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Title: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 21, 2019, 10:22:04 PM
Full Disclosure:  This is my new venture...


I've sampled my Deckard's Dream and just finishing up the accompanying presets.

Here are the specs:
• 182 multi-sampled instruments for the Sequential Prophet X
• over 31,000 individual stereo samples
• over 19 GB of sample content
• 256 custom presets (a full bank of both A and B Layers)
• Will be available soon


In the meantime, I have some free samples and presets available for download:  www.modulatable.com


and a promo video with some sounds here:


https://youtu.be/C6hUpOgnQBs
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Gerry Havinga on June 22, 2019, 02:52:38 AM
Full Disclosure:  This is my new venture...


I've sampled my Deckard's Dream and just finishing up the accompanying presets.

Here are the specs:
• 182 multi-sampled instruments for the Sequential Prophet X
• over 31,000 individual stereo samples
• over 19 GB of sample content
• 256 custom presets (a full bank of both A and B Layers)
• Will be available soon


In the meantime, I have some free samples and presets available for download:  www.modulatable.com


and a promo video with some sounds here:


https://youtu.be/C6hUpOgnQBs
Oh yes please wonderful, thank you.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 22, 2019, 11:28:36 PM
Changed my mind about doing this commercially. 
The samples are online and free to download. 
I'm still doing presets for these samples and and will have those available as soon as I am done.


http://www.modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/


I've also repurposed this website to act as a bit of a repository for User Samples.  It's a bit cumbersome for people to use Drop Box and Google Drive to send samples around.  Anyone wanting to host their samples on the site, just shoot me an email.  Make sure, of course, that you're samples are legally yours to share.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Lady Gaia on June 23, 2019, 07:38:15 AM
That’s incredibly generous of you.  Thank you for all the hard work and for contributing so much to the Prophet X community.  I’m very much looking forward to checking them out!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 23, 2019, 07:51:05 AM
That’s incredibly generous of you.  Thank you for all the hard work and for contributing so much to the Prophet X community.  I’m very much looking forward to checking them out!

I didn’t start this project as a commercial idea... I just wanted to get some Deckards Dream {“DD”} sounds into the PX for further mangling and layering.... and we are fortunate enough that you make a bit of software that made this a possibility.

So I did a few presets, liked the results and liked what I was able to do with them in the PX, then I just programmed a lot more and sampled them all. It was only toward the end that I thought “this has commercial value” - because that’s how my head works.

*Someone* reminded me (I think accidentally on their part, but I’m thankful for it regardless) that I didn’t start this as a commercial venture. And I don’t really want the “ecoutrements” that come along with a commercial sound design business.

As was my intention from the beginning, I sampled this synth treating it much more like a traditional instrument. Instead of sampling waveforms, I sampled entire instrument presets in order to capture the true magic of this synth — the interaction between the oscillators, filters, envelopes, LFOs and modulation. I thought: you don’t just sample the reed of the saxophone do you?

Adding the modulation capabilities and filters of the Prophet X to the DD’s samples produces (in my opinion) some deep and lush results. One trick I used (a lot) in the presets I’ve done so far is to have the same sample set loaded in both Instrument slots, then have Instrument 1 bypass the Prophet X filter while Instrument 2 doesn’t — keep in mind that the samples contain the sound of the DD’s filters and envelope’s already anyway. So one instrument (with just the DD filters) layered with the second instrument (having both the DD filters and the PX filters) — in my opinion, the results are gorgeous.

I also created true stereo samples from the DD — even though it is a mono instrument — using some stereo imaging.

Here’s another “trick” I used — especially where I had lots of round-robins in the sample set... load the same sample set into both instrument slots, pan one mostly left and the other mostly right, then use velocity and/or a random LFO or both to slightly adjust the sample start time on each side AND use velocity and/or a random LFO to modify the Cutoff L and R by slightly different amounts — you start getting to the point where this doesn’t sound like samples anymore.

Anyway, enough jabbering, I’ll have 256 presets online for all to enjoy soon (both A and B Layers in a full bank of 128).

If anyone else comes up with cool presets using these samples, I’d love to hear them.

Also, the offer to host the community’s User samples is a sincere one.  I hope people take me up on it (unless of course there is already something set up for sharing samples that I’ve missed?)

Cheers to all and Enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Redrain68 on June 23, 2019, 01:27:05 PM
I've downloaded the zip file but I have a warning error "corrupted file", but now I'm extracting ....
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 23, 2019, 01:35:01 PM
I've downloaded the zip file but I have a warning error "corrupted file", but now I'm extracting ....
Just curious.  Are you on a Mac or PC?  It shouldn't matter.  .Zip files are universal...
Several folks on GS seems to have downloaded without any issues.
Let me know.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Redrain68 on June 23, 2019, 01:45:19 PM
PX, HD is formatted NTFS, now i'm trying for the second time....
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 24, 2019, 02:38:50 PM

Update on the Deckard's Dream Samples:


I'm about finished making presets for these samples, and when done I will provide the presets for all 4 user banks so you can choose where you want to install them (shout out to Lady Gaiai for suggesting an easy way to copy from one banks to another)...


Also in doing these presets, I've resampled a few of the instruments....   And couple that with the fact that some people are having issues downloading the .zip file (I think because the file is almost 20GB in size)... Once I'm done with the presets / resamples, I will re-upload as several smaller .zip files of around 800MB or so each.  That should be small enough to make it easier for more people to download the files without any issues.  I'll be done with all of this *hopefully* by the weekend.


Rock on, kids!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Redrain68 on June 24, 2019, 03:04:57 PM
My problem is the extraction not the download, so the next attempt may be to upload the PX folder not compressed. (the PX file are already generated in compressed format so...)


Update on the Deckard's Dream Samples:


I'm about finished making presets for these samples, and when done I will provide the presets for all 4 user banks so you can choose where you want to install them (shout out to Lady Gaiai for suggesting an easy way to copy from one banks to another)...


Also in doing these presets, I've resampled a few of the instruments....   And couple that with the fact that some people are having issues downloading the .zip file (I think because the file is almost 20GB in size)... Once I'm done with the presets / resamples, I will re-upload as several smaller .zip files of around 800MB or so each.  That should be small enough to make it easier for more people to download the files without any issues.  I'll be done with all of this *hopefully* by the weekend.


Rock on, kids!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: mildwest on June 24, 2019, 03:42:17 PM

Update on the Deckard's Dream Samples:


I'm about finished making presets for these samples, and when done I will provide the presets for all 4 user banks so you can choose where you want to install them (shout out to Lady Gaiai for suggesting an easy way to copy from one banks to another)...


Also in doing these presets, I've resampled a few of the instruments....   And couple that with the fact that some people are having issues downloading the .zip file (I think because the file is almost 20GB in size)... Once I'm done with the presets / resamples, I will re-upload as several smaller .zip files of around 800MB or so each.  That should be small enough to make it easier for more people to download the files without any issues.  I'll be done with all of this *hopefully* by the weekend.


Rock on, kids!

But if we use Blue Wave and move your samples to another bank we still have up repoint all the presets right? Or does that solve this too?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 24, 2019, 03:50:04 PM

Update on the Deckard's Dream Samples:


I'm about finished making presets for these samples, and when done I will provide the presets for all 4 user banks so you can choose where you want to install them (shout out to Lady Gaiai for suggesting an easy way to copy from one banks to another)...


Also in doing these presets, I've resampled a few of the instruments....   And couple that with the fact that some people are having issues downloading the .zip file (I think because the file is almost 20GB in size)... Once I'm done with the presets / resamples, I will re-upload as several smaller .zip files of around 800MB or so each.  That should be small enough to make it easier for more people to download the files without any issues.  I'll be done with all of this *hopefully* by the weekend.


Rock on, kids!

But if we use Blue Wave and move your samples to another bank we still have up repoint all the presets right? Or does that solve this too?
The presets would need to be pointed at the new sample locations. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: mildwest on June 24, 2019, 03:50:32 PM
Also, not to be a pest but if one of the zips  you plan to create can just have the updated presets so we don’t have to download all of them again I and I am sure others that downloaded already would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 24, 2019, 03:53:05 PM
Also, not to be a pest but if one of the zips  you plan to create can just have the updated presets so we don’t have to download all of them again I and I am sure others that downloaded already would appreciate it.
Already thought of that... and plan to do so.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: mildwest on June 24, 2019, 04:39:41 PM
Also, not to be a pest but if one of the zips  you plan to create can just have the updated presets so we don’t have to download all of them again I and I am sure others that downloaded already would appreciate it.
Already thought of that... and plan to do so.

You’re awesome. Thank you for everything.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on June 25, 2019, 06:03:43 PM
The presets would need to be pointed at the new sample locations. Unfortunately.

I've put together a simple command-line tool that will renumber a specified sample group in the Prophet X/XL Program Data Dump SysEx file. Initial tests seem to work. I just need to do a little clean up, write a bit of documentation, and make it available. I'll aim to make it available in the next day or so, barring interrupts. (No more work on it, today.) fyi.

One of the tests was running on the previously released Deckard's Dream Presets to change from U8 to U5, for example, leaving everything else as it was.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 25, 2019, 06:41:32 PM
The presets would need to be pointed at the new sample locations. Unfortunately.

I've put together a simple command-line tool that will renumber a specified sample group in the Prophet X/XL Program Data Dump SysEx file. Initial tests seem to work. I just need to do a little clean up, write a bit of documentation, and make it available. I'll aim to make it available in the next day or so, barring interrupts. (No more work on it, today.) fyi.

One of the tests was running on the previously released Deckard's Dream Presets to change from U8 to U5, for example, leaving everything else as it was.
That’s awesome... Sequential needs to put you and Lady Gaia on the payroll.


I’m totally fine with command line tools, but it will beyond the grasp of average users.  Any chance of putting a simple GUI on top of it.
By the way, I’m almost done with the presets, and I have resampled some of the instruments so that will get an update as well.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Lady Gaia on June 25, 2019, 09:22:10 PM
Thanks for taking the lead on this one, JK!  Much appreciated.  Frankly, I wonder if a command line tool for sample pack authors isn’t sufficient for the time being.  It’s not like every individual user needs to do the work, just the the original creator run a quick script to produce an array of .syx variations (ddream-u4-u07 for preset bank 4, sample bank 8, etc.)  Let users download the variant that meets their needs.

Sure, in the long run a nice UI would be ideal but that’s typically a whole lot more work than the raw command-line functionality.  Especially for both Windows and macOS.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 25, 2019, 10:14:09 PM
It’s not like every individual user needs to do the work, just the the original creator run a quick script to produce an array of .syx variations (ddream-u4-u07 for preset bank 4, sample bank 8, etc.)  Let users download the variant that meets their needs.
That certainly seems simple enough.  And .syx files are small enough to just include all 32 variations in one .zip file.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on June 26, 2019, 02:20:29 AM
I really appreciate all the work you are both putting in to this, LG and Mr Compose.

How does this solve the problem of samples though? The presets will still surely need to see the samples at specific locations within a bank and if you, or another vendor already has samples there, the problems remain.

Stephen

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 26, 2019, 05:57:17 AM
How does this solve the problem of samples though? The presets will still surely need to see the samples at specific locations within a bank and if you, or another vendor already has samples there, the problems remain.
The problem would be solved since:


1) you can load samples into any of the 8 user sample banks by simply changing in the folder on your usb drive (u07, u06, u05...)


and


2) preset banks once made can be easily converted to all iterations (8 user sample banks x 4 user preset banks = 32 possible combinations). Ideally, anyone making presets for their samples would provide 32 .syx files all zipped together in one file for download, then the end user can just choose the one that suits their needs.


For example, you want to use the Deckards Dream samples in user sample bank 5 and have the presets in user preset bank 3.  Simply change the name of the sample folder on the USB drive from “u07” to “u04” (which is sample bank 5), then load the corresponding presets .syx on your Prophet X.  I would use an easy naming scheme for the preset banks — for example, “DeckardsDream_S5_P3.syx”


Not so cumbersome, and imminently flexible.


Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: mildwest on June 26, 2019, 06:58:40 AM
How does this solve the problem of samples though? The presets will still surely need to see the samples at specific locations within a bank and if you, or another vendor already has samples there, the problems remain.
The problem would be solved since:


1) you can load samples into any of the 8 user sample banks by simply changing in the folder on your usb drive (u07, u06, u05...)


and


2) preset banks once made can be easily converted to all iterations (8 user sample banks x 4 user preset banks = 32 possible combinations). Ideally, anyone making presets for their samples would provide 32 .syx files all zipped together in one file for download, then the end user can just choose the one that suits their needs.


For example, you want to use the Deckards Dream samples in user sample bank 5 and have the presets in user preset bank 3.  Simply change the name of the sample folder on the USB drive from “u07” to “u04” (which is sample bank 5), then load the corresponding presets .syx on your Prophet X.  I would use an easy naming scheme for the preset banks — for example, “DeckardsDream_S5_P3.syx”


Not so cumbersome, and imminently flexible.
This is rad. Been waiting to install until all is sorted and I can do it all in one go, but I am excited. These sound great and I love everything you showcased in the brief demo video. Definitely a unique flavor for the X and since I will never own a CS-80 and highly unlikely to have a Deckard's Dream this is the next best thing.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on June 26, 2019, 07:59:42 AM
How does this solve the problem of samples though? The presets will still surely need to see the samples at specific locations within a bank and if you, or another vendor already has samples there, the problems remain.
The problem would be solved since:


1) you can load samples into any of the 8 user sample banks by simply changing in the folder on your usb drive (u07, u06, u05...)


and


2) preset banks once made can be easily converted to all iterations (8 user sample banks x 4 user preset banks = 32 possible combinations). Ideally, anyone making presets for their samples would provide 32 .syx files all zipped together in one file for download, then the end user can just choose the one that suits their needs.


For example, you want to use the Deckards Dream samples in user sample bank 5 and have the presets in user preset bank 3.  Simply change the name of the sample folder on the USB drive from “u07” to “u04” (which is sample bank 5), then load the corresponding presets .syx on your Prophet X.  I would use an easy naming scheme for the preset banks — for example, “DeckardsDream_S5_P3.syx”


Not so cumbersome, and imminently flexible.

Might be being dumb here (it happens!), but ...

 But how does that overcome the problem of the positions of the samples themselves in the banks? How do the presets know which sample numbers to use?

For example I may have to put the DD samples in bank 2 location 50-70 because every other location is filled.

Or are you assuming all samples will start from 02. ? Moving existing sample numbers using LG's program will cause all other presets to lose their parent/child connections.

Stephen

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: duppyman on June 26, 2019, 08:10:02 PM
I don't think any of us know how to thank you enough. I think you should add a link to tip you on the site. This is so generous! Very very muxh appreciated and couldn't have picked a cooler synth to do it with IMO.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 26, 2019, 09:41:58 PM
I don't think any of us know how to thank you enough. I think you should add a link to tip you on the site. This is so generous! Very very muxh appreciated and couldn't have picked a cooler synth to do it with IMO.
Thank you for the compliment, and enjoy.

Note to all: I’m on track to have the Presets finished and available tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on June 27, 2019, 01:28:27 AM
I don't think any of us know how to thank you enough. I think you should add a link to tip you on the site. This is so generous! Very very muxh appreciated and couldn't have picked a cooler synth to do it with IMO.

I agree—there seems to be a great community building up here. Thanks to those who take the time to create tools for the X.

LG's software has already saved me hours of work.

Stephen
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 27, 2019, 10:57:58 PM
The Presets are available here:  http://modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/


There are 256 Presets in one User bank (both A and B layers of all 128 preset locations).


One small .zip file contains the presets file for each of the 4 User Banks so you can choose where you want to put them.   And yes, hopefully you'll be able to move the samples to another User Sample bank and have the presets redirected to the new sample locations -- ComposerJK is graciously working on a utility for that.




Going Forward....
There are some samples in this pack that I want to redo, and since some folks have had some problems downloading the extremely large sample file, as I re-sample the instrument, I will upload smaller zip files as updates to the original... 500 to 600 MB or so each file. These smaller files will contain all sample instruments that were in the original file (or their updated versions), so those who were unable to download the original large file will still be able to download everything. Hopefully that will solve the issue of some people not being able to download the samples. 


Enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: laurentluigi on June 28, 2019, 12:50:05 AM
That's super class !!!

Thank You very much !!!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on June 28, 2019, 01:05:44 AM
The Presets are available here:  http://modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/


There are 256 Presets in one User bank (both A and B layers of all 128 preset locations).


One small .zip file contains the presets file for each of the 4 User Banks so you can choose where you want to put them.   And yes, hopefully you'll be able to move the samples to another User Sample bank and have the presets redirected to the new sample locations -- ComposerJK is graciously working on a utility for that.




Going Forward....
There are some samples in this pack that I want to redo, and since some folks have had some problems downloading the extremely large sample file, as I re-sample the instrument, I will upload smaller zip files as updates to the original... 500 to 600 MB or so each file. These smaller files will contain all sample instruments that were in the original file (or their updated versions), so those who were unable to download the original large file will still be able to download everything. Hopefully that will solve the issue of some people not being able to download the samples. 


Enjoy!

Thanks again—these sound superb. Do let us know if you decide to add a donate button.

Stephen
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Nokki on June 28, 2019, 04:15:46 AM
The Presets are available here:  http://modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/


There are 256 Presets in one User bank (both A and B layers of all 128 preset locations).


One small .zip file contains the presets file for each of the 4 User Banks so you can choose where you want to put them.   And yes, hopefully you'll be able to move the samples to another User Sample bank and have the presets redirected to the new sample locations -- ComposerJK is graciously working on a utility for that.




Going Forward....
There are some samples in this pack that I want to redo, and since some folks have had some problems downloading the extremely large sample file, as I re-sample the instrument, I will upload smaller zip files as updates to the original... 500 to 600 MB or so each file. These smaller files will contain all sample instruments that were in the original file (or their updated versions), so those who were unable to download the original large file will still be able to download everything. Hopefully that will solve the issue of some people not being able to download the samples. 


Enjoy!


This only works if you have the samples in User 8 right? :)

Thank you for everything! - the samples are amazing!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Nokki on June 28, 2019, 05:58:53 AM
Also, the samples in the Keyboard section have a lot of the same names as the synth samples but at the end of each name there is the Letter ´W´

What is the difference between the samples in the synth and keyboard banks that have the same name? :)

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on June 28, 2019, 06:39:29 AM
This only works if you have the samples in User 8 right? :)

For the ones Shaw posted, yesterday, that's correct. Last night, I sent copies of those presets renumbered to reference each of the other sample group slots. So, I'm sure there will be an update with those, soon. If I had read my email about a half hour earlier, Shaw might have been able to post them last night. fyi,
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 28, 2019, 08:05:13 AM
This only works if you have the samples in User 8 right? :)

For the ones Shaw posted, yesterday, that's correct. Last night, I sent copies of those presets renumbered to reference each of the other sample group slots. So, I'm sure there will be an update with those, soon. If I had read my email about a half hour earlier, Shaw might have been able to post them last night. fyi,
Thank you very much @ComposerjK!


I will have those online later today.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 28, 2019, 08:07:12 AM
Also, the samples in the Keyboard section have a lot of the same names as the synth samples but at the end of each name there is the Letter ´W´

What is the difference between the samples in the synth and keyboard banks that have the same name? :)
The “W” versions are just the looped portions of the samples with the same name without the attack portion.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Nokki on June 28, 2019, 09:26:41 AM
Also, the samples in the Keyboard section have a lot of the same names as the synth samples but at the end of each name there is the Letter ´W´

What is the difference between the samples in the synth and keyboard banks that have the same name? :)
The “W” versions are just the looped portions of the samples with the same name without the attack portion.

Just out of curiosity, do you use both versions of the samples in the presets? - just wondering because of hard drive space could then effectively be cut in half in regards to the samples :)

BTW the community that is forming here is so awesome! I hope we all take you as an example and share our samples with each other using your depository
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 28, 2019, 09:43:22 AM
Also, the samples in the Keyboard section have a lot of the same names as the synth samples but at the end of each name there is the Letter ´W´

What is the difference between the samples in the synth and keyboard banks that have the same name? :)
The “W” versions are just the looped portions of the samples with the same name without the attack portion.

Just out of curiosity, do you use both versions of the samples in the presets? - just wondering because of hard drive space could then effectively be cut in half in regards to the samples :)

BTW the community that is forming here is so awesome! I hope we all take you as an example and share our samples with each other using your depository
In some cases, I use both versions in the same preset.  The -w versions take up much less HD space, but the full versions are way more interesting sonically.



Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 28, 2019, 01:13:59 PM
New presets file is now available online for download:  http://modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/



This presets file contains every possible combination of User Preset Banks and Sample Banks — there are 32 possible combinations.
And the naming convention makes it easy to select the right SysEx file to send to your Prophet X.
So for example, if you want to have the samples in User Sample Bank 8, and your presets in User Preset Bank 1, you would use the file named "UserBank1-SampleU8.syx".


*** Special thanks to "ComposerJK" on the Sequential forum for creating a command line utility for redirecting banks of presets.

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on June 28, 2019, 01:17:58 PM
New presets file is now available online for download:  http://modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/



This presets file contains every possible combination of User Preset Banks and Sample Banks — there are 32 possible combinations.
And the naming convention makes it easy to select the right SysEx file to send to your Prophet X.
So for example, if you want to have the samples in User Sample Bank 8, and your presets in User Preset Bank 1, you would use the file named "UserBank1-SampleU8.syx".


*** Special thanks to "ComposerJK" on the Sequential forum for creating a command line utility for redirecting banks of presets.

Thanks again for doing this.

But just to confirm–the samples have to be in predefined numbers in those banks?

Stephen
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on June 28, 2019, 01:57:16 PM

But just to confirm–the samples have to be in predefined numbers in those banks?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Petroffufo on June 29, 2019, 07:26:44 AM
shaw, I have a deckard's dream synthesizer, can you put the patches in the format for this synthesizer?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: laurentluigi on June 30, 2019, 06:43:40 AM
Hello everyone,

Samples Dowloaded (Finally...)
Samples installed.....

One word....

HUGE !!!!!!!!!!!

For all the Px users ... this is a "must have" !!!!!!

Mr Shaw, again, i would like to thank You !!!!

If someone had a idea how to tip Mr Shaw "ClassMan" !!!!
I'm in !!

Back to Px.

Bye everyone !
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on July 02, 2019, 11:10:46 AM
*** Special thanks to "ComposerJK" on the Sequential forum for creating a command line utility for redirecting banks of presets.

[ Some other deadlines caused a little delay on releasing this command-line tool, though I did manage to make adjustments in time for the Deckard's Dream release. ]

Here's the alpha test release v0.1 of px-preset-sample-renumber (https://synthmanage.com) to renumber the sample groups in a Prophet X/XL SysEx Program Data dump .syx file. There are macOS and Windows binaries. Let me know if you might want to use this on a different system, e.g., some version of Unix, and I'll see about adding a build for it.

Using the example of Deckard's Dream presets stored in UserBank4-SampleU8.syx (presets in U4, samples in sample group U8), to create a .syx with the presets referencing the samples in group U5, one would run the following command from a Terminal/shell/command window:

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:; ./px-preset-sample-renumber -f 8 -t 5 -o UserBank4-SampleU5.syx UserBank4-SampleU8.syx

[ The :; is just a Terminal/shell prompt. ]

If the filename specified with the -o argument, e.g., UserBank4-SampleU5.syx, already exists, the program will exit, as it won't overwrite an existing file. There are also optional arguments to only show the summary of changes, -s, or to be quiet entirely, -q.

The bank numbers to the from (-f) and to (-t) arguments should be as the user sees, a number from 1 to 8. The -o output filename option specifies the output file. Those arguments and the input filename are all required.

I'll also add (or as a separate tool) a way to renumber preset banks.

Hope this makes sense and helps some folk. Let me know if you have any questions.

When more tools are available, I'll move this one to a separate page on https://synthmanage.com. For now, it lives at the top level of the site, partially due to being thrown together, quickly.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on July 03, 2019, 01:04:27 AM
Thanks so much for doing this—can't wait to try it out.

Could save me hours of work!

Regards

*** Special thanks to "ComposerJK" on the Sequential forum for creating a command line utility for redirecting banks of presets.

[ Some other deadlines caused a little delay on releasing this command-line tool, though I did manage to make adjustments in time for the Deckard's Dream release. ]

Here's the alpha test release v0.1 of px-preset-sample-renumber (https://synthmanage.com) to renumber the sample groups in a Prophet X/XL SysEx Program Data dump .syx file. There are macOS and Windows binaries. Let me know if you might want to use this on a different system, e.g., some version of Unix, and I'll see about adding a build for it.

Using the example of Deckard's Dream presets stored in UserBank4-SampleU8.syx (presets in U4, samples in sample group U8), to create a .syx with the presets referencing the samples in group U5, one would run the following command from a Terminal/shell/command window:

Code: [Select]
:; ./px-preset-sample-renumber -f 8 -t 5 -o UserBank4-SampleU5.syx UserBank4-SampleU8.syx

[ The :; is just a Terminal/shell prompt. ]

If the filename specified with the -o argument, e.g., UserBank4-SampleU5.syx, already exists, the program will exit, as it won't overwrite an existing file. There are also optional arguments to only show the summary of changes, -s, or to be quiet entirely, -q.

The bank numbers to the from (-f) and to (-t) arguments should be as the user sees, a number from 1 to 8. The -o output filename option specifies the output file. Those arguments and the input filename are all required.

I'll also add (or as a separate tool) a way to renumber preset banks.

Hope this makes sense and helps some folk. Let me know if you have any questions.

When more tools are available, I'll move this one to a separate page on https://synthmanage.com. For now, it lives at the top level of the site, partially due to being thrown together, quickly.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on July 03, 2019, 08:10:39 AM
Thanks so much for doing this—can't wait to try it out.

Could save me hours of work!

I also just added the following example-script.sh to the px-preset-sample-renumber (https://synthmanage.com/) package. It is similar to what I did to process Shaw's Deckard's Dream presets. Though, at the time, I just quickly typed the code within the shell command-line. Perhaps it'll be useful. I could also generalize it, further, if desired.

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#!/bin/bash
#
# Sample script, part of px-preset-sample-renumber tool.
# --Jeff Kellem, @composerjk
# https://synthmanage.com/
#
# Example Bash script to process multiple Prophet X/XL SysEx Program Data
# dump files with px-preset-sample-renumber to renumber the referenced
# sample banks.
#
# Assumptions in this example:
#    UserBankX.syx == programs/presets stored in UX, e.g., U1
#    and has at least some presets referencing sample group U8 samples.
#
# This code will create UserBank1-SampleU1.syx through UserBank4-SampleU7.syx
# renumbers any referenced U8 sample group samples to each matching SampleUx
# group x.
# For example UserBank2-SampleU5.syx will have:
#   - programs/presets in U2
#   - sample groups that were U8 in the original UserBank2.syx will
#     now be referenced as U5 in those programs/presets.
#
for f in UserBank[1234].syx
do
   for n in {1..7}
   do
      px-preset-sample-renumber -f 8 -t $n -o ${f%%.syx}-SampleU${n}.syx $f
      done
   done
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: blewis on July 03, 2019, 09:53:43 AM
I’m wondering out loud about the -f from argument. Why is it needed? Seems the main objective is where I want to move the preset too. Where it came from doesn’t seem to matter and if I’ve got a random sysex file, I might not even know.

Edit: ah, you’re using it to find out what folder the samples to be moved are currently located in.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on July 03, 2019, 10:16:27 AM
I’m wondering out loud about the -f from argument. Why is it needed? Seems the main objective is where I want to move the preset too. Where it came from doesn’t seem to matter and if I’ve got a random sysex file, I might not even know.

Edit: ah, you’re using it to find out what folder the samples to be moved are currently located in.

The presets/programs in the Program Data .syx file might reference samples in other groups, not just U8, but Factory, Add-On, or other User sample groups. So, those get ignored. Only the sample group references indicated by -f N are renumbered.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 03, 2019, 10:23:44 AM
The presets/programs in the Program Data .syx file might reference samples in other groups, not just U8, but Factory, Add-On, or other User sample groups. So, those get ignored. Only the sample group references indicated by -f N are renumbered.
I’m glad you thought that through... I used a few Factory Samples in the presets I made for the Deckards Dream samples.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: blewis on July 03, 2019, 10:49:01 AM
Thank you. Got it now. Didn’t think of the “hands off” for samples I don’t want to move.

Thanks for your effort!

I’m wondering out loud about the -f from argument. Why is it needed? Seems the main objective is where I want to move the preset too. Where it came from doesn’t seem to matter and if I’ve got a random sysex file, I might not even know.

Edit: ah, you’re using it to find out what folder the samples to be moved are currently located in.

The presets/programs in the Program Data .syx file might reference samples in other groups, not just U8, but Factory, Add-On, or other User sample groups. So, those get ignored. Only the sample group references indicated by -f N are renumbered.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 16, 2019, 11:06:01 PM
Hey gang,


I resampled these to get cleaner sounding samples, and I renamed the pack to "Replicants" in case Black Corporation wants to be bullish on the name "Deckard's Dream".


It's all available here:  http://modulatable.com/Replicants/


The sample pack has slimmed down a bit to around 18GB.  I have divided the download into 20 smaller zip files for easier downloading.  And I tweaked some of the presets (also available at the link above). Most of the presets are the same, so if you've done your own preset tweaking and don't want to trying combining banks, you probably don't need to download the new presets.   Most of them are the same, and the ones that were tweaked were only done so slightly.   One exception:  there is a new sample instrument (10 Keyboards // 86. SF) and there is a preset buried somewhere in the 256 that uses that new sample instrument.


Enjoy, and as always, feedback welcomed.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on July 17, 2019, 01:04:24 PM
Shaw

I didn't suppose you could put up the whole lot as a single file again as well?

That worked for me.


I understand if you'd rather not!

Once again, thanks for these.

Hey gang,


I resampled these to get cleaner sounding samples, and I renamed the pack to "Replicants" in case Black Corporation wants to be bullish on the name "Deckard's Dream".


It's all available here:  http://modulatable.com/Replicants/


The sample pack has slimmed down a bit to around 18GB.  I have divided the download into 20 smaller zip files for easier downloading.  And I tweaked some of the presets (also available at the link above). Most of the presets are the same, so if you've done your own preset tweaking and don't want to trying combining banks, you probably don't need to download the new presets.   Most of them are the same, and the ones that were tweaked were only done so slightly.   One exception:  there is a new sample instrument (10 Keyboards // 86. SF) and there is a preset buried somewhere in the 256 that uses that new sample instrument.


Enjoy, and as always, feedback welcomed.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 17, 2019, 01:15:29 PM
Shaw

I didn't suppose you could put up the whole lot as a single file again as well?

That worked for me.
I don't mind doing that...  It will just take a little time for me to upload the file.
Will update when done.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on July 17, 2019, 01:21:57 PM
Lovely! Thanks.

Stephen

Shaw

I didn't suppose you could put up the whole lot as a single file again as well?

That worked for me.
I don't mind doing that...  It will just take a little time for me to upload the file.
Will update when done.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 17, 2019, 05:36:15 PM
For those preferring one large downloadable file for the Replicants samples, it's now available online:  http://modulatable.com/Replicants/


Enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: StephenJamesBennett on July 18, 2019, 01:02:01 AM
Thanks!

Regards

For those preferring one large downloadable file for the Replicants samples, it's now available online:  http://modulatable.com/Replicants/


Enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 19, 2019, 05:42:58 AM
Hey gang,


I wasn’t getting a good enough download / upload speed from the servers modulatable.com was hosted with, so I migrated the site to Amazon AWS servers.  I’m seeing much better download / upload speeds from my location (Eastern half of the U.S.), and others have commented that they are getting much faster downloads from the West coast of the U.S.


Anyone who may have given up in frustration, please retry. The Amazon servers are about as good as exist. 


When you go to the download page, you’ll know you’re on the new server if you see a yellow banner saying that I’ve moved the site to Amazon AWS servers.  If you don’t see the yellow banner, check back in a day.  Sometimes it takes a while for server changes to propagate through systems... and you may need to clear your web browsers cache.


Cheers, enjoy, and as always, feedback is welcomed!

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: blewis on July 19, 2019, 10:06:26 AM
I downloaded the raw samples and installed them yesterday/last night. I haven’t lodes the presets yet. But browsing through the raw samples, you’ve done an amazing job! Lots of samples, some with several layers, reasonable looping from what I can tell.

Fantastic. You’re a rock star dude.

You mentioned how you got stereo-ish samples from the mono output before. Can you talk about that again please?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 19, 2019, 11:45:15 AM
I downloaded the raw samples and installed them yesterday/last night. I haven’t lodes the presets yet. But browsing through the raw samples, you’ve done an amazing job! Lots of samples, some with several layers, reasonable looping from what I can tell.

Fantastic. You’re a rock star dude.

You mentioned how you got stereo-ish samples from the mono output before. Can you talk about that again please?
I hope you take the time to load the presets.  I think there are some really nice hidden gems in there, and great starting points for creating sounds.


As for getting stereo samples, I primarily used the Deckard's Dream Expander -- a mono in, stereo out analog effects rack with Ring Modulator, Chorus, Tremolo, Delay, and Reverb.  I found that using just a touch of effects did a nice jog of spreading out the sound.  A touch of chorus and Reverb (hardly enough to even notice) just did some magic on a lot of sounds.  For a few of the samples I used an Eventide Harmonizer just to create a bit of a stereo image, but most of the samples, I used the Deckard's Expander.


I think in my next project will use the Eventide box more.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: mildwest on July 21, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
I downloaded the raw samples and installed them yesterday/last night. I haven’t lodes the presets yet. But browsing through the raw samples, you’ve done an amazing job! Lots of samples, some with several layers, reasonable looping from what I can tell.

Fantastic. You’re a rock star dude.

You mentioned how you got stereo-ish samples from the mono output before. Can you talk about that again please?
I hope you take the time to load the presets.  I think there are some really nice hidden gems in there, and great starting points for creating sounds.


As for getting stereo samples, I primarily used the Deckard's Dream Expander -- a mono in, stereo out analog effects rack with Ring Modulator, Chorus, Tremolo, Delay, and Reverb.  I found that using just a touch of effects did a nice jog of spreading out the sound.  A touch of chorus and Reverb (hardly enough to even notice) just did some magic on a lot of sounds.  For a few of the samples I used an Eventide Harmonizer just to create a bit of a stereo image, but most of the samples, I used the Deckard's Expander.


I think in my next project will use the Eventide box more.

Shaw,

Just wow. I don't know what you did to make these all sound that much better, but you did a great job. It was really good before, but it is beyond outstanding now. I mean jaw dropping good stuff. Thank you.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 21, 2019, 03:39:50 PM
I downloaded the raw samples and installed them yesterday/last night. I haven’t lodes the presets yet. But browsing through the raw samples, you’ve done an amazing job! Lots of samples, some with several layers, reasonable looping from what I can tell.

Fantastic. You’re a rock star dude.

You mentioned how you got stereo-ish samples from the mono output before. Can you talk about that again please?
I hope you take the time to load the presets.  I think there are some really nice hidden gems in there, and great starting points for creating sounds.


As for getting stereo samples, I primarily used the Deckard's Dream Expander -- a mono in, stereo out analog effects rack with Ring Modulator, Chorus, Tremolo, Delay, and Reverb.  I found that using just a touch of effects did a nice jog of spreading out the sound.  A touch of chorus and Reverb (hardly enough to even notice) just did some magic on a lot of sounds.  For a few of the samples I used an Eventide Harmonizer just to create a bit of a stereo image, but most of the samples, I used the Deckard's Expander.


I think in my next project will use the Eventide box more.

Shaw,

Just wow. I don't know what you did to make these all sound that much better, but you did a great job. It was really good before, but it is beyond outstanding now. I mean jaw dropping good stuff. Thank you.
Thanks for the compliment.  Glad you’re enjoying them.
 
In a word, I was much more careful in gain-staging my sampling this time around.  I had previously underestimated how much the process of normalizing samples could exacerbate the noisiest of the Deckards output.  So this time around, my recorded samples are damned near normalized in their original form... Most needing less than 2 dB to be reach normalization, and very few needing more than 4 dB.


That made all the difference in the world.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: TracerAnalog on October 03, 2019, 02:17:14 PM
All, I feel I'm missing something when trying to install Replicants. Here are my steps so far:

1. Downloaded the samples and presets - success
2. Copied the px folder to a formatted USB drive - success
3. Added the presets to the px folder - success
4. Connected the USB drive to the Prophet X, pressed te appropriate update - failure. It didn't see the files.
5. Tried various versions of folder names, presets, put the preset in all subfolders... nothing.

What am I missing? The 8Dio add-on worked, so it's not a hardware failure or anything.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on October 03, 2019, 02:23:35 PM
All, I feel I'm missing something when trying to install Replicants. Here are my steps so far:

1. Downloaded the samples and presets - success
2. Copied the px folder to a formatted USB drive - success
3. Added the presets to the px folder - success
4. Connected the USB drive to the Prophet X, pressed te appropriate update - failure. It didn't see the files.
5. Tried various versions of folder names, presets, put the preset in all subfolders... nothing.

What am I missing? The 8Dio add-on worked, so it's not a hardware failure or anything.


Make sure your PX is set to add "User" samples not "Add-on".  That is a secondary selection when you go to Global Settings 30. Update Library.


Quote from the manual page 127:  "30 . Update Library: Factory, User 1-8, Add-On 1-32—Imports add-on sample libraries from a properly formatted USB flash drive/thumb drive (see “Formatting a USB Flash Drive” on page 120) connected to the sample import port on the rear of the Prophet X."


Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: TracerAnalog on October 03, 2019, 02:37:37 PM
Ha! That will help! Trying again tomorrow. Thanks for a swift reply to this Prophet X noob :)
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: papashark on October 04, 2019, 11:50:23 AM
Shaw, these samples sound great, thank you for making these available!

I'm having issues with certain presets that has no sound, and both sample instruments shows 'F/1. Ambience 1.------'. There's many like this in the 50's-90's presets, such as P50 Data Collection, P55 Interrupted Mist, P57 Cabin Fever, P60 A Good Joe, and others. Any idea what may be going on?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Connor on November 01, 2019, 03:46:22 AM
Has anyone done step by step instructions for installing both the samples and presets into the PX? I'm happy to have this in U1.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 01, 2019, 05:57:44 AM
Has anyone done step by step instructions for installing both the samples and presets into the PX? I'm happy to have this in U1.


Where do you want the samples? and where do you want the presets?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 01, 2019, 06:01:09 AM
Shaw, these samples sound great, thank you for making these available!

I'm having issues with certain presets that has no sound, and both sample instruments shows 'F/1. Ambience 1.------'. There's many like this in the 50's-90's presets, such as P50 Data Collection, P55 Interrupted Mist, P57 Cabin Fever, P60 A Good Joe, and others. Any idea what may be going on?


We’re able to get this resolved? It sounds like you simply don’t have all of the samples loaded.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Connor on November 01, 2019, 07:58:41 AM
Has anyone done step by step instructions for installing both the samples and presets into the PX? I'm happy to have this in U1.


Where do you want the samples? and where do you want the presets?

U1 would be fine by me for samples and presets. I'm limited to a 16GB USB 3.0...is there also a way to do this in stages ie .syx/'10 Keyboard'/'15 Synth' separately or via Mac rather than USB?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 01, 2019, 01:37:18 PM
U1 would be fine by me for samples and presets. I'm limited to a 16GB USB 3.0...is there also a way to do this in stages ie .syx/'10 Keyboard'/'15 Synth' separately or via Mac rather than USB?


Loading Samples:  just load half, then empty your USB drive and reload with the other half. 
.SYX cannot be used to load samples, but you can load the "10. Keyboards" folder of samples and then later load the "15. Synth" folder of samples if your USB drive doesn't have space for all of the samples.  No problem there.


Loading Presets:  This is where you use .syx files.  And when you download the presets .zip, there is a .syx file for every possible combination of Sample+Preset location.  So for example, if you want your Samples in folder "u01" (which on the PX is User Sample Bank 2), and you want your presets in the User Preset Bank 1, then you would use the .syx file named: "UserBank1-SampleU2.syx"
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Connor on November 01, 2019, 02:32:53 PM
U1 would be fine by me for samples and presets. I'm limited to a 16GB USB 3.0...is there also a way to do this in stages ie .syx/'10 Keyboard'/'15 Synth' separately or via Mac rather than USB?


Loading Samples:  just load half, then empty your USB drive and reload with the other half. 
.SYX cannot be used to load samples, but you can load the "10. Keyboards" folder of samples and then later load the "15. Synth" folder of samples if your USB drive doesn't have space for all of the samples.  No problem there.


Loading Presets:  This is where you use .syx files.  And when you download the presets .zip, there is a .syx file for every possible combination of Sample+Preset location.  So for example, if you want your Samples in folder "u01" (which on the PX is User Sample Bank 2), and you want your presets in the User Preset Bank 1, then you would use the .syx file named: "UserBank1-SampleU2.syx"

Thanks for coming back to me...OK let's skip the manual, you're saying I can load '10 Keyboard' and then '15 Synth' using Global>34. Update Library>'User'? Is the 'u07' folder under the 'px' folder relevant? Can I just copy '10 Keyboard' and then '15 Synth' straight to the 'px' folder without 'u07' folder and then upload the samples using Update Library or is the 'u07' folder critical?

Happy with Samples in folder "u01" and presets in the User Preset Bank 1, so will use "UserBank1-SampleU2.syx" as suggested. Which Global option should be used to add the .syx presets or is this done using a different method? If so what?

Also, looking at the Samples, I've got Factory, then Add-On 1 through Add-On 7...is using SampleU2 going to override the 8Dio stuff or are User samples separate from Add-On samples?

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 01, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
Thanks for coming back to me...OK let's skip the manual, you're saying I can load '10 Keyboard' and then '15 Synth' using Global>34. Update Library>'User'? Is the 'u07' folder under the 'px' folder relevant? Can I just copy '10 Keyboard' and then '15 Synth' straight to the 'px' folder without 'u07' folder and then upload the samples using Update Library or is the 'u07' folder critical?


OK, the ‘u07’ folder is very relevant. It works like this: there are 8 User Sample Banks. ( Banks 1 through 8 )
You determine where you place Samples within those 8 sample banks using the folders ‘u00’ through ‘u07’.
Don’t get confused there. The folder numbering system is one off from the User Bank numbers. So any samples in ‘u00’ will go into User Apl Bank 1, any samples in ‘u01’ will go into User Sample Bank 2, and so on.  So the folder (‘u00’, ‘u01’, ‘u02’, etc.) is crucial.  And then of course, writhing the ‘u00’ / ‘u01’ / ‘u02’... folder, there are category folders:  ‘10. Keyboards’, ‘15. Synths’, and so forth.  I think you get that part.

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Happy with Samples in folder "u01" and presets in the User Preset Bank 1, so will use "UserBank1-SampleU2.syx" as suggested.
Yes.  But when you download the Samples, you will see that they are in folder px/u07 and you just need to change the name of the u07 folder to u01.


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Which Global option should be used to add the .syx presets or is this done using a different method? If so what?
Nothing in Global settings.  Just transmit the preset bank you want to use ("UserBank1-SampleU2.syx") via a SysEx Data dump to the PX.

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Also, looking at the Samples, I've got Factory, then Add-On 1 through Add-On 7...is using SampleU2 going to override the 8Dio stuff or are User samples separate from Add-On samples?
Nothing will be overwritten.  Your Sample Banks become visible as you put samples in them.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Connor on November 02, 2019, 05:12:18 AM
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Happy with Samples in folder "u01" and presets in the User Preset Bank 1, so will use "UserBank1-SampleU2.syx" as suggested.
Yes.  But when you download the Samples, you will see that they are in folder px/u07 and you just need to change the name of the u07 folder to u01.

Got it...so glad I clarified, knew something wasn't quite right.

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Which Global option should be used to add the .syx presets or is this done using a different method? If so what?
Nothing in Global settings.  Just transmit the preset bank you want to use ("UserBank1-SampleU2.syx") via a SysEx Data dump to the PX.

Any special software need to do this (I'm using a Mac) or just the stock application when you connect the PX to the Mac?
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 02, 2019, 08:14:36 AM
Any special software need to do this (I'm using a Mac) or just the stock application when you connect the PX to the Mac?


https://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ (https://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/)


SysEx Librarian...  #GoogleIsYourFriend
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Connor on November 02, 2019, 09:35:24 AM
Any special software need to do this (I'm using a Mac) or just the stock application when you connect the PX to the Mac?


https://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/ (https://www.snoize.com/SysExLibrarian/)


SysEx Librarian...  #GoogleIsYourFriend

Thanks for your guidance and hard work 🙏☺️
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 02, 2019, 02:30:08 PM
Thanks for your guidance and hard work 🙏☺️
Let us know if you're able to get everything installed and working.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: papashark on November 12, 2019, 07:30:20 PM
Shaw, these samples sound great, thank you for making these available!

I'm having issues with certain presets that has no sound, and both sample instruments shows 'F/1. Ambience 1.------'. There's many like this in the 50's-90's presets, such as P50 Data Collection, P55 Interrupted Mist, P57 Cabin Fever, P60 A Good Joe, and others. Any idea what may be going on?


We’re able to get this resolved? It sounds like you simply don’t have all of the samples loaded.

Shaw, no I haven't been able to resolve this issue. I've re-downloaded the samples and re-installed them as well as the presets, and tried the loading the samples in different banks. Also, all the samples seem to be there, the presets that have no sound doesn't call up any samples in either instrument 1 or 2.

Could you perhaps tell me what the instruments are suppose to be on some of the presets that I listed above with no sounds? Maybe that'll help me root cause to some common denominator.

I wouldn't normally worry about it so much since 90% of the presets seem to work, but they sound so great that I don't want to miss out on any of the rest!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 12, 2019, 08:46:50 PM

Could you perhaps tell me what the instruments are suppose to be on some of the presets that I listed above with no sounds? Maybe that'll help me root cause to some common denominator.


Here's a list of Instruments that should be used by the presets you listed:

It appears perhaps you are missing some instruments.  Try starting with a "Basic Program" (Global Menu #30) and see if you can load Instruments 10. Keyboard - 79. Data Collection, or 10. Keyboard / 72. Interrupted Mist.

2 questions, Are the instruments even there?  If they are there, do they produce any sound.
The only Categories used in Replicants are "10. Keyboard" and "15. Synth".
The "10. Keyboard" category has instruments in every slot from 2 to 86.
The "15. Synth" category has instruments in ever slot, 2 to 99.

This should help us narrow down whether the issue lies in missing or un-addressable sample instruments (I believe that is the culprit), or corrupted programs.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: papashark on November 14, 2019, 06:37:02 PM
That worked! I was indeed missing many of the samples above 24 on 10.Keyboard. During unzipping winzip seems to have trouble with the sample names, in particular the "|" or piping character. Wonder if that had to do with the missing samples.

What was weird this time around during the loading of presets was that for some reason when transmitting the sysex through MIDI-OX, the PX would get stuck after loading the first few presets, and then not load anymore even though MIDI-OX shows the entire sysex transmitted. Finally after many tries, including having to unplug and re-plug the USB cable, the PX loaded all 128 presets. Hope it's not something going wrong with my PX..

Anyways, all samples and presets are there now and it sounds fabulous. Thanks again for your support!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 17, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
I've started sampling the Moog One.   You can grab a sample instrument and presets here:  http://modulatable.com/M1/

For now, the one instrument I have to share is this:  "Deckard" which loads into User8\Piano\88.Deckard.

The linked zip file also contains a program .syx file which has 1 program with both A and B layers.

Obviously the Moog One is not a CS-80, but isn't the Bladerunner style patch obligatory?  :)
This patch is a nice example of combining the two Moog Filters: Ladder and SVF.   Also, the samples themselves are truly stereo, using slightly different versions of the same patch hard panned left and right within the Moog One.

Enjoy.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: laurentluigi on November 18, 2019, 09:57:57 AM
Hello,
It sounds really great!!!
Thank You very much for sharing that super work.
😊
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on January 06, 2020, 05:35:53 PM
*** Special thanks to "ComposerJK" on the Sequential forum for creating a command line utility for redirecting banks of presets.

The px-preset-sample-renumber (https://synthmanage.com) tool has been updated to support Prophet X/XL OS v2.1.1 beta that includes 24 additional user sample groups, U1 to U32. This tool allows one to renumber the sample groups in a Prophet X/XL SysEx Program Data dump .syx file. There are macOS and Windows binaries. Let me know if you might want to use this on a different system, e.g., some version of Unix, and I'll see about adding a build for it.

In this alpha 0.3 version, I also added support for specifying Add-on and Factory sample group numbers. So, now, one can specify U8, 8, A23, or F for the -f and -t arguments. A number without a letter prefix indicates a user sample group, i.e., 8 and U8 are equivalent.

Using the example of Deckard's Dream presets stored in UserBank4-SampleU8.syx (presets in U4, samples in sample group U8), to create a .syx with the presets referencing the samples in group U32, one would run the following command from a Terminal/shell/command window:

Code: [Select]
:; ./px-preset-sample-renumber -f U8 -t U32 -o UserBank4-SampleU32.syx UserBank4-SampleU8.syx

[ The :; is just a Terminal/shell prompt. ]

Hope this makes sense and helps some folk. Let me know if you have any questions.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: sofine on February 13, 2020, 02:32:12 PM
I am having difficulty getting the renumbering utility to work. I think I understand the commands and relationship between samples, banks, presets etc. However, I am wondering how to run the actual program. Do I copy the exe to the folder where the syx file is and open cmd.exe, navigate to that folder and then enter the commands?

BTW, thanks to the fantastic community here for creating these tools and sharing wisdom :)
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on February 13, 2020, 02:59:27 PM
I am having difficulty getting the renumbering utility to work. I think I understand the commands and relationship between samples, banks, presets etc. However, I am wondering how to run the actual program. Do I copy the exe to the folder where the syx file is and open cmd.exe, navigate to that folder and then enter the commands?

BTW, thanks to the fantastic community here for creating these tools and sharing wisdom :)


If you're talking about the presets for the Replicants sample pack, you shouldn't need to use the renumbering utility.   I have already created 32 versions of the presets bank to cover every possible iteration of user preset banks and user sample banks (4 user preset banks x 8 user sample banks = 32 possibilities).


If you have updated to the latest firmware which opens up more User Sample Banks, I will release a download for the presets that account for all those new locations, I just haven't gotten around to that yet.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: sofine on February 14, 2020, 12:19:46 AM
I am having difficulty getting the renumbering utility to work. I think I understand the commands and relationship between samples, banks, presets etc. However, I am wondering how to run the actual program. Do I copy the exe to the folder where the syx file is and open cmd.exe, navigate to that folder and then enter the commands?

BTW, thanks to the fantastic community here for creating these tools and sharing wisdom :)


If you're talking about the presets for the Replicants sample pack, you shouldn't need to use the renumbering utility.   I have already created 32 versions of the presets bank to cover every possible iteration of user preset banks and user sample banks (4 user preset banks x 8 user sample banks = 32 possibilities).


If you have updated to the latest firmware which opens up more User Sample Banks, I will release a download for the presets that account for all those new locations, I just haven't gotten around to that yet.

Hi Shaw, no, I already have your super Replicants pack installed on my PX in U3 and sample slot 8! The challenge I am facing is to install the Goldbaby PPG, which defaults to U4 and sample slot 8. I was trying to avoid reinstalling your Replicants samples again and change the PPG samples to sample slot 4. I have installed the PPG samples to the PX (in slot 4) but I can't seem to get the renumbering utility to change the PPG syx file to look for the sample in slot 4 rather than 8.

It is most certainly user error on my side, I'm just wondering what the steps are to launch the renumbering program, file locations etc.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: composerjk on February 14, 2020, 08:40:03 AM
I am having difficulty getting the renumbering utility to work. I think I understand the commands and relationship between samples, banks, presets etc. However, I am wondering how to run the actual program. Do I copy the exe to the folder where the syx file is and open cmd.exe, navigate to that folder and then enter the commands?

BTW, thanks to the fantastic community here for creating these tools and sharing wisdom :)

Hi Shaw, no, I already have your super Replicants pack installed on my PX in U3 and sample slot 8! The challenge I am facing is to install the Goldbaby PPG, which defaults to U4 and sample slot 8. I was trying to avoid reinstalling your Replicants samples again and change the PPG samples to sample slot 4. I have installed the PPG samples to the PX (in slot 4) but I can't seem to get the renumbering utility to change the PPG syx file to look for the sample in slot 4 rather than 8.

It is most certainly user error on my side, I'm just wondering what the steps are to launch the renumbering program, file locations etc.

I'm not near a Windows box to verify, but I'll try to help. If the px-preset-sample-renumber.exe is in the same directory as the example-presets-u8-samples.syx (the PPG .syx), then open the Command Prompt (cmd.exe), cd to that directory, and run:
Code: [Select]
px-preset-sample-renumber.exe -f U8 -t U4 -o example-presets-u4-samples.syx example-presets-u8-samples.syx

That should renumber references to U8 samples to now reference U4 samples. The new filename (after the -o option) is the .syx that should hopefully work. Hope that makes sense.

If you still have issues or want me to try, send me a note and I can renumber it and verify the conversion happened.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: sofine on February 15, 2020, 02:37:14 AM
I am having difficulty getting the renumbering utility to work. I think I understand the commands and relationship between samples, banks, presets etc. However, I am wondering how to run the actual program. Do I copy the exe to the folder where the syx file is and open cmd.exe, navigate to that folder and then enter the commands?

BTW, thanks to the fantastic community here for creating these tools and sharing wisdom :)

Hi Shaw, no, I already have your super Replicants pack installed on my PX in U3 and sample slot 8! The challenge I am facing is to install the Goldbaby PPG, which defaults to U4 and sample slot 8. I was trying to avoid reinstalling your Replicants samples again and change the PPG samples to sample slot 4. I have installed the PPG samples to the PX (in slot 4) but I can't seem to get the renumbering utility to change the PPG syx file to look for the sample in slot 4 rather than 8.

It is most certainly user error on my side, I'm just wondering what the steps are to launch the renumbering program, file locations etc.

I'm not near a Windows box to verify, but I'll try to help. If the px-preset-sample-renumber.exe is in the same directory as the example-presets-u8-samples.syx (the PPG .syx), then open the Command Prompt (cmd.exe), cd to that directory, and run:
Code: [Select]
px-preset-sample-renumber.exe -f U8 -t U4 -o example-presets-u4-samples.syx example-presets-u8-samples.syx

That should renumber references to U8 samples to now reference U4 samples. The new filename (after the -o option) is the .syx that should hopefully work. Hope that makes sense.

If you still have issues or want me to try, send me a note and I can renumber it and verify the conversion happened.

Thanks a mill Jeff! I've realised that I had the order of the names of the original and new syx files in the wrong order. All good now. I appreciate your help, and of course, the renumbering tool!

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: CapnEd on March 13, 2020, 09:17:20 AM
This is great stuff! Thanks for all of your guidance and help Shaw!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on March 13, 2020, 09:39:58 AM
This is great stuff! Thanks for all of your guidance and help Shaw!


Glad you like... Enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: markcofer on April 03, 2020, 03:42:20 PM
Hey man.  I downloaded these.  They sound amazing! Thanks for your time and effort on these.  I know how long and difficult sampling can be!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on April 03, 2020, 03:48:34 PM
Hey man.  I downloaded these.  They sound amazing! Thanks for your time and effort on these.  I know how long and difficult sampling can be!
Glad you like them... Enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: eisblau on April 23, 2020, 04:43:49 PM
Hi, when I try to download the Replicants Samples on the modulate.com page, I get a 404 not found error on the full sample pack and the smaller zip files also.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on April 23, 2020, 05:08:47 PM
Hi, when I try to download the Replicants Samples on the modulate.com page, I get a 404 not found error on the full sample pack and the smaller zip files also.
Everything is there and working. Try deleting your browser cache.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: eisblau on April 24, 2020, 06:11:28 AM
Thank you Shaw, this helped.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on April 24, 2020, 06:16:26 AM
Thank you Shaw, this helped.
Excellent, enjoy!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: MajorOSC on July 12, 2021, 05:39:31 PM
Is the site no longer online? http://modulatable.com/Deckards_Dream/
Domain expired according to google. :(
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: thirteen_engines on July 14, 2021, 05:21:28 PM
I'm wondering if Shaw would be amenable to having a user on this forum share a copy of Deckards_Dream with me. I'm relatively new to the PX and missed my chance at downloading it from his web page.

Cheers,

Keith
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on July 14, 2021, 05:43:38 PM
Anyone wanting the Deckards Dream samples, just email me at modulatable.synthesis@gmail.com (modulatable.synthesis@gmail.com)


I’m happy to share.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: thirteen_engines on July 14, 2021, 06:09:20 PM
Cool! Emailing now.

Cheers,

Ketih
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: tim71725084 on July 27, 2021, 05:54:39 AM
Big Thank you to Shaw for generously sending me the Deckards Dream files :)
Tim
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: thirteen_engines on July 27, 2021, 07:30:37 AM
Big Thank you to Shaw for generously sending me the Deckards Dream files :)
Tim

Same here. Thanks Shaw.

Keith
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Vagonbreix on September 08, 2021, 10:11:34 AM
Big Thank you to Shaw for generously sending me the Deckards Dream files :)
Tim

Same here. Thanks Shaw.

Keith
hi, can anyone send me here,please?try to send an email to Shaw, but no answer.
mysticandquantum @ gmail.com
thanks!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on September 08, 2021, 10:19:56 AM
Big Thank you to Shaw for generously sending me the Deckards Dream files :)
Tim

Same here. Thanks Shaw.

Keith
hi, can anyone send me here,please?try to send an email to Shaw, but no answer.
mysticandquantum @ gmail.com
thanks!
I can email them to you later today…
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Vagonbreix on September 08, 2021, 11:30:08 AM
Big Thank you to Shaw for generously sending me the Deckards Dream files :)
Tim

Same here. Thanks Shaw.

Keith
hi, can anyone send me here,please?try to send an email to Shaw, but no answer.
mysticandquantum @ gmail.com
thanks!
I can email them to you later today…

thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: techiejunk06 on September 27, 2021, 06:43:47 AM
Thank you for all the hard work and for contributing so much to the Prophet X community.  I’m very much looking forward to checking them out!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: HelicopterDown on October 12, 2021, 10:06:38 AM
Full Disclosure:  This is my new venture...


I've sampled my Deckard's Dream and just finishing up the accompanying presets.

Here are the specs:
• 182 multi-sampled instruments for the Sequential Prophet X
• over 31,000 individual stereo samples
• over 19 GB of sample content
• 256 custom presets (a full bank of both A and B Layers)
• Will be available soon


In the meantime, I have some free samples and presets available for download:  www.modulatable.com


and a promo video with some sounds here:


https://youtu.be/C6hUpOgnQBs

It looks like the site no longer works, are you able to send me the file, or do you have another link?

Thanke!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: wreckington on November 23, 2021, 06:26:40 PM
Full Disclosure:  This is my new venture...



The website appears to be down. If anyone has a mirror or can share via a google drive or something I would greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: thirteen_engines on November 24, 2021, 05:51:26 AM

The website appears to be down. If anyone has a mirror or can share via a google drive or something I would greatly appreciate it.

Shaw is no longer selling his (excellent) sounds and presets and has decommissioned his web page. You can, however, contact him personally and politely ask if he might send you a copy, as I did some time ago.

Keith
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on November 24, 2021, 06:03:14 AM
@ all


Generally speaking, I am no longer selling samples / presets… however if you are interested in the Deckards Dream or MOOG One Samples, just PM me here and I will get them to you.

I’d only ask that you agree not to distribute / sell them.  Otherwise you are free to use them to perform / record / compose / make music.

Regards,

Shaw.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Shaw on August 09, 2022, 07:57:54 PM
Replicants Sample Banks:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UiFTxDk_IMtzsxl8B49qRexOfnC8gQmg/view?usp=sharing


Replicants Presets:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uornw0LIcWytroMq4ZXUHTjK2CpnLpNe/view?usp=sharing


Instructions (created for the Moog One Samples, but will get you there):  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ghhiymjf6yN21wSnw1v69TAMjY9vqzDh/view?usp=sharing

Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: Wasted on September 13, 2022, 03:10:19 AM
Thanks so much Shaw for this terrific content.

I'm having a slight problem with the patch names on the PX display - the even numbered patches are missing characters.

The loaded patches display like this:
U3 P1 26354
U3 P2 Bas   <
U3 P3 Pupil Dialation
U3 P4         <

Does anyone out there have a list of all the patch names, as I can then use KnobKraft to rename them.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: tempted11 on November 01, 2023, 03:13:55 AM
First of all

thank you Shaw, the samples sound fantastic!

but i cannot load them onto my PX

- my USB drive is fine, it worked with other packs
- i got enough space

- it shows the correct file size, but it only refreshes parameters and does not load samples

do the files still have to be zipped?

i used a downloader because the direct download always stopped after 50% or so,
and that downloader automatically unzipped the files.


thank you
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: tempted11 on November 01, 2023, 05:31:04 AM
EDIT: my problem is solved. I dl the zip again and unzipped it manually with the genuine mac archiver app, but only the large zip, not the single zips. Now the installing works.
Title: Re: Deckard's Dream Sample and Preset Pack
Post by: tempted11 on November 01, 2023, 05:36:12 AM
I've downloaded the zip file but I have a warning error "corrupted file", but now I'm extracting ....

I had the same problem but it worked fine using the mac archiver app and not the 3rd party app i also have