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Title: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Pidcin on January 16, 2018, 08:45:14 PM
Hi Dave ,

I was wondering what the likelyhood of there ever being a Tempest II . With new upgraded features like 16 voices, poly chain capabilities , and an upgraded sequencer that does poly would be a dream come true .


I was wondering the likely hood of this as I’m ready to start a crowd funding campaign for the Tempest II to contribute any way possible because I strongly believe we are in NEED of this product. It would be the hottest product on the market. And if there was a crowd funding campaign that contributed financially maybe it would allow for this dream to become reality.

I need the Tempest II, Dave . I need it. We all need it.


Nick



Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: muleskinner on January 19, 2018, 01:12:17 AM
 :D

I'd be a happy with a couple of very simple firmware tweaks to my Tempest 1 (not that that's ever going to happen)!

Seriously though, I think DSI got their fingers burnt a bit with the Tempest. The sequencer/firmware angle wasn't something they were really geared up to deal with properly. I suspect they'll be sticking with 'normal' synths from now on but I'd love to be proved wrong.

Anyway, the Tempest is now six years old or something and it still compares to anything being released now in my opinion. If you're into the synth angle as much as the drum machine angle there's really nothing to touch it. Pairing the Tempest with something that can sample and has a more sophisticated sequencer (e.g. Deluge, Octatrack, MPC Live) is a killer combo.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Pidcin on January 19, 2018, 01:55:11 PM
:D

I'd be a happy with a couple of very simple firmware tweaks to my Tempest 1 (not that that's ever going to happen)!

Seriously though, I think DSI got their fingers burnt a bit with the Tempest. The sequencer/firmware angle wasn't something they were really geared up to deal with properly. I suspect they'll be sticking with 'normal' synths from now on but I'd love to be proved wrong.

Anyway, the Tempest is now six years old or something and it still compares to anything being released now in my opinion. If you're into the synth angle as much as the drum machine angle there's really nothing to touch it. Pairing the Tempest with something that can sample and has a more sophisticated sequencer (e.g. Deluge, Octatrack, MPC Live) is a killer combo.

The tempest is a top notch instrument and was loaded pack with features utilizing every bit of hardware and ram/memory .
Itís about 7-8 years old now and as you mentioned still stands up. Therefore this product was ahead of its time in order to stay this prominent and popular amongst those who use it .

I firmly believe this product deserves a legacy ; TEMPEST II, that will serve the next decade , especially now after creating a diamond, and hearing everyoneís responses they can most defiently surpass the players needs and make the TEMPEST II.

I still firmly believe and am making a bold statement that the TEMPEST II should be of consideration for Dave Smith Instruments .

I would buy one in a heart beat. As the tempest holds dear to my heart as it was the first instrument I bought from DSI. I love it so much, and I hope they come out with another one to continue on with.

I know others would agree
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LoboLives on January 19, 2018, 02:10:20 PM
I think Dave will leave it to Roger to come out with the Linn Drum II. Not sure when that'll be though.

Anyway the Pioneer/DSI Toraiz SP-16 is actually sort of takes the basic functionality of the Tempest and expands on it. There's no analog synthesis going on but it's still a great machine with Prophet 6 filters.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: dslsynth on January 19, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
There were some very interesting voice architecture ideas in the original BoomChik design. Would love to know what these were and would love if a voice with forward looking electronic percussion capabilities happened as a multi-timbral desktop module one day!
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LoboLives on January 19, 2018, 03:57:45 PM
There were some very interesting voice architecture ideas in the original BoomChik design. Would love to know what these were and would love if a voice with forward looking electronic percussion capabilities happened as a multi-timbral desktop module one day!

As long as they donít name it Boom Chick or Metro Knome or whatever. Iíll say it before and Iíll say it again what is with synth makers naming their stuff stupid names.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LucidSFX on January 19, 2018, 06:08:42 PM
Of course I would buy one. It could be the next Virus.
More memory
Sampling ability (layer/zones/wave table synthesis)
Better display
Mono outs
(32 voices) 16 analogue voice / 16 digital Voice
4 LFOís
Modulation operators
Brew a decent cup of tea
32 patch chords
Sound patches save with performance fx
Smooth led encoders
No shift functions
32 notes per lanes
Parameter lock
Clean out outs
Cleans my home
USB key for data storage
RGB pads
Multi digital fx per sound
Waveform display
Spectrograph display
Illuminated Tempest Logo
CV outs
Full midi spec
Randomizer with variousness modes
Pop up tips of Yorgos praising you for good sound design....autoshock for those who make stooopid sounds
Ableton link
Over drive on all outs
Adat out
Word clock in/out
Balanced outs
4 analogue OSC per analogue voices
4 digital sample, wavetable, digital wave per digital voice
Layering/linking of sounds (poly record)
LucidSFX signature sound set (badAzCowBellzzz)
Route any modulator patch cable to multiple envelopes or patch cables
Software Librarian and patch creator (think Virus TI)
Does not like Cats or Pictures of Cats on synths. Especially on itself.
Side chain everything.
Has 33 Chanel mixer with eq capabilities and digital fx inserts.
Sound design mode where iterations of a patch can be freely saved as ďstatesĒ to be A/B across the 16 pads (Think photoshop)
Endless LED encoders so values donít jump  when switching between pads
Built in brick wall limiter per channel and master
Surround sound mode for game and movie sound design
Lithium rechargeable batteries that last 16 hours on full performance.

I am sure there is more that can be put on the list.

I love the original Tempest but if the ultimate workstation encompassing the above came out I would buy it in a heart beat (pipe dream as it is)....considering the hell we put Dave and Roger through.....LOL Good luck on the T2.









Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Pidcin on January 19, 2018, 06:42:20 PM
Of course I would buy one. It could be the next Virus.
More memory
Sampling ability (layer/zones/wave table synthesis)
Better display
Mono outs
(32 voices) 16 analogue voice / 16 digital Voice
4 LFOís
Modulation operators
Brew a decent cup of tea
32 patch chords
Sound patches save with performance fx
Smooth led encoders
No shift functions
32 notes per lanes
Parameter lock
Clean out outs
Cleans my home
USB key for data storage
RGB pads
Multi digital fx per sound
Waveform display
Spectrograph display
Illuminated Tempest Logo
CV outs
Full midi spec
Randomizer with variousness modes
Pop up tips of Yorgos praising you for good sound design....autoshock for those who make stooopid sounds
Ableton link
Over drive on all outs
Adat out
Word clock in/out
Balanced outs
4 analogue OSC per analogue voices
4 digital sample, wavetable, digital wave per digital voice
Layering/linking of sounds (poly record)
LucidSFX signature sound set (badAzCowBellzzz)
Route any modulator patch cable to multiple envelopes or patch cables
Software Librarian and patch creator (think Virus TI)
Does not like Cats or Pictures of Cats on synths. Especially on itself.
Side chain everything.
Has 33 Chanel mixer with eq capabilities and digital fx inserts.
Sound design mode where iterations of a patch can be freely saved as ďstatesĒ to be A/B across the 16 pads (Think photoshop)
Endless LED encoders so values donít jump  when switching between pads
Built in brick wall limiter per channel and master
Surround sound mode for game and movie sound design
Lithium rechargeable batteries that last 16 hours on full performance.

I am sure there is more that can be put on the list.

I love the original Tempest but if the ultimate workstation encompassing the above came out I would buy it in a heart beat (pipe dream as it is)....considering the hell we put Dave and Roger through.....LOL Good luck on the T2.

Alright thanks man..
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on January 20, 2018, 01:59:17 AM
Hahaha nice one John :D
Pop up tips of Yorgos praising you for good sound design....autoshock for those who make stooopid sounds
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: RobH on January 20, 2018, 04:43:31 AM
The most important function must be ďall functions get zapped into the brain on purchase ; no need to read manual everĒ lol
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Hannibal Lektra on January 20, 2018, 04:45:12 PM
I wish they would do up a Tempest with a Linndrum paint job.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: flusso on August 07, 2018, 10:16:37 AM
just in case: it would be worth consider a dedicated FPGA effects block. at least with 6 lanes

let's not be taliban about this analog thing.

and, i would strongly consider a much deeper MIDI integration if i was in Dave's mind.
indeed an SD card port would be welcome to overcome space limitations
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LoboLives on August 08, 2018, 06:22:32 PM
Maybe 8Dio could collaborate with Roger Linn..imagine the percussion and drum samples within the PX but inside a drum machine format...I suppose though you could technically sample them into an MpC or SP16 or something.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Stoss on August 09, 2018, 08:20:32 AM
The Tempest is amazing. There is truly nothing like it. It doesnít need user sampling or any of the laundry list of features people want to throw at it. What it needs is to have everything that was intended to work on it be in working order. It needs more memory for the programmer to complete the project. It needs more memory for users to save sound files. The sound files need to store the FX settings. It needs the glide modes working. It needs the single cycle waveforms to not be buzzy. It doesnít need a better display, it just needs a designer to give it a quick brush up on some very basic UI inconsistencies. It needs much deeper MIDI implementation.

The Tempest II needs only be a completion and polishing of the original effort, which most likely would need to include some hardware modifications.

I think a one-time discount to those that purchased (new) the original before it was declared complete while still short of its advertised features would be a wise marketing move.

I think future development of a Tempest Mini with stripped down features would be a great way to expand upon the effort and gather more subsidiary income. Iím talking real basic... something like the DrumBrute Impact... dedicated voices, but maybe with the bonus of recordable parameter tweaks.

Let me know if youíd like an outside consultant for the effort. Iím highly interested.  :)
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: muleskinner on August 10, 2018, 02:40:23 AM
The Tempest is amazing. There is truly nothing like it. It doesnít need user sampling or any of the laundry list of features people want to throw at it. What it needs is to have everything that was intended to work on it be in working order. It needs more memory for the programmer to complete the project. It needs more memory for users to save sound files. The sound files need to store the FX settings. It needs the glide modes working. It needs the single cycle waveforms to not be buzzy. It doesnít need a better display, it just needs a designer to give it a quick brush up on some very basic UI inconsistencies. It needs much deeper MIDI implementation.

That man speaks da truth!!
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: MaxThroughput on August 10, 2018, 07:16:53 AM
I'm still in the honeymoon phase and I bought mine for $900, so my opinion is probably different than others, but I totally love this thing. It's probably my favorite instrument right now. Had I read all the negativity with more than a grain of salt, I wouldn't have bought one and would have really missed out on a fun device. I'm using it more than my Pro 2 right now and this weekend will be my first time bringing it to a jam night to do some improv stuff. The memory limitation is a bit disappointing however. After downloading the new sounds, there is literally no space to create new ones. I'll have to go through and delete a bunch of the factory patches.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: RobH on August 21, 2018, 10:11:17 AM
I'm still in the honeymoon phase and I bought mine for $900, so my opinion is probably different than others, but I totally love this thing. It's probably my favorite instrument right now. Had I read all the negativity with more than a grain of salt, I wouldn't have bought one and would have really missed out on a fun device. I'm using it more than my Pro 2 right now and this weekend will be my first time bringing it to a jam night to do some improv stuff. The memory limitation is a bit disappointing however. After downloading the new sounds, there is literally no space to create new ones. I'll have to go through and delete a bunch of the factory patches.

$900. Thats £700. Thats ABSURD.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: channelite on August 24, 2018, 05:56:00 PM
Since owning the Tempest since 2013, it seems like the opinion on forums like Gearslutz is negative. It seems like Elektron is the favored brand for groove boxes. I donít see a Tempest 2 being better than Elektron boxes, especially if itís gonna be $2000.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on August 25, 2018, 01:33:47 AM
You mean GearTrash...Check your info again a lot of people are blaming Elektron for their cumbersome workflow in their machines and for not keeping their promises on Overbridge..I used to own an Octatrack but sold it for an MPC Live..Couldnít be happier about the choice and my workflow has improved 1000%...
Since owning the Tempest since 2013, it seems like the opinion on forums like Gearslutz is negative. It seems like Elektron is the favored brand for groove boxes. I donít see a Tempest 2 being better than Elektron boxes, especially if itís gonna be $2000.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Flux302 on September 11, 2018, 03:42:00 PM
I would be all for it but I won't early adopt. I REALLY hope they continue on with the dev plan they originally had which was to do a sampling box to kinda be brother to the Tempest. BUT.... I would want it done right. Part of the awesome sauce marketing of the tempest was having both Dave Smith and Roger Linn's names right on the machine ... this was implying that they were applying all those years of experience into the tempest so you could trust that when it came out it would be fully fleshed out and would be well thought out with forethought to the future. the reality (in my opinion) was not that...  they underspec'd the digital side of things leaving barely enough memory to save anything. they used a chip that struggled to import sample data. They didnt haven enough cpu left over to even handle complex midi for fear of clock stability. (all this stuff admitted on their part over the years).
So with that being said... I still want what I know they COULD produce given modern chipsets and if... only IF they don't nickel and dime the damn thing to be unable to be updated and improved as time goes on.

I own both tempest and Rytm mk2 (sold my rytm mk1) fact is I prefer the sound and the sampling aspect of the Rytm but MUCH prefer the Tempest open layout and open ended synthesis of the tempest. the tempest is simply more fun to create on. It does SO much right.... yet got things wrong that the names on the box had me thinking would have been thought about before hand.
that all being said... I wasn't involved in development. I don't know what struggles happened behind the scenes. maybe one day I could have them both on my show and they could dish out the on the design decisions and why it went the way that it did.  I wouldn't expect them to be open to that till well after the Tempest is OOP.

so yeah I would LOVE a Tempest 2 ... so long as they learn from the past. hell maybe team up with Dave Rossum on it, harkening back to the prophet 5 days....
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LoboLives on September 11, 2018, 09:08:40 PM
I would be all for it but I won't early adopt. I REALLY hope they continue on with the dev plan they originally had which was to do a sampling box to kinda be brother to the Tempest. BUT.... I would want it done right. Part of the awesome sauce marketing of the tempest was having both Dave Smith and Roger Linn's names right on the machine ... this was implying that they were applying all those years of experience into the tempest so you could trust that when it came out it would be fully fleshed out and would be well thought out with forethought to the future. the reality (in my opinion) was not that...  they underspec'd the digital side of things leaving barely enough memory to save anything. they used a chip that struggled to import sample data. They didnt haven enough cpu left over to even handle complex midi for fear of clock stability. (all this stuff admitted on their part over the years).
So with that being said... I still want what I know they COULD produce given modern chipsets and if... only IF they don't nickel and dime the damn thing to be unable to be updated and improved as time goes on.

I own both tempest and Rytm mk2 (sold my rytm mk1) fact is I prefer the sound and the sampling aspect of the Rytm but MUCH prefer the Tempest open layout and open ended synthesis of the tempest. the tempest is simply more fun to create on. It does SO much right.... yet got things wrong that the names on the box had me thinking would have been thought about before hand.
that all being said... I wasn't involved in development. I don't know what struggles happened behind the scenes. maybe one day I could have them both on my show and they could dish out the on the design decisions and why it went the way that it did.  I wouldn't expect them to be open to that till well after the Tempest is OOP.

so yeah I would LOVE a Tempest 2 ... so long as they learn from the past. hell maybe team up with Dave Rossum on it, harkening back to the prophet 5 days....

I guess my thoughts are the market now is currently flooded with things like the Rytm, Digitakt, MPC so jumping into that area would be the same as if Sequential came out with a new Mono synth. It's too oversaturated at the moment and regardless of who's name is attached to it, there's really not much Dave, Dave and Roger can do that would offer anything different than what's currently on the market as it stands.

I still think we are more likely to see Roger Linn collaborating with Toontrack or Steve Slate or any VST company for that matter than we are to see Roger and Dave do another drum machine. An MPE based synth? Sure. Drum Machine? I would be doubtful.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on September 12, 2018, 02:54:27 AM
Drum machines are the elite and thereís always room for taking things to the next level...Iím saying it once again they all need to raise the bar with a hybrid analog/digital DAW like machine that can finish complete compositions..AKAI with their new MPC series have gone half way..Itís digital,theyíre still working to improve the DAW like workflow but itís missing the analog synth engine..
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: joosep on September 12, 2018, 04:41:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDotr1lmNwI

Roger is back on his project it seems...
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: dslsynth on September 12, 2018, 05:25:41 AM
Roger is back on his project it seems...

Thanks for sharing. This is how a visionary designer speaks. So amazing!

Only downside is the sky high expectations such an ambitious project goal generates.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: dslsynth on September 12, 2018, 05:42:32 AM
[...] but itís missing the analog synth engine..

An alternative to build analog synthesizer engines into drum machines are multi-timbral synthesizer modules capable of playing percussive sounds. This is exactly why it would be wonderful if Sequential did such products in the future. Features such as the option for fast envelopes modes would do the trick. In fact it would just be one of many use cases for an expressive synthesizer voice.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Flux302 on September 12, 2018, 02:39:59 PM
Roger has a good head on his shoulders about it... I think he is right, focus on where things Should be in the future, not on a current simple progression. trying to make an mpc, or even rytm to compete on that same level will be very costly and in the end only result in  a split market share of a niche product. do something new and different and you win a full share (so long as the idea works at the implementation stage.)... best of luck to him.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on September 12, 2018, 05:49:16 PM
Ye Roger bring that MPE to the beats game ;)
Wonderful ideas to fresh things up but please make it a complete composition tool...Letís all ditch DAWís!
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LoboLives on September 12, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
WHOA!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo9fe6iF84A
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: dslsynth on September 13, 2018, 06:55:18 AM
WHOA!!!!

Very nice drum playing indeed. Just wondering how much of LinnStrument's MPE capabilities are used in this playing session. Makes me wonder if this could just as well be played on a completely standard row of doorbells or on a pad controller without 2D/3D capabilities.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: cmscss on September 18, 2018, 01:46:28 PM
...It doesnít need user sampling or any of the laundry list of features people want... What it needs is to have everything that was intended to work on it be in working order. It needs more memory for the programmer to complete the project...

Word brother. I often think about a crowd-funded project to solder more memory into it and have the memory-related issues tidied up. I don't trust it for live work which is a crying shame but it's my main writing tool because everything that comes out of it sounds frickin' awesome.

It's a magic device, the mod paths are insane - feedback as a destination? Genius.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: T-Punk on September 22, 2018, 04:38:40 AM
I think I need an additional instrument for live performance which will cover areas Tempest can't do - effects, sampling, mixer with 1 - 2 stereo inputs, of course, more memory and normal MIDI CC control of parameters. Basically "more synth/sampler than drums" oriented groove box. There are Elektrons, but for some reason, I don't like their interface and sound too much.

I friend of mine just bought Prophet X, and I really like X's sound, all the options etc. It's quite a fresh concept, and all the modulation options now give a truly modular experience. There's only need in good analog style sequencer with resets, assignable modulation lines... So a new tabletop machine based on X engine could be amazing.

Plus yes - another killer possibility is to invite Dave Rossum and implement at least some features of his new Assimil8or Phase Modulation sampler and Morpheus Filter. They sound completely out of this world (I mean the quality at the first place ). I don't have Eurorack (use old Frac modular rack and don't want to start with Euro ) so if such a machine exists I would order it in a second, even with the price tag close to X.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Paul Dither on October 02, 2018, 12:23:38 PM
I had a chat with Roger recently and we also briefly talked about the LinnDrum 2:

https://youtu.be/sVEems2eudw
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: cmscss on October 17, 2018, 09:36:36 AM
I had a chat with Roger recently and we also briefly talked about the LinnDrum 2:

Very cool, checkout from 1:07:00

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: T-Punk on November 22, 2018, 05:41:37 AM
After another deep night I spent with Tempest preparing upcoming live set, I really want to say this again:

LET'S START A CAMPAIGN FOR TEMPEST 2 or even better - HARDWARE UPGRADE for the original

Nothing too cosmic, just:

1) MORE MEMORY FOR EVERYTHING
2) SAMPLE IMPORT
3) DIGITAL EFFECTS
4) REAL TIME AND STEP RECORDING OF PARAMETER LOCKS
5) DIFFERENT PATTERN LENGTH / TIME SIGNATURES FOR EACH SOUND.

period.
machine to keep and to use forever.
elektron killer.
modern days analog groovebox.
all those features already implemented in X (sample import ), P6 / OB6 / REV (digital effects ).

I don't understand, why this couldn't happen?! The only question is HOW MUCH do we need to accumulate via crowdfunding?
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: LoboLives on December 11, 2018, 11:30:51 AM
After another deep night I spent with Tempest preparing upcoming live set, I really want to say this again:

LET'S START A CAMPAIGN FOR TEMPEST 2 or even better - HARDWARE UPGRADE for the original

Nothing too cosmic, just:

1) MORE MEMORY FOR EVERYTHING
2) SAMPLE IMPORT
3) DIGITAL EFFECTS
4) REAL TIME AND STEP RECORDING OF PARAMETER LOCKS
5) DIFFERENT PATTERN LENGTH / TIME SIGNATURES FOR EACH SOUND.

period.
machine to keep and to use forever.
elektron killer.
modern days analog groovebox.
all those features already implemented in X (sample import ), P6 / OB6 / REV (digital effects ).

I don't understand, why this couldn't happen?! The only question is HOW MUCH do we need to accumulate via crowdfunding?

It would be easier to get an MPC X or MPC Live.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on December 11, 2018, 11:45:03 AM
It would be easier to get an MPC X or MPC Live.

Thatís my combo ^ (Tempest + MPC Live) :D
Iím gonna take these babies out for a spin on 28th of Dec got an upcoming gig!
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Trevor Refix on December 12, 2018, 10:37:24 PM
I think I need an additional instrument for live performance which will cover areas Tempest can't do - effects, sampling, mixer with 1 - 2 stereo inputs, of course, more memory and normal MIDI CC control of parameters. Basically "more synth/sampler than drums" oriented groove box. There are Elektrons, but for some reason, I don't like their interface and sound too much.


I know you said you don't like Elektrons, but this post perfectly describes an Octatack. It exactly describes one actually. You can get a used mk1 for pretty cheap these days, maybe worth a try? I've been using an OT / Tempest combo in my live rig since 2014, it's pretty sweet!
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: muleskinner on December 13, 2018, 12:26:09 AM
I'm using a Deluge paired with my Tempest. It's awesome, and it gets exponentially better with each FW update!


Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: RobH on December 13, 2018, 08:21:27 PM
I'm using a Deluge paired with my Tempest. It's awesome, and it gets exponentially better with each FW update!

Whats a FW update "giggity" xD
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: T-Punk on January 31, 2019, 03:16:29 PM
Let's hope Dave will come out soon with a drum machine based on "X" technology. He just mentioned in last NAMM interview that "it would be fun to make one".

Other than that - I think a laptop with Live + Push 2 + RME card is a much comfier and better sounding solution than dealing with Elektron OT interface or Akai MPC or Force limitations. No desire to compare them here, but at least that's what I use as a sampler/workstation/live mixer at the moment.

I like an idea of "1 instrument operation" live techno performance. For me, it could be Tempest but lack of effects and sample upload... Well... The Tempest is dead. Long live the Tempest II!

 
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Flux302 on February 03, 2019, 10:46:42 AM
I think as updates come for both the Force and current MPC line we will start to see them implement VA drum synthesis (amongst other forms of synthesis). on top of that I think we will start to see things like probability and more interesting modulation techniques arrise in that platform... So I will keep my eye tight on that. The MPC Live/X seem to need careful consideration to their internal headroom imho. but are certainly great stand alone machines.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: yonatan omer on June 26, 2020, 01:22:22 PM
With just a few unique features, the Tempest became the only such instrument which really FEELS to me like an instrument:
- Beat-wide parameter tweaking
- Ease of assignment of anything to velocity envelopes amount

I follow the market in search of a Tempest 2 which will solve its CONS:
- lack of onboard FX
- samples management software
- better integration with the DAW/less

I
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Tempest1 on June 27, 2020, 07:37:13 AM
Of course I would buy one. It could be the next Virus.
More memory
Sampling ability (layer/zones/wave table synthesis)
Better display
Mono outs
(32 voices) 16 analogue voice / 16 digital Voice
4 LFOís
Modulation operators
Brew a decent cup of tea
32 patch chords
Sound patches save with performance fx
Smooth led encoders
No shift functions
32 notes per lanes
Parameter lock
Clean out outs
Cleans my home
USB key for data storage
RGB pads
Multi digital fx per sound
Waveform display
Spectrograph display
Illuminated Tempest Logo
CV outs
Full midi spec
Randomizer with variousness modes
Pop up tips of Yorgos praising you for good sound design....autoshock for those who make stooopid sounds
Ableton link
Over drive on all outs
Adat out
Word clock in/out
Balanced outs
4 analogue OSC per analogue voices
4 digital sample, wavetable, digital wave per digital voice
Layering/linking of sounds (poly record)
LucidSFX signature sound set (badAzCowBellzzz)
Route any modulator patch cable to multiple envelopes or patch cables
Software Librarian and patch creator (think Virus TI)
Does not like Cats or Pictures of Cats on synths. Especially on itself.
Side chain everything.
Has 33 Chanel mixer with eq capabilities and digital fx inserts.
Sound design mode where iterations of a patch can be freely saved as ďstatesĒ to be A/B across the 16 pads (Think photoshop)
Endless LED encoders so values donít jump  when switching between pads
Built in brick wall limiter per channel and master
Surround sound mode for game and movie sound design
Lithium rechargeable batteries that last 16 hours on full performance.

I am sure there is more that can be put on the list.

I love the original Tempest but if the ultimate workstation encompassing the above came out I would buy it in a heart beat (pipe dream as it is)....considering the hell we put Dave and Roger through.....LOL Good luck on the T2.

The worst thing about your post is other than the brew a cup of whatever and clean your home jokes etc., you're actually serious. It's a good thing you don't work for product development for Sequential because they'd be bankrupt within a year after making your dream (delusion) machine, since only professionals, and rich kids would be abe to afford it.
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: John the Savage on June 27, 2020, 03:44:03 PM
The worst thing about your post is other than the brew a cup of whatever and clean your home jokes etc., you're actually serious. It's a good thing you don't work for product development for Sequential because they'd be bankrupt within a year after making your dream (delusion) machine, since only professionals, and rich kids would be able to afford it.

And the worst thing about your post ó other than the fact that you're picking on a post from two-and-a-half years ago, that was clearly meant as a joke, by one of the more talented, funny, and genial people ever to grace this forum ó is that nearly everything on Lucid's list (aside from the hilarious novelty items of course) is in fact present on the MPC Live, and it is yet more affordable than the Tempest.  Ahem! 

Cheers!
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Bad Brian on July 22, 2020, 07:09:42 AM
The worst thing about your post is other than the brew a cup of whatever and clean your home jokes etc., you're actually serious. It's a good thing you don't work for product development for Sequential because they'd be bankrupt within a year after making your dream (delusion) machine, since only professionals, and rich kids would be able to afford it.

And the worst thing about your post ó other than the fact that you're picking on a post from two-and-a-half years ago, that was clearly meant as a joke, by one of the more talented, funny, and genial people ever to grace this forum ó is that nearly everything on Lucid's list (aside from the hilarious novelty items of course) is in fact present on the MPC Live, and it is yet more affordable than the Tempest.  Ahem! 

Cheers!


Hahaha 😂.... nailed it
Title: Re: A message for Dave Smith : Tempest II
Post by: Ackord on September 03, 2020, 12:37:11 AM
I just think (personally) for sure there will be a Tempest II or Drum machine like Product from DSI, we have all bitten the Apple  ;D 8)
Though we can't guess when ..   

Tempest was and still is a complete Beast for the people that studied it. Its still ahead of its time. 

as a personal taste, mostly just more memory to create thousands of sounds and Projects (or External SD card possibility). A couple of tweaks from the previous and that's it !!!
Even though some features people already mentioned will be good too.
  FX for all channels , Polyphony and Polyrhythm to name a few

:)       i even got a 2nd Tempest and no regrets .. its amazing how both interact with each other.