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OBERHEIM => OB-X8 => Topic started by: phaedra23 on May 15, 2022, 01:31:28 AM
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Hey guys,
what do you think, will Oberheim bring out a desktop Version of the OBX8 as Prophet 5/10?
That will be very ineresting for me, because I have a lot of good keyboard synths, and I need space in my studio! So I will wait, probably in next winter namm show??
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Hey guys,
what do you think, will Oberheim bring out a desktop Version of the OBX8 as Prophet 5/10?
That will be very ineresting for me, because I have a lot of good keyboard synths, and I need space in my studio! So I will wait, probably in next winter namm show??
I'm in the same position, another keyboard won't work for me so I need a desktop. The Prophet 5/10 modules were announced about 3 months after release of the keyboard, so I'm guessing Aug or Sept for the announcement. I'm hoping the desktop will have mini-paddles as I'd like to try them out.
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Hey guys,
what do you think, will Oberheim bring out a desktop Version of the OBX8 as Prophet 5/10?
That will be very ineresting for me, because I have a lot of good keyboard synths, and I need space in my studio! So I will wait, probably in next winter namm show??
I'm in the same position, another keyboard won't work for me so I need a desktop. The Prophet 5/10 modules were announced about 3 months after release of the keyboard, so I'm guessing Aug or Sept for the announcement. I'm hoping the desktop will have mini-paddles as I'd like to try them out.
Just remember the chip shortage/supply chain stuff.
It might 6 to 12 months to get your synth! (If you want it to work correctly.)
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Just remember the chip shortage/supply chain stuff.
It might 6 to 12 months to get your synth! (If you want it to work correctly.)
Very possible.. but I have plenty of other hardware to hold me over in the meantime. Maybe I'll splurge my annual budget on a Super 6 or something until the desktop version comes along... I can be a very patient person :)
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Yes, for me it will be worth to wait for a desktop version of OBX8. Hope for a better price! (800-1000$ cheaper???) and probably extended features (more cv gate in outs, MPE, or Poly AT)!
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Yes, for me it will be worth to wait for a desktop version of OBX8. Hope for a better price! (800-1000$ cheaper???) and probably extended features (more cv gate in outs, MPE, or Poly AT)!
It will need to be in the range of $1,700 less than the keyboard version for me to bite. I doubt they would sell many desktop units if priced near the $4k mark.
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Yes, for me it will be worth to wait for a desktop version of OBX8. Hope for a better price! (800-1000$ cheaper???) and probably extended features (more cv gate in outs, MPE, or Poly AT)!
It will need to be in the range of $1,700 less than the keyboard version for me to bite. I doubt they would sell many desktop units if priced near the $4k mark.
probably some dealers could make special offers on black friday...
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Looks a fantastic product excepting perhaps the 8 note polyphony (ideally 10 for stacking). I'd drop £3-3.2k on a desktop - no chance of £4.7k on another master keyboard - for space, rig and value reasons.
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Looks a fantastic product excepting perhaps the 8 note polyphony (ideally 10 for stacking). I'd drop £3-3.2k on a desktop - no chance of £4.7k on another master keyboard - for space, rig and value reasons.
I've come to love the 10 voices of the P10 though I have no real complaints about 8.. especially since OBs have a thick sound. I can say I wish for flexibility in the bi-timbral configurations -- allocating 3 voices to the left side of the keyboard and 5 to the right for example would be nice. I saw Marcus say unison is all voices in mono, I certainly hope that can be thinned out to as little as one mono voice like Sequentials synths.
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Looks a fantastic product excepting perhaps the 8 note polyphony (ideally 10 for stacking). I'd drop £3-3.2k on a desktop - no chance of £4.7k on another master keyboard - for space, rig and value reasons.
I've come to love the 10 voices of the P10 though I have no real complaints about 8.. especially since OBs have a thick sound. I can say I wish for flexibility in the bi-timbral configurations -- allocating 3 voices to the left side of the keyboard and 5 to the right for example would be nice. I saw Marcus say unison is all voices in mono, I certainly hope that can be thinned out to as little as one mono voice like Sequentials synths.
I thought I heard someone in some of the Superbooth videos say that unison voice count will be a Page 2 Parameter... that would be really nice.
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Looks a fantastic product excepting perhaps the 8 note polyphony (ideally 10 for stacking). I'd drop £3-3.2k on a desktop - no chance of £4.7k on another master keyboard - for space, rig and value reasons.
I've come to love the 10 voices of the P10 though I have no real complaints about 8.. especially since OBs have a thick sound. I can say I wish for flexibility in the bi-timbral configurations -- allocating 3 voices to the left side of the keyboard and 5 to the right for example would be nice. I saw Marcus say unison is all voices in mono, I certainly hope that can be thinned out to as little as one mono voice like Sequentials synths.
I thought I heard someone in some of the Superbooth videos say that unison voice count will be a Page 2 Parameter... that would be really nice.
Indeed. It sounds like the display may add a lot of flexibility to the page 2 concept.. Maybe even a page 3 :)
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They will deny it. They will say "we can't talk about future development of products." But I have heard all of this before, and now I will wait contentedly...
btw-the keyboard does respond to PolyAT, so I imagine a desktop module would also.
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Hey guys,
what do you think, will Oberheim bring out a desktop Version of the OBX8 as Prophet 5/10?
That will be very ineresting for me, because I have a lot of good keyboard synths, and I need space in my studio! So I will wait, probably in next winter namm show??
I was at NAMM and spoke with the Oberheim sales peps and from the conversation a few cool stuff is in the pipeline but first is a desktop version. I hope it's true.
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I was considering a (potential) desktop when the OB-X return rumors started floating, but it may be out of my price anyways. I own a well-serviced OB-8 with Fatar keybed and I just don't think I could part with it for the OB-X8 keys.
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I've wondered if Dave envisioned the OB-X8 as a module at all, or whether he intended to wait and see how this synth fared before developing a version for customers who lacked room for the full keyboard. I wonder not only about supply chain issues but about development questions now that Dave is no longer here.
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I've wondered if Dave envisioned the OB-X8 as a module at all, or whether he intended to wait and see how this synth fared before developing a version for customers who lacked room for the full keyboard. I wonder not only about supply chain issues but about development questions now that Dave is no longer here.
I don't want to pretend to know what goes into creating a desktop version of a synth, but I'd think once the synth electronics have been designed, putting it in a smaller form factor is not particularly challenging, and is a way to achieve higher sales by reaching a wider audience because sales of a 5 octave synth is always going to be somewhat challenged by the fact not everyone has room for another one. So for business reasons I'd think Focusrite would want to release a module version for the same reason Dave did (and the same reason so many other keyboards eventually find their way into desktop form). Supply chain issues and such... well that's anyones guess. But I'd think Focusrite has a lot of experience and purchasing power that Dave and Tom would have had individually, and other folks are shipping their synths so I don't see why not.
Maybe wishful thinking on my part.
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A desktop version would be great. But for those who would like it to be less expensive than the keyboard version, have you looked at the prices for a brand new OB6 Desktop unit lately (around $2400 USD)? So I would assume that an OBX-8 Desktop would be more expensive than that. Probably around the $4000 USD mark, since the keyboard version is a thousand US dollars more.
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A desktop version would be great. But for those who would like it to be less expensive than the keyboard version, have you looked at the prices for a brand new OB6 Desktop unit lately (around $2400 USD)? So I would assume that an OBX-8 Desktop would be more expensive than that. Probably around the $4000 USD mark, since the keyboard version is a thousand US dollars more.
Perhaps.. My guess for an appropriate price point for a desktop OB-X8 would be in the $3k-$3,200 range USD... this is based on 8 voices and assumes similar manufacturing costs to the rev 4, basing that on current desktop prices of Prophet 5 @ $2,600 and Prophet 10 @ $3,400
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No space for a keyboard, so zero chance of buying one. Need the desktop!
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I would gladly buy a desktop version because of lack of space. :)
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I would also buy a desktop version if they become available.
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I'd buy a desktop version as well. The keyboard is too big for me.
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Would happily purchase a desktop version. Between Pro 2, NL4 KB, and Opsix, I have no room for such a massive board as the OBX8 KB, but oh do I want that sound. ;D
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I think a desktop version is inevitable. The question in my mind is more whether it will be offered at a fair price point.
I think $3,200 US feels about right... much more than that and I believe it will be a non-starter for many.
I've noticed that the OB-X8, like many Oberheim products before it, is being viewed as more of a luxury than the "necessity status" the Prophet 5/10 became for many musicians. I believe there are two factors at play there: the price tag of course, but also the range of possible sounds. I've seen owners of the OB-X8 describe it as a "one trick pony", and I do sometimes feel that way about my OB-6 when I compare it to the Prophet line. Oberheim is a GREAT sound, but I would compare it (in certain ways) to a saxophone... it's an amazing sounding instrument but you don't necessarily want it producing all sounds in a track or even necessarily have it present on every track. I get the same feeling about he OB-X8.
So, because of this luxury item status and lessened versatility, I think there is a category of buyers willing to pay $5k for not only the sound but for the Oberheim experience. Like many (included myself), they've always wanted an OBX/Xa but couldn't justify many prices, but unlike myself, also care about the full Oberheim exprerience including the paddles and large keyboard profile. Then there are those like me who already have an OB6, who do want the sound of the OB-X8, but don't have room for another huge keyboard, and are simply not going to pay $3.5-$4k or whatever for a desktop unit that requires some level of menu diving to access all the features.
While crossing my fingers the asking price comes in at a reasonable level, I'm also looking forward to seeing what Sequential has cooking, and I must admit that the UDO Super 6 desktop does, at times, keep tugging at my wallet.
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Anyone heard any more credible scuttlebutt about a desktop version coming? My optimistic mind had predicted January as the potential announcement for this, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
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Anyone heard any more credible scuttlebutt about a desktop version coming? My optimistic mind had predicted January as the potential announcement for this, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
You know I think because a lot of the team that work on Sequential instruments also work on the Oberheim line as well, there might not be the bandwidth to focus on two things at one time...nor from a marketing perspective they likely don't want to announce two different instruments at the same time in case one gets overshadowed by another.
That's just my guess.
It also makes me wonder what the Oberheim line actually has planned in the future. Sequential I can sort of pin point and guess but Oberheim? I dunno. I would like to see SEM stuff come back but I don't think that's in the cards....and if it was it would be at a pretty ridiculous price point.
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Anyone heard any more credible scuttlebutt about a desktop version coming? My optimistic mind had predicted January as the potential announcement for this, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
You know I think because a lot of the team that work on Sequential instruments also work on the Oberheim line as well, there might not be the bandwidth to focus on two things at one time...nor from a marketing perspective they likely don't want to announce two different instruments at the same time in case one gets overshadowed by another.
That's just my guess.
It also makes me wonder what the Oberheim line actually has planned in the future. Sequential I can sort of pin point and guess but Oberheim? I dunno. I would like to see SEM stuff come back but I don't think that's in the cards....and if it was it would be at a pretty ridiculous price point.
I was hoping the desktop version of the OB-X8 would follow the approximate timeline of desktop announcements for Sequential stuff, but I guess with Dave's passing, supply chain woes and other factors it's anyone's guess. I do think it will be a case of opportunity foregone if they never announce a desktop, because there are many like me where physical space is a deal breaking proposition.
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Anyone heard any more credible scuttlebutt about a desktop version coming? My optimistic mind had predicted January as the potential announcement for this, but that doesn't appear to be the case.
You know I think because a lot of the team that work on Sequential instruments also work on the Oberheim line as well, there might not be the bandwidth to focus on two things at one time...nor from a marketing perspective they likely don't want to announce two different instruments at the same time in case one gets overshadowed by another.
That's just my guess.
It also makes me wonder what the Oberheim line actually has planned in the future. Sequential I can sort of pin point and guess but Oberheim? I dunno. I would like to see SEM stuff come back but I don't think that's in the cards....and if it was it would be at a pretty ridiculous price point.
I was hoping the desktop version of the OB-X8 would follow the approximate timeline of desktop announcements for Sequential stuff, but I guess with Dave's passing, supply chain woes and other factors it's anyone's guess. I do think it will be a case of opportunity foregone if they never announce a desktop, because there are many like me where physical space is a deal breaking proposition.
Honestly, I think we'll see a Matrix-16 before we see an OBX8 desktop.
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Honestly, I think we'll see a Matrix-16 before we see an OBX8 desktop.
I've considered the possibility that an Xpander reissue might preclude the release of an OB-X8 module, simply because if generating the excitement around a new reissue is seen as more profitable than creating an OB-X8 desktop unit then the powers that be might make it so.
However, I would guess that the OB-X8 desktop makes much more sense at first, in the pursuit of profits, because they know not everyone has room for the massive box of the OB-X8 keyboard. And the cost of putting the existing guts in a smaller box is much cheaper than all the R&D and new code that needs to go into creating an entirely new product. The OB-X8 desktop will allow them to reach many more buyers utilizing the investments they've already made. I'm sure Dave would have stopped doing module versions of each of his synths if they weren't profitable endeavors.
But yeah an Xpander desktop reissue wouldn't be a bad thing, either... as long as it wasn't as freaking massive in size (for a module) as the original.
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Yesssss! how I expected, the Desktop Version of X8 will come out, will waiting for test, and my wish is to support, Poly AT or-and MPE. Waiting for the tests. But I am sure I will order it!