test everything as thoroughly because they're lazy and rely on customers to do their testing for them, and the fact that a firmware update is easily done by USB with a file.
But at the same time, in the 1980s the programmers wouldn't have to deal with the incessant expectations of random customers that the exact feature that THEY want should take R&D priority over everything else.. Because it was shipped on ROM chips, you buy what you buy and then youre stuck with it.
That's technological "progress" I suppose. There's a trade-off of the additional QA investment of trying to get things as perfect as possible before burning to chip...testing is not as thorough but we now have the the bonus of additional (and very useful) features being added to the synth, long after it ships. And Sequential has delivered nicely in this regard.
The Oberheim OB-X original MSRP was $4,600 USD. That's over $21,000 USD in today's money.
I think many people would argue that the tradeoffs we've made in the name of tech progress are worthwhile.
Besides it's not like the old chips didn't have bugs, even with lots of expensive QA investment. All of those synths had plenty of bugs.
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But at the same time, in the 1980s the programmers wouldn't have to deal with the incessant expectations of random customers that the exact feature that THEY want should take R&D priority over everything else.. Because it was shipped on ROM chips, you buy what you buy and then youre stuck with it.
That's technological "progress" I suppose. There's a trade-off of the additional QA investment of trying to get things as perfect as possible before burning to chip...testing is not as thorough but we now have the the bonus of additional (and very useful) features being added to the synth, long after it ships. And Sequential has delivered nicely in this regard.
The Oberheim OB-X original MSRP was $4,600 USD. That's over $21,000 USD in today's money.
I think many people would argue that the tradeoffs we've made in the name of tech progress are worthwhile.
Besides it's not like the old chips didn't have bugs, even with lots of expensive QA investment. All of those synths had plenty of bugs.
You've got a point about the bonus of adding features whilst correcting bugs.
As for old machines having bugs, I don't know of any polysynth from any company back in the eighties that would have had those two particular bugs demonstrated by eframp on the OBX8 earlier.
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You've got a point about the bonus of adding features whilst correcting bugs.
As for old machines having bugs, I don't know of any polysynth from any company back in the eighties that would have had those two particular bugs demonstrated by eframp on the OBX8 earlier.
Apparently you never played or owned an Ensoniq VFX, it was a mess of similar bugs.
Many popular polysynths from the 80s didn't even have MIDI or multi-timbrality, thus wouldn't have anywhere near the implementation complexity that such a feature-rich synth like the OB-X8 has.
I don't think it's a reasonable basis of comparison to look for the presence of specific bugs in specific vintage synths... the point is they had bugs.... plenty of them; and it's largely irrelevant whether they were tuning bugs or the equivalent of bugs being discussed on these forums. If anyone needs evidence of this, there are lots of various vintage clips on Youtube of popular artists complaining about the state of reliability of 1980's synthesizers, and there are plenty of clips showing the bugs occurring in the middle of a live act.
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I still own a few classic synths from the eighties, Ensoniq SQ-80, Korg DW8000, Oberheim Matrix-6, and none of them have any bugs, and all of them have MIDI. The SQ-80 is a very complex machine, essentially a workstation, with a fabulous user interface and no bugs. I recently bought a drum machine from Roland, the TR-8S, and there are no bugs in that machine either, and it's a pretty powerful one too. There might be some minor ones that I didn't see, but certainly no major ones like the ones described by eframp. I still maintain that today's programmers are lazy, either that or plainly incompetent.
I clearly remember how long it took DSI to identify and correct a major bug in the digital encoder reading routine on the REV2, that would result in values jumping around randomly when turning them. They went so far as to send me a complete board replacement before realizing that their software was faulty, to begin with about six months later!
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I still own a few classic synths from the eighties, Ensoniq SQ-80, Korg DW8000, Oberheim Matrix-6, and none of them have any bugs, and all of them have MIDI. The SQ-80 is a very complex machine, essentially a workstation, with a fabulous user interface and no bugs. I recently bought a drum machine from Roland, the TR-8S, and there are no bugs in that machine either, and it's a pretty powerful one too. There might be some minor ones that I didn't see, but certainly no major ones like the ones described by eframp. I still maintain that today's programmers are lazy, either that or plainly incompetent.
I clearly remember how long it took DSI to identify and correct a major bug in the digital encoder reading routine on the REV2, that would result in values jumping around randomly when turning them. They went so far as to send me a complete board replacement before realizing that their software was faulty, to begin with about six months later!
To be perfectly fair on the SQ-80 point, that synth had many EPROM OS firmware revisions starting with the original ESQ-1 OS that had quite a few bugs. Even after it got the SQ-80 revision there are multiple OS versions. In those days users were just stuck with it unless they called the company and found out it existed, then paid for a new EPROM OS chip to be mailed to them to install. It's definitely a misrepresentation to say that the SQ-80 appeared out of nowhere as a completely new product with perfect day 1 software.
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To be perfectly fair on the SQ-80 point, that synth had many EPROM OS firmware revisions starting with the original ESQ-1 OS that had quite a few bugs...
Name one...
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To be perfectly fair on the SQ-80 point, that synth had many EPROM OS firmware revisions starting with the original ESQ-1 OS that had quite a few bugs...
Name one...
Sigh.... ::) ok -
Most of the firmware and their bugs documented here:
https://soundprogramming.net/synthesizers/ensoniq/ensoniq-esq-1/
The same site also has a bit of info on the SQ-80 firware versions. It looks like even that was up to OS revision 1.8 by end of life, despite jumping off from all the fixes that happened up to ESQ-1 3.5.
Anyway, I'm appreciative of Sequential and their track record of sticking with the recent synths and adding lots of big features the the P5, P6/OB6, Pro3 etc. well after launch. Personally really hoping for something similar to the dot that marks a knobs saved preset value when passing it like on their other synths to appear on the X8. As well as a way to edit both layers simultaneously in double mode.
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I wanted to wait a while before doing this, until I had a real feel for the OB-X8. I love it, and overall I think it's the best synth ever made. With that said, this is a list of everything I'd like to see changed about it, in order of urgency/priority. Some of these things may not be possible in firmware, but I'm stating them anyway in case there are future versions. Some have been mentioned by others.
1. Arpeggiator Clock
The biggest frustration for me by far is the lack of functions like those in the CLOCK section of the OB-6. The ability to set a tempo by BPM, and then choose subdivisions against that clock (or an external clock). I would also like to have tempo sync for LFOs, etc, but those are a lower priority. Not having that functionality makes the arpeggiator nearly unusable in a variety of situations. The RATE knob is imprecise, and you can only adjust it to match a tempo by ear. Also, when set to an external clock, there is no ability to choose the subdivision of the arpeggiator. It plays 16th notes only, synced to whatever tempo it's receiving. If this can be changed, I hope it will be done as soon as possible.
2. Arpeggiator HOLD
The way it works now, if you hold down notes with both hands, there is no way to press the hold button. I've ended up using my nose to do it. An option to switch the way this works, to a pre-played behavior, is badly needed.
3. OB-X/a/8 Modes, Pan Settings
Every time I start new program, the first things I adjust are the Filter Type, Square Mode, Envelope Mode, and LFO mode for the different versions of OB, and the Pan settings. Having to do a bunch of scrolling through Page 2 for those settings is very annoying. Ideally, there would be buttons on the panel, in the Control section for Pan Mode, Pan Width, and Stereo/Mono output (from the Global Menu), and in the Programmer section for OB-X/OB-Xa/OB-8 modes (including all of the settings above). Barring that, I think there should be an option added to Page 2, right at the start as the first option, to choose between OB-X/a/8 modes, that would switch the Filter, Squares, Envelopes and LFOs to match the corresponding model. Similarly, the Pan/Stereo settings should be moved close to the start. There should also be panel mode adjustments for those, like the other Page 2 functions on the OB-8.
4. Saved position indicator
This function exists on the Prophet-6/OB-6 and presumably Trigon-6. When you turn a control past the saved point for that patch, a red dot appears on the display. It was a very key addition to those models. I was very surprised this doesn't have something like that, and it should. It seems like it should be very easy.
5. USER Program Bank
It would be really good to have a separate, empty, USER program bank, instead of just having empty patches at the end of each factory bank. That's really inconvenient and disorganized. I would think this could be done easily in firmware.
6. Graphic design
Even though it's superficial, I really wish the OB-X8 had the blue-line graphics that Oberheim products are known for, instead of the earlier, briefly used gray squares of the OB-X. I awaited the release of the OB-X8 more eagerly than any other instrument, and I was extremely surprised and disappointed that it used that design, especially since the better known design was used on the OB-6. If Oberheim/Sequential produced optional replacements for the panel and lever box covers with the blue line design the brand is known for, I would buy them immediately. If they produced an alternate version of the OB-X8 with no changes except the graphic design, I would buy it immediately. If they produced a revision with that design, I would buy it immediately. Having waited this long for this synth to exist, and paid the not-insignificant price for it, it really bothers me that it doesn't look the way I think most people expected it to. I've never thought the gray squares looked good, and as a continuation of the line, it doesn't make sense to go backwards with the design. I really kind of don't like to look at it. Having owned an OB-6, I actually feel like it loses some psychological inspiration by not looking like what I consider a real Oberheim to be.
Aside from those, I agree with most of the suggestions above, but these are the ones that are most urgent to me.
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To be perfectly fair on the SQ-80 point, that synth had many EPROM OS firmware revisions starting with the original ESQ-1 OS that had quite a few bugs...
Name one...
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Most of the firmware and their bugs documented here:
https://soundprogramming.net/synthesizers/ensoniq/ensoniq-esq-1/
The same site also has a bit of info on the SQ-80 firware versions. It looks like even that was up to OS revision 1.8 by end of life, despite jumping off from all the fixes that happened up to ESQ-1 3.5.
Anyway, I'm appreciative of Sequential and their track record of sticking with the recent synths and adding lots of big features the the P5, P6/OB6, Pro3 etc. well after launch. Personally really hoping for something similar to the dot that marks a knobs saved preset value when passing it like on their other synths to appear on the X8. As well as a way to edit both layers simultaneously in double mode.
This discussion should be moved elsewhere.
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The manual refers to shortcuts, for setting the oscillator and noise levels, that do not seem to be implemented:
Osc 1 Level: The Osc 1 level control allows you to set the specific volume level for Oscillator 1 when the osc 1 panel switch in the Filter section is engaged.
Osc 2 Level: The Osc 2 level control allows you to set the specific volume level for Oscillator 2 when the osc 2 panel switch in the Filter section is engaged.
Noise Level: Similar to the Osc 1 and 2 Level parameters, this allows you to set the level of noise when the noise switch is engaged.
With Page 2 engaged, pressing these switches either turns the corresponding oscillator/noise on/off (when the Page 2 Edit Mode is Display Only) or jumps to Portamento settings (when the Page 2 Edit Mode is Panel + Display). Holding down either of these switches + the Page 2 button does nothing either.
I'm on OS 1.0.0.3.
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The manual refers to shortcuts, for setting the oscillator and noise levels, that do not seem to be implemented:
Osc 1 Level: The Osc 1 level control allows you to set the specific volume level for Oscillator 1 when the osc 1 panel switch in the Filter section is engaged.
Osc 2 Level: The Osc 2 level control allows you to set the specific volume level for Oscillator 2 when the osc 2 panel switch in the Filter section is engaged.
Noise Level: Similar to the Osc 1 and 2 Level parameters, this allows you to set the level of noise when the noise switch is engaged.
With Page 2 engaged, pressing these switches either turns the corresponding oscillator/noise on/off (when the Page 2 Edit Mode is Display Only) or jumps to Portamento settings (when the Page 2 Edit Mode is Panel + Display). Holding down either of these switches + the Page 2 button does nothing either.
I'm on OS 1.0.0.3.
This sounds correct? Seems like it's talking about the page 2 options for those mixer levels and I take "when the osc 1 switch is engaged" to mean that the osc 1 or 2 or noise switches need to be turned on (ie those sources not muted) in the filter section for the level to have any effect. Rather than a shortcut like "hold the osc 1 button and turn the filter freq knob to change the osc 1 volume" kinda thing people seem to be hoping for in an update.
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I really kind of don't like to look at it. Having owned an OB-6, I actually feel like it loses some psychological inspiration by not looking like what I consider a real Oberheim to be.
Unless they do a limited edition I'm not sure that will happen. It's impossible to please everyone when it comes to aesthetics. For me I'm more a fan of the white SEM Oberheims than I am of the OB line.
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I really kind of don't like to look at it. Having owned an OB-6, I actually feel like it loses some psychological inspiration by not looking like what I consider a real Oberheim to be.
Unless they do a limited edition I'm not sure that will happen. It's impossible to please everyone when it comes to aesthetics. For me I'm more a fan of the white SEM Oberheims than I am of the OB line.
I doubt they would sell just the metal covers. But they have made multiple versions of the same thing before (SE), with cosmetic differences, and functional ones like the switch from endless encoders to potentiometers on the Prophet ‘08. In this case, I think the main Oberheim blue line design would have been the correct decision for the OB-X8, because of what it is. It combines three synths, the second two of which had that design. The OB-X design looks like a generic placeholder that was used briefly until they settled on the design they stuck with for years after, their peak years.
In 2022, the gray squares look much more dated than the blue lines would have. As a continuation of the OB line, it makes no sense to go backwards to a design they clearly didn’t like that much, because it was only produced for a year or so before they changed it. The years when Oberheim made “the system” - including the DMX and DSX, all with the same unified design, is what people think of when they think of Oberheim. And the OB-X8 fits right into that era, with the OB-Xa and OB-8.
If anybody had asked me before it was released what it would look like, I never in a million years would have guessed it would be the OB-X. I was not pleasantly surprised, to be honest. Very disappointing.
The synth itself is a complete home run, and it’s a superficial issue, so it’s not the end of the world. But it is something that bugs me every time I look at it, and instead of getting used to it and that going away, it continues to bug me. I wish there was an option for me. And they would make more money from me if there was.
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Very much need the ability to store splits and doubles as patches without having to chase down the upper and lower single patches. When I save a split, I go back later and it is gone for whatever reason.
Need the ability to tune osc down one more octave. A function through page two is fine so I don't have to keep hitting the transpose button when changing to certain patches.
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User Bank
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Always best to email sequential support directly with any feature requests, whereupon they will collate them. They don’t always read here.
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I would love to have the ability to assign voice count per patch. So I'd like to save some patches with only 5 or 6 voices for example. Because I usually prefer 6 voices due to how voice stealing can make things sound cleaner.
Also, in addition to the filter modes that are available, would be cool to have advanced versions of the filter modes that unlock the full range of the filters capabilities. Assuming these ranges are calibrated by software and not hardwired/hardcoded. So essentially you'd get access to a wider range of resonance on the 4 pole filter for example.
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I would love to have the ability to assign voice count per patch. So I'd like to save some patches with only 5 or 6 voices for example. Because I usually prefer 6 voices due to how voice stealing can make things sound cleaner.
I'd be surprised if that isn't added, given the voice # configurations that were available on the originals, and since the ability to limit to 5 voices was added to the Prophet 10.
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1. It would be good if additional banks were available for saving patches, as it stands its tricky for patch management if we are having to save over the remaining spaces over the 5 banks currently available. is it possible to add additional empty "User" slots seeing we just scroll using the Bank Knob and screen anyway?
2. also great if an insert character option was available when naming patches
3. more range on the transpose
4. Tempo info on screen for Arp.
5. When in DinSync mode would also be good if the arp tempo changed the time divisions from 1/1 through to 1/64 (T&D)
6. Different hold options in menu 2 to give us the old way and the more standard hold functions. with the hold button being so far away from key bed, at times I feel like I need 3 hands.
7. OSC1 and OSC2 Buttons, can these be set to act as "if held down, and Freq knob turned while holding" - Freq knob then acts as Osc1 or Osc2 Gain Knob depending on which one we hold?
True multi-timbral option to sequence multiple preset patches into multiple MIDI channels from a hardware sequencer. I can do this on my Virus TI2 and Elektron Digitone gear. Oberheim sounds massive and if I could sequence a brass pad, strings pad and bass patch at same time from the OB X8 that would be a godsend for me.
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Please is possible to get the FULL CHANGELOG and all firmware somewhere in the official site? I bought my OB-X8 before Xmas 2022 with onboard the 1.003 and now I find the 1.007 ..what about the 005 and 006?
Would be nice to know all the improvements, thnx!
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Sometimes the versions with intermediate numbers don’t get released to the public. It can be that there are several bugs being fixed and each intermediate step fixes just one. That new version is given a number. The firmware is only released when the known bugs are fixed so it may have gone through a few iterations before then as each singie bug is addressed. The released version change log will likely include all the bugs that were addressed along the way between the two publicly released versions so will include the stuff from the “missing/skipped-over” numbers.
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Just going to update my OB-X8 to latest firmware. Looked through manual but can't see how you put OB-X8 into mode to receive update from laptop? Can anyone help? Thanks and sorry for such a basic question!
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Just going to update my OB-X8 to latest firmware. Looked through manual but can't see how you put OB-X8 into mode to receive update from laptop? Can anyone help? Thanks and sorry for such a basic question!
The instructions will usually be included as a text file with the download of the OS. They are also usually detailed on the forum page and post which contains the download files.
I’m presuming it’s like in the P10 - simply go to the globals menu and set whether MIDI receive is via USB or DIN and the synth will respond automatically when the SysEx file is sent to it.
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Sometimes the versions with intermediate numbers don’t get released to the public. It can be that there are several bugs being fixed and each intermediate step fixes just one. That new version is given a number. The firmware is only released when the known bugs are fixed so it may have gone through a few iterations before then as each singie bug is addressed. The released version change log will likely include all the bugs that were addressed along the way between the two publicly released versions so will include the stuff from the “missing/skipped-over” numbers.
Ok, got it so the public one counts also the beta.
Thnx!
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Request for the next firmware:
In my studio i have adark light ambient and the red light of the leds is killing my eyes! Please is it possible to add in the global menu the possibility to dimmer the led red light intensity?
Thanks.
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Dunno if anybody has mentioned this, but sustain pedal Note Off mode voice allocation could be handled better. At this point once you reach the polyphony of the instrument you're out of luck; it would be good for some voice stealing to happen there instead.
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Dunno if anybody has mentioned this, but sustain pedal Note Off mode voice allocation could be handled better. At this point once you reach the polyphony of the instrument you're out of luck; it would be good for some voice stealing to happen there instead.
This is intentional - I posted a thread about it and support confirmed it is how it is meant to be.
I dislike it too.
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My firmware wish list:
When you’re editing a preset, the OBX8 should have a way of indicating the programmed (saved) value for any knob parameter. Whenever you turn a knob, and it reaches the saved value of a given parameter, an LED dot in the OBX8 display should illuminate.
Poly Unison Mode ---this request should be EASY to do because they’ve already implemented this in the Prophet 10.
Ability to assign the number of voices to upper and lower when in Split mode: example: 4/4; 5/2; 2/5; 5/3; 3/5; 6/2; 2/6; 7/1; 1/7.
Split/Doubles store all settings and More User Banks. (If adding more memory is required to make this happened, I’d be willing to pay for the upgrade).
Ability to step through all (6) Filter Types directly from front panel. The same Filter TYPE button could be used…. Just keep pressing the button to cycle through all (6) filters types.
Bi-timbral mode when in Split or Double mode. Upper/Lower patches optional to receive on different Midi channels.
Since the Arpeggiator is the only additional performance fun feature we have, (no sequencer & effects), I think there needs to be more attention on updating and maximizing the Arpeggiator as much as possible. Such as: ability to set tempo by BPM, ability to choose subdivisions, ability to be clocked internally or externally, ability to create-&-store your own ARP patterns, use the sustain pedal to HOLD Arp,
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Well done Jim- For god sake Tom / Markus sort the software out this should be on par with the OB6/ Prophet 6/ Rev2- You could buy all 3 for the price almost. I am literal;ly on the verge of selling my X8 as this is so poor in comparison. Tone will only get you so far......
1. Sort the arpeggiator out - it is appalling and unusable- just use the Sequential / OB6 programs FFS
2. Where is the BPM - Everything should have it- LFO, Arp, Sequencer (when there is one)
3. Transpose- 1 octave? This is a £4,500 synth?
I'm pretty pissed off with the blatant lack of basic functionally here. You have the code - just upload it in the next software update. Seriously this synth has been out for months now.....
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I don't own an OB-X8 but I've seen a video demo where the synth was in layer mode, and you couldn't tweak the filter cutoff of both layers simultaneously, but that was an early firmware revision and Oberheim/Sequential said that they were working on that. Has it been added yet in the later firmware revisions? Anybody know? Thanks.
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I don't own an OB-X8 but I've seen a video demo where the synth was in layer mode, and you couldn't tweak the filter cutoff of both layers simultaneously, but that was an early firmware revision and Oberheim/Sequential said that they were working on that. Has it been added yet in the later firmware revisions? Anybody know? Thanks.
That's what the rear panel FILTER jack is for.
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Arpeggiator doesn't have clock divider when receiving external clock. I would think the Rate dial should be a good solution for this.
Yes! To add to some of the other comments, I would love to see:
- Clock divider on the ARP when using an external clock
- When in double/split, have a MIDI channel for each part
- Use the screen to show ADSR when editing
- Use the screen to show any parameter value when editing
- allow setting to change sustain pedal to hold versus slow fade style. I like both. Option would be great.
- Would like some other options on the ARP style in general. I love arpeggios and it can feel a bit limited at times.
Most of these have been suggested before. Might be good to add an upvote to the forum. :)
Keep improving on this amazing machine! :)
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- allow setting to change sustain pedal to hold versus slow fade style. I like both. Option would be great.
That's already there (but it's a global config); global menu, page 17: "Sustain Pedal Mode"
Unfortunately, OB-X8 doesn't (yet?) have a config for note priority, so it's not as useful as on other synths
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I use DOUBLE mode alot - editing UPPER and LOWER simultaneously would be much easier by simply pressing both buttons...
Pressing UNISON with 1 to 8 for the number of voices would be handy
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I sold my previous pride and joy, a vintage Prophet-5, to purchase an OB-X8. I thoroughly researched the sound design parameters beforehand and have no complaints. But, I have been thinking about the one feature that the Prophet offers that the X8 lacks, namely high audio-rate modulation of the filter cutoff. I know that the OB-X8's LFO can be pushed to 50 Hz and applied to the filter (and indeed PWM). However, for each voice, the Prophet's Poly-Mod controls let you apply the frequency of Oscillator 2 to the filter chip that it's being fed through, which can yield interesting results.
I accept that this can't be done in hardware unless the circuits were laid out so as to permit it, although I can think of a way that it could possibly be done in software, were the processor sufficiently powerful. But what about a Page 2 option to let you switch the LFO into a higher frequency range, in the manner of the Buchla Music Easel? Were this possible, you could at least modulate the filter chips en masse at a high frequency, e.g. 5 kHz.
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This was mentioned before, but I like to emphasise it.
1) syncable LFO`s - please (It`s so hard to dial in the right amount. A 5 or 10 time "magnification", using the same knob while make it finer to use would do the job, too. But maybe it`s not helping the process to become more simple, as it could have been.)
While making a track it happens occasionally that I change the bpm of it. It really varies from day to day in the early phase of creation until it is set.
2) panspread in per cent in stead of quarters of a whole. Smoother, like on an OB-6
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1- Make Page 2 shortcuts work with manual mode.
2 - Add an option to delete/add space when naming a patch. Perhaps a keyboard note press.
3 - Add 2nd Page shortcut to adjust Osc volume by way of freq knob.
4 - Sync LFOs to tempo.
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I doubt it's possible, but Split/Double Mode REALLY should store both layers' patch data. As of now, you have to save both layers' patches separately, and then be mindful of which patches are used by Double/Split presets. Reminds me of the mind-numbing Tone/Patch system of the Roland JX-10 and others... all the way through the current Jupiter-X. There is literally zero reason it should work this way, and it really hamstrings a crucial part of this synth...
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I find the biggest weakness of OB-X8 is the preset saving and management. I would love to have an online manager similar to Novation's Components app/website. They did such a good job building a framework for managing devices, including firmware updates, preset management, etc.
The SoundTower editor is just not working out for me. I keep buying their editors hoping they will get better but feels like they are just not so strong at the whole UI design and workflow thing. This type of tool really is something that Sequential / Oberheim ought to own in house. This tool could also be used to trigger calibrations, keep track of administrative stuff like this so that you know what you have installed and when. Also, it's a great way to distribute preset collections for users. This is one of my favorite aspects of the Peak/Summit experience. So many great sounds, instantly installed to device from a well designed website.
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I find the biggest weakness of OB-X8 is the preset saving and management. I would love to have an online manager similar to Novation's Components app/website. They did such a good job building a framework for managing devices, including firmware updates, preset management, etc.
The SoundTower editor is just not working out for me. I keep buying their editors hoping they will get better but feels like they are just not so strong at the whole UI design and workflow thing. This type of tool really is something that Sequential / Oberheim ought to own in house. This tool could also be used to trigger calibrations, keep track of administrative stuff like this so that you know what you have installed and when. Also, it's a great way to distribute preset collections for users. This is one of my favorite aspects of the Peak/Summit experience. So many great sounds, instantly installed to device from a well designed website.
I disagree. Let them focus on synsethizers and let some software company worry about the librarian, e.g.
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Sorry if someone already mentioned this but can we get MPE please? Really missing this from my OB-6, i just figured it would something added at some point...
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Sorry if someone already mentioned this but can we get MPE please? Really missing this from my OB-6, i just figured it would something added at some point...
This a blasphemous request.
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Two bugs to address:
-there is a volume discrepancy of about 1 dB between the voice cards, apparently this is know and being worked on.
-also, I am getting some undesirable oscillator phase locking/syncing occasionally (on voices where oscs are basically in perfect unison). It's easy to "break" with the slightest amount of detune so I wonder if there is a way to set a global minimum detune value to keep from happening. It's not something that ever happened on the old OBs and shouldn't here.
Has this ever been solved? Thanks
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Anyone know what the progress is on the next update? I know it was talked about on gearspace that a lot of features requested would be worked on but it’s been quite some time… cheers
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Anyone know what the progress is on the next update? I know it was talked about on gearspace that a lot of features requested would be worked on but it’s been quite some time… cheers
Been wondering this myself
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I don't use the aftertouch often, but when I tried it I found it unusable even with the curve 1 setting (less sensitive). It's either not enough modulation or too much. Unless there is something that I missed, perhaps?
If not then:
Firmware revision request: I wish there was a way to set the maximum amount of modulation of the aftertouch.
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I don't use the aftertouch often, but when I tried it I found it unusable even with the curve 1 setting (less sensitive). It's either not enough modulation or too much. Unless there is something that I missed, perhaps?
If not then:
Firmware revision request: I wish there was a way to set the maximum amount of modulation of the aftertouch.
With firmware v1.1.1.0 there is a page 2 setting (or two?) to vary aftertouch amount.
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With firmware v1.1.1.0 there is a page 2 setting (or two?) to vary aftertouch amount.
Thanks for pointing this out to me! I have the latest firmware installed, and it is there indeed. I missed it in the user manual. Silly me.
One thing I didn't see in there is if you want the OB-X8 to power on with the last patch you were using, simply press Globals 2 times before turning the synth off (the OB6 is the same).
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Current wants:
- Arp beat divisions
- BPM sync'd LFOs
- Second the request to have a super fast LFO mode for very high audio rate filter modulation and/or have a fast mode for the Page 2 settings that makes the LFO run at the frequency of the key pressed divided by 4 (why not have an option to make it divided by 1? :))
- Osc 1 freq, Osc 2 freq, or both as polyphonic aftertouch destinations. We know that per voice pitch mod exists due to polyphonic portamento that can target 1 or both oscs. Amplitude would be a nice poly AT destination as well. Not sure if there's anything else possible on a per voice basis. Probably not. Maybe mod depth of triangle X-Mod?
- Level control for sawtooth X-Mod depth
- Would not be opposed to anything resembling a mod matrix :D
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Unfortunately, software/firmware development at Sequential seems to be VERY minimal.
I'm very disappointed.
The Pro3 should have had a major upgrade by now. Boo.
(Yes, Oberheim is a different company/name/division.)
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I don't use the aftertouch often, but when I tried it I found it unusable even with the curve 1 setting (less sensitive). It's either not enough modulation or too much. Unless there is something that I missed, perhaps?
I think this is the keyboard(?) [mechanical]
Aftertouch seems to be an off/on thing.
There is not a 'gradient'. That would cost a fortune, and only happens in the poly-aftertouch keyboards.
(Technically, I get it.)
I don't trust the after-touch "curves".
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I think I've just discovered a bug in the main LFO speed. When the Filter Envelope reaches the sustain stage, the LFO speeds up a little, and when it goes into the release stage the LFO returns to its initial speed. The Mod 2 Env-LFO Spd parameter is set to OFF.
Very puzzling.
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I think I've just discovered a bug in the main LFO speed. When the Filter Envelope reaches the sustain stage, the LFO speeds up a little, and when it goes into the release stage the LFO returns to its initial speed. The Mod 2 Env-LFO Spd parameter is set to OFF.
Very puzzling.
I forgot to mention that it only happens with more than 4 voices running with the LFO in OB-X/OB-Xa mode. As if the CPU is not fast enough to calculate/maintain the LFO speed whilst calculating the Attack, Decay, and Release stages of the filter envelope with more than four voices running. Maybe it's to emulate the underpowered Z80 CPU of the early machines?
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Yet another possible bug this morning. The Aftertouch Amount setting in page 2 does not affect the modulation amount when the Touch knob is set to Mod. Pressing down a key fully down always send the maximum modulation amount even with Aftertouch Amount in page 2 set to zero.
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Sorry if someone already mentioned this but can we get MPE please? Really missing this from my OB-6, i just figured it would something added at some point...
This a blasphemous request.
As an Expressive-E Osmose owner looking for a poly analog synth to pair my Osmose with. The OBX8 desktop almost ticks all the boxes. So I sincerely ask why is MPE or the ability to receive it a "blasphemous request"
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It is a useful request and given the hardwired mod matrix, it will be of very limited use. Personally, I can see the appeal of per channel/voice pitch (X) and AT (Z) for filter cut-off and that would be as far as you could go with OB-X8 if it was able to interpret MPE MIDI.
For the rest, synths with a flexible mod matrix (eg Hydrasynth, 3rd Wave) will be a better fit for this special purpose. Unfortunately, the Prophet 12, which also comes with such a mod matrix, would benefit the most from MPE but it is no longer supported. Hopefully, Sequential will one day fill this void.
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Quick update: Someone named Sally from Focusrite/Oberheim/Sequential support has replied to me and confirmed the software/firmware bug I’ve mentionned before about the aftertouch not working right for controling the modulation. The software team are working on it. So stay tuned for an eventual upcoming update (no date estimate given).
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Like to add a second feature request. Be able to save global tuning per patch. Global tuning is global as it is now and per patch tuning in page 2.
I second this request. I've been experimenting with the alternate tunings and while I love the feel that some of them create while I'm improvising, non-equal temperament is about as application-specific as features get. Ideally, I'd like to be able to have a bank of patches that each utilise an alternate tuning of my choice. This would facilitate experimentation, and do away with the necessity afterwards to return to the Global menu to reset the X8 to 12-tone.
On a related note, I have to commend whoever it was in Sequential that collated and implemented these 64 tuning schemes. It seems like a real labour of love and I for one really appreciate it, because they're fascinating to explore.
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It still blows my mind that a synth this expensive doesn’t have clock divisions on it’s arpeggiator.
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Not sure if was here but the falling saw LFO (square+s/h) and rising saw LFO (sine+square) has to be swapped to correspond to their symbols on the panel
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Not sure if was here but the falling saw LFO (square+s/h) and rising saw LFO (sine+square) has to be swapped to correspond to their symbols on the panel
Hmm? They do exactly what is shown on the silkscreening when modulating something on my OB-X8.