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SEQUENTIAL/DSI => Prophet => Prophet 12 => Topic started by: Sacred Synthesis on October 06, 2015, 08:14:54 AM
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This thread is for music made primarily with the Prophet 12 Keyboard or Module. There has been a scarcity for quite a while now of online recordings made with this beautiful monster. More P12 pieces, please!
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Quite a few tracks featuring my P12M on my Soundcloud that i posted in the other forum
Most recent one is this
https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/yawnloop
I just made a playlist of the tracks that are entirely P12
https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/sets/prophet-12
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not really music, not really a song... but it's audio recorded from a prophet12!
https://duffegan.bandcamp.com/album/sacra
https://duffegan.bandcamp.com/album/answer-to-job
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This video is definitely worth listening to. It shows a side of the Prophet 12 that precious few demonstrations bother to cover. It does sound good to my ears and I'm happy to hear that the P12 has this much potential in this sonic domain. I do wish the program had incorporated the B Output option and had panned layers, though, because it would have greatly enhanced the sound.
In my opinion, both the Poly Evolver Keyboard with a rack and Prophet '08 Keyboard with a module could positively surpass this patch, in terms of depth, richness, and animation. It was a good challenge, but the older instruments still have it.
What I'd like to hear next is a Prophet 12 Keyboard with a module, each panned to opposite sides. If I go in the Prophet 12 direction, this would be my intention.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3La5LE3kvA
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What I'd like to hear next is a Prophet 12 Keyboard with a module, each panned to opposite sides. If I go in the Prophet 12 direction, this would be my intention.
Remember that Prophet 12 with its DC modulation source allows for stereo panning the voices without use of the Output B option. In other words you don't need both keyboard and module for stereo effects.
What a keyboard/module combo will give you is the option of stereo panning two stacked sounds which gives a total of four filers and sixteen oscillators per key. Or twenty oscillators if you use the suboscillator too! Or it will allow you to stereo pan twelve voices. Offer of the week: only $5200! ;-)
Only downside is that it will not change the overall tone of the instrument which is root cause for me wanting both analog and digital oscillators in a voice architecture.
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Yes, I know that, but the keyboard-module combination creates a superior 12-voice stereo field that doesn't require modulation, and has other advantages as well. It's an ideal in the process of designing sounds to have individual units in front of you. It also allows you to differently process each instrument, which deepens the field even more. For example, it's quite a stunning effect to use a faint sound with lots of reverb as a sort of musical backdrop to the main sound. I suppose this is why Dave bothered to add the B ouputs.
I haven't played a Prophet 12 myself, but I've listened over and over to all the P12 recordings on YouTube and Soundcloud, and not one has struck me for its stereo depth or even resembled my idea. I usually hear panning, which is not at all what I have in mind. The above recording is another example of this. I'm after a natural sounding stereo/spatial effect - a wideness and a depth - and an instrument jumping from side to side is anything but natural. To me, it's actually distracting. And although it's true - pairing an instrument and a module still leaves you with the same instrument - nevertheless, it can unexpectedly improve the overall tone. That's what I've found with the Poly Evolver and Prophet '08.
I've also experimented with three MIDI-ed Prophet '08s. The master is centered, while the slaves are panned to opposite sides. I compared the results with two Prophet '08s panned and was quite surprised by the results. Even monophonic patches sounded far superior.
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Here's a sincere question coming from some one who's never played a Prophet 12. The last two posts above duplicate an exchange that I've had many times with folks. I'm always told that the B Outputs are not needed to create a stereo field with the P12, that it can be done with modulation or the stereo spread; and I then respond as I did above.
Thus far, I haven't heard a single recording of the P12 that used anything like a deep stereo spread, and that includes the video I posted above. Panning - notes jumping back and forth from side to side - is not even close to what I have in mind. So, if modulation achieves a deep stereo spread, then what purpose does the B Output feature serve, other than what I've said above?
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A little ambient P12 number for your consideration.
https://soundcloud.com/makes_synth_to_me/jazzient-the-ride-home (https://soundcloud.com/makes_synth_to_me/jazzient-the-ride-home)
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A little ambient P12 number for your consideration.
https://soundcloud.com/makes_synth_to_me/jazzient-the-ride-home (https://soundcloud.com/makes_synth_to_me/jazzient-the-ride-home)
Wow - I love this P12 tune, and even joined this forum to say this ;)
Martin
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Here's a piece I put together a while ago, but only got around to posting last week. Recently my P12 has gotten a lot of use at home, at gigs and in the studio. In the last couple of months I got to be a part of two album projects where the Prophet was able to fill a variety of roles - from atmospheres to front of the mix leads. It's been really sweet!
I intend to write a follow up post talking about a couple of these sessions in more detail. Once the mixing is all done I'll be sure to share that too.
Also note that I'm not much of a filmmaker so my apologies for any quirks of production :).
https://vimeo.com/146147411
-Adam
http://madebyrobotsmusic.com
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Great tracks, AdamPloof & Makes_Synth_To_Me! :)
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I have produced a new demo for a bank of 99 patches i have available to purchase
https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/sets/dsi-prophet-12-patches-by
Patches can be purchased here
http://bobswanspatches.byethost3.com/Prophet%2012%20Patches.html
Enjoy :)
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Really nice sounds, Bob Swan.
Here is a live improv performance I did with the P12, Infinity Looper, and Bigsky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IzyHt-VY24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IzyHt-VY24
Great stuff! I am on the third listening now. The BigSky is on my drool list for sure!
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This was live from an ancient church with a backing track recorded in another ancient church (all originally in quadraphonic) using only Cassandra (my prophet 12) and an old Akai multitrack recorder. My only audience was a random German tourist (he loved it).
https://soundcloud.com/andy-15-3/01-st-beunos-clynnog-fawr
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Here's a sincere question coming from some one who's never played a Prophet 12. The last two posts above duplicate an exchange that I've had many times with folks. I'm always told that the B Outputs are not needed to create a stereo field with the P12, that it can be done with modulation or the stereo spread; and I then respond as I did above.
Thus far, I haven't heard a single recording of the P12 that used anything like a deep stereo spread, and that includes the video I posted above. Panning - notes jumping back and forth from side to side - is not even close to what I have in mind. So, if modulation achieves a deep stereo spread, then what purpose does the B Output feature serve, other than what I've said above?
For starters I am running my P12 in Quadraphonic - stereo A plus stereo B = four channels and with some canny modulation I can send sounds in any direction. There must be any number of possible spatial configurations. I toyed with Left A being the same sound as Right B so I could modulate from Right A to Left A/Right B to Left B which let me smoothly transition between a much greater range of sounds than before. I believe that the tiny manual just touches on the surface of what can be achieved with this synth. A lot of folks seem to be interested in what old sounds can be recreated, but my preference is to push boundaries. I recommend two stereo output pedals (for A and B) which enables blending of the two voices.
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Any possibility you could post a recording here? Again, I've never actually heard the effect I'm describing.
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I finished a track today in which I, apart from piano, used nothing but the Prophet 12 and a BigSky. Some mixing going on of course but no additional instruments or samples other than the aforementioned piano.
https://soundcloud.com/denstorabilen/pano (https://soundcloud.com/denstorabilen/pano)
I figured it would fit nicely in this thread.
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Improvisation done when I first got the p12, was'nt really going so save it but what the heck..(the two newest tracks probably got some p12 in them too but mixed with some roland fa)
https://soundcloud.com/nikwal/prognosticator-twelve
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I finished a track today in which I, apart from piano, used nothing but the Prophet 12 and a BigSky. Some mixing going on of course but no additional instruments or samples other than the aforementioned piano.
https://soundcloud.com/denstorabilen/pano (https://soundcloud.com/denstorabilen/pano)
I figured it would fit nicely in this thread.
Really enjoyed this - well done that man! 8)
Martin
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Thanks you yewtreemagic!
Improvisation done when I first got the p12, was'nt really going so save it but what the heck..(the two newest tracks probably got some p12 in them too but mixed with some roland fa)
https://soundcloud.com/nikwal/prognosticator-twelve
Nice! Very relaxing music in general.
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Improvisation done when I first got the p12, was'nt really going so save it but what the heck..(the two newest tracks probably got some p12 in them too but mixed with some roland fa)
https://soundcloud.com/nikwal/prognosticator-twelve
The spaciousness and timbres used in this reminds me of Steve Hauschildt a bit. Nice stuff.
I finished a track today in which I, apart from piano, used nothing but the Prophet 12 and a BigSky. Some mixing going on of course but no additional instruments or samples other than the aforementioned piano.
https://soundcloud.com/denstorabilen/pano (https://soundcloud.com/denstorabilen/pano)
HESpook, were the drum sounds used also made by the P12?
Cool tune.
-Adam
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Yes! :)
I've forcing myself to make the drums too as a way to get out of my comfort zone and explore new timbres. These ended up a bit bright in my opinion but didn't realize until I had already told myself that I was done.
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Hi,
Here are some tracks with all the synth parts made with the P'12 :)
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/dawn
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/interlude
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/pulse-prophet-12-rework
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Hey All,
The Le Duo, a band that I play with, is currently releasing an album that was recorded last fall. Despite the name it's actually a four piece band though they have gone through many different formats over the years. This album, called Boogaloo for Improvisers, is quite a bit of a departure from some of the earlier free jazz experiments and goes in more funky directions.
Anyways, I played a Rhodes piano and a Prophet 12 exclusively throughout the project and I figure some of you might find it interesting hear the synth in an ensemble context. Check out the album and if you like it consider purchasing it - our band leader would be psyched to see people from outside of the area that are into it :)
If any of you live in or around Burlington, VT we'll be having an album release party at the beginning of March. Send me a message if you're interested in stopping by and I can give you the details.
give a listen here: http://theleduovt.bandcamp.com/
Thanks,
Adam
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Here is one i never got around to posting, everything (Even the drums and percussion) on this is the P12 Module
I am pretty sure most of them are the built in presets mixed with some of the patches that have been released by this fine community. Enjoy
https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/bob-swans-prophet-12-demo-track
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lil jam that I just did :p
I found out that I like to create patch such as brass, strings, pads, bell, leads for funk or pop music (like 80's vibe, and for dance music as well, not edm though.)
are there any tips to add warmths?
I'm thinking to sell p12 and get p6 or ob-6 but I don't want 49 keys, it has to be at least 61 keys...
p6 and ob-6 seems easier to program those patch easily.
https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/prophet-12-jamming
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Why not get a Prophet-6 Module and control it with your Prophet 12 Keyboard?
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Why not get a Prophet-6 Module and control it with your Prophet 12 Keyboard?
hope I had enough money to buy p6 and honestly I don't like module somehow :( I just like to have a keyboard.
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I can appreciate that. It's so much simpler and tidier to have only keyboard synthesizers with everything under the hood. The module approach is an effective means of getting the exact capabilities you want, but it certainly has its complications.
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lil jam that I just did :p
I found out that I like to create patch such as brass, strings, pads, bell, leads for funk or pop music (like 80's vibe, and for dance music as well, not edm though.)
are there any tips to add warmths?
Some basic tips
- using PWM
- using the "slop" parameter (~10)
- adding a light overdrive (~4/5)
- using the HPF with a low cuftoff and heavy resonnance
- using the low pass filter on the delay lines
Here are some demos I made with the P'12
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/sets/synth-sounds
The brass were easy to program, pads too, for the bells you now have the linear FM feature, the strings sounds are more tricky because you have to make a good use of the delay lines and LFO to create a decent ensemble chorus effect (string machines are generaly very basic synths with huge chorus).
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some rock & roll with P12
https://soundcloud.com/torpe-2/05-drone
https://soundcloud.com/torpe-2/02-target
https://soundcloud.com/torpe-2/04-vinte-mil
https://soundcloud.com/torpe-2/06-domingo
different project
https://soundcloud.com/filhosdorockost/cassete
https://soundcloud.com/filhosdorockost/pouca-luz
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Prophet takes the chord stabs
https://soundcloud.com/raphiegrooves/so-far-away-from-me-avonlea-montague-cryophonik-raphie-grooves-remix
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Some Prophet 12 music (not mine).
Sodium Lights by Miguel d'Oliveira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEd7DWb1tEI
Demo by Stéphane Schott: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wvzRCFI4kg
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That was the first time I'd heard that piece by Stéphane Schott. It's a pretty cool example of the P12 sounding quite vintage.
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The Stéphane Schott piece especially on the soundcloud link with the drums ( https://soundcloud.com/lyynk/ecosphere?in=lyynk/sets/playlist-electro-electro-rock ) is a pretty good demo of the P12, shows its width.
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Wow, the stereo spread is much better on Soundcloud. It makes quite a difference to the overall sound.
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Since this topic was brought up in another thread recently - I found this demo (almost a year old) of the Prophet 12 doing analog style sounds. Sorry if it has been posted before but this is the best demo in this style that I've found so far (imo).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az3_p_0z6vU
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The creator of that video added this comment:
"Demo of 'how analog the Prophet 12 can be'."
You see, this is the argument that isn't supposed to be made, and yet, Prophet 12 owners make it all the time. They're inviting the discussion, and that discussion always ends up considering exactly how well the Prophet 12 does traditional analog sounds. Of course, the discussion makes perfect sense and is ultimately unavoidable, but we're all going to have different opinions about the end results.
Personally, I think the instrument does a fairly good job in that video. Fairly good. The problem is, that music is light years away from my own, so it doesn't give me a chance to make a meaningful judgment. I would prefer to hear long sustained notes and chords so as to be able to assess the character, and a large dose of stereo layered patches. Take, for example, this demonstration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TTRBsEJI4
Now this video gives the ear plenty of time to listen carefully and make a judgment. Nothing against the creator, with whom I get along well, but this is precisely the sort of thin gritty quality that chases me away from the Prophet 12. Pardon by bluntness, but in this case, a Prophet '08 could blow the Prophet 12 out of the water. So, where there's common sonic ground between these two instruments - for me - the Prophet '08 wins every time.
I would add this video as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxk5upl5-X0
This is an excellent demo of the instrument, and there are many fine analog sounds in it. But my point is, the general character is quite average. To my ears, it sounds on the stale side, in part, because of the constant mono field that is used, even though there is some panning. But jumping from right to left is not a deep stereo field.
As much as I try, the best attempts of Prophet 12 users to prove the instrument is superb for standard analog sound creation only convince me of just the opposite. I've listened to hours and hours of demonstrations, all in an attempt to convince myself of their view. This is why I'm hoping for another flagship poly synth from DSI, if not this year, then then perhaps the next.
I think DSI should retain a bit more from their past. The first generation of DSI polyphonic synthesizers had a quality that I just don't hear in the second generation. Perhaps it entailed a certain roughness and imperfection, but the end result was personality and presence. The Poly Evolver, for example - in spite of all its flaws - possesses a living breathing character that makes it seem more like an ensemble of musicians, rather than an ice cold inanimate electronic gadget. DSI should revive the hardwired oscillator configuration. (Stereo chorus is no substitute for it.) Never mind that they've done it before and therefore don't want to repeat it. Yes, they did it before, and it was stupendous. Restore it, not as a configuration of modulation, but as a simple parameter with degrees, as on the Poly Evolver.
Just one man's opinion.
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I have to say Sacred Synthesis that I think I begin to appreciate your point of view. I am a huge fan of the P12 because I want to do new stuff. As I did with my (now knackered) DX7 I always want to make unique sounds, and the P12 is fantastic for that. I was so pleased with results that I had not focussed on the traditional sounds which sounded OK to me but uninspiring, like most of the presets. Over the last 2 years I have listened to your examples and can detect some difference in the qualities of P12 versus older sounds, which does not affect me, but I can imagine would annoy more traditional synth fans.
I used to think you were being too picky whereas I now realise that we are both paying attention to different subtleties from different perspectives. Thank you for broadening my outlook :)
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Just one man's opinion.
You are preaching for at least one convinced! ;)
I have to agree with Chaparral. One better consider Prophet 12 as a machine for mostly digital sounds with a little Curtis polish. Had it just had analog filter feedback for tone shaping and analog oscillators for extra sonic foundation. I do get the instrument designers artistic vision but I also disagree somewhat with it.
This is what da robot had to say on the topic:
http://forum.davesmithinstruments.com/index.php/topic,875.msg10430.html#new
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I have to say Sacred Synthesis that I think I begin to appreciate your point of view. I am a huge fan of the P12 because I want to do new stuff. As I did with my (now knackered) DX7 I always want to make unique sounds, and the P12 is fantastic for that. I was so pleased with results that I had not focussed on the traditional sounds which sounded OK to me but uninspiring, like most of the presets. Over the last 2 years I have listened to your examples and can detect some difference in the qualities of P12 versus older sounds, which does not affect me, but I can imagine would annoy more traditional synth fans.
I used to think you were being too picky whereas I now realise that we are both paying attention to different subtleties from different perspectives. Thank you for broadening my outlook :)
Thanks for that very honest and even humble post, Chaparral. After thinking about it, I had intended when I got back home tonight to delete my previous post if there were no comments following it, because - believe it or not - I hate raining on someone else's party. I don't mean to criticize an instrument that other people enjoy, and that includes DSI themselves, who are naturally and justifiably quite proud of their instruments. But it seems impossible to dismiss the subject, since it's a natural one and unavoidable on a DSI synth forum, and especially in light of the fact that other people continue to post such videos and make such claims. My main interest is not to put down anything or anyone, but only to establish a correct assessment of an instrument that cannot but attract me, if for no other reason, due to its size. Being such a tremendous fan of DSI synthesizers, and loving large instruments like the Prophet 12, why else would I speak negatively about it? It's my loss, that I don't care for it.
It might be obvious now why I would be interested in discussions about future DSI synthesizers, including a possible successor to the Prophet '08.
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I have to agree with Chaparral. One better consider Prophet 12 as a machine for mostly digital sounds with a little Curtis polish. Had it just had analog filter feedback for tone shaping and analog oscillators for extra sonic foundation. I do get the instrument designers artistic vision but I also disagree somewhat with it.
There's no shame in this. It is what it is. The Prophet 12 is great at some things but not at other things, just like my Prophet '08 and every other synthesizer. I only wish the claims made about it were more accurate and helpful to those of us who have had to assess it from afar.
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Little Demo of the Prophet-12. Drums from TR-8, no external effects, just the machines.
http://soundcloud.com/lesartsnouveaux/p12-the-joy-of-12
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Here is a new patch demo from me, these patches all have Poly AT programmed
I will release the patch set this weekend (25th) and i will post a new demo on that day
https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/bob-swans-p12-patches-2-available-soon
Enjoy
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Here is my latest with primarily P-12. A little P-08 in the rhythm and the percussive sounds are DX-7.
Enjoy!
https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/2017-02-19-waltz
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Another new demo
https://soundcloud.com/bobswans/p12-patches-2-demo-2
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Hi all, I just finished my recording of Holst's "The Planets" suite using only my P12 module (and a touch of reverb from the Roland VS1880 recorder). I created most of the patches myself, but a couple presets were just way too cool to ignore so I tweaked them a bit and just had to use them as well ;)
I grew up with 70's prog so analog synth sounds are what I like best and my very 1st synth was a 1983 Sequential Pro One! I know many people say the P12 can't do analog, but I'm insanely happy with it's ability to produce both the fat analog that I love and the digital crazy stuff as well. With 4 OSC/4 LFO/4 env/4 delay and the modulation matrix, I really think of my P12 as the dream polyphonic modular I could never have afforded to build myself one module at a time 8)
I've uploaded my recording of "Mercury" to Soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/prophet-12-mercury?in=dennis-m-366105599/sets/prophet-12
I like to put a lot of stereo movement into my patches so listening with headphones is the best way to really hear what I'm trying to accomplish. Either way, I'd be interested in what other P12 owners think of my effort ;)
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Welle, it sounds... very 70's :D
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Welle, it sounds... very 70's :D
Thanks! That's what I like 8)
Funny, I did Pictures at an Exhibition and an album of Halloween themed classical pieces a few years ago on my Korg Radias and shared it with a pedal steel guitar playing friend. His reply was that he hated it because it sounded like those awful 70's Tomita classical adaptations. I thanked him for the compliment ;)
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@WytchCrypt- I really liked it. You developed some good sounds on the P-12. I like 70's too!
I had never really listened to Holst before. So, I listened to the whole Planets suite on Youtube. I didn't realize what I had been missing. He was definitely influenced by Wagner.
I am becoming more and more impressed with the P-12. It's capabilities are amazing.
Thanks for sharing!
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@WytchCrypt- I really liked it. You developed some good sounds on the P-12. I like 70's too!
I had never really listened to Holst before. So, I listened to the whole Planets suite on Youtube. I didn't realize what I had been missing. He was definitely influenced by Wagner.
I am becoming more and more impressed with the P-12. It's capabilities are amazing.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your kind words! After getting through the learning curve I've found that developing new P12 voices is almost as much fun as playing them 8) I think I also took it as a challenge because there are so many anti-P12 posts out on other forums who claim it can't do vintage analog sounds. I think it's a brilliant synth because it can do so many things so well and has so many mod matrix options.
Re: The Planets, other than Mars (which I knew well from King Crimson & ELP's cover versions) I had never heard any of the other pieces before recording them with the P12. It was great fun to discover them this way and I was blown away by the compositions. I'd been aware of the work forever but had no idea it was so cool! The style reminds me a lot of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition and Night on Bald Mountain along with Saint-Sens' Dance Macabre. I believe these are often referred to as "symphonic tone poems". Very cool melodies and harmonies going on all over the place with a dash of dissonance here and there to spice things up ;)
I'm always on the lookout for other similarly styled classical pieces to do a P12 adaptation on...anyone have suggestions?
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I guess you're likely to love this :-D
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-old-school-sounds-part-3
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-pads
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I guess you're likely to love this :-D
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-old-school-sounds-part-3
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-pads
Very nice. I especially like the sound on prophet-12-pads beginning at the 31 second mark ;)
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Here's an ambiant track with some P12 dirty dirty Strings.
https://soundcloud.com/baexel/tracking-clouds-by-baexel?in=baexel/sets/my-live-recorded-tracks-1
Thanks. Prophet love
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Here is a duet with guitar - Free Improv is not everyones cup of tea, but I thought some live spontaneous Prophet 12 might make a change from the other music here. https://soundcloud.com/user-408885790/id24pm-hedge-s2-t3-1345-1800
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Here is a duet with guitar - Free Improv is not everyones cup of tea, but I thought some live spontaneous Prophet 12 might make a change from the other music here. https://soundcloud.com/user-408885790/id24pm-hedge-s2-t3-1345-1800
Totally into it. A welcome bit of variety and my cup of tea indeed!
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Here is a remix of Don't Judge Me by Chris Brown.
Every sound is from P12 except Bass and EP.
https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/dont-judge-me-remix-chris-brown
have been thinking to add ob-6 or swap to p6 but I decided to keep p12 since in the mix you can't really hear the difference.. Instead of another poly synth I got Moog Sub37 which is great for Bass and now I'm really happy to have
one great poly and great mono :)
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here is another one :)
instrumental, short track
https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/p12-demo
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Just played around a bit last night... https://soundcloud.com/nikwal/slowtraingoing
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A new track with heavy P'12 use :)
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/dusk
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Very nice, Mr. Kay. I especially like the deep bass. And those strings are among the best I've heard from the Prophet 12.
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This is a recent composition for me. A lot of use of the P-12 and Pro-2. The Pro-2 is becoming my synth bass of choice. I really like its bass sounds.
The first track is the entire piece which features piano (Yamaha S-90). I isolated the DSI instruments in the second track to show how they were used. BTW, the drums are the S-90. Enjoy!
https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/piano-rhythm
https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/piano-rhythm-dsi-synths
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For those interested in somewhat wild group improvisation here's a short bit from a recent set with a band I play with called the le duo. It was recorded and filmed during a recent music festival here in Vermont that takes over the entire town where I live for a weekend. We were playing in a brewery and set up among the big brewing kettles -- a first for me :). There's not a lot of P12 in this set, but there's a little in there to whet your synth whistle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqA5mMuY5xY&feature=youtu.be
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@Adam- It was fun watching your video. You had some interesting sounds on the P-12. I especially liked that you were playing a REAL Fender Rhodes piano rather than a sample. It looked like it is in nice shape. Don't see them on the bandstand often anymore.
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@Sacred Synthesis
Thanks, but when I hear your works with the PEK or a P'08, I guess making such sounds on the P'12 would be a piece of cake for you.
Keep in mind I haven't bougth my P'12 specially to make vintage stuff but more futuristic things like this, then I nicknamed my synth The Modulator :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFGna9llnKI
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The Modulator :D
;D
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Keep in mind I haven't bougth my P'12 specially to make vintage stuff but more futuristic things like this, then I nicknamed my synth The Modulator :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFGna9llnKI
I like it...a very dark, post apocolyptic feel. Hope I'm never in an environment that sounds like that ;) So how many tracks of P12 did it take to create that?
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I haven't made this track, but it was this kind of feel I bought my P'12 for ;)
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@Adam- It was fun watching your video. You had some interesting sounds on the P-12. I especially liked that you were playing a REAL Fender Rhodes piano rather than a sample. It looked like it is in nice shape. Don't see them on the bandstand often anymore.
Thanks for the kind words and for supporting my insistence on lugging around all 120lbs of Rhodes out to each and every gig. It's feedback like that that keeps my bandmates convinced that it's worth the backpain :). There are some sampled Rhodes' sounds out there that come pretty close, but there really is nothing like the real thing.
Keep in mind I haven't bougth my P'12 specially to make vintage stuff but more futuristic things like this, then I nicknamed my synth The Modulator :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFGna9llnKI
Agreed -- lots of great synths out there that can do the vintage thing, but the P12 has a capacity for much more.
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A new track with heavy P'12 use :)
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/dusk
Love this one too! Really good ensemble sounds out of the P12!!
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Hi all,
in a different thread BobTheDog requested I upload my P12 only recording of Holst's Mars in addition to my recording of Mercury so it's now up on SoundCloud at:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/prophet-12-mars (https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/prophet-12-mars)
Thanks!
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On this track, there's only P'12 till 1'15 (and after there's Juno)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDzOT1zIXGY
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Nice pads and chord progressions. The Prophet 12 sounds very Evolver-esque.
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That's why I consider the P'12 as a PEK mk2, the opening sound is one of the very first sounds I programmed on this synth and at the times, I felt the vibes I had on the PEK, those two synhs definitely share the same DNA :)
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This song was built around the P'12 arpeggio :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tQyP1H4wkY&feature=youtu.be
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Hi all,
after getting so many listens, encouragement, and positive responses to my Prophet 12 recordings of Mars & Mercury from Holst's "The Planets"...I decided to go ahead and upload the rest of the pieces from the suite as well. You can access the whole album at my SoundCloud playlist:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/the-planets-on-a-prophet-12 (https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/the-planets-on-a-prophet-12)
As with Mars & Mercury: Venus, Saturn, Neptune, Jupiter & Uranus are also performed exclusively on my P12 Module with no other instruments - outboard processing is just a little reverb added when recorded to my good old Roland VS-1880. I'd say 90% of the P12 voices are in monophonic unison mode, most of which I created myself and recorded 1 track at a time.
Hope my fellow Prophets' like them ;)
Thanks!
Dennis
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after getting so many listens, encouragement, and positive responses to my Prophet 12 recordings of Mars & Mercury from Holst's "The Planets"...I decided to go ahead and upload the rest of the pieces from the suite as well.
Very, very nice.
Cheers
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@WytchCrypt
This is really an awesome project. The P12 is well suited to these pieces and it's clear you put in a lot of work to bring this together. Well done!
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@WytchCrypt
This is really an awesome project. The P12 is well suited to these pieces and it's clear you put in a lot of work to bring this together. Well done!
Thanks Adam and Araucaria for your kind words ;)
This all started last year when I began recording a P12 only take on Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons". I was very happy with it, but wanted to take on a bigger challenge...and I thought what could be bigger than "The Planets" 8)
It took a few months of work and I finished the album back in late March. I think the P12 is an incredibly versatile instrument that can cover anything from old school analog to modern day complex digital if you take the time to really dig in and experiment. I guess I just got sick of reading negative reviews saying it can't do 70's analog sounds and wanted to prove them wrong :)
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I thought these recent videos were excellent demos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw-gH7TIBYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9qv1PRh3o4
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@WytchCrypt
This is really an awesome project. The P12 is well suited to these pieces and it's clear you put in a lot of work to bring this together. Well done!
Agreed. Really enjoy the work!
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Great videos, Sacred Synthesis. Its interesting to see how one's appreciation of the instrument evolves over time as users gain more experience with the instrument and some of us perhaps get more to terms with its overall sound not having the same analog impact as the Evolvers. Had the Prophet 12 been sound-per-channel multi-timbral and my finances permitting it I would surely get a Prophet 12 Module.
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Maybe we could split one between us. :D
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Maybe we could split one between us. :D
I could easily use a six voice so yes. Not sure how feature preserving (https://youtu.be/V5kNtebLcU4) that chainsaw would be though!
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dsisynth can you explain 'Had the Prophet 12 been sound-per-channel multi-timbral' please? I thought that was what I was doing with it.
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dsisynth can you explain 'Had the Prophet 12 been sound-per-channel multi-timbral' please? I thought that was what I was doing with it.
Might have been referring to multi- (i.e., greater than two, like a Tetra @ four-part multi-timbral) vs. bi-timbral operation (Prophet-12, Prophet '08 / Rev2 split/layer).
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Sorry, I'm not familiar with other synths but I am running Cassandra (my P12) in quadraphonic with two expression pedals allowing me to change the timbre of each of the four outputs in two distinct ways. To be honest I sometimes have problems finding the appropriate 'sweet spots' (should I want to) in this maze of options - I can't imagine anything more multitimbral. I guess this is a language issue and 'Multitimbral' has some tightly defined technical meaning.
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I guess this is a language issue and 'Multitimbral' has some tightly defined technical meaning.
I always believed the definition of multi-timbral to mean synths that can process 2 to 16 unique midi channels at one time and play as many assigned notes as possible up to the total polyphony. According to the manual our P12's are bi-timbral, which to me would be a subset of multi-timbral ;)
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dsisynth can you explain 'Had the Prophet 12 been sound-per-channel multi-timbral' please?
I mean sound-per-MIDI-channel multi-timbral which allows for a separate and optionally layered sound on each MIDI channel. This have a wide range of applications ranging from sequencing over electronic percussion to per note expression in its various forms.
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Thanks for explaining, I've not been using midi because of the latency and the desire to play everything live (in real time). I guess I've not moved far from my Tape recorder roots.
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Hi
Here's another song with a heavy use of Prophet 12 :)
https://soundcloud.com/babel-17/always-on-the-run
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Hi
Here's another song with a heavy use of Prophet 12 :)
https://soundcloud.com/babel-17/always-on-the-run
Like it!
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A first piece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQktiQLqHiE
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When I eared what you made with the Prophet'08 and the PEK, I was ready to bet it'd be a piece of cake for you to make beautiful sounds on the P'12 :)
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Yes, it's almost a piece of cake to make decent sounds with the Prophet 12, but it did take the old stereo treatment to get it to an acceptable point. As is, I found it rather lifeless, just as I had found the Prophet '08 lifeless years ago. So, I used the two pair of output jacks to create a stereo signal, and that brought it to life, although it also obviously reduced it to a six-voice instrument. It was worth it, though.
Most surprising of all, I found the Character section not to be useful in creating the sorts of patches I use. This is contrary to what I've read from others over and over again. Allegedly, Girth and Air were essential in creating pads with any degree of warmth and old school character. By no means. In the pads I was designing - in which warmth and prettiness were foremost - I found the section to work much like an EQ, with Decimation, Drive, and Hack adding much as the terms imply. Sorry, not for me. I could certainly see how the whole Character section could be used in creating very different types of sounds, but I preferred to leave everything at "0," as I did in the above recording.
If I were to buy a Prophet 12, it would be only with the intention of pairing it with a P12 Module, in the usual way. But with this arrangement, I have to say, it would be a superb synthesizer.
The real issue for me is, which will be the better instrument, the Prophet 12 or the Poly Evolver Keyboard? I think everyone who wants to speak about DSI synthesizers as if they know something should be required first to play for a few hours an eight-voice Poly Evolver Keyboard with good programs. Among the whole line-up, I still say that the PEK is the exceptional instrument - so much so that I find myself always trying to emulate its strengths on other synthesizers. For me, that's the only test the Prophet 12 must pass: could it fill a PEK's spot? There's just nothing like a Poly Evolver. That's why the question - Will Dave ever issue a PEK II? - remains a question on this forum. I realize the standard reply is always that the P12 is that PEK II, but I have to call that claim debatable. The problem is, with DSI, Dave started out very very strong.
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I think everyone who wants to speak about DSI synthesizers as if they know something should be required first to play for a few hours an eight-voice Poly Evolver Keyboard with good programs.
...and therein lies the problem - without a quad set of Evolver Desktop (or the more-difficult-to-find Poly Evolver Rack) unit(s), you can't get eight voices out of a standard Poly Evolver Keyboard.
For live performances, stereo voice architecture is not a huge selling point, but for studio use, it's an absolutely beneficial arrangement which allows one to get far more depth out of the voice architecture.
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I realized I was asking for the impossible. Still, a PEK and PER pair would make a useful reference point for much of our discussions. It's unfortunate that most of us missed the big one.
Many people say that they've tried a PEK and didn't like it because it was thin-sounding. I just have to laugh at that, because it's most likely due to their having listened to the factory presets which, I admit, are terribly caustic. It's a shame the PEK wasn't given a longer production run and a fresh set of banks. It was around only while DSI was a very small company, so the marketing probably was lacking. But if it had better programs, a longer production life, and even one more voice for a total of five, it might have been much more popular. Such a masterpiece.
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So, I used the two pair of output jacks to create a stereo signal, and that brought it to life, although it also obviously reduced it to a six-voice instrument. It was worth it, though.
Yup, I was implicitely meaning that most of the P'08 tricks also work on the P'12 ;)
For the stereo, have you tried to modulate the panning on the delay lines? Modulating it with an LFO, I managed to program a ping-pong. Another very cool feature is the lowpass filter on these lines :)
I could certainly see how the whole Character section could be used in creating very different types of sounds, but I preferred to leave everything at "0," as I did in the above recording.
I don't use this section a lot... For me, the most useful feature is by far the overdrive, very cool to make the sound beefier (the pot value between 7 and 15).
I think everyone who wants to speak about DSI synthesizers as if they know something should be required first to play for a few hours an eight-voice Poly Evolver Keyboard with good programs. Among the whole line-up, I still say that the PEK is the exceptional instrument - so much so that I find myself always trying to emulate its strengths on other synthesizers.
The first DSI I ever used was a PEK in a store 10 years ago and I was blown away. Sadly, it was only 4 voices and I didn't have nor the room, nor the budget for a 8 voices solution :(
So to tell you which one is the best between the P'12 and the PEK, I'd say the norman answer "m'ybe the PEK, m'ybe the P'12!", both are fantastic but structurally different, then they don't fulfill exactly the same needs...
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I'm still of the opinion that the Evolver has the sonic edge, but the Prophet 12 has immensely impressed me. There's just something about having all that power under your fingertips. And I don't hold it against the instrument that the mono signal is unsatisfactory. I'm obviously able to solve that problem in two different ways.
If I actually buy a Prophet 12, I'll do the usual pairing of a Keyboard and a Module. I would much prefer to have twelve voices mirror each other, rather than have the ping pong effect. But you were right, Mr. Kay, in your complimentary comments about the P12, and I was wrong in my criticisms. The fact it, basing one's judgment of a musical instrument on YouTube videos alone is a faulty approach, not because of the audio quality, because YouTube's quality is good enough. Rather, it's a faulty approach because of what people do with the instrument in the videos. I could find hardly a single synthesist who would use the P12 as I would. There are hours and hours of the instrument being used to make very gritty, nasal, metallic sounds that tend to give me a headache or an earache, or both. That is the real problem, and it's the reason I've many times suggested that DSI should take synthesizer demonstrations much more seriously.
Producing these fabulous instruments, but then leaving them to be globally demonstrated by folks who don't seem interested in drawing out the sweet, lush, and exclusively musical side is a bit of a career risk, in my opinion. I realize this view rubs some people the wrong way, but so be it; it's the truth. If the Prophet 12 had been demonstrated in such a way, I certainly would have bought one two or three years ago, and I'm sure this would have been the case with many other musicians as well.
One of the more common comments that I get from listeners to my YouTube channel is: "Unlike a hundred other videos I've listened to, your demonstrations of the Prophet '08 or Poly Evolver Keyboard have brought out the musical side, and for that reason I just ordered one". I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm boasting, but I've gotten this comment many times. DSI should establish a mean by which a variety of musicians demonstrate their new instruments by means of pieces of music. It's the only way of countering the inevitable - that YouTube will be inundated with videos that fail to do DSI synthesizers justice.
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I don't understand why the Prophet 12, or REV2 for that matter, wasn't graced with a "DUAL" mode that would basically stack two voices on top of each other and where pan spread would simply pan the two voice further apart in the stereo field. Seems like a fairly easy thing to do and would give you instant stereo goodness.
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So to tell you which one is the best between the P'12 and the PEK, I'd say the norman answer "m'ybe the PEK, m'ybe the P'12!", both are fantastic but structurally different, then they don't fulfill exactly the same needs...
I bought one of the 1st PEK's and had lots of fun with it and used it on some recordings. IIRC you could add an evolver to bring the polyphony up from 4 voices to 5...never tried it myself. Problem was, the PEK's tiny LCD screen drove me absolutely nuts! I hated it! If the PEK would have had the highly detailed OLED of the P12 module, I probably never would have sold it and eventually replaced it with a P12 ;)
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I don't understand why the Prophet 12, or REV2 for that matter, wasn't graced with a "DUAL" mode that would basically stack two voices on top of each other and where pan spread would simply pan the two voice further apart in the stereo field. Seems like a fairly easy thing to do and would give you instant stereo goodness.
The Rev2 can accomplish this pretty easily by using the Fixed option for Pan Modulation Mode in the Misc Params. It allows a wide, fixed stereo field made up of both layers. You can read more about it on page 62 of the manual. (https://www.davesmithinstruments.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Prophet-Rev2-Users-Guide-1.0.pdf?x72411)
It does require a little bit of setup so I understand it's not the same as having a dedicated button, but I wanted to point out it's possible without too much fuss.
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There's just something about having all that power under your fingertips.
That's definitely the feeling this synth gives me when I play it, and the fantastic UI helps to handle it ;D
The fact it, basing one's judgment of a musical instrument on YouTube videos alone is a faulty approach, not because of the audio quality, because YouTube's quality is good enough.
Yup, YouTube alters a little the sound, but not enough to make a beautiful sound sounding like crap. Personnally, I prefer trying synths before buying them, playing some factory presets and then initiate a basic patch to evaluate the oscillators and filter sections since heavy effects use can make illusion (ex : the Access Virus).
I made an exception with the P'12, but there were an early video where Dave made a presentation of the separated features and I crossed it with the InHalt videos of the P'08 vs P5 and OB8 (*) and my own experience with my Mopho Kb, so I took the risk to order one without having tried it.
(*) I was considering buying an old OB at the time I bought my P'12.
Producing these fabulous instruments, but then leaving them to be globally demonstrated by folks who don't seem interested in drawing out the sweet, lush, and exclusively musical side is a bit of a career risk, in my opinion.
The synth market changed... In the 70's and early 80's, costly analog polyphonic synths were used to try to emulate strings, horns, brasses, drums, but came the samplers and the romplers to fulfill those needs for a fraction of the price...
And today, most of DSI buyers are touring musicians who wanna add a vintage electro vibe to their rig and they're more likely to prefer the compacts and idiot proof Prophet'08, Prophet 6 and OB-6 rather than big and advanced PEK, Pro-2 and Prophet 12, which are mostly buyed by techno and electro-industrial freaks (ex : Trent Reznor, Cevin Key...)
The last time I tried a PEK, I noticed there was a sequenced preset called "Cars", it's a reference to Gary Numan's song, itself inspired by J.G. Ballard's novell "Crash!" ;D
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I saw a post on GS and then took the time to listen to the work. If this doesn't sell more Prophet 12's I don't know which patch libraries will. These are the kinds of patches that separate the old school bread and butter from the now and the future. All the patches are set up for all modulations making them playable without messing up the structure of the sound-perfect for producers and inspiring for synthesists.
Seriously, check out what is possible when the P12 is in the right hands:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/12760293-post3269.html
The above link contains the direct links to the sound designer's soundcloud demos.
Otherwise just go here and click on the pictures to link to the demos: https://sellfy.com/black_materia
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I had to do it. Prophet 12 Brass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOb03S1-KoM
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Prophet 12 Brass
Just found it on youtube. It sounds great (as always). :)
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Thanks, DSLsynth. I have this instrument only for another three weeks, so I'll just keep knocking out the demonstrations. Then I'll see if I've convinced myself to buy one some day. Hopefully, I will also have helped others to better appreciate the instrument.
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Thanks, DSLsynth. I have this instrument only for another three weeks, so I'll just keep knocking out the demonstrations.
Very cool! I hope you get so much experience with it that you can decide how much you like it. Is that a keyboard or module edition you borrowed?
As for the discussion about Prophet 12 vs Evolver there is nothing new under the sun: Analog oscillators matter even if mangled by the A/D -> DSP -> D/A excursion. Digital oscillator implementation matter too as different realization have different sonic properties. To be honest I think the next sensible step in the evolution of digital oscillators would be to look towards Modal 002's NCO design. Or at very least offering more than one way to render the oscillator signal.
With that said if I was offered a Prophet 12 Module at a price I could afford and was it channel-per-voice multi-timbral I would very likely buy one. For now however, that is entirely computer science fiction and financial fiction. And who knows if a more interesting voice architecture would show up one of these NAMM shows?
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It's the keyboard version.
Let me tell you a secret. Don't tell anyone, okay? For each sound I've programmed on the Prophet 12, the same patch on the Poly Evolver Keyboard has sounded even better. I have another improvisation ready to go, and the PEK version sounded so much better that I was stunned. But I'll post the P12 version anyways.
The fact is, you just can't satisfactorily replace one instrument with another. They're all too unique. Hence, the Prophet 12 can't exactly replace a Poly Evolver, nor vice versa. They both have their respective strengths and weaknesses. However, the other lesson in all of this is that the Prophet 12 is a superb instrument, even from my old school viewpoint. A person with my likes and tastes could positively be happy with it and do wonders on it.
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The fact is, you just can't satisfactorily replace one instrument with another. They're all too unique. Hence, the Prophet 12 can't exactly replace a Poly Evolver, nor vice versa. They both have their respective strengths and weaknesses. However, the other lesson in all of this is that the Prophet 12 is a superb instrument, even from my old school viewpoint. A person with my likes and tastes could positively be happy with it and do wonders on it.
Point taken! Have you found sounds where Prophet 12 really shines? Looking over its voice architecture can you spot interesting uses for your music? Have you tired the DC source -> Pan destination trick for stereo panning voices without using the layer B outputs?
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Point taken! Have you found sounds where Prophet 12 really shines? Looking over its voice architecture can you spot interesting uses for your music? Have you tired the DC source -> Pan destination trick for stereo panning voices without using the layer B outputs?
I think I already know where the instrument is strong, so I'm trying to learn where the instrument is weak, I'm and finding that it isn't weak where I had expected. Does that make sense?
I realize the instrument can be programmed for stereo, but it's not how I want to achieve it. If I buy a P12, I'll do the usual pairing of keyboard and module. No programming necessary and maximum flexibility.
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I was listening to YouTube things, and a Sacred Synthesis - Prophet 12 video popped up. Figured YouTube was making a mistake.
Improvisation LXXX for Prophet 12 and Poly Evolver Keyboard is lovely. Let's just say I wish you could keep your PEK's and get a 12. Even if it's simply a muse. I don't know what's doing what, so I can't comment on a comparison. ... And you are right, in the end, one's personal explorations of a synthesizer is what matters the most, and cannot be fully gleaned from 3rd party experiences. YouTube demos and specifications can give one a ballpark sense.
I can't wait to hear some videos that exploit what you believe are the strengths, and unique elements of the 12. (I like to test the potential weaknesses first, as well.)
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It's the keyboard version.
Let me tell you a secret. Don't tell anyone, okay? For each sound I've programmed on the Prophet 12, the same patch on the Poly Evolver Keyboard has sounded even better.
If you put exactly the same pot position, the P'12 will sound brighter because the filters are the same, but calibrated differently.
I noticed this when I tried to program my favourite Mopho sounds on my P'12, I had to lower a bit the cutoff and it sounded the same.
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I had to do it. Prophet 12 Brass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOb03S1-KoM
That's funny. I was about to ask whether you tried to swap the roles the PEK and the Prophet 12 took over for Improvisation LXXX, which you kind of did now by playing the brass patch on the Prophet 12, albeit the settings don't seem to be exactly the same.
How much do you miss the true stereo filter on the Prophet 12?
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It's the keyboard version.
Let me tell you a secret. Don't tell anyone, okay? For each sound I've programmed on the Prophet 12, the same patch on the Poly Evolver Keyboard has sounded even better.
If you put exactly the same pot position, the P'12 will sound brighter because the filters are the same, but calibrated differently.
I noticed this when I tried to program my favourite Mopho sounds on my P'12, I had to lower a bit the cutoff and it sounded the same.
Yes, that's the case. I'm not going by digits. though, but by ear.
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How much do you miss the true stereo filter on the Prophet 12?
The way I have it configured, it's a snap to slightly offset the filter of one layer, so there's no missing of the Evolver's stereo filter.
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Hi all,
a couple months ago I posted my P12 only recording of Holst's "The Planets" on SoundCloud and got lot's of great comments and listens. Well, before I recorded "The Planets", I had recorded a P12 only arrangement of Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" and released it on a Morpheus album I called, "Vivacity". I had just enough minutes left on my SoundCloud account to exactly fill it up with that album...so...I figured, why not? I just uploaded it to SoundCloud at:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/vivacity-vivaldis-four-seasons-on-a-dsi-prophet-12-synthesizer
Like "The Planets", the whole album is exclusively P12 (with a little reverb added with my old Roland VS-1880 deck) with all of the sounds recorded in mono/unison mode. I'd say I created about 80% of the patches myself. If you heard my version of "The Planets", this one is coming from the same place...a love of 70's analog synths and my attempts to get the P12 to cover that ground.
Hope you like it!
Dennis
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Stereo filter and polyphonic portamento:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_HhpoZW838
This instrument is really growing on me.
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Hi all,
a couple months ago I posted my P12 only recording of Holst's "The Planets" on SoundCloud and got lot's of great comments and listens. Well, before I recorded "The Planets", I had recorded a P12 only arrangement of Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" and released it on a Morpheus album I called, "Vivacity". I had just enough minutes left on my SoundCloud account to exactly fill it up with that album...so...I figured, why not? I just uploaded it to SoundCloud at:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/vivacity-vivaldis-four-seasons-on-a-dsi-prophet-12-synthesizer
Like "The Planets", the whole album is exclusively P12 (with a little reverb added with my old Roland VS-1880 deck) with all of the sounds recorded in mono/unison mode. I'd say I created about 80% of the patches myself. If you heard my version of "The Planets", this one is coming from the same place...a love of 70's analog synths and my attempts to get the P12 to cover that ground.
Hope you like it!
Dennis
Wytch Crypt,
I took a quick peek, but will listen to the whole thing at home later. Doing the whole Planets is an undertaking for sure, and I have to say, the little I have heard so far you really captured that old Tomita sound, which is my absolute favorite.
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Hi all,
a couple months ago I posted my P12 only recording of Holst's "The Planets" on SoundCloud and got lot's of great comments and listens. Well, before I recorded "The Planets", I had recorded a P12 only arrangement of Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" and released it on a Morpheus album I called, "Vivacity". I had just enough minutes left on my SoundCloud account to exactly fill it up with that album...so...I figured, why not? I just uploaded it to SoundCloud at:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/vivacity-vivaldis-four-seasons-on-a-dsi-prophet-12-synthesizer
Like "The Planets", the whole album is exclusively P12 (with a little reverb added with my old Roland VS-1880 deck) with all of the sounds recorded in mono/unison mode. I'd say I created about 80% of the patches myself. If you heard my version of "The Planets", this one is coming from the same place...a love of 70's analog synths and my attempts to get the P12 to cover that ground.
Hope you like it!
Dennis
Wytch Crypt,
I took a quick peek, but will listen to the whole thing at home later. Doing the whole Planets is an undertaking for sure, and I have to say, the little I have heard so far you really captured that old Tomita sound, which is my absolute favorite.
Thank you, I hope you like it ;)
I love Tomita! His early albums are definitely the foundation that I build my classical music/synth approach on.
Back in '75 I got into ELP and absolutely went nuts over their adaptation of Pictures at an Exhibition. Then a few years later I heard Tomita's version and was completely blown away! I remember thinking, "if I ever get one of these magical synthesizer things, that's what I want to do with it!"
It's funny, Wendy Carlos' Switched on Bach may have single-handedly created the synth/classical music genre and jump started the modern synth revolution which is still going strong 50+ years later...but...for me it was Tomita that really took it up to another level. Instead of using the synth to emulate orchestral instruments, his approach of exploring the technical limits of synth sound design and then integrating those sounds in unique ways in classical arrangements was what made him so special and influential - at least to me anyway ;)
I did my own take on Pictures at an Exhibition 3 or 4 years ago on a Korg Radias and it turned out well, but I think our beloved P12 is even better suited to these types of projects :)
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Hi all,
a couple months ago I posted my P12 only recording of Holst's "The Planets" on SoundCloud and got lot's of great comments and listens. Well, before I recorded "The Planets", I had recorded a P12 only arrangement of Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" and released it on a Morpheus album I called, "Vivacity". I had just enough minutes left on my SoundCloud account to exactly fill it up with that album...so...I figured, why not? I just uploaded it to SoundCloud at:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/vivacity-vivaldis-four-seasons-on-a-dsi-prophet-12-synthesizer
Like "The Planets", the whole album is exclusively P12 (with a little reverb added with my old Roland VS-1880 deck) with all of the sounds recorded in mono/unison mode. I'd say I created about 80% of the patches myself. If you heard my version of "The Planets", this one is coming from the same place...a love of 70's analog synths and my attempts to get the P12 to cover that ground.
Hope you like it!
Dennis
A very impressive array of sounds and contrasts of timbres. And yes, it definitely hints of Tomita, rather than Carlos. Well done, WC.
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Hi all,
a couple months ago I posted my P12 only recording of Holst's "The Planets" on SoundCloud and got lot's of great comments and listens. Well, before I recorded "The Planets", I had recorded a P12 only arrangement of Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" and released it on a Morpheus album I called, "Vivacity". I had just enough minutes left on my SoundCloud account to exactly fill it up with that album...so...I figured, why not? I just uploaded it to SoundCloud at:
https://soundcloud.com/dennis-m-366105599/sets/vivacity-vivaldis-four-seasons-on-a-dsi-prophet-12-synthesizer
Like "The Planets", the whole album is exclusively P12 (with a little reverb added with my old Roland VS-1880 deck) with all of the sounds recorded in mono/unison mode. I'd say I created about 80% of the patches myself. If you heard my version of "The Planets", this one is coming from the same place...a love of 70's analog synths and my attempts to get the P12 to cover that ground.
Hope you like it!
Dennis
A very impressive array of sounds and contrasts of timbres. And yes, it definitely hints of Tomita, rather than Carlos. Well done, WC.
Thanks Sacred Synthesis!
coming from someone who digs so deep into the sound creation and architecture of our beloved P12, I consider your comment high praise indeed ;)
Dennis
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Soft Strings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtlfEopBkl4
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demo except drums comes from maschine :)
bit of reverb, other than that it's all from p12. I was playing around today with the drum beat and came up with this.
oh and I got ob-6 recently. I love it as well. it has the bottom end that p12 is missing (I need to learn more about p12. how to program it and all mod possibilities)
https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/p12-demo-1
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Soft Strings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtlfEopBkl4
I really like it. The patches that make the timbre do not resemble the P-08 but can be both dark and soaring in the right places. I could listen to it all day. :) I really like that part of your new palette!!
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Soft Strings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtlfEopBkl4
I really like it. The patches that make the timbre do not resemble the P-08 but can be both dark and soaring in the right places. I could listen to it all day. :) I really like that part of your new palette!!
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OK, I listened your Improvisation LXXX - Amazing. The sound is so spectacular! I hope you continue to move this direction
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Thanks, JDT. Hmmm...I'm not sure what to say about this. My YouTube channel has a number of improvisations on the Prophet '08 that are similar in timbre and mode to the above piece (for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ILMTuuVIg&index=24&list=PL-CSFEgC2tTydFcvrBITryRPZHg4tUde5). If there seems to be some inferiority in the P'08 piece, it's due to the poor recording technique I was then using.
Although the Prophet 12 loaner is new (and temporary), the improvisation itself represents nothing whatsoever that is new for me. In fact, my whole effort with the P12 has been simply to see how well it could reproduce Prophet '08 and Poly Evolver Keyboard material. I've not been looking for its strengths, but its weaknesses, so as to understand where it could fit in my set up as a whole. My point here is that the P'08 could easily do everything I've recently posted with the P12, and, in my opinion, a tad better. What I learned is that my impression of the P12, based exclusively on the many YouTube and Soundcloud demonstrations, was way off. This is a beautiful-sounding instrument that is well-equipped and ready and waiting to make warm lush music. I would love to buy one, but, with the Rev2 on the horizon, I can't see how I could afford one in the near future.
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Soft ethereal pad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrOdrGuN01k
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Soft ethereal pad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrOdrGuN01k
Ha ha, you're hooked! :) Sounds excellent.
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Thanks, David. You betcha, I'm hooked! I know a masterpiece when I meet one.
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Thanks, JDT. Hmmm...I'm not sure what to say about this. My YouTube channel has a number of improvisations on the Prophet '08 that are similar in timbre and mode to the above piece.
Ahh, the timbres were similar - but different. That's what I liked. You're starting a different direction. You're new ethereal pad is really good to. As David Dever said - you're hooked!
What I found (though it now has been months since I have been able to spend time in the music room), is that the P-12 sends me different directions from the P-08. I like what I get out of the P-08, but the there's a place the P-12 takes me that I really like. The more I experiment with it, the better I like it. The changes can be subtle, but in some cases not so subtle. For example, the P-12 string sounds have a tonal difference that makes me compose differently. I am listening to your P-12 Soft Strings right now, and can hear the difference between your P-8 compositions and this one. It still has the signature Sacred Synthesis style, but it is different. Maybe its just a progression of your art, or it may be the synth. I think it's a combo of both.
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Well I sure won't argue with you. I agree, the P'08 and the P12 are very different instruments, and they lead you in different directions. I guess my main interest was in trying to figure out the P12, where it belongs and what it might replace. I thought it might be a good update for my good old Poly Evolvers, but no. Instead, I found it to be more similar to the P'08, even though light years beyond it in sophistication. The three instruments are unique and complimentary. No one synthesizer can replace the others and they actually make a superb ensemble.
Anyways, I learned a ton in my too short period with the P12 - about the instrument itself, but about other synthesizer and music-related things as well. It was an extremely fruitful month, but it's just about over now. Next I'll decide if I can part with a PEK to finance my own Prophet 12.
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Next I'll decide if I can part with a PEK to finance my own Prophet 12.
I never thought I would see those words from you! ;) It is definitely a great instrument, and I have barely touched the surface in programming it.
As far as price goes, have you considered the module? That's what I got. It is really easy to program. It can be a lot cheaper. I got mine from Pro Audio Star for $1299 new on their Black Friday sale. They may repeat it again this year. Also, there is a guy locally in Denver which has a P-12M on Craigslist for $1300. It's been there for awhile. So, I guess he is flexible. I'd be glad to look at it for you if you are interested.
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I would probably do the usual keyboard-module pairing for maximum musical power and depth. Remember, I don't get all the gadgets. What synthesists normally spend on sequencers, drum machines, and a dozen other I-don't-know-whats, I put exclusively into the instruments. So, there's no extravagance here - just a different use of resources.
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another track ;)
https://soundcloud.com/kyumin-shim/hero-remix
bass from sub37, intro&outro synth by ob-6, and all p12 keyboard.
gotta learn how to mix and program drum better but it's fun to just make some tracks.
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I would probably do the usual keyboard-module pairing for maximum musical power and depth.
I've seen a couple people mention this but don't really understand what this is about. Are you saying having a P12 kybd & P12 module with identical patches doubling the parts? Can you explain what the advantage of that is and how you would use it? Could be I'm not seeing it because I normally use my P12 in unison mode for multi-track recording where I control the stereo field rather than live applications and never run out of voices ;)
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Pairing the keyboard and the module is for both types of uses - for dumping the keyboard's identical programs onto the module, as well as for using different programs on each unit. In the first case, the point is to very easily (without programming) achieve a stereo depth by panning the two identical sounds at the mixer. This is essential for creating rich warm strings, brass, organ, pads, as well as monophonic patches. In the second case, it's for twelve-voice bi-timbrality or six-voice quad-timbrality. In both cases, it also allows for processing the layers differently. Another technique is to slightly alter some aspect of one program's settings. For example, setting the filter of one layer differently will create a stereo filter. The first sound in this demonstration is an example of that and it does not use delay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_HhpoZW838).
Folks have criticized this method as "overkill". Not at all. Personally, I don't like the sound of a mono signal. To my ears it sounds dull, lifeless, and very unnatural. My sonic standard with synthesizer is not the synthesizer, but the pipe organ, orchestra, and other acoustic ensembles or instruments. My goal is always to de-accentuate its electronic character and to make it sound more acoustic. So, with few exceptions, I maintain a stereo depth in my music and sounds. Whether or not it's obvious on YouTube is a different question, but the original recordings sound gorgeous for their deep stereo.
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For the fun, a clip of the song using a lot the Prophet 12 and my bandmate definitely looking like a psycho and me with plenty of sunglasses :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHjY6SNGjJ0
Here are the places where I used the P12
0:00 the lead
0:10 the chords
0:30 the sync sound + the electronic bassline
1:10 the weird FM sound
3.45 the final sound
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Pairing the keyboard and the module is for both types of uses...
Thanks for the explanation ;)
The only detail that the P12 architecture disappoints me is the inability to directly pan the oscillators independently within a voice, though as I mentioned in another thread, multi track recording is my medium so I've developed ways around that. I believe you've said before that you don't multi track, so running 2 in parallel stereo sounds like a great solution...that's a lot of Prophet Power 8)
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Heres a couple of albums i made using only the prophet 12 for synth and 99 percent tempest for drums:
https://open.spotify.com/album/2BNLyROMBrC4eyvzhhGTHe
https://open.spotify.com/album/0Eh7ZYtdZBPvI0cxTDjD6J
Emile the Duke
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Pairing the keyboard and the module is for both types of uses...
Thanks for the explanation ;)
The only detail that the P12 architecture disappoints me is the inability to directly pan the oscillators independently within a voice, though as I mentioned in another thread, multi track recording is my medium so I've developed ways around that. I believe you've said before that you don't multi track, so running 2 in parallel stereo sounds like a great solution...that's a lot of Prophet Power 8)
We've both found workarounds that serve our purposes. One more alternative is to use the two pair of output jacks and be content with six voices panned in stereo, such as I did this past month. This is one of the reasons I'm always praising the Poly Evolver Keyboard. It has hardwired stereo oscillators that can be brought into mono by degrees. It's just perfect, and it's the cause of my appreciation for stereo synthesis. But I can't figure out why Dave has never repeated this design.
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Thanks for the explanation ;)
The only detail that the P12 architecture disappoints me is the inability to directly pan the oscillators independently within a voice, though as I mentioned in another thread, multi track recording is my medium so I've developed ways around that. I believe you've said before that you don't multi track, so running 2 in parallel stereo sounds like a great solution...that's a lot of Prophet Power 8)
We've both found workarounds that serve our purposes. This is one of the reasons I'm always praising the Poly Evolver Keyboard. It has hardwired stereo oscillators that can be brought into mono by degrees. It's just perfect, and it's the cause of my appreciation for stereo synthesis. But I can't figure out why Dave has never repeated this design.
Hey, too bad we can't commission Dave to build a custom synth with the stereo oscillators of the PEK, modulation matrix of the P12 and large PEK sized characters displaying all or just active parameters of the info of the P12 OLED. I think that could be a compromise to make us both crazy happy 8)
You know it's funny, back in '79 my very 1st keyboard was a Yamaha CP20 electric piano. I couldn't afford anything else for a couple years so I ran that CP20 through every effects pedal I could find to create new non-piano sounds (Rat distortion, Small Stone phase shifter, Boss chorus and compressor, Memory Man analog echo, etc...) It's sometimes the limitations of an instrument that give us inspiration to think outside the box. Frank Zappa might say, by necessity we become mothers of invention ;)
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I agree; limitation is good and results in a deeper use of one's creativity. But that idea you've got for a super DSI cut-and-paste synthesizer sounds good, too! Can it be Evolver blue? ;D
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I agree; limitation is good and results in a deeper use of one's creativity. But that idea you've got for a super DSI cut-and-paste synthesizer sounds good, too! Can it be Evolver blue? ;D
Yours can! I'll take mine in Halloween orange ;)
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My last Prophet 12 demonstrations...for now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HME9xGXgbaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZVA7TfI3nE
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Nice stuff there.
A shame you won't be doing anymore, I think your pieces will be very helpful to people looking at getting the P12. They will definitely help quash the urban myth that the P12 sounds bad!
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Thanks, Bob. Yes, I hope the pieces have that effect. I tried to provide what has been largely missing. After all, I'm partly to blame for that urban myth.
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Well I'm seeing that the P12 is a "natural choice" for creating all sorts of creatures. Just completed this one (all P12) which has the progression of birds, spring peepers, geese, owl, and wolves, etc. Brushes on drum are acoustic
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/hidden-in-the-hemlocks
A few years ago I did a similar piece (called the Happy Raccoon) that also used some "hammer dulcimer". That piece utilized sampled waves into a PEK from an actual dulcimer instrument. Here I just used the P12 to approximate, but I its close.
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What an excellent piece! I made a track some years ago using birdsong, but I used recordings and created the music around it. You have a good ear for the birdsong and a sensitive touch on the P12!
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Thank you Chaparral
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Soundquest, you have a real talent for emulating nature sounds. I've often wanted to do the same, but I don't think I could come close to your ability. I'm curious, though - how or why do you have such an interest? Are you a outdoorsman?
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Thanks Sacred Synthesis. I do like the outdoors and try to get to quiet environments like in Southern Ohio and in the mountains of West Virginia every so often to refresh. Doing so often reminds me just how noisy today's world is, especially now, when even the gas pumps have a TV screen blasting commercials at you.
It's perhaps an interesting story how I got into synthesis in the first place- which is related. I used to help my older brother build those Radio Shack electronic kits. Some were quite nice, like the "electronic bird". By moving jumper wires from one spring to the next you could emulate different bird calls. At that time I was just a kid, but I really liked this Tomita album he had called "Kosmos". It was so just amazingly unworldly, yet earthy. I'd sit there listening to it , looking at the album picture of Tomita surrounded by his synths, and think...man, I'd love to do that someday. And so...I'd pick up that darn electronic bird kit and just pretend :)
Well, I ended up playing drumset most of my life instead, but that all changed about 9 years ago. I was walking into Guitar Center to buy a cymbal, and instead of that, I left with a used Novation K station. That's when I realized...hey, they actually make affordable consumer equipment that can do those old Tomita sounds. Keep in mind that I knew nothing about synths at that point, but since then slowly learned, and much thru the wonderful knowledge of the folks on the DSI forum(s). So, the quest continues full-circle I guess, and once again brings me back to making bird sounds.
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I heartily agree with your first paragraph. I'm even more extreme about it, as I think the pictures in my "videos" suggest.
That was an interesting and somewhat humorous personal story. Somehow, you took a left turn into percussion, only later to take a right turn into synthesizer. I'm glad you finally made it here!
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Good stuff. ... (Gas pumps have become annoying.)
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I do like the outdoors and try to get to quiet environments like in Southern Ohio and in the mountains of West Virginia every so often to refresh. Doing so often reminds me just how noisy today's world is, especially now, when even the gas pumps have a TV screen blasting commercials at you.
It's funny, as I was recently doing some field recordings. And while I'm generally a city person and very used to and forgiving of all kinds of noises, my recording purpose shifted my awareness. Not that it led me to any significantly new insights, but me trying to capture particular sounds from the surrounding area was like putting a magnifying glass on everything.
Peter Kirn published an interesting article about the sound designer Francis Preve this summer. It contains some really outstanding examples of emulated nature and everyday sounds. The starting point of it all is basically how limited and limiting the clichéd synth sounds are most sound designers are asked to do (basses, leads, brasses, etc.) compared to the sonic richness that surrounds us on a daily basis.
Here's the article: http://cdm.link/2017/08/used-synthesizers-emulate-nature-reality/
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Paul Dither
Interesting, thanks
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If DSI ever does produce that Sampler everyone wants it be neat to just walk around the woods or city and get some sounds recorded and then bring those sounds back into the studio. I may try that with my Korg Microsampler.
Does anyone have any DX7 type Prophet 12 examples? FM Electric piano, FM sitar, fm bass, fm chimes, FM choir they can post?
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While not exhaustive by any means, there are some examples in our linear FM P12 video: https://youtu.be/YB9a2lPjzEo?t=2m47s
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While not exhaustive by any means, there are some examples in our linear FM P12 video: https://youtu.be/YB9a2lPjzEo?t=2m47s
Yeah I’ve watched that a few times. Sounds great. Just wish there were more extensive examples.
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https://soundcloud.com/user-670677252/resentment
Prophet 12, Bass Station II, and Spitfire Audio Albion I
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ISH, nice use of the multitude of non-melodic textures P12 is capable of.
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I really like many of the P-12 presets. Especially the flute at 2:15. This song uses one of my pads, and two presets. The short sequences are done with Doepfer Dark Time w. Dark Energy. Bass drum and cymbal are acoustic. Please excuse my sci-fi "own voice" attempt. I'm a novice in that regard ;)
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/reachable-thought
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I really like many of the P-12 presets. Especially the flute at 2:15. This song uses one of my pads, and two presets. The short sequences are done with Doepfer Dark Time w. Dark Energy. Bass drum and cymbal are acoustic. Please excuse my sci-fi "own voice" attempt. I'm a novice in that regard ;)
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/reachable-thought
I like the flute as well...overall reminds me of a Brian Eno song off Another Green World though I can't place the title ;)
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Chopin's "Tolling Bells" prelude for P-12 and Pro-02.
https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/2018-01-22-tolling-bells
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Nice arrangement, Jim. I especially liked the bass patch.
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Prophet 12 and DM-12 (for the "guitar").
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/break-in-the-clouds
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Hey Soundquest, I was just wondering today what might have happened to you. I was afraid you might have eloped with your Prophet 12!
This piece has some really nice sounds. The DM's acoustic guitar is lovely. Was that a narrow pulse? Nice Prophet strings too, and a bit of realistic flute.
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Well Sacred Synthesis, It'd certainly be easy to run off and hide away all winter long with the P12 :) Actually I'm taking my time on it. I knew when I got it that it could divert me away from my other instruments and I didn't want that to happen. So I'm sticking with a routine of making a slow circle once a month around my set up. Next up, PO8.
By the way, that wah wah lead towards the end is a factory patch on the P12. I think it'd be my favorite patch if I played in a funk band ;). The rest are either modifications or my own.
The DM12 actually can make some really nice guitar-ish sounds. Typically osc 1 is set both saw and pulse, then I add osc 2 which is pulse. Set it to pretty narrow- as you surmised. I modulate what they call "tone" of osc 2 with env 3 so that it changes like a string would. Also, add some ever so slight delay to it The notes are played as usual, but I'm using the units sequencer to play two additional notes for every note I play. You can adjust the slew between notes to get a bit of string/finger slide effect. But that option is largely contingent on temp. Too fast and it sounds muddy. Problem with DM's sequencer is that its really hard to adjust notes w/o using an editor (which I don't have or want). My favorite sequencer still remains the PEK's, as it allows so much flexibility, but I wish it was able to be sent midi out.
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By the way, that wah wah lead towards the end is a factory patch on the P12. I think it'd be my favorite patch if I played in a funk band ;).
I'm sure there's a funk band out there that likes the sounds of sea gulls and chipmunks, as you do. Funk, sea gulls, and chipmunks. You'll find it. Hey, there's the name - the Funkmunks, or the Funkulls.
Now that I've listened to your piece again, I have to say that slew setting is very effective. That's what fine sound design consists of - subtle tasteful touches that are just barely noticeable, but that ultimately perfect the patch. Great job! You've almost convinced me to get a Deepmind 12.
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Prophet 12 and DM-12 (for the "guitar").
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/break-in-the-clouds
'Feel the vibe of The Orb :)
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Hey, thanks for the feedback guys.
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Prophet 12 and DM-12 (for the "guitar").
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/break-in-the-clouds
Amazing good!
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Nice arrangement, Jim. I especially liked the bass patch.
Thanks! Means a lot coming from you.
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Prophet 12 and DM-12 (for the "guitar").
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/break-in-the-clouds
Amazing good!
appreciate that, thanks jdt9517
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Hey hey,
wow it's been ages, since I've read this thread. A lot of beautiful music. I wish I could binge listen for a while...
Here are two pieces by me: the first, is the first I ever used to P12 on. Not a lot of usage, since it arrive halfway through. The vocal bass, the strings and one of the bell sounds (recogniseable in the breakdown, digital waveform1 being very much in evidence.
http://juliencoder.de/nama/not_that_innocent-instrumental.mp3
The second one is mainly defined by P12 sounds, some Minibrute bass, samples for the carillon, tron choir and Solina and real vocals:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/with_an_aching_heart.mp3
If you prefer, they're also on soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c
(I'm very sluggish there and have difficulties using it, so if you have comments, better post them here or by mail, the address is on my website.)
Best wishes and enjoy!
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The second one is mainly defined by P12 sounds, some Minibrute bass, samples for the carillon, tron choir and Solina and real vocals:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/with_an_aching_heart.mp3
That was a really nice arrangement. Great job.
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The second one is mainly defined by P12 sounds, some Minibrute bass, samples for the carillon, tron choir and Solina and real vocals:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/with_an_aching_heart.mp3
That was a really nice arrangement. Great job.
Agreed, really loved this piece!
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I figured I'd place this here too since it's equally P12 as much as P08:
A sequence I was doing on th Prophet 8 it inspired the song. Actually this is a DSI sampler:
Intro shimmer is P12 with a Pro 2 pad. 0:45 Timpani on P12. 0:58 Oooh voices is P12 with faint Pro choir. 1:38 piano is P08 along with horns,pad, whistling. 2:30 P-12 pad climbing. 3:00 sequence on P12 ...... Then finally P08 back in at 3:38.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/emergence
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https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/emergence
A lovely, little rhapsody. There were some sounds I'd really like to copy onto my P12. The timpani and the triangle-like sound around 3:13.
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Thanks silvain, The timpani drum is actually a factory preset 4-48 with the delays off. Best timpani I've heard from a non-sampled source. The cymbal is a real Chinese cymbal I have. The triangle was a real triangle. I'll often use real percussion if I can't synthesize it.
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Would love to see some examples of the Prophet 12 doing Synclaiver type tones.
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Just a repost of a song I posted last week (lost during the forum glitch). All Prophet 12, except cymbals.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/early-promenade
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Here's one a little out of my normal style. The melody is Korg PolySix software. The rest is Pro-02 and P-12
https://soundcloud.com/jdt9517/2018-03-23-space-cadet
Never would have got these sounds out of the P-08 (I assume Rev. 2 also)
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It was a probably the most difficult sound for me to make on a synth...but thanks to the P12 I think I got a pretty decent river with some faint gurgling over the rocks. Also from the P12 is the banjo, upright bass and harmonica intro..and the shimmer pad and sequence.
Birds - peewee, robin, blue jay, mourning dove, and flicker are from the Nord Lead 4.
Woodpecker, owl, frogs, locusts and crickets from Roland Gaia- which by the way I keep it for that purpose ;).
Deepmind 12 for violin string pad and guitar.
And finally, the crow.....That's an actual crow call I blow into. I can't figure out how to synthesize a crow.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/the-river-spot
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That is a superb gurgling stream sound - very convincing because not static. And you are undoubtedly the synthetic bird man.
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Thanks Sacred Synthesis! Yes, I think those birds are becoming my niche ;) But some of that inspiration might be from replacing the birds so slow to arrive this unusually cool spring in Ohio :(
I do enjoy the P12 very much so far, though I've used it surprisingly little so far due to distractions. Recently got tangled up with the PEK (which is a good thing). Plus...I'm going to be replacing the computer that I use for music this week with a beefier set up. I don't enjoy that aspect of making music in some ways. For example, not looking forward to re-buying the soundtower editors and various other other software I'm using. Yet, something as simple as as a software oscilloscope can add a lot of usefulness that I wouldn't want to not have anymore,
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This isn't all Prophet 12, but the high synth string, the lead and one of the bass parts is. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC6_bcgcOKk&feature=youtu.be
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Entirely P12. Effects used are Strymon Big Sky and Lexicon 200.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/angelic-spheres
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A nice variety of matured distinctive sounds in this one. That harpsichord/clavinet tone is excellent. And the music is almost cinematic, with a touch of fear or suspense. Great job as always, Soundquest.
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@WytchCrypt- I really liked it. You developed some good sounds on the P-12. I like 70's too!
I had never really listened to Holst before. So, I listened to the whole Planets suite on Youtube. I didn't realize what I had been missing. He was definitely influenced by Wagner.
I am becoming more and more impressed with the P-12. It's capabilities are amazing.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for your kind words! After getting through the learning curve I've found that developing new P12 voices is almost as much fun as playing them 8) I think I also took it as a challenge because there are so many anti-P12 posts out on other forums who claim it can't do vintage analog sounds. I think it's a brilliant synth because it can do so many things so well and has so many mod matrix options.
Re: The Planets, other than Mars (which I knew well from King Crimson & ELP's cover versions) I had never heard any of the other pieces before recording them with the P12. It was great fun to discover them this way and I was blown away by the compositions. I'd been aware of the work forever but had no idea it was so cool! The style reminds me a lot of Mussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition and Night on Bald Mountain along with Saint-Sens' Dance Macabre. I believe these are often referred to as "symphonic tone poems". Very cool melodies and harmonies going on all over the place with a dash of dissonance here and there to spice things up ;)
I'm always on the lookout for other similarly styled classical pieces to do a P12 adaptation on...anyone have suggestions?
Check out Sibelius’ tone poems if you’d like some more source material to play with.
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Sacred Synthesis, RE: song: thanks for the kind review. For that arpeggiator at the beginning with the clavinet sound- I played the one arp track over top the other with identical pattern. Same deal at the end- where I have 4 arps stacked (but played individually).
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I know Free Improv is not everyones cup of tea, but I have a duo ‘Hedge’ with a guitarist and this live gig recording shows how versatile the Prophet 12 can be. (4 six minute tracks and a 14 minute track - I mainly use one home made quadraphonic voice per track)
https://soundcloud.com/andy-15-3/t1-hedge-live-21-6-18
https://soundcloud.com/andy-15-3/t2-hedge-live-21-6-18
https://soundcloud.com/andy-15-3/t3-hedge-live-21-6-18
https://soundcloud.com/andy-15-3/t4-hedge-live-21-6-18
https://soundcloud.com/andy-15-3/t5-hedge-live-21-6-18
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Chaparral,
The metallic sounds (i'm assuming this is all P12) are really convincing.
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Here are a couple:
Pads and brass on this one are P12-
https://m.soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/fool-in-the-morning (https://m.soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/fool-in-the-morning)
Lead on this is P12-
https://m.soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/the-things-you-do-to-me (https://m.soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/the-things-you-do-to-me)
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I did this one up for anyone surfing for P12 sounds. This is a 2 layer patch, composed in midi and tracked once; no overdubs.
https://soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/rain-protocol
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That's a magnificent sound, very dramatic. The bass register is superb.
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Thanks Sacred!
I'm really loving my P12. It has never not done what I wanted it to do and, more often than not, taken me in directions that I wouldn't have thought of on my own.
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@standingwave: I can only agree, what I lovely sound in Rain protocol! It's gorgeous! I also like the atmosphere and sounds of Fool in the morning.
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I've got a new one, I made this to show off the new Jeanny's Genius soundset, freely downloadable from:
http://juliencoder.de/sound/index.html
It ended up as also having a couple of sounds from the bank in progress as well:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/indian_summer.mp3
This was edited and processed afterwards, with everything that such a mix would usually get, including reverb, EQ, compression and "special effects".
The patchlist:
bank3 70 layer b: tracked motion
bank4 24: Silver Screen
bank3 33 layer a: String me goodnight
Bank4 68: Polewood
bank4 37: soft hats
Bank2 75 (a) Block and Clap (clap only)
There's one factory patch, but I'd have to dump the bank and look it up on the computer, not being able to see the screen. The zitar, oboe, bass, kick and snare as well as one arpeggio/sequence sound are from bank5 currently in progrewss, but that will take a while.
I hope you enjoy it!
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Nice work, thanks!
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This piece is a few years old, when I just had bought the P12 and were still getting the hang of it. I made a complex arrangement of just multitracked P12 and drums, to demonstrate its abilities. There are some 35-40 patches represented in the piece - based on more or less tweaked factory presets and those early freebie user banks. No FX added except for the 4 internal delays.
http://soundcloud.com/hfxx/twelve-disciples-of-the-prophet
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http://soundcloud.com/hfxx/twelve-disciples-of-the-prophet
This is beautiful! There are so many facets. I love the proggy attitude develooping over the piece. Thanks for sharing this, it would have been a waste just letting it gather dust.
Best wishes...
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This is beautiful! There are so many facets. I love the proggy attitude develooping over the piece. Thanks for sharing this, it would have been a waste just letting it gather dust.
Best wishes...
Thank's Jeanette for the nice comment! :) Yes, I tried to represent most of the genres I'm active in, in a single piece ;D
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Used entirely P12 making some use of it's fm capabilities. I love the guitar that's able to be gotten out of this synth.
Effects are Lexicon200 and Strymon Big Sky. Sequence at the end is driven by the Alesis Micron which has a neat sequencer that is able to record real time, not step.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/the-long-road
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Interesting.
Bullfrogs on acid! Lol.
Very cool plucky stuff too.
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Thanks standingwave. Frogs, I'll go with that too ;)
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https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/the-long-road
A nice tour de force. :) The guitar is fun, well played. But the sound that most amazed me is the vowel like effect sprinkled on top of the final sequence. Is that pure P12?
Best wishes, Jeanette
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Thanks for the kind review silvain, yes that's entirely P12 for the vowel sounds. I enjoy that aspect of coaxing out human-like voices out of various synths. P12 is pretty capable, though my favorite synth for voice is still the poly evolver, since I can actually input my own voice waveform.
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Hey there,
new music: Chapeau D'Empereur an EDM/dance/dubstep track made with alot of Prophet-12, showcasing a lot of the Jeanny's Genius sounds:
http://juliencoder.de/nama/cde.mp3
The sawtooth rhythm: "Dance Bitch" B1 49
Kick drum: B5 21 :)
squarey bass (over the intro): "WMD Bass" B4 09a
Supersaw like pluck: "Stadeon Filler" B4 01B
Arpeggios: "Magic Pizz" B4 07A and "Cinderella Tweet" B1 84B
e-piano/ping (also over the intro): "Ice-Vanned Piano" B1 85B
Pad: "Stadeon Pad" B4 82
Lead: "King-ly Lead" B2 54B
Noise downer: "Stadeon Noise Slide" B4 86
Basses:
B5 11A, B5 12B, "Talking Monster" B4 41, "Klincher" B4 42, "Scream N Whine" B4 45a, "Bowser Bass" B4 48a, "Seal It With A Kiss" B1 67A (The Britney Spears song of course <3 )
Sorry B5 will be some time in the making yet. :( Further drums supplied by Roland JV-1080, which also provided some strings, doubled through a free SFZ, the supersaw Pad was doubled by the opensource synth Yoshimi and the celesta was a commercial sample.
All sequencing, recording, processing, mixing and mastering was done in an open and commandline based environment much too obscure to know. :)
I hope you enjoy it.
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Happy stuff silvain. Thanks for sharing.
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All P-12 with some sequencing from the Polyend sequencer. Simmon's electric drumset.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/noodle-jive
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Very chemical :D
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Prophet-12 in the pure...CPM loaded!
https://soundcloud.com/lesartsnouveaux/fade-to-12
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Prophet-12 in the pure...CPM loaded!
https://soundcloud.com/lesartsnouveaux/fade-to-12
I really like those airy sounds toward the end. Really shows the range of sound the P12 can produce. Great stuff.
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Are there any examples of sounds or tracks created using the onboard wavetables? A lot of the demos I've heard so far has mostly been analog emulations but few focusing on the wavetables like gothic, aahh, tines, etc.
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On this demo, most of the sounds are wavetable based, sometimes with heavy modulations. For me, the first sound (the famous "Add Organics") if a good definition of the real personality of the P'12 when you're not imitating an analog, a DX7, a string machine...
https://soundcloud.com/thedisease/prophet-12-jam
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Mr Kay, that's a neat sitar-like sound ~ 4 minutes.
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This one is a factory preset called TibetHoliday :)
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https://soundcloud.com/denisvachon/heritage
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That is some beautiful work Denis; very classy and nostalgic, but not in a cheesy way.
https://soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/between-us (https://soundcloud.com/caley-kelly/between-us)
Some of the Leads and the bass are P12.
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This is all Prophet 12, even the birds of course ;) 1st song with the Linn Instrument, which has been a Godsend for me.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/the-water-wheel
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Beautiful.
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Thanks standingwave
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All Prophet 12 , except the bass drum/cymbal.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/forgotten-playgroud
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Very creepy! Great tones. 8)
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All Prophet 12 , except the bass drum/cymbal.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/forgotten-playgroud
There you go again, Soundquest - making a synthesizer sound like it's alive. Very vocal, certainly haunting, but musical. Fine work, as always.
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Thank you sacred synthesis
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Hey hey,
I have just published the EP "Congroovent" (dedicated to DJ and presenter Annie Mac: happy birthday Annie!) with Prophet-12 all over this:
https://soundcloud.com/jeanette_c/sets/congroovent
http://juliencoder.de/nama/congroovent/index.html
Genres span synthwave, EDM/club and drum & bass with a baroque gene pool and a love of sound design, which is where the P12 simply rules!
Get A. Mac: kick, snare, hihats, basses, strings (mostly from the upcoming Jeanny's Genius bank 5, but also some sounds from the older banks)
Chronophysis: strings, leads, intro sound, arpeggio and plucks and the accented basses in the last section
Strain of thought: bass, strings, plucks and arpeggios, leads
Cool, blessed hand (instrumental): pads and strings, effects, lead, arpeggios
Most other drums are an old Roland JV module, accept for "Chronophysis" which features many self-sampled and processed sounds. Loads of arpeggios 0-Coast and sometimes MiniBrute, as is the sub-bass, for vocal sounds and other esoteric colours a Microwave XT.
I hope you enjoy it. This EP has also brought me more than halfway through the fifth bank of the Jeanny's Genius soundset.
Best wishes and good listening! :)
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Congroovent is now also available on YouTube, sorry, I couldn't edit my post:
youtu.be/ms-owMQ4hiY
youtu.be/yZjZTkH5tOM
youtu.be/ecTfnkYE7GI
youtu.be/8sj-v_DElGw
Cool, blessed hand is very reliant on a few P12 patches from Jeanny's Genius: b4 5b (Padded Floor), b4 24 (Silver Screen), b4 92 (Night Sparkle: this is the main pad), b4 81a (Stadeon Pizz), b3 1b (Cave Bouncer: the very reverberated dripping in the long breakdown).
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Hey hey, I just released a piece showcasing an acoustic guitar, which will be part of Jeanny's Genius 5. Admittedly, it is just as much a happy accident and planned design, but I think the result sounds really nice and it plays well:
youtu.be/VwU1m9iE1fQ
The sound harmonic rely a lot on one of the waves, its morph controlled by an aux env. The underpinning is a simple two oscillator FM.
As for editing: there is EQ'ing, some subtle plate reverb and a vinyl simulation.
Bank 5 of my soundset is now only missing about ten sounds, so it shouldn't be too long before its release.
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here's a clip of a new track that is mostly Prophet 12 but in a very embryonic state at the moment so only a small clip! :)
https://soundcloud.com/blottuk/fanfare-working-title-pre-release-teaser (https://soundcloud.com/blottuk/fanfare-working-title-pre-release-teaser)
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A little track i did after the depression post holidays kicked in. Made a little video edit.
Enjoy and all critics are welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCwSvfpEM-w
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Hey Jazzy- very nice 80-ish tones you're creating with the P12 there. The music feels like the soundtrack for a victory lap.
Mechamilk- I dig the understated complexity of your composition. Is that an eventide running some crystals in the back?
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@standingwave the "crystals" i think is my Big Sky shimmer. Not sure what do you mean. :)
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Oh, the big sky shimmer does have a bit of a eventideish sound to it. The micropitched decay stuff sounds great, it's like a spikey blanket of ice.
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For the composition i kept a bit of randomness mixing live parts with stretched and pitched recorded parts of the same P12 track.
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Ahhhhhh! Very cool effect. Kind of a pseudo micropitch shift reverb, but homemade. Very cool.
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Hey hey, a collective feedback to recent music, what an explosion:
fanfare (working title) Prerelease Teaser: what a big analogue sound there. I hope you'll develop that!
Out of bubbles: what an atmosphere. I like the sounds, for my personal taste just on the edge between edgy and sweet. Great texture!
I'm looking forward to get the Prophet Sundays episode on my player to give it a good listen. I have enjoyed the first episode so far.
Sorry, if I missed anyone.
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I also have new music, a track made completely with the Prophet 12:
youtu.be/p_dol1TI13Y
It's both a song in its own right and a showcase for "Jeanny's Genius" for the P12, part 5, which is just out now. And you know what: it's free! :) Though I'd always welcome a little token of appreciation, if you think it's worth it and can afford it. :)
Here's the list of patches used:
Main bass: 96 - Action Delayed (double layer with a "synthetic" delay)
chord pluck (on 2 and 4): 69A - Raggae Pleck
Acoustic guitar: 98B - Lonely Wanderer
Flute: 91A - Pastoral Solo
Growl bass: 93 - Mother Puppy
bubbly noise: 53B - Panultimate
Pad: 84 - Alone in Time
Xylophone: 9 - Xylofort
Shimmer pad: 95A - Suboceanic (with a shimmer delay in the sound)
bell: 97 - Space Child (with a variant on the shimmer delay in fifths)
short pluck/ping: 43A Memebers of
Kick: 21 Arse Kick
Snare a: 20 - Coffee Snare
Snare b: 22 - Energy Snare
Clap: 23 - Snap&Clap
Hihats: Silver Hat
Didn't document the conga, but I think it was 61 - Thrills pluck
You can download the soundset here:
http://juliencoder.de/sound/jeannys_genius-prophet_12-part5.zip
Feedback of any kind always welcome. :)
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Out of bubbles: what an atmosphere. I like the sounds, for my personal taste just on the edge between edgy and sweet. Great texture!
Thank you! I m always looking for feedback but I dont know where to post my tracks...
I wanted to keep this track like an ambient sound triyng to raise to a synthwave track but kept underwater and never get out of it.
-- really like your video and sounds, i will check your patches. We need more people to show love for the P12.
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This track is entirely P-12. I'm using an alternate tuning "Lattice A". I used the Linn 128 controller appegiator which allows independent appegiators for a split on the keyboard.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/magic-music-box
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Beautiful sounds! I find the P12 really shines with these distressed sounds. Very characterful.
Cheers
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Thanks standingwave
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https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/magic-music-box
This is so lively! Both well played and designed. thanks for sharing this!
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Thanks silvain
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Hey hey, just posted a track to Youtube, a fun EDM/dubstep tune. Prophet 12 does ALL the dubstep bass parts, q.e.d., as well as the arpeggios and the rhythmic sawtooth sound. Drums and vocal adlibs by the trusty old Roland JV-1080, samples from LinuxSampler using the free SSO library.
youtu.be/JQI8_sU_Ruk
All P12 sounds from the Jeanny's genius soundsets, mostly bank 4. Enjoy!
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A little track with only P12 :)
https://icycoldrecords.bandcamp.com/track/logical-opening-the-disease
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Very nice Mr.Kay. it's a bit reminiscent of BOC on the Geogaddi album. Very sweet and tense sounds!
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+1 Mr. Kay, a very nice track. At the end I was waiting for the next section. :)
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A little cover, all synths sounds made with the P12
https://thedisease.bandcamp.com/track/submarines-and-icebergs-marquis-de-sade-cover
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https://thedisease.bandcamp.com/track/submarines-and-icebergs-marquis-de-sade-cover
What a beautiful sound design! All sounds so alive and breathing. Thanks for sharing!
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c'est beau Mr.Kay
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That is pretty Mr Kay.
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Thanks :)
Here's a rework of an earlier work, all synth sounds made with my P12 :)
https://thedisease.bandcamp.com/track/dawn
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Hey hey, I've got a few new songs up on youtube.
Dreaming of Isabelle:
https://youtu.be/gN0ZhhHnRb4
A sad, sort-of counterpunctual, very baroque piece, performed on a douphonic patch (Jeanny's Genius Bank 4, patch 13: ocean flutes).
The ancient hall:
https://youtu.be/e5A5a_MFVbM
a piece for three brass instruments, recorded with thre P12 patches from the Jeanny's Genius banks, trumpet doubled with a quiet sampled trumpet. It's a little midieval and contains a short fugue-esque quotation from my queen. Can you spot it? :)
Lament for a fairytale:
https://youtu.be/7wS0p-nnclA
A baroque lament, recorded with two P12 patches, no further processing. These are both from my bank 6, which is a work in progress.
Passing cars:
https://youtu.be/hOBZ2pZjj-o
A song which couldn't decide if it wanted to be trance, EDM or 70s synth music. Slightly wistful containing P12 bass (from bank 6), lead (bank 1, patch 15a: Excited lead), two plucks (both bank 4, patch 1b: Stadeon filler, 47: Party menace), a rhythmic patch (bank 5, patch 47b: Lazer machine), pads (bank 4, patch 5b: Padded floor, bank 3, patch 79: Absynth-ution, bank 1, patch 17b: Stringway to 70s), arpeggio/sequence (bank 2, patch 38b Bitch decore), guitar (bank 5, patch 98: Mooreish ways), piano (bank 5, patch 4: Guitaro forte). - Less relevant (here :) ) it also contains the RD-8, 0-Coast and Microwave XT, plus Yoshimi, an opensource Linux softsynth.
Hope you enjoy (some of) them. I'm not quick with reactions to youtube comments, it's not my preferred platform for communication. :) But a message here or by mail will always reach me in reasonable time. :)
Best wishes, Jeanette
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Just missed 7th heaven (because of the 7/8, childish I know). All the guitar sounds are P12 and they make a surprisingly good illusion:
https://youtu.be/jsbLxGGv7wg
They're my own patches. The main guitar (left side): bank 5 patch 4a), second guitar (right) bank 1 patch 19a), third (mid) a mix of bank 4 51a and bank 3 70a). Not sure about the 70a, didn't put it in my notes.
I passed the main guitar through an amp and speaker simulation, which did a lot. The second guitar got the same treatment only with much less distortion, so it's almost more of an EQ match than actual adding of harmonics.
Accept for the evil-B drum machine :) most of the rest is just samples.
Hope you enjoy it, Jeanette
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Just have a new piece out there:
https://youtu.be/ahNKPZR35A4
It's an (unintentional) Lady Gaga pastiche and called sex bomb. The P12 supplied the kick Jeanny's Genius 5, patch 28b (IIRC), the bass, which is the main player and part of bank 6, both pads/strings, again newcomers from b6. The other melodic sounds come from the opensource synth Yoshimi, further drums courtesey of LinuxSampler.
Please excuse the vocals.
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Hi, more music with the P12:
https://youtu.be/2ZMUBeSPOe0
The best kick drum of the last two years, now that I know how to handle it. Also synth bass, high strings, one "guitar" layer and the brass/synth stabs.
And for good measure:
https://youtu.be/HujCE6RqjrY
An epic ballad four years in coming :) No vocalist. :) Synth bass, pad layering and some ornamentation. Paired with old DX7 and JV1080, as well as some open source synth/sampler magic courtesey of Yoshimi and LinuxSampler. Also many, many thanks to the wonderful Beccy Schaefer for her great vocals and Joy Bausch for guitars.
Just thought it might be appreciated, even if not P12-centric in nature. It is an indispensible and inherent part to my work!
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I made a contribution to the Westworld scoring competition that Spitfire Audio is running at the moment. It’s all Prophet 12 except the drums, which were played on my Digitakt. https://youtu.be/_SXflpunaok (https://youtu.be/_SXflpunaok)
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https://youtu.be/_SXflpunaok (https://youtu.be/_SXflpunaok)
I love the quiet section which plays over the majority of the clip. It speaks to my classical soul. Thanks for sharing!
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https://youtu.be/_SXflpunaok (https://youtu.be/_SXflpunaok)
I love the quiet section which plays over the majority of the clip. It speaks to my classical soul. Thanks for sharing!
You’re welcome! Thanks for listening, I’m glad you like it :D
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This is entirely Prophet 12- except for the munchkin voice which is Nord Lead 4.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/moment-to-revel
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Three patches I made making heavy use of the delay and digital waveforms on the P12 synth. 1st one: 0 to 1:54 uses the PolyEnd sequencer to change the waveforms shapes just a bit thru out. 2nd patch: 1:54 to 2:35 is the same patch but in stack mode for some added bulk. 3rd patch uses a dual arpeggiator. Slight room reverb, but no other effects.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/pure-prophet-12-patches
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This is P12 played in two separate ancient churches and mixed together. It is from a direct line out so sadly you don't get to hear the great acoustics. https://soundcloud.com/user-706790405/cantabry
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This is P12 played in two separate ancient churches and mixed together. It is from a direct line out so sadly you don't get to hear the great acoustics. https://soundcloud.com/user-706790405/cantabry
I was expecting a more "reverby" sound due to the churches. The P12 is good for making those stringy sounds.
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This is just the Prophet 12, sequenced and multi-tracked into the Deluge -
https://soundcloud.com/circuitghost/prophet-12-synthstrom-deluge-as-much-as-id-love-to
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https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/moment-to-revel
I like the dulcit tones you teased from the P12.
At first I was wondering what you meant by "munchkin voice", until it introduced itself. :) Nice, relaxed piece.
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Thanks Silvain, the oddities that come out of synthesis are fun. :D
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Prophet 12 and Vermona MK 2 together for a different kind of sound.
https://youtu.be/oBKViDB9xwc
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This song relies on two synths- the Prophet 12 and Omnisphere. I don't have much soft-synth experience, but have found that some really nice sounds can be gotten from the emulations and samples of some of the traditional synths that are included in this software synth. For example, the pad at beginning is a mix of a CS-80 bass and a sample of OB-6 patch called sublime w. some glide. Some Strymon effects and a Cakewalk drum sample (which I play manually) round it out at the end. The P12 - which is used throughout, and exclusive after 4:00, is still a competitive all-around synth. Yes, the birds are P12 :)
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/october-divine
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This album is about 90% P12. A good portion of the tracks were used in the game Stormland by Insomniac Games.
https://synphaera.bandcamp.com/album/meridian-ex
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After using a slew of synths over the last 3 months and finally rotating back to the P12, I realized how much I still like this instrument. Firstly, I can make any sound on it. And secondly, I just seem to remember every nook and cranny. Whereas some of my other instruments I end up needing to refresh my memory on where things are located.
The Thrush bird is done with aid of the arpeggiator being increased in rate quickly.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/open-plain
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A little bit of P12 and Hydrasynth together.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/lushly-said
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A little bit of P12 and Hydrasynth together.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/lushly-said
Nice one. Can you tell us which synth is doing what? I don't really know either synth, so couldn't really guess...
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Thanks Manbird. Hey, I see you changed your "call sign". It fits you well since I saw in one of your videos you dressed as a bird ;D.
The P12 is basically just the bass line. You can hear the warbling bass in the first 2 measures, then it continues thruout with some subtle variances. The Hydrasynth is everything else. You can here some of the "wavetabley" use in the leads. But I've found Hydrasynth is really a great all-around synth to provide all parts.
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Thanks Manbird. Hey, I see you changed your "call sign". It fits you well since I saw in one of your videos you dressed as a bird ;D.
The P12 is basically just the bass line. You can hear the warbling bass in the first 2 measures, then it continues thruout with some subtle variances. The Hydrasynth is everything else. You can here some of the "wavetabley" use in the leads. But I've found Hydrasynth is really a great all-around synth to provide all parts.
Both synths sound great here - thanks for pointing out which is doing what!
I'm no longer "legally" Ant of 12047, having moved back to Cal from Berlin, and Manbird was the album that came out during the time of that transition, so I'm a bird now!
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Hi all,
Back in 2017 I posted a link to my album, "The Planets" which consists of the 7 pieces that make up Holst's "The Planets Op: 32" recorded entirely on a Prophet 12 Desktop. A few months later I took it down when I bailed Soundcloud. Well, with Dave's recent passing I wanted to honor his memory and accomplishments so decided to put the album back up. It now lives on my youtube channel in this playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz1Swndm9Og02b1mtO9PMBGH (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz1Swndm9Og02b1mtO9PMBGH)
I estimate about 80% of the sounds are my own with about 20% presets. The only additional processing was a little reverb from the Roland VS-1880 the album was recorded on.
Hope people enjoy it and Thanks to Dave for all those great synths, especially the P12!
Dennis
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Hi all,
Back in 2017 I posted a link to my album, "The Planets" which consists of the 7 pieces that make up Holst's "The Planets Op: 32" recorded entirely on a Prophet 12 Desktop. A few months later I took it down when I bailed Soundcloud. Well, with Dave's recent passing I wanted to honor his memory and accomplishments so decided to put the album back up. It now lives on my youtube channel in this playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz1Swndm9Og02b1mtO9PMBGH (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz1Swndm9Og02b1mtO9PMBGH)
I estimate about 80% of the sounds are my own with about 20% presets. The only additional processing was a little reverb from the Roland VS-1880 the album was recorded on.
Hope people enjoy it and Thanks to Dave for all those great synths, especially the P12!
Dennis
Wytch Crypt , I remember that well and commented back then how that was a lot of work. Fitting honor to the instrument line as well.
You mentioned "bailing SC", Soundcloud is not the biggest medium anymore, but I still use it as sort of a place to catalogue, plus the platform audio is pretty decent. Just curious as to your reason.
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Hi all,
Back in 2017 I posted a link to my album, "The Planets" which consists of the 7 pieces that make up Holst's "The Planets Op: 32" recorded entirely on a Prophet 12 Desktop. A few months later I took it down when I bailed Soundcloud. Well, with Dave's recent passing I wanted to honor his memory and accomplishments so decided to put the album back up. It now lives on my youtube channel in this playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz1Swndm9Og02b1mtO9PMBGH (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXm8aXRTFz1Swndm9Og02b1mtO9PMBGH)
I estimate about 80% of the sounds are my own with about 20% presets. The only additional processing was a little reverb from the Roland VS-1880 the album was recorded on.
Hope people enjoy it and Thanks to Dave for all those great synths, especially the P12!
Dennis
Wytch Crypt , I remember that well and commented back then how that was a lot of work. Fitting honor to the instrument line as well.
You mentioned "bailing SC", Soundcloud is not the biggest medium anymore, but I still use it as sort of a place to catalogue, plus the platform audio is pretty decent. Just curious as to your reason.
Hi Soundquest, I recall our original conversation when I first released this turned into a Tomita appreciation thread. I wanted this re-release to turn into a Dave Smith appreciation thread ;)
I bailed Soundcloud back then because I would have had to go to the paid version to add anything else and I wanted to organize my music differently and add more. BandCamp is free no matter how much I upload and optimized to present albums rather than individual songs which is a better fit for me. I setup my solo projects Mutiny in Jonestown & WytchCrypt on BandCamp where my other projects Morpheus and The Alchemy of Atlantis are in youtube playlists. Anything I want to share that might be covers or still have copyright claims I put on youtube. They'll flag and monetize which isn't great, but it allows me to post covers, where on BandCamp the terms make it very clear that you better own the copyright of everything you upload. Not sure if Soundcloud is as hard nosed about copyright as BandCamp, but I'm happy with the way I have things structured :)
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Great explanation, thanks.
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Nirgends by The Disease 8)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/XtTHjZT20TU[url] (https://youtu.be/XtTHjZT20TU)
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I'm finding another symbiotic pair for my Studio- P12 and the Vermona. Actually a trio if you count the Polyend sequencer. This song uses a Polyend sequencer to drive the steady background on the Vermona Perfourmer synth. Setting the EG attack rate on the VCOs and having each voice a little different on this synth makes for some interesting effects. I like paring this with the P12, which is doing everything else besides the main sequence. Actually used my bass pedal board tied to the P12 so, much of the meat of this is done in one track, then went back and put in some horns, subtle choir.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/inviting-hold
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Back at it again with the Vermona MK2 /P12 pair. I used the Polyend sequencer to drive the repetition, but you can hear the Vermona's growley side when I frequency modulate. Vermona is also the percussion track. P12 is played throughout with pads and female voice.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/mellow-groove
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So, here is my new drone album Rautapiha (Angrenost). The main "songs" (I, III, and VI) are P12 module only, and some minor tunes in between are done with Prologue 16.
The P12 drones are obviously based mainly on the use of the tuned feedback, distortion and character sections. What is maybe not so obvious is the exploitation of the delay bug. When increasing the level and feedback enough, the delays start behaving kind of weirdly (first the delays sync to each other no matter what time is set, and finally stop playing at all if there is too much feedback). But, being careful with the parameters, the delay section can produce strange rhythmic distorted landscapes on it's own. I think it has something to do with overloading of the delay buffers.
https://darkintervals.bandcamp.com/album/x-rautapiha
https://open.spotify.com/album/3KXzLPJYtIQ0qNyVtJ3X8T
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I guess I could put this in the general music category, but it does use the Prophet 12 for the pads, flutes, wind and french horn. It starts with a formant voicy patch which is Moog System V (software of course). The piano is an Omnisphere piano.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/fabled-chasm
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More P12 music. All P12 except the drums.
https://soundcloud.com/wavescape-1/minion-funk
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I recorded this demo of 100 patches for this excellent instrument:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4e52jLKA-c