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SEQUENTIAL/DSI => OB-6 => Topic started by: John01W on August 23, 2018, 07:14:41 PM
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Awesome, thanks DSI so much! Discuss!
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DSI. I just have to say.....
You suck....
You suck so much of my time with your awesome instruments that give me meaningfull experiences. And with updates for these great instruments i get a feeling of being part of a community of commited and inspired people striving for the synergy of art and technology.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you<3
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They sucked me in. I just pulled the trigger on the desktop.
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<3 <3 <3
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Thanks. But I've noticed on my OB6 Desktop that some of the LEDs are having brightness problems since doing the upgrade. Mainly all the small ones (for the LFO waveforms, PW 1 and 2, Effects A and B, and Clock values from Half to 16th S) are all dim. Whereas the Clock 16th T and 32nd as well as Arpeggiator Octaves 1,2 and 3 and Mode Up through Assign are all normal brightness.
I've done the update twice, to make sure it wasn't a transfer glitch. Curiously, the behavior of the panel just after the transfer was finished, and just before the synth restarted itself, was different both times. The first time it looked like it was frozen, but the second time around there was a count down displayed in one of the windows on top (can't remember which one).
I've also done a Globals reset.
Has anyone else noticed some LEDs brightness inconsistencies after upgrading ?
EDIT: I've reverted back to 1.2.0 and all the LEDs are all back to equal brightness, so it's definitely something in the latest 1.3.7 messing up some LEDs brightness.
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Don't forget to write support directly if you're having problems.
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Can anyone elaborate on the new polychaining abilities of the keyboard + RME combination?
(Also, what bugs were there in the 1.2 OS? I haven’t got any in mine)
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Don't forget to write support directly if you're having problems.
Done.
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Installed the update late last night/this morning and I noticed something weird with the release of a note when the arp is on. Arp+Unison both on...Hold a chord and then release one of the notes. What happens? On mine when I release a note, all the other notes in the chord also stop playing. This happens with the new global 9 parameter on and off. Note priority (key mode) setting doesn't matter either. I performed the reset of the global parameters. I need to dig into this more today.
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Seems to be working correctly today. Weird.
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What does this do please?
Feature: New Global Param: Arp Beat Sync On/Off.
Ok found it: https://forum.davesmithinstruments.com/index.php?topic=1752.0
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I've noticed on my OB6 Desktop that some of the LEDs are having brightness problems since doing the upgrade. Mainly all the small ones (for the LFO waveforms, PW 1 and 2, Effects A and B, and Clock values from Half to 16th S) are all dim. Whereas the Clock 16th T and 32nd as well as Arpeggiator Octaves 1,2 and 3 and Mode Up through Assign are all normal brightness.
Follow-up. Got a response from Andy of DSI support telling me that they're aware of the problem and it has been put on the bugs-to-fix list.
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I've noticed on my OB6 Desktop that some of the LEDs are having brightness problems since doing the upgrade. Mainly all the small ones (for the LFO waveforms, PW 1 and 2, Effects A and B, and Clock values from Half to 16th S) are all dim. Whereas the Clock 16th T and 32nd as well as Arpeggiator Octaves 1,2 and 3 and Mode Up through Assign are all normal brightness.
Follow-up. Got a response from Andy of DSI support telling me that they're aware of the problem and it has been put on the bugs-to-fix list.
Thanks for the update on that issue Alain, watching intently.
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I've noticed on my OB6 Desktop that some of the LEDs are having brightness problems since doing the upgrade. Mainly all the small ones (for the LFO waveforms, PW 1 and 2, Effects A and B, and Clock values from Half to 16th S) are all dim. Whereas the Clock 16th T and 32nd as well as Arpeggiator Octaves 1,2 and 3 and Mode Up through Assign are all normal brightness.
Follow-up. Got a response from Andy of DSI support telling me that they're aware of the problem and it has been put on the bugs-to-fix list.
DSI already fixed your LED brightness bug Alain(awesome DSI!!), and polychain in a new beta!. Again, TY very much DSI!
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Interesting. Since updating yesterday, the LED's on the Transpose function have stopped working. Will be contacting support asap.
Thanks. But I've noticed on my OB6 Desktop that some of the LEDs are having brightness problems since doing the upgrade. Mainly all the small ones (for the LFO waveforms, PW 1 and 2, Effects A and B, and Clock values from Half to 16th S) are all dim. Whereas the Clock 16th T and 32nd as well as Arpeggiator Octaves 1,2 and 3 and Mode Up through Assign are all normal brightness.
I've done the update twice, to make sure it wasn't a transfer glitch. Curiously, the behavior of the panel just after the transfer was finished, and just before the synth restarted itself, was different both times. The first time it looked like it was frozen, but the second time around there was a count down displayed in one of the windows on top (can't remember which one).
I've also done a Globals reset.
Has anyone else noticed some LEDs brightness inconsistencies after upgrading ?
EDIT: I've reverted back to 1.2.0 and all the LEDs are all back to equal brightness, so it's definitely something in the latest 1.3.7 messing up some LEDs brightness.
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DSI already fixed your LED brightness bug Alain(awesome DSI!!), and polychain in a new beta!. Again, TY very much DSI!
Thanks for the heads-up John01W ! Downloaded and installed.
And thanks DSI for a quick response and solution ! 8) ;D
EDIT: Oops, it seems that the latest beta version has introduced yet another LED bug. All of the small rectangular LEDs are now of equal brightness, but now some of the program LEDs are sort of quarter lit (glowing faintly) randomly when selecting different programs, as well as the LEDs for Write, Globals, and Manual, depending on which program is lit.
Reverting back to 1.2.0 restaures everything back to normal again. Awaiting another beta version, since I want my $3000 synth to behave correctly as far as LEDs are concerned, as it does with 1.2.0.
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Hi,
is it now possible to turn off sending Programmchange ?
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Well this is worrying. After installing the 1.4.1 update my main outputs on my OB-6 Module no longer work. The headphone outputs work fine, but the main 1/4" outs are a no go. Tried rolling back to 1.20 and still no luck. Contacted support already, but thought I would give people a heads up. It might just be a weird coincidence they outputs died the same time I did the update, but just in case....
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Well this is worrying. After installing the 1.4.1 update my main outputs on my OB-6 Module no longer work. The headphone outputs work fine, but the main 1/4" outs are a no go. Tried rolling back to 1.20 and still no luck. Contacted support already, but thought I would give people a heads up. It might just be a weird coincidence they outputs died the same time I did the update, but just in case....
Ouch! Let us know what happens please, good luck man!
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With the holiday weekend I’m still waiting to hear back from support.
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Hi all (for Info),
I tried to update OB6keys to 1.3.7 which worked (with all known and mentioned bugs)
I tried to update to 1.4.1 - countdown and auto-power-off and on, but still 1.3.7. (Global+Save)
I tried to go backwards to 1.2.0 - countdown and auto-power-off and on, but still 1.3.7. (Global+Save)
Sound on all Outputs.
I did it with Win7-32, latest MIDIOX.
Can't fix it - support ist contacted.
PS: The update of the P6m to 1.5.4 worked fine.
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Issues I've reported to Sequential on this update. The listed buttons trigger the following LEDs in a DIM fashion:
PW1 on Xmod -> VCO2 on Aftertouch
Filter Freq on Xmod -> Shape 1 on Xmod
VCO1 on Aftertouch -> Filter Freq on LFO
Shape 1 on X-mod -> Amp on LFO
Pulse width 1 on LFO -> Filter mode on Xmod
Pulse width 2 on LFO -> Filter Freq on Xmod
Keyboard on VCO2 -> VCO1 on Aftertouch
Half on arp -> 8th T on arp
QTR on arp -> 16th on arp
8th D on arp -> 16th S on arp
8th on arp -> 16th T on arp
8th S on arp -> 32nd on arp
LFO Shape Sine -> Pulse Width 1 on LFO
LFO Shape Sawtooth -> Pulse Width 2 on LFO
LFO Shape Rev Saw -> Norm-BP on Xmod
LFO Shape square -> LFO Shape sine
LFO Shape Random -> LFO Shape sawtooth
Portamento Button -> LFO amount on Aftertouch
Hold button -> VCO1 on LFO
Effect on -> Button 9
CLK Sync -> Write button
Arpeggiator UP -> Filter BP
Arpeggiator Octave 1 -> Loudness envelope velocity
Arpeggiator Octave 2 -> Filter Envelope velocity
Manual button -> Button 4 + Norm-BP on Xmod
Other issues:
Loudness on Aftertouch is blinking to the tap tempo rate
8th D on arp is constantly lit
Arpeggiator Octave 1 is always lit
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Hi all,
the problem "no update possible" is solved thanks to the friendly customer support at DSI / Sequential.
After that experience I tried 1.4.1 and returned back to 1.2.0.
I will wait for the offical new version - thanks a lot to all testers.
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Hi all,
the problem "no update possible" is solved thanks to the friendly customer support at DSI / Sequential.
After that experience I tried 1.4.1 and returned back to 1.2.0.
I will wait for the offical new version - thanks a lot to all testers.
I feel ya, sounded scary there. I'm anxiously waiting, and I too appreciate all the testers.
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Tried the latest beta 1.4.9 firmware version. Still a slight problem with some LEDs brightness inconsistencies in the Clock section subdivisions (16th and 32nd very slightly brighter than all others). Moreover, the encoders are now jumpy as hell (compared to 1.4.1 or even 1.2.0). Oh, and the OB6 did not reboot itself after the update, so I had to power-cycle it.
Reverted back to 1.2.0 once again, until a 100% working firmware becomes available.
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Tried the latest beta 1.4.9 firmware version. Still a slight problem with some LEDs brightness inconsistencies in the Clock section subdivisions (16th and 32nd very slightly brighter than all others). Moreover, the encoders are now jumpy as hell (compared to 1.4.1 or even 1.2.0). Oh, and the OB6 did not reboot itself after the update, so I had to power-cycle it.
Reverted back to 1.2.0 once again, until a 100% working firmware becomes available.
Thanks for the update, I'm watching intently(as I suspect many others are too). It will all be ironed out before too long.
To all at Sequential: Sincerest thanks for the update/new features ;D
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It will all be ironed out before too long.
To all at Sequential: Sincerest thanks for the update/new features ;D
Of course it goes without saying, but perhaps I should have said it anyway ? ;)
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It will all be ironed out before too long.
To all at Sequential: Sincerest thanks for the update/new features ;D
Of course it goes without saying, but perhaps I should have said it anyway ? ;)
I didn't mean it like that ;D, I just appreciate the update, and appreciate you giving reports too(TY)
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Tried the latest beta 1.4.9 firmware version. Still a slight problem with some LEDs brightness inconsistencies in the Clock section subdivisions (16th and 32nd very slightly brighter than all others). Moreover, the encoders are now jumpy as hell (compared to 1.4.1 or even 1.2.0). Oh, and the OB6 did not reboot itself after the update, so I had to power-cycle it.
Reverted back to 1.2.0 once again, until a 100% working firmware becomes available.
Did you report this to support? Not sure they check here.
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Tried the latest beta 1.4.9 firmware version. Still a slight problem with some LEDs brightness inconsistencies in the Clock section subdivisions (16th and 32nd very slightly brighter than all others). Moreover, the encoders are now jumpy as hell (compared to 1.4.1 or even 1.2.0). Oh, and the OB6 did not reboot itself after the update, so I had to power-cycle it.
Reverted back to 1.2.0 once again, until a 100% working firmware becomes available.
Hello Alain,
I sent you an email through our technical support system yesterday. Have you received the email? I sent you an OB-6 OS with some LED tweaks which we would appreciate you testing in regards to the LED issues you noted on the 1.4.9 OS. Let me know whether you did not receive the email so I can send it again.
Thanks!
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Hello Alain,
I sent you an email through our technical support system yesterday. Have you received the email? I sent you an OB-6 OS with some LED tweaks which we would appreciate you testing in regards to the LED issues you noted on the 1.4.9 OS. Let me know whether you did not receive the email so I can send it again.
Thanks!
Hello Carson. I've tried to reply to you via personal messages here on the forum, but when I sent it, it was marked as "blocked by cbmd" ??
Anyway, I didn't receive anything other than a notice that I had a personal message from you waiting for me on the forum.
I've checked the spam folder too, and nothing there either.
I'd be glad to help out any way I can.
Did you use this address: hubertalain@hotmail.com
It's my public email address.
Thanks.
Alain.
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Oh yeah, I have my account set to have PMs off. Sorry about that. I'll forward my the email with the OS for you to try shortly.
Thanks for the reply!
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Can I update from 1.20 directly to 1.49? Does the latest update always include all the updates inbetween as well?
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Can I update from 1.20 directly to 1.49? Does the latest update always include all the updates inbetween as well?
Yes. It's a complete OS, not just a partial update.
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I just updated from 1.2.0 (got it new very recently) to 1.4.9 and all is good, as far as I can tell.
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I'm still on 1.2.0 and have had zero problems with my machine. What am I missing out on in the latest OS? With people having problems with the new updates, I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.
I just updated from 1.2.0 (got it new very recently) to 1.4.9 and all is good, as far as I can tell.
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I'm still on 1.2.0 and have had zero problems with my machine. What am I missing out on in the latest OS? With people having problems with the new updates, I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.
I just updated from 1.2.0 (got it new very recently) to 1.4.9 and all is good, as far as I can tell.
It's a substantial update with new features and bugfixes. It's a beta right now, so it's not the end version.
Copied from the link at the top of the OB-6 forum:
Feature: New Global Param: Arp Beat Sync On/Off. Global row 2 number 9
Feature: MIDI Out for the Arp/Sequencer - Param Xmit Global options CAS (CC + MIDI Out for arp/seq) and nAS (NRPN + MIDI Out for arp/seq)
Feature: Sequencer now transposes from keyboard/MIDI notes on UNISON patches
Fixed bug: Improved Polychain implementation and fixed bugs
Fixed bug: Various small bug fixes
It's an awesome update with some features OB-6 users have been asking for for a long time! Sequencer transpose, arp beat sync and more....Sequential has delivered.
Since it's a beta it's not the final version....just weeding out any bugs before final release. Still got time to add envelope slop( lol ;) Seriously though, I'm very thankful to the DSI/Sequential team for this update....thanks:)
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Thank you for the rundown! The new arp/sequencer functions sound right up my alley.
I'm still on 1.2.0 and have had zero problems with my machine. What am I missing out on in the latest OS? With people having problems with the new updates, I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.
I just updated from 1.2.0 (got it new very recently) to 1.4.9 and all is good, as far as I can tell.
It's a substantial update with new features and bugfixes. It's a beta right now, so it's not the end version.
Copied from the link at the top of the OB-6 forum:
Feature: New Global Param: Arp Beat Sync On/Off. Global row 2 number 9
Feature: MIDI Out for the Arp/Sequencer - Param Xmit Global options CAS (CC + MIDI Out for arp/seq) and nAS (NRPN + MIDI Out for arp/seq)
Feature: Sequencer now transposes from keyboard/MIDI notes on UNISON patches
Fixed bug: Improved Polychain implementation and fixed bugs
Fixed bug: Various small bug fixes
It's an awesome update with some features OB-6 users have been asking for for a long time! Sequencer transpose, arp beat sync and more....Sequential has delivered.
Since it's a beta it's not the final version....just weeding out any bugs before final release. Still got time to add envelope slop( lol ;) Seriously though, I'm very thankful to the DSI/Sequential team for this update....thanks:)
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Thank you for the rundown! The new arp/sequencer functions sound right up my alley.
I'm still on 1.2.0 and have had zero problems with my machine. What am I missing out on in the latest OS? With people having problems with the new updates, I'm not sure if it's worth the risk.
I just updated from 1.2.0 (got it new very recently) to 1.4.9 and all is good, as far as I can tell.
It's a substantial update with new features and bugfixes. It's a beta right now, so it's not the end version.
Copied from the link at the top of the OB-6 forum:
Feature: New Global Param: Arp Beat Sync On/Off. Global row 2 number 9
Feature: MIDI Out for the Arp/Sequencer - Param Xmit Global options CAS (CC + MIDI Out for arp/seq) and nAS (NRPN + MIDI Out for arp/seq)
Feature: Sequencer now transposes from keyboard/MIDI notes on UNISON patches
Fixed bug: Improved Polychain implementation and fixed bugs
Fixed bug: Various small bug fixes
It's an awesome update with some features OB-6 users have been asking for for a long time! Sequencer transpose, arp beat sync and more....Sequential has delivered.
Since it's a beta it's not the final version....just weeding out any bugs before final release. Still got time to add envelope slop( lol ;) Seriously though, I'm very thankful to the DSI/Sequential team for this update....thanks:)
Yes it's awesome....the arp is going to be so much more fun now, and the sequencer transpose is one folks have been asking for a long time, I'm excited to try it out myself!
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Anyone know why this is still Beta? I saw some comments about meaningful bugs in 1.4.9 and have not seen any further info. I'm also very excited to get the Sequencer and Arp upgrades. Anybody have real problems with 1.4.9 besides LEDs?
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Ciao
Sorry for my bad english
I wanted to know if doing the reset Global parameters after update . 1.5.5 (
global
button and press
write
) I lose the sounds created by me ??
Thx
Davide
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You shouldn't, but it's always a good idea to back them up before doing something like this just in case.
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I'm not sure if it's even possible as for as computation but I really think it would be awesome to add envelope slop and the super plate algorithm to the p6/ob6, I think it would increase sales of two already successful synth's and with the one having the black hole reverb it would really give them some legs in the future as well asake it more diverse for us sound designers. That would make my year.. :-[ :'(
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+1000 for env slop!
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How would they implement envelope slop?
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I'm not sure if it's even possible as for as computation but I really think it would be awesome to add envelope slop and the super plate algorithm to the p6/ob6, I think it would increase sales of two already successful synth's and with the one having the black hole reverb it would really give them some legs in the future as well asake it more diverse for us sound designers. That would make my year.. :-[ :'(
Yup envelope slop, long requested myself as well and it FITS with the theme of the synth(very obish too, would bring out even more of that character that people crave)
Everyone asked for another LFO and we know that's NOT going to happen..... so what I would like to request is:
Simple motion sequence recording on the sequencer. You cannot see values for note's velocity(simple recording) because of no display, implement this same philosophy for recording motion for up to 4 lanes....hell I'd be happy with 2.
and as long as you don't use note values, have the motion sequencing be able to be used with the ARP.
This is a workaround for folks who want more mods and it keeps everything in the design philosophy.
All that said, I sincerely appreciate the current feature additions. Thank you very much!
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One other thing dreadfully missing is the ability to set different modulation levels for each destination in the LFO section (by holding down the destination button whilst turning the Amount knob for example). But that's another thing that is probably NOT going to happen either.
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One other thing dreadfully missing is the ability to set different modulation levels for each destination in the LFO section (by holding down the destination button whilst turning the Amount knob for example). But that's another thing that is probably NOT going to happen either.
I've made this very request myself(pretty much word for word actually lol). It seems like there's common themes to what users think would bring out the best in this synth. IMO, they should milk the OB-6/P6 for all they're worth...they're already modern day classics IMO....going toe to toe with modern anapolys many more times their price.
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One other thing dreadfully missing is the ability to set different modulation levels for each destination in the LFO section (by holding down the destination button whilst turning the Amount knob for example). But that's another thing that is probably NOT going to happen either.
My guess is that in the hardware, they only have one CV channel that gets distributed, otherwise it would be brain dead to not include individual 'Amount' settings. They would need to have separate drivers with programmable gain for each destination. This is a reason why the best modulars have multiple outs for LFOs and other signal sources.
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Before I got my ob6 I’d read they had finally decided to put beat sync into the arpeggiator , like most great synths had or have... certainly the ones with the most fun and usable arps such as the Juno 60.
However , while it does kind of work it still doesn’t work properly. It repeats or restarts when you change, so while the change is delayed until the beat (cool and fun) the arp pattern itself, esp for the up/down classic Juno style is messed up so you still can’t quite use it as you’d want.
All anyone has to do is compare a typical Roland arp to the dis stuff to find this flaw. Would be great if they tweaked the code to cut out the restart on change it just doesn’t flow like classic Roland arps do and makes beat sync a little less effective.
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Hmmm, are we ever going to get out of the beta stage for this one?
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Hmmm, are we ever going to get out of the beta stage for this one?
Hopefully/maybe they're adding more stuff and polishing up what they already put in. Been watching it too and checking in.
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Before I got my ob6 I’d read they had finally decided to put beat sync into the arpeggiator , like most great synths had or have... certainly the ones with the most fun and usable arps such as the Juno 60.
I haven't really thought to use it with the arpeggiator...have you tried setting up the OB-6 as the master clock?
With the sequencer, I have found it to work well enough to read out a sequence into my DAW, which is sufficient (I haven't ever used the OB-6 for live performance of Arp and Seq as it is less fluid than either of my outboard sequencers (Keystep and Beatstep Pro) which are set up for this type of programming...
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Envelope slope would be nice! :)
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Thanks. But I've noticed on my OB6 Desktop that some of the LEDs are having brightness problems since doing the upgrade. Mainly all the small ones (for the LFO waveforms, PW 1 and 2, Effects A and B, and Clock values from Half to 16th S) are all dim. Whereas the Clock 16th T and 32nd as well as Arpeggiator Octaves 1,2 and 3 and Mode Up through Assign are all normal brightness.
I've done the update twice, to make sure it wasn't a transfer glitch. Curiously, the behavior of the panel just after the transfer was finished, and just before the synth restarted itself, was different both times. The first time it looked like it was frozen, but the second time around there was a count down displayed in one of the windows on top (can't remember which one).
I've also done a Globals reset.
Has anyone else noticed some LEDs brightness inconsistencies after upgrading ?
EDIT: I've reverted back to 1.2.0 and all the LEDs are all back to equal brightness, so it's definitely something in the latest 1.3.7 messing up some LEDs brightness.
I’m having the same LED issue you mentioned. My unit is brand new as of 10/11/19. OS 1.5.5. Even updated OS again but still have a particular LED window that one of the “dash” indicators doesn’t always light up on certain numbers but does on others. It will also fade in/out. So it’s not burnt out just intermittent. Other LED are inconsistent in brightness. I guess no resolve at this time?
Thanks,
Matthew
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I’m having the same LED issue you mentioned. My unit is brand new as of 10/11/19. OS 1.5.5. Even updated OS again but still have a particular LED window that one of the “dash” indicators doesn’t always light up on certain numbers but does on others. It will also fade in/out. So it’s not burnt out just intermittent. Other LED are inconsistent in brightness. I guess no resolve at this time?
Thanks,
Matthew
Hello there Matthew. At the time, I was even sent a few extra, non-published beta, OS versions from DSI to see if the LED problem was corrected, but to no avail. They finally gave up on it, and told me that some units might not have the exact same hardware in them as others, so that it might not be possible to ever fix the issue. So I elected to stay with OS 1.2.0 my unit came with, which works fine and which lights up all the LEDs evenly.
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I’m having the same LED issue you mentioned. My unit is brand new as of 10/11/19. OS 1.5.5. Even updated OS again but still have a particular LED window that one of the “dash” indicators doesn’t always light up on certain numbers but does on others. It will also fade in/out. So it’s not burnt out just intermittent. Other LED are inconsistent in brightness. I guess no resolve at this time?
Thanks,
Matthew
Hello there Matthew. At the time, I was even sent a few extra, non-published beta, OS versions from DSI to see if the LED problem was corrected, but to no avail. They finally gave up on it, and told me that some units might not have the exact same hardware in them as others, so that it might not be possible to ever fix the issue. So I elected to stay with OS 1.2.0 my unit came with, which works fine and which lights up all the LEDs evenly.
Would you happen to have a copy of that OS, 1.2.0 to try? I’d really appreciate it. Thanks so much for the reply.
mgrisham71@gmail.com
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Would you happen to have a copy of that OS, 1.2.0 to try? I’d really appreciate it. Thanks so much for the reply.
mgrisham71@gmail.com
Here you go...