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OTHER DISCUSSIONS => General Synthesis => Other Hardware/Software => Topic started by: LoboLives on April 12, 2022, 09:13:39 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIDsupuqz7c&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR29eNV-mntlXJajGD1XyHKkWy7Y3ItpErOrjINYIWd-bg0cYqCmZJiAS-E
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Wish list:
- Switchable X / Xa filter
- 12 voices
- Matrix/Xpander-style modulation routing, but with an easier user interface
- MPE
- Compact module format
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Very interesting - signed up for email updates so will wait and see :)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nPmuDW1t/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nPmuDW1t/)
And another video...
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nPmuDW1t/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nPmuDW1t/)
And another video...
Nice, so OBX instead of OBX-a huh? In color scheme at least, crossing fingers for filter switch.
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I wonder what this means regarding the next product we were expecting from Sequential - an OBXa. Has there been a change mid-course?
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I wonder what this means regarding the next product we were expecting from Sequential - an OBXa. Has there been a change mid-course?
No. The OB-X was always what was planned - as evidenced by Sequential’s registration of the trademark last year.
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X or Xa ... I'm looking forward to a real Oberheim synth very much.
I always wanted to have an oberheimy, some prophetish and a moogy synth. My Rev2 is prophetish enough until I can affort a P~10, I checked the moogy box with my matriarch and now I'm waiting for this Oberheim thing for as long as a lot of you do.
If this finally comes, my Rev2 has to play the Prophet role a little longer, since I want to complete my trio first. I can do a little refinement afterwards ;) (Not that I would sell my Rev2... it will stay my favorite synth on stage for its flexibility. But at home I want to have a P~10 sooner or later).
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nPmuDW1t/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Cc0nPmuDW1t/)
And another video...
Nice, so OBX instead of OBX-a huh? In color scheme at least, crossing fingers for filter switch.
The OBX also didn't have splits/layers like the Xa did.
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I wonder what this means regarding the next product we were expecting from Sequential - an OBXa. Has there been a change mid-course?
I actually don't think we'll see a product from Sequential this year. I think all the focus and resources will be going towards the OBX reissue for the Oberheim brand.
If there is a product from Sequential, it'll likely be something small and basic.
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Something is coming. :-X
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Something is coming. :-X
From Oberheim yes.
I don't think from Sequential.
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Something is coming. :-X
From Oberheim yes.
I don't think from Sequential.
:-X
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Something is coming. :-X
From Oberheim yes.
I don't think from Sequential.
:-X
They finally asked you to be a preset patch contributor? ;)
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I wish....
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Something is coming. :-X
From Oberheim yes.
I don't think from Sequential.
:-X
Don't you spoil the multitimbral kazoo with 15 comb filter types.
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Something is coming. :-X
From Oberheim yes.
I don't think from Sequential.
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Don't you spoil the multitimbral kazoo with 15 comb filter types.
Shh!! you're going to give a certain company a new batch of ideas for a bumper crop of teaser ads for vaporware products that will never be manufactured, but are instead a ruse for trying to up their brand recognition ;)
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Well, here it is:
https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3748355&fbclid=IwAR1W-8_kSsL-fQktZLbHeHpANfNm6daZB-OJKOU3zQK2DatG2mKCnFwtgTo#p3748355
OB-X8
8-voice, pure-analog polyphony with sine, saw, square, triangle, and noise
Two discrete SEM/OB-X-lineage VCOs per voice deliver classic punchy Oberheim tone
Discrete SEM-lineage VCFs deliver authentic OB-X-style tone and presence
Genuine Curtis filters add bold OB-Xa/OB-8 character
Meticulously modeled envelope responses match each OB model: OB-X, OB-Xa, and OB-8
The 61-key FATAR velocity- and touch-sensitive keyboard allows unparalleled expression and responsiveness
Bi-timbral capability allows two presets simultaneously for splits and doubles
400-plus factory programs, including the full set of factory sounds for the OB-X, OB-SX, OB-Xa, and OB-8
Integral, fanless, heatsink-free power supply
Real walnut end cheeks
High-resolution OLED display enables patch management and easy access to advanced features
Classic Oberheim Pitch and Mod levers allow expressive note bending, vibrato, and access to arpeggiator functions
Enhancements
Additional SEM Filter modes add high-pass, band-pass, and notch functions to the classic OB-X filter
Vintage knob allows variable amounts of voice-to-voice variability to emulate the behavior of vintage instruments
Velocity sensitivity adds expressiveness to volume and filter
Channel Aftertouch adds real-time performance-based modulation
Enhanced unison allows variable voice stacking from 1-8 voices
Variable triangle wave cross-modulation
Over 600 user-programmable preset locations
Programmable per-voice pan allows wider stereo presence
Variable oscillator and noise levels
Ins & Outs
Stereo and Mono outputs
Volume, Sustain, and Filter inputs
Arpeggiator clock input
MIDI In, Out, Thru
USB
MSRP: $5000
Release date: June
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Well, here it is:
https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3748355&fbclid=IwAR1W-8_kSsL-fQktZLbHeHpANfNm6daZB-OJKOU3zQK2DatG2mKCnFwtgTo#p3748355 (https://www.modwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3748355&fbclid=IwAR1W-8_kSsL-fQktZLbHeHpANfNm6daZB-OJKOU3zQK2DatG2mKCnFwtgTo#p3748355)
OB-X8
8-voice, pure-analog polyphony with sine, saw, square, triangle, and noise
Two discrete SEM/OB-X-lineage VCOs per voice deliver classic punchy Oberheim tone
Discrete SEM-lineage VCFs deliver authentic OB-X-style tone and presence
Genuine Curtis filters add bold OB-Xa/OB-8 character
Meticulously modeled envelope responses match each OB model: OB-X, OB-Xa, and OB-8
The 61-key FATAR velocity- and touch-sensitive keyboard allows unparalleled expression and responsiveness
Bi-timbral capability allows two presets simultaneously for splits and doubles
400-plus factory programs, including the full set of factory sounds for the OB-X, OB-SX, OB-Xa, and OB-8
Integral, fanless, heatsink-free power supply
Real walnut end cheeks
High-resolution OLED display enables patch management and easy access to advanced features
Classic Oberheim Pitch and Mod levers allow expressive note bending, vibrato, and access to arpeggiator functions
Enhancements
Additional SEM Filter modes add high-pass, band-pass, and notch functions to the classic OB-X filter
Vintage knob allows variable amounts of voice-to-voice variability to emulate the behavior of vintage instruments
Velocity sensitivity adds expressiveness to volume and filter
Channel Aftertouch adds real-time performance-based modulation
Enhanced unison allows variable voice stacking from 1-8 voices
Variable triangle wave cross-modulation
Over 600 user-programmable preset locations
Programmable per-voice pan allows wider stereo presence
Variable oscillator and noise levels
Ins & Outs
Stereo and Mono outputs
Volume, Sustain, and Filter inputs
Arpeggiator clock input
MIDI In, Out, Thru
USB
MSRP: $5000
Release date: June
Sold.
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Sold.
I was literally just getting ready to say the same thing. Although I'm going to add the caveat that I'm waiting for the desktop version, which I assume will be MSRP $3300 ish. In theory I *could* make room for the keyboard version but it would result in less than ideal ergonomics, I want this module sitting right in front of my primary MIDI controller with pitch and mod wheels instead of paddles. But yeah if it goes like a year with no announcement of desktop version I'd probably get the kb.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
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Sold.
I was literally just getting ready to say the same thing. Although I'm going to add the caveat that I'm waiting for the desktop version, which I assume will be MSRP $3300 ish. In theory I *could* make room for the keyboard version but it would result in less than ideal ergonomics, I want this module sitting right in front of my primary MIDI controller with pitch and mod wheels instead of paddles. But yeah if it goes like a year with no announcement of desktop version I'd probably get the kb.
Keep in mind the point of the paddles is to control the oscillators individually as opposed to one wheel controlling them both.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
In terms of where it fits on my sound pallette, I am expecting this synth to be to my P10 what my OB6 is to my P6..... a synth with an enormous amount of character that brings something truly special, at the expense of versatility of sound... Where the Prophet is more of a swiss army knife (I'm not kidding, the Rev4 can replicate the sound of acoustic instruments), I'm expecting the OBX8 to be unapologetically Oberheim sounding regardless of knob settings. I could always be wrong of course, but they are different tools for different jobs with the Prophet line being able to cover a lot more jobs.
But in terms of future resale value, you might be right simply because this could be Tom's swan song, and while it probably won't be the last synth made with the Oberheim name, it might be the last one he makes before retiring for good. And I guess Dave could retire at any time as well, but there are more of his synths available for sale, whereas the OBX8, in its current state, will be rare by comparison.
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Sold.
I was literally just getting ready to say the same thing. Although I'm going to add the caveat that I'm waiting for the desktop version, which I assume will be MSRP $3300 ish. In theory I *could* make room for the keyboard version but it would result in less than ideal ergonomics, I want this module sitting right in front of my primary MIDI controller with pitch and mod wheels instead of paddles. But yeah if it goes like a year with no announcement of desktop version I'd probably get the kb.
Keep in mind the point of the paddles is to control the oscillators individually as opposed to one wheel controlling them both.
Fair point, but with my style of playing I'm less likely to do that than I am to move the mod wheel to a certain position that's controlling something like channel vibrato, leave it there for a second or two then play with two hands, then move it back to original position etc. than I am to fiddle with two oscillators independently in real time.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
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Sold.
I was literally just getting ready to say the same thing. Although I'm going to add the caveat that I'm waiting for the desktop version, which I assume will be MSRP $3300 ish. In theory I *could* make room for the keyboard version but it would result in less than ideal ergonomics, I want this module sitting right in front of my primary MIDI controller with pitch and mod wheels instead of paddles. But yeah if it goes like a year with no announcement of desktop version I'd probably get the kb.
Keep in mind the point of the paddles is to control the oscillators individually as opposed to one wheel controlling them both.
Fair point, but with my style of playing I'm less likely to do that than I am to move the mod wheel to a certain position that's controlling something like channel vibrato, leave it there for a second or two then play with two hands, then move it back to original position etc. than I am to fiddle with two oscillators independently in real time.
That's assuming the paddles CAN control channel vibrato....which is unlikely given the approach of the synth.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
You win Mr. Spock. You win.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
You win Mr. Spock. You win.
Fortunately music isn't a sport to me and I wasn't hoping to win anything, I genuinely was trying to understand your thought.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
You win Mr. Spock. You win.
Fortunately music isn't a sport to me and I wasn't hoping to win anything, I genuinely was trying to understand your thought.
"Sometimes A Feeling Is All We Humans Have To Go On." ;)
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
You win Mr. Spock. You win.
Fortunately music isn't a sport to me and I wasn't hoping to win anything, I genuinely was trying to understand your thought.
"Sometimes A Feeling Is All We Humans Have To Go On." ;)
If you just meant you'd prefer it to the Rev4, then fair enough. I just think there may be an interesting discussion in there about synths as an investment (because increasingly, I do see them as such, in the true meaning of the word).
The OB-X and OB-Xa command higher prices on the used market compared to vintage P5, is that because there were less units made or because they were less durable and thus there are less remaining? Etc.. I'm a synth geek and into that sort of topic. I'm unqualified as a Star trek geek having literally never watched an entire episode nor seen any of the movies... I had to google your quote to understand the reference. lol
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
You win Mr. Spock. You win.
Fortunately music isn't a sport to me and I wasn't hoping to win anything, I genuinely was trying to understand your thought.
"Sometimes A Feeling Is All We Humans Have To Go On." ;)
If you just meant you'd prefer it to the Rev4, then fair enough. I just think there may be an interesting discussion in there about synths as an investment (because increasingly, I do see them as such, in the true meaning of the word).
The OB-X and OB-Xa command higher prices on the used market compared to vintage P5, is that because there were less units made or because they were less durable and thus there are less remaining? Etc.. I'm a synth geek and into that sort of topic. I'm unqualified as a Star trek geek having literally never watched an entire episode nor seen any of the movies... I had to google your quote to understand the reference. lol
I look at it in terms of value for money spent. Stereo signal, more memory, arpeggiator, dedicated splits/layer section etc. Compare that to a Prophet 10 REV4 barebones approach, it's hard to not feel that Dave should have just went a bit more further with the REV4 as Tom is doing with the OBX8. These aren't deal breakers for some obviously but to me the OBX8 feels more like a new instrument rather than a reissue with a few modern accommodations. Sort of like comparing the Two Voice Pro to the Moog Model D reissue. Tom seems to be a bit more forward thinking compared to the other analog synth brands of old in terms of reissues (I remember speaking with a rep from Korg about the ARP 2600 FS and I asked how do I clock the sequencer to a MIDI clock and then they realized....well...you can't....there's MIDI on the module but there's no way to sync the sequencer which was built into the keyboard and he even admitted that was an oversight).....Tom seems to have thought all the details through and I'm genuinely happy for him.
Something that's interesting to me coming from the Soundtrack world is that Prophets were EVERYWHERE and Oberheim OBX/as were barely anywhere. I've also noticed a lot of New Wave bands tended to gravitate towards the Prophet and more American rock bands were OBX/a oriented. I think because the Oberheim sound tends to cut through a mix better. Most of the soundtracks that had an Oberheim used the SEM Four Voice but any soundtracks that used an OBX/a almost always had it playing alongside a Prophet (Terminator) or orchestra (The Exterminator, Maniac Cop, Invasion U.S.A.). I think the only scores to feature an OBX/a solely was Rob Walsh's scores for Revenge Of The Ninja and Young Warriors. Just an OBXa, DMX drum machine and Les Paul.
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s
Do you mean for your particular needs or in terms of the future resell value?
Neither. For the money, it's a better investment based on it's capabilities and versatility of features compared to the P10
An investment means contributing something toward the goal of obtaining a greater future return. I'd like to understand your logic here. Subjective individual valuation aside (i.e. one musician preferring an Obie sound to a Prophet or whatever).... what is the future return of a synth?
You win Mr. Spock. You win.
Fortunately music isn't a sport to me and I wasn't hoping to win anything, I genuinely was trying to understand your thought.
"Sometimes A Feeling Is All We Humans Have To Go On." ;)
If you just meant you'd prefer it to the Rev4, then fair enough. I just think there may be an interesting discussion in there about synths as an investment (because increasingly, I do see them as such, in the true meaning of the word).
The OB-X and OB-Xa command higher prices on the used market compared to vintage P5, is that because there were less units made or because they were less durable and thus there are less remaining? Etc.. I'm a synth geek and into that sort of topic. I'm unqualified as a Star trek geek having literally never watched an entire episode nor seen any of the movies... I had to google your quote to understand the reference. lol
I look at it in terms of value for money spent. Stereo signal, more memory, arpeggiator, dedicated splits/layer section etc. Compare that to a Prophet 10 REV4 barebones approach, it's hard to not feel that Dave should have just went a bit more further with the REV4 as Tom is doing with the OBX8. These aren't deal breakers for some obviously but to me the OBX8 feels more like a new instrument rather than a reissue with a few modern accommodations. Sort of like comparing the Two Voice Pro to the Moog Model D reissue. Tom seems to be a bit more forward thinking compared to the other analog synth brands of old in terms of reissues (I remember speaking with a rep from Korg about the ARP 2600 FS and I asked how do I clock the sequencer to a MIDI clock and then they realized....well...you can't....there's MIDI on the module but there's no way to sync the sequencer which was built into the keyboard and he even admitted that was an oversight).....Tom seems to have thought all the details through and I'm genuinely happy for him.
Something that's interesting to me coming from the Soundtrack world is that Prophets were EVERYWHERE and Oberheim OBX/as were barely anywhere. I've also noticed a lot of New Wave bands tended to gravitate towards the Prophet and more American rock bands were OBX/a oriented. I think because the Oberheim sound tends to cut through a mix better. Most of the soundtracks that had an Oberheim used the SEM Four Voice but any soundtracks that used an OBX/a almost always had it playing alongside a Prophet (Terminator) or orchestra (The Exterminator, Maniac Cop, Invasion U.S.A.). I think the only scores to feature an OBX/a solely was Rob Walsh's scores for Revenge Of The Ninja and Young Warriors. Just an OBXa, DMX drum machine and Les Paul.
I definitely agree that the OBX8 seems more positioned as a new product thats based on the OBX/Xa rather than a reissue; and I wonder if this is because the specific sound of the original could not be faithfully reproduced, so maybe in part, it's a license to avoid a bunch of YT vids calling the new synth out for not being authentic enough? Personally I would fully understand if faithfully recreating the sound of the original well enough to call it a reissue weren't possible... Dave said himself the only way that recreating the P5 sound was even possible is because the same parts became available again, and as I understand it there are components in the original OBX that are most likely not being remanufactured. If it can the match sound of an OBX / Xa as the Rev4 does the Rev 1/2 and 3, then I'll be happy. If it comes no closer than the OB-6 to the vintage sound, I will likely be disappointed, but I'm optimistic (not even cautiously so -- just simply optimistic).
In terms of what it offers for the dollar compared to the Rev4, I'll evaluate the bang for buck a bit more once I fully understand the feature set. On one hand it is stereo as you pointed out, but it has two less voices and a lot less wood than my P10, with a MSRP of $600 more. Preset storage is pretty similar, oscillators I assume are same (3340), it does have a screen which I both appreciate and almost wish it didn't at the same time (I know that sounds strange but I love the fully retro look and spartan readout on my P10), so perhaps the real value provided the screen will depend on how it is used -- for example, (in addition to the obvious such as being able to see patch names) it could be used to more easily guide the user through keypress sequences that unveil new firmware features in a way that's much nicer than memorizing key combinations, and prevent buyers from knocking their wheels (err.. paddles in this case) out of calibration by accident, etc.
The whole Prophet vs OBX phenomenon has always been interesting to me. As a Gen-Xer I grew up loving American rock... I started playing the drums at age 5 (first toy drums then nice Ludwig kit), and was at a near professional level in terms of skill by age 7-8. But as an adolescent, MTV happened and introduced me to British new wave and I found synthesizers to be more of a true passion as I was also becoming a budding software developer at the time and enjoyed watching the marriage of music and computers.... So Dave Smith has pointed out, back in the day their were Prophet guys and their were Obie guys. I suppose I was more of a Prophet guy in terms of the types of songs each were famous for... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me, nor did other synth-heavy rock. I liked the OBX/a for its overall sound and the relatively rare use of it in new wave. Fast forward to now, and I could still probably say the same... if I had to choose between the P6 and the OB6 for example, I'd take the P6 simply because it's more versatile. I totally get why some feel the other way around, but I always look at the total number of uses I might use a synth for.
I had never really thought about OBX or OBXa fitting better into mixes... I guess it depends on the mix, but I always think of them as a somewhat fatter sound than the Prophet, which often means they demand more elbow room in the mix (scooping away other harmonics and giving the fatter synth its personal space), but at the same time with the 2 pole filter on the OB6, it has a very "sizzley" sound which does often give it a certain prominence. I think of Obies as more wanting to stand out in the mix and make it their own... while the Prophet patches tend to be more willing and open to finding a niche inside the mix, and cooperating with other sounds to let the player determine what role it should play, while being more than willing to jump out of the box and break down walls if commanded to do so. For the TVS, FVS etc. I'm honestly not sure never having played one, but I do find that sometimes synths with less voices and/or less oscillators are in fact easier to work into a mix simply because they carve out their groove in a very distinctive way.
One way or the other, I assume that since the OBX8 is neither a OBX or OBXa, but rather kind of both in one, that we will not see "purist" reissues of the original. And for that reason I will most likely need to buy one of these. I'm still going to wait a while, keep eyes and ears open on reviews, and hold out for a desktop announcement.
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... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me…
Blasphemer! 😂😂😂
All joking aside, I always found it odd that one of the most famous “Oberheim sounds” is the simplest to make. Slightly detune the saws and open up that filter. Done.
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... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me…
Blasphemer! 😂😂😂
All joking aside, I always found it odd that one of the most famous “Oberheim sounds” is the simplest to make. Slightly detune the saws and open up that filter. Done.
Eddie was a skilled and creative guitarist, but when Jump hit the radio it was kind of like "look Eddie got a new toy!"... lol. It seemed to me more or less just stuck onto their music as a novelty. It is interesting that the intro it became such a ubiquitous riff for demoing synths though -- playing it can tell the ear a lot about the overall sound of an instrument.
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... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me…
Blasphemer! 😂😂😂
All joking aside, I always found it odd that one of the most famous “Oberheim sounds” is the simplest to make. Slightly detune the saws and open up that filter. Done.
Don't forget the open 1984 track. That was all OBXa in split mode as well which actually shows a bit more musicality I think.
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... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me…
Blasphemer! 😂😂😂
All joking aside, I always found it odd that one of the most famous “Oberheim sounds” is the simplest to make. Slightly detune the saws and open up that filter. Done.
Eddie was a skilled and creative guitarist, but when Jump hit the radio it was kind of like "look Eddie got a new toy!"... lol. It seemed to me more or less just stuck onto their music as a novelty. It is interesting that the intro it became such a ubiquitous riff for demoing synths though -- playing it can tell the ear a lot about the overall sound of an instrument.
Gene Simmons talked about this after Eddie passed. Eddie wanted to do something different and didn't want to do a guitar oriented track anymore. When they previewed the song to Gene and others, everyone was like "You can't have a Van Halen song without a guitar!" so Eddie through a small solo in to compliment the keyboard solo. They told him it would be a huge flop and their fans would be disappointed.
Well...
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... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me…
Blasphemer! 😂😂😂
All joking aside, I always found it odd that one of the most famous “Oberheim sounds” is the simplest to make. Slightly detune the saws and open up that filter. Done.
Eddie was a skilled and creative guitarist, but when Jump hit the radio it was kind of like "look Eddie got a new toy!"... lol. It seemed to me more or less just stuck onto their music as a novelty. It is interesting that the intro it became such a ubiquitous riff for demoing synths though -- playing it can tell the ear a lot about the overall sound of an instrument.
Gene Simmons talked about this after Eddie passed. Eddie wanted to do something different and didn't want to do a guitar oriented track anymore. When they previewed the song to Gene and others, everyone was like "You can't have a Van Halen song without a guitar!" so Eddie through a small solo in to compliment the keyboard solo. They told him it would be a huge flop and their fans would be disappointed.
Well...
In rock bands, a lot of times there was friction between guitar players (who are notorious for wanting to steal the show) and keyboard players, because synths can dominate the mid range and drown out guitars. So I think in some ways Eddie was trying to get in front of all that by being the keyboard guy if a keyboard guy was needed.
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The real question with this Oberheim announcement to me is....what's next? Will newly made OB6s have the original Oberheim Logo? (That might actually make me want to buy one lol), will we see the Two Voice Pro re-released? Will Tom's Eurorack modules or SonOfFourVoice concept happen or is this simply a one and done swansong?
Regardless, I'm happy he got to see this happen.
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The real question with this Oberheim announcement to me is....what's next? Will newly made OB6s have the original Oberheim Logo?
They already do.
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The real question with this Oberheim announcement to me is....what's next? Will newly made OB6s have the original Oberheim Logo?
They already do.
Haven't seen a single picture or video to confirm this.
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... I liked Van Halen but honestly "Jump" never impressed me…
Blasphemer!
All joking aside, I always found it odd that one of the most famous “Oberheim sounds” is the simplest to make. Slightly detune the saws and open up that filter. Done.
Eddie was a skilled and creative guitarist, but when Jump hit the radio it was kind of like "look Eddie got a new toy!"... lol. It seemed to me more or less just stuck onto their music as a novelty. It is interesting that the intro it became such a ubiquitous riff for demoing synths though -- playing it can tell the ear a lot about the overall sound of an instrument.
Gene Simmons talked about this after Eddie passed. Eddie wanted to do something different and didn't want to do a guitar oriented track anymore. When they previewed the song to Gene and others, everyone was like "You can't have a Van Halen song without a guitar!" so Eddie through a small solo in to compliment the keyboard solo. They told him it would be a huge flop and their fans would be disappointed.
Well...
In rock bands, a lot of times there was friction between guitar players (who are notorious for wanting to steal the show) and keyboard players, because synths can dominate the mid range and drown out guitars. So I think in some ways Eddie was trying to get in front of all that by being the keyboard guy if a keyboard guy was needed.
Speaking of synths and rock and roll… I’d love to see Oberheim roll out some demos featuring Jens Johansson! 😂🤘🤘😂👀
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The real question with this Oberheim announcement to me is....what's next? Will newly made OB6s have the original Oberheim Logo?
They already do.
Haven't seen a single picture or video to confirm this.
7.52 onwards in this video:
https://youtu.be/w1qM0wVEkac
And confirmed elsewhere in a GS or Sequential forum thread I read from a new buyer.
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The real question with this Oberheim announcement to me is....what's next? Will newly made OB6s have the original Oberheim Logo?
They already do.
Haven't seen a single picture or video to confirm this.
7.52 onwards in this video:
https://youtu.be/w1qM0wVEkac
And confirmed elsewhere in a GS or Sequential forum thread I read from a new buyer.
Strange the Sequential stock photo hasn't been updated then like it was with the REV2.
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@Paul Can we go ahead and get an OB-X8 thread? I know this isn’t actually a Sequential synth, but with the recent collaborative efforts of Dave and Tom, it seems fitting.
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@Paul Can we go ahead and get an OB-X8 thread? I know this isn’t actually a Sequential synth, but with the recent collaborative efforts of Dave and Tom, it seems fitting.
It could potentially be placed alongside the TORAIZ topic.
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@Paul Can we go ahead and get an OB-X8 thread? I know this isn’t actually a Sequential synth, but with the recent collaborative efforts of Dave and Tom, it seems fitting.
There you go.
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@Paul Can we go ahead and get an OB-X8 thread? I know this isn’t actually a Sequential synth, but with the recent collaborative efforts of Dave and Tom, it seems fitting.
There you go.
Thanks!
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I've seen pictures frommusicradar, and seems, there is only lowpass filter, nk filter mode knob at all ;-(
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I've seen pictures frommusicradar, and seems, there is only lowpass filter, nk filter mode knob at all ;-(
"Additional SEM Filter modes add high-pass, band-pass, and notch functions to the classic OB-X filter"
Maybe it's a menu option?
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I see quite a bit of backlash online in regards to the color/look of the synth. Although it's the same look as the original OBX, I do wonder if the reaction is going to spark a Black/blue line OBXa/OB6 style option.
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I see quite a bit of backlash online in regards to the color/look of the synth. Although it's the same look as the original OBX, I do wonder if the reaction is going to spark a Black/blue line OBXa/OB6 style option.
Back in the day I never considered the original OBX a beautiful instrument. However, because of its iconic status, the history and nostalgia behind the design makes the otherwise drab color scheme beautiful these days.
Once a re-issue of a design (I do understand this is not a synth re-issue but many of the design aspects are reissued here) starts to deviate from the original, it can become a bit risky or polarizing, because then the design no longer has the nostalgia alone to hold it up.
There are two primary cosmetic elements of the OBX8 that I think make it look considerably different form an OBX:
1) The area behind the control panel where the OBX logo went.... I assume this was present on the original to accomodate electrical components that are not present in the new model and / or help with heat dissipation and thus tuning stability
2) The black rubberized trim along the edges of the end cheeks
For #1 -- I'm sure that was probably a tough call. The original OBX was a huge synth designed primarily for professional musicians, while these days overall size and bulk of a synth can be a sink or swim proposition in a market where many buyers are enthusiasts with limited space in a bedroom studio, with lots of small-profile or software alternatives available. It probably didn't make business sense to add hugely to the weight and size just to be able to say the case is like the original. Even if the additional footprint didn't hurt sales, at minimum it would have had lots of whiners on GS shedding tears of angst.
For #2 -- I actually think the black edges are an important part of the look of the original OBX, because looking at it from the top it allows the edges to blend nicely with the case and black label backgrounds, where brown does tend to clash with the color scheme a bit. Fortunately this is a very easy thing to remedy if one wanted.. Coat the edges with black plastidip for a temporary solution that's relatively easy to "undo" if desired, or just get a second set of wooden end cheeks and paint the edges or all of them black. I will say I think the particular wood pattern and color of the end cheeks is a bold choice that I have not yet completely warmed up to (especially since it looks different than the original wood), but it's nothing that would impact my desire to own the synth.
I'm holding out for a desktop version, where none of this will matter much to me. I actually like the color scheme from a practical standpoint because I like to design sounds and write music in dim light, so a white font on black background becomes a very good thing, even moreso as my eyes begin to age. In the lighting conditions I prefer, I struggle to see the grey fonts above the number buttons on the Prophets 5 and 6; thankfully these are less frequently accessed functions so its not a big deal, but the white fonts of the OB6 are easier on the eyes.
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I don't know if I'd call this a competitor, but here it is..
Lots of features... the sound? uhh.... never mind. I guess it's one of those "you get what you pay for" situations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUKX5QB_x1g
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Seems like it's a better investment than the Prophet 5/10 REV 4s