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SEQUENTIAL/DSI => Prophet => Prophet Rev2 => Topic started by: codeKnobs on November 11, 2017, 10:18:48 AM
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Hi there,
I released Prophet REV2 editor - VST editor for the Prophet REV2. Now you can store your patches within DAW project, automate synthesizer parameters and much more!
Product page: http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=7 (http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=7)
(http://codeknobs.com/images/v3/rev2.png)
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Currently only windows version. Mac version comming soon!
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Currently only windows version. Mac version comming soon!
Great, been waiting for something like this! Keeping my fingers crossed for audio unit format on the mac version...
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Codneknobs DSI editor (synthet) = highly recommended!
Looking forward to a MAC AU / VST version
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A Mac AU would be deeply appreciated!
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Black friday sales available!
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OS X VST and AU version is released!
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This app works great. Thanks!
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Other than a program banks manager, I've never understood the point of such software for editing sounds on a computer screen, when the hardware synth offers 55 physical knobs and 35 real buttons that are just waiting for you to tweak with your bare hands !?
And since almost anything can modulate anything else on that same hardware synth, the automation feature seems rather pointless too...
Am I missing something ? But maybe I'm too "old school". After all, I'm 10 years older than my 1975 Minimoog D... ;-)
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Other than a program banks manager, I've never understood the point of such software for editing sounds on a computer screen, when the hardware synth offers 55 physical knobs and 35 real buttons that are just waiting for you to tweak with your bare hands !?
And since almost anything can modulate anything else on that same hardware synth, the automation feature seems rather pointless too...
Am I missing something ? But maybe I'm too "old school". After all, I'm 10 years older than my 1975 Minimoog D... ;-)
One thing I use it for is to learn from other sound designers. You can easily see all the controls on the screen without having to turn knobs to see parameters.
Another thing it's good for is easily accessing menu diving options. Instead of navigating through the menu you can select those items easier by clicking on the software.
This editor in particular is good for sound designing/producing. You can open another instance to start on a different type of sound and go between the sounds and the controls come up how they were.
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Other than a program banks manager, I've never understood the point of such software for editing sounds on a computer screen, when the hardware synth offers 55 physical knobs and 35 real buttons that are just waiting for you to tweak with your bare hands !?
And since almost anything can modulate anything else on that same hardware synth, the automation feature seems rather pointless too...
Am I missing something ? But maybe I'm too "old school". After all, I'm 10 years older than my 1975 Minimoog D... ;-)
One thing I use it for is to learn from other sound designers. You can easily see all the controls on the screen without having to turn knobs to see parameters.
Another thing it's good for is easily accessing menu diving options. Instead of navigating through the menu you can select those items easier by clicking on the software.
This editor in particular is good for sound designing/producing. You can open another instance to start on a different type of sound and go between the sounds and the controls come up how they were.
3 good points, I must admit. 8)
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I like it so I can load a project in logic and my external synth(s) are set up and ready to go.
Plus recording automation data.
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Codneknobs DSI editor (synthet) = highly recommended!
Looking forward to a MAC AU / VST version
So does this meant that they do a standalone version like the offering from Soundtower ?
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Codneknobs DSI editor (synthet) = highly recommended!
Looking forward to a MAC AU / VST version
So does this meant that they do a standalone version like the offering from Soundtower ?
Yes. You can learn more here http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=6 (http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=6)
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Hi codeknobs. I bought your vst editor for the rev2 today. Are you planning to integrate the polyphonic sequencer?
Thank you for making this great product.
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Hi codeknobs. I bought your vst editor for the rev2 today. Are you planning to integrate the polyphonic sequencer?
Thank you for making this great product.
Thank you for buying the editor! Yes, I working on poly sequencer control but can say when it will be released.
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Great! Thank you.
Hi codeknobs. I bought your vst editor for the rev2 today. Are you planning to integrate the polyphonic sequencer?
Thank you for making this great product.
Thank you for buying the editor! Yes, I working on poly sequencer control but can say when it will be released.
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"MIDI Clock Mode to OFF. Because VST Host doesn't send or receive MIDI clock messages via VST protocol."
Does this mean that there is no way to automatically sync REV2 to DAW tempo?
Thanks
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Anyone else having graphics corruption and slow graphics refreshing with this editor. When I turn "Always on Top" off and it gets hidden behind another window the editor's graphics disappear or get corrupted. (See the attachments) Minimizing it and restoring it fixes the issue until it gets hidden again. This is becoming a pain. None of my other vst editors have this problem...Sub37, Minitaur. In fact I also use the Integra 7 and OB-6 stand alone editors and they also do not show any of these issues.
Also, when loading a preset saved to my hard drive some settings don't recall properly. For example the other night I loaded a stacked preset and layer B wasn't sounding. When I pressed the "Edit Layer B" button on the synth Layer B suddenly started sounding as it should. This has happened twice so far that I've noticed.
I have it connected using the Midi Din connection.
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I would say email Alexey. I had this issue when I was beta testing it, but I couldn't figure out what to do to get it to reproduce repeatedly. So maybe there is something he can look into.
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"MIDI Clock Mode to OFF. Because VST Host doesn't send or receive MIDI clock messages via VST protocol."
Does this mean that there is no way to automatically sync REV2 to DAW tempo?
Thanks
There is a button in the editor that syncs BPM of DAW and synthesizer. But some latency issues are posible and should be fixed manually in DAW.
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Anyone else having graphics corruption and slow graphics refreshing with this editor. When I turn "Always on Top" off and it gets hidden behind another window the editor's graphics disappear or get corrupted. (See the attachments) Minimizing it and restoring it fixes the issue until it gets hidden again. This is becoming a pain. None of my other vst editors have this problem...Sub37, Minitaur. In fact I also use the Integra 7 and OB-6 stand alone editors and they also do not show any of these issues.
Also, when loading a preset saved to my hard drive some settings don't recall properly. For example the other night I loaded a stacked preset and layer B wasn't sounding. When I pressed the "Edit Layer B" button on the synth Layer B suddenly started sounding as it should. This has happened twice so far that I've noticed.
I have it connected using the Midi Din connection.
Please email me at support@codeknobs.com. Don't forget to specify your setup (PC configuration, DAW etc).
BTW Sometimes graphics issues can be solved by updating on latest video adapter drivers. In my practice this was several times.
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Can someone guide me through how to use the plugin (just bought it) on Logic ProX
1. I don't understand what and where to disable the midi as instructed Power on your Prophet REV2, and connect it via USB, Open your DAW, proceed to MIDI preferences and DISABLE or REMOVE "Rev2" MIDI ports (input and output).
2. The plugin only offer me Mono or Multioutput (2xmono) Can't I switch this to stereo?
3. I want to setup a template to record both midi and a audiotrack that I can bounce down to. What is your workflow for the rest. Do you use the I/O plugin on that track? How do you handle delay compensation?
I'm currently using the Midi via USB from Rev2 and Main/A outputs to two inputs on my RME UCX.
Thankful for any guidance. :)
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Can someone guide me through how to use the plugin (just bought it) on Logic ProX
1. I don't understand what and where to disable the midi as instructed Power on your Prophet REV2, and connect it via USB, Open your DAW, proceed to MIDI preferences and DISABLE or REMOVE "Rev2" MIDI ports (input and output).
As I know just put editor to track in Logic and set right midi port in editor. There is no special setup in Logic.
2. The plugin only offer me Mono or Multioutput (2xmono) Can't I switch this to stereo?
Unfortunately I'm not Logic user. Could you explain the issue?
3. I want to setup a template to record both midi and a audiotrack that I can bounce down to. What is your workflow for the rest. Do you use the I/O plugin on that track? How do you handle delay compensation?
Can't answer for sure because I'm not Logic user as I said before. In Ableton Live this solves very easy. Some time ago I asked my friend about latency compensation in Logic and what he say:
So to fix synchronization, I see two options:
1) move the non-P6/P12 editor tracks or set the track delay parameter (or put in negative delay on the P6/P12 tracks). I was able to get the notes sounding together with this technique, though it took some time to get the delay right.
2) have the MIDI notes on another track, so there are two tracks controlling the P6 (one for the editor and another for the midi notes) and another two controlling the P12. With this approach the notes were in sync without having to move any tracks.
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Can someone guide me through how to use the plugin (just bought it) on Logic ProX
1. I don't understand what and where to disable the midi as instructed Power on your Prophet REV2, and connect it via USB, Open your DAW, proceed to MIDI preferences and DISABLE or REMOVE "Rev2" MIDI ports (input and output).
As I know just put editor to track in Logic and set right midi port in editor. There is no special setup in Logic.
2. The plugin only offer me Mono or Multioutput (2xmono) Can't I switch this to stereo?
Unfortunately I'm not Logic user. Could you explain the issue?
3. I want to setup a template to record both midi and a audiotrack that I can bounce down to. What is your workflow for the rest. Do you use the I/O plugin on that track? How do you handle delay compensation?
Can't answer for sure because I'm not Logic user as I said before. In Ableton Live this solves very easy. Some time ago I asked my friend about latency compensation in Logic and what he say:
So to fix synchronization, I see two options:
1) move the non-P6/P12 editor tracks or set the track delay parameter (or put in negative delay on the P6/P12 tracks). I was able to get the notes sounding together with this technique, though it took some time to get the delay right.
2) have the MIDI notes on another track, so there are two tracks controlling the P6 (one for the editor and another for the midi notes) and another two controlling the P12. With this approach the notes were in sync without having to move any tracks.
1. Ok good. Then I probably did everything right
2. Included a picture... I don't know if it is of importance because it's on a softwareinstrument channel with only MIDI anyway. Pan and Volume doesn't control anything on this channel anyway... A bit confusing since with regular softwareinstrumentchannels you do control pan, vol, and inserts and sends. So for that to work I need to make another External Midi track using the "external instrument plugin". And to bounce I need a third track? I thought that maybe the ProphetPlugin worked the same way as the "external instrument plugin"?
As you can see I'm kind of new on how to integrate outboard synth's to daw. Anyone else that uses logic and have the ultimate setup? :)
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codeKnobs: have you tested DSI's REV2 VST/AU product with Ableton Live Version 10? Just wondering if anyone has used this with Version 10. I realize it should work fine regardless of the DAW they are using but curious to know other people's DAW environment currently in use with your product.
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codeKnobs: have you tested DSI's REV2 VST/AU product with Ableton Live Version 10? Just wondering if anyone has used this with Version 10. I realize it should work fine regardless of the DAW they are using but curious to know other people's DAW environment currently in use with your product.
Yes it should work fine in Live 10 and Live 9. This article show how to setup plugin in Live. It's not about REV2 editor but also valid for it. http://codeknobs.com/tpe_abletion_live_tt.php (http://codeknobs.com/tpe_abletion_live_tt.php)
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Can someone guide me through how to use the plugin (just bought it) on Logic ProX.
1. I don't understand what and where to disable the midi as instructed Power on your Prophet REV2, and connect it via USB, Open your DAW, proceed to MIDI preferences and DISABLE or REMOVE "Rev2" MIDI ports (input and output). Okay so this is more of an Ableton Live Direction, no need to disable the anything in Logic. Just make sure you're selecting the DSI ports in the plugins midi settings, you want to make sure the plugin is dictating the midi control to and from the synth... not the DAW ports.
2. The plugin only offer me Mono or Multioutput (2xmono) Can't I switch this to stereo? I would just use the hardware to dictate the outputs...
3. I want to setup a template to record both midi and a audiotrack that I can bounce down to. What is your workflow for the rest. Do you use the I/O plugin on that track? How do you handle delay compensation? There's no need for the IO plugin, just insert the plugin on a software instrument track... then set up an audio track for monitoring/recording the synth. I monitor direct off my pre amps (also referred to as direct monitoring). In terms of delay compensation, there's what your hearing and what you're printing... direct monitoring should help the lag (not make it sample accurate - that's impossible without midi sync clocking devices), only thing you can do to make sure you're printing accurately is to measure your lag and adjust recording delay compensation in the preferences... this is a moving target in my experience. I usually avoid this all together and reopen the session if stuff is way off grid... when it's as close to on grid and sounding good I print and adjust audio as needed, to my knowledge this is what a lot of people are doing too. It's an imperfect world in the midi realm but if it sounds funky (in a good way) leave it!!! :)
I'm currently using the Midi via USB from Rev2 and Main/A outputs to two inputs on my RME UCX.
Thankful for any guidance. :)
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Can someone guide me through how to use the plugin (just bought it) on Logic ProX.
1. I don't understand what and where to disable the midi as instructed Power on your Prophet REV2, and connect it via USB, Open your DAW, proceed to MIDI preferences and DISABLE or REMOVE "Rev2" MIDI ports (input and output). Okay so this is more of an Ableton Live Direction, no need to disable the anything in Logic. Just make sure you're selecting the DSI ports in the plugins midi settings, you want to make sure the plugin is dictating the midi control to and from the synth... not the DAW ports.
2. The plugin only offer me Mono or Multioutput (2xmono) Can't I switch this to stereo? I would just use the hardware to dictate the outputs...
3. I want to setup a template to record both midi and a audiotrack that I can bounce down to. What is your workflow for the rest. Do you use the I/O plugin on that track? How do you handle delay compensation? There's no need for the IO plugin, just insert the plugin on a software instrument track... then set up an audio track for monitoring/recording the synth. I monitor direct off my pre amps (also referred to as direct monitoring). In terms of delay compensation, there's what your hearing and what you're printing... direct monitoring should help the lag (not make it sample accurate - that's impossible without midi sync clocking devices), only thing you can do to make sure you're printing accurately is to measure your lag and adjust recording delay compensation in the preferences... this is a moving target in my experience. I usually avoid this all together and reopen the session if stuff is way off grid... when it's as close to on grid and sounding good I print and adjust audio as needed, to my knowledge this is what a lot of people are doing too. It's an imperfect world in the midi realm but if it sounds funky (in a good way) leave it!!! :)
I'm currently using the Midi via USB from Rev2 and Main/A outputs to two inputs on my RME UCX.
Thankful for any guidance. :)
Thanks mate. Yes that is probably the easiest way. I just thought that I somehow should add the "external instrument plugin" into the equation since it seems to have an option to "Auto-compensate Latency" checkbox. But I guess I'll live without it. :)
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I'm using Nuendo and I'm out of available usb ports so I'm only using midi. I have disabled the midi ports that the Rev2 is connected to in Nuendo's "midi port setup" page. Then I load the editor as a vst instrument. Choose the midi ports in the setup page of the editor. Then I load an audio track setup to monitor the Rev2. Actually I have saved this setup as a multi track preset so everything loads in one go. This is working pretty good so far except for the midi clock and a few inconsistencies/bugs with the editor. So far I have just been setting the tempo of the editor to match the tempo in Nuendo and that seems to keep everything in sync quite nicely. Haven't done any songs with tempo changes since setting this up though...So that might be a whole new nightmare.
I can't help but think that a language barrier is making this more difficult then it could be. That and the lack of an operation manual pretty much make this a shot in the dark for users.
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Version 1.9 released!
Changes:
- Polyphonic step sequencer control
- Aux output port. Now you can record MIDI from synthesizer in DAW. On Windows platform it requires virtual midi ports software.
- Fast program recall. You can easy bind 5 programs to buttons on toolbar and load them in editor by one click.
- Dynamic changes parameters names in FX section.
- LFO FREQ and DELAY TIME in synced mode now shows bpm synced values.
- Improved performance
- A lot of minor bugs fixed
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Great! Thank you.
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Version 1.9 released!
Changes:
- Polyphonic step sequencer control
- Aux output port. Now you can record MIDI from synthesizer in DAW. On Windows platform it requires virtual midi ports software.
- Fast program recall. You can easy bind 5 programs to buttons on toolbar and load them in editor by one click.
- Dynamic changes parameters names in FX section.
- LFO FREQ and DELAY TIME in synced mode now shows bpm synced values.
- Improved performance
- A lot of minor bugs fixed
Thanks for this update...It seems to have fixed my graphics corruption problems. At least is hasn't happened yet with the new version. All the new features you've added are great so keep up the good work.
I have one small request for the next version. The tool tips that pop up when you are tweaking a parameter almost always get in the way so I can't see the parameter. Is there a way to turn these parameter value pop ups off? Please add this functionality if not.
Thanks!
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I have one small request for the next version. The tool tips that pop up when you are tweaking a parameter almost always get in the way so I can't see the parameter. Is there a way to turn these parameter value pop ups off? Please add this functionality if not.
Thanks!
Already in my todo :)
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Version 1.12 released!
Changes:
-Minor fixes
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Version 1.12 released!
Changes:
-Minor fixes
Thanks for the update. I was missing the FX1 parameter knob with version 1.11. Now it is back in version 1.12!
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What is the best way to configure the AU plugin so that I can record and playback everything without crashes?
After following the instructions I got the editor to work.
Having switched off the REV2 Plugin's MIDI (or USB) channels in the DAW, i need the AUX midi output to be able to record note data played on the REV2 in my DAW.
Unfortunately, the editor crashes when sending MOD or PITCH wheel data. When AUX output is off, the wheels work fine, causing no crash but in that case I can't get the notes from the REV2 be recorded.
When I put LOCAL = off in global settings, the parameter changes on the hardware are visible on the editor, but not audible!
A last question: is it normal the Plugin / Editor works slower via MIDI connection (via a iConnectivity MIDI DIN port) than via USB?
Thanks for the help!
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What is the best way to configure the AU plugin so that I can record and playback everything without crashes?
After following the instructions I got the editor to work.
Having switched off the REV2 Plugin's MIDI (or USB) channels in the DAW, i need the AUX midi output to be able to record note data played on the REV2 in my DAW.
Unfortunately, the editor crashes when sending MOD or PITCH wheel data. When AUX output is off, the wheels work fine, causing no crash but in that case I can't get the notes from the REV2 be recorded.
When I put LOCAL = off in global settings, the parameter changes on the hardware are visible on the editor, but not audible!
A last question: is it normal the Plugin / Editor works slower via MIDI connection (via a iConnectivity MIDI DIN port) than via USB?
Thanks for the help!
Of course the editor shouldn't crashes. Could you please send me crash report by email?
Please explain what is slower? Something like you track is 120bpm but rev2 plays 100bpm? Or you mean that you have delay/latency? Is it occurs only when record automation from device?
PS. I think it is question for support. Could you please email me on support@codeknobs.com?
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Version 1.9 released!
Changes:
- Polyphonic step sequencer control
- Aux output port. Now you can record MIDI from synthesizer in DAW. On Windows platform it requires virtual midi ports software.
- Fast program recall. You can easy bind 5 programs to buttons on toolbar and load them in editor by one click.
- Dynamic changes parameters names in FX section.
- LFO FREQ and DELAY TIME in synced mode now shows bpm synced values.
- Improved performance
- A lot of minor bugs fixed
Hi, I demo'ed the Prophet REV2 Editor VST/AU 1.12, and I really like it. However, my only problem was figuring out how to be able to record the midi from the rev2 keyboard, into my DAW, while using this vst? I know there is the aux output port, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to work. I am using Windows 10, Ableton Live Suite 10. You mentioned that on Windows, I'll need "virtual midi ports software". Where can I find this? Thank you!
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Version 1.13 released!
Changes:
- Local Control OFF mode support
- Fix bugs with AUX port on OS X
- Different minor fixes for REV2
- Record automation from device now works when the editor window is closed
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Hi, I demo'ed the Prophet REV2 Editor VST/AU 1.12, and I really like it. However, my only problem was figuring out how to be able to record the midi from the rev2 keyboard, into my DAW, while using this vst? I know there is the aux output port, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to work. I am using Windows 10, Ableton Live Suite 10. You mentioned that on Windows, I'll need "virtual midi ports software". Where can I find this? Thank you!
How to record MIDI from synthesizer in DAW
On OS X
1. Enable checkbox “Aux Output Port” in the editor preferences
2. Add or enable input MIDI port “ProphetREV2Editor_AUX” in your DAW
On Windows
Unfortunately on Windows platform this required additional virtual MIDI ports software. I highly recommend loopMIDI by Tobias Erichsen (https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html (https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)). Also I recommend to use virtual MIDI ports software instead any hardware solution because low latency.
1. Run loopMIDI and add MIDI port with name like “REV2_aux”
2. Open the editor and set this created port in “Aux Output Port”.
3. Add or enable input MIDI port “REV2_aux” in your DAW.
Also in some cases you can get midi loop issues. It depends from setup and midi routing on your side. To avoid this you can disable “Local Control” on device and enable “Local Control Support”in the editor preferences. Again, “Local Control Support” should be enabled when “Local control” is OFF on device. This feature was added in 1.13 version.
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Hi, I demo'ed the Prophet REV2 Editor VST/AU 1.12, and I really like it. However, my only problem was figuring out how to be able to record the midi from the rev2 keyboard, into my DAW, while using this vst? I know there is the aux output port, but I couldn't figure out how to get it to work. I am using Windows 10, Ableton Live Suite 10. You mentioned that on Windows, I'll need "virtual midi ports software". Where can I find this? Thank you!
How to record MIDI from synthesizer in DAW
On OS X
1. Enable checkbox “Aux Output Port” in the editor preferences
2. Add or enable input MIDI port “ProphetREV2Editor_AUX” in your DAW
On Windows
Unfortunately on Windows platform this required additional virtual MIDI ports software. I highly recommend loopMIDI by Tobias Erichsen (https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html (https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html)). Also I recommend to use virtual MIDI ports software instead any hardware solution because low latency.
1. Run loopMIDI and add MIDI port with name like “REV2_aux”
2. Open the editor and set this created port in “Aux Output Port”.
3. Add or enable input MIDI port “REV2_aux” in your DAW.
Also in some cases you can get midi loop issues. It depends from setup and midi routing on your side. To avoid this you can disable “Local Control” on device and enable “Local Control Support”in the editor preferences. Again, “Local Control Support” should be enabled when “Local control” is OFF on device. This feature was added in 1.13 version.
Thank you!
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codeKnobs: have you tested DSI's REV2 VST/AU product with Ableton Live Version 10? Just wondering if anyone has used this with Version 10. I realize it should work fine regardless of the DAW they are using but curious to know other people's DAW environment currently in use with your product.
Works great for me with Ableton Live 10 especially after version posted at 4/20/2018! I use AU version.
codeKnobs was super responsive to help with small issues!
Multiple instances feature is a killer one! I wish my Moog the Subsequent 37 editor had that too.
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Just must say that I'm having tons of fun with the Rev2 editor in my productions inside Live10. Using the editor inside the gated sequencer is producing arpeggios like you wouldn't believe inside of my tracks!
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Hi, just testing the editor out with my Rev2, it seems great, one question before I purchase:
Is it possible to map the Program Select to my Push 2? It doesn't seem selectable when I try and map it through Ableton and I often like to lay down some midi before scrolling through different presets, it'd be nice to do this from my push instead of going over to the rev2
Edit - Ok purchased anyway as it seems great and stable but if the above feature could be added that would be most appreciated :)
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Hi, just testing the editor out with my Rev2, it seems great, one question before I purchase:
Is it possible to map the Program Select to my Push 2? It doesn't seem selectable when I try and map it through Ableton and I often like to lay down some midi before scrolling through different presets, it'd be nice to do this from my push instead of going over to the rev2
Edit - Ok purchased anyway as it seems great and stable but if the above feature could be added that would be most appreciated :)
Sorry for late response. You can browse rev2 programs (from banks on device) from Push2 by "Browse" button as with any other vst.
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NEW VERSION 1.15 RELEASED!
New features:
1. Input Clock midi port. Now you can route MIDI clock and sync messages from DAW to synthesizer to sync arp and seq.
2. Latency parameter in preferences. Now you can set latency between playing note and signal on audio interface. Сhanging this parameter requires disabling and enabling the plugin instance.
3. Delay parameter in preferences. Sets delay for playing sequence, Can be useful for sync DAW and synthesizer when audio signal doesn't captures in audio interface in DAW and routed to console etc.
4. Sidechain audio input. Now you can route audio data to the editor, it can be useful in some DAWs when you want to process audio on channel with the editor.
Fixes:
- Fix plugin audio output. Now it is stereo.
- Fix issue with displaying VST in Studio One 3 and 4
- Different minor fixes in layouts
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Hi, just testing the editor out with my Rev2, it seems great, one question before I purchase:
Is it possible to map the Program Select to my Push 2? It doesn't seem selectable when I try and map it through Ableton and I often like to lay down some midi before scrolling through different presets, it'd be nice to do this from my push instead of going over to the rev2
Edit - Ok purchased anyway as it seems great and stable but if the above feature could be added that would be most appreciated :)
Sorry for late response. You can browse rev2 programs (from banks on device) from Push2 by "Browse" button as with any other vst.
hmm when I'm on the channel that has the editor and I press the Browse button on Push2, it only takes me to the normal browse mode where it lets me swap instruments etc. Are you please able to explain further?
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hmm when I'm on the channel that has the editor and I press the Browse button on Push2, it only takes me to the normal browse mode where it lets me swap instruments etc. Are you please able to explain further?
--> https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209776485-Push-1-2-Browsing-plug-in-presets
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hmm when I'm on the channel that has the editor and I press the Browse button on Push2, it only takes me to the normal browse mode where it lets me swap instruments etc. Are you please able to explain further?
--> https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209776485-Push-1-2-Browsing-plug-in-presets
Ah thank you, it's a problem with AU's I see
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Hey guys, I've had this for a little while but haven't been able to integrate it into my workflow. I'd really like to because I feel like it could be huge advantage.
Do you have any advice/tips or know if its possible to save a Rev2 Patch as an Ableton Device or Instrument Rack? I wrap my head around the library.
I don't so much care about having the patches stored on the Rev2, so long as I can save them quickly within Ableton and load them up just as quick.
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Hi community. Is someone using the vst editor with Cubase? I have a question regarding the setup within Cubase. Thank you in advance.
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Hi community. Is someone using the vst editor with Cubase? I have a question regarding the setup within Cubase. Thank you in advance.
I just bough CodeKnobs yesterday and will use it in Cubase tonight. What is your question?
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Hi community. Is someone using the vst editor with Cubase? I have a question regarding the setup within Cubase. Thank you in advance.
I just bough CodeKnobs yesterday and will use it in Cubase tonight. What is your question?
Hi Ron. Thank you for taking your time. I have started to integrate the rev 2 into my workflow using the vst editor. Is it correct that I have to create an additional audio track to receive the audio signal from the rev2?
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Hi community. Is someone using the vst editor with Cubase? I have a question regarding the setup within Cubase. Thank you in advance.
I just bough CodeKnobs yesterday and will use it in Cubase tonight. What is your question?
Hi Ron. Thank you for taking your time. I have started to integrate the rev 2 into my workflow using the vst editor. Is it correct that I have to create an additional audio track to receive the audio signal from the rev2?
I have created a multi-track preset for the Rev2 that loads 3 tracks in total...
1. A midi track pointed at the Rev2.
2. An audio track for monitoring the Rev2 outputs.
3. A VST Instrument track that has the Codeknobs editor already loaded.
There might be a simpler way but this works great for me.
I use Nuendo with the Cubase add ons so this should apply to Cubase as well.
(Edit)
I should add that I'm using the USB connection for the editor only. 5 Pin Midi for everything else...Notes, Controllers etc.
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Hi community. Is someone using the vst editor with Cubase? I have a question regarding the setup within Cubase. Thank you in advance.
I just bough CodeKnobs yesterday and will use it in Cubase tonight. What is your question?
Hi Ron. Thank you for taking your time. I have started to integrate the rev 2 into my workflow using the vst editor. Is it correct that I have to create an additional audio track to receive the audio signal from the rev2?
I have created a multi-track preset for the Rev2 that loads 3 tracks in total...
1. A midi track pointed at the Rev2.
2. An audio track for monitoring the Rev2 outputs.
3. A VST Instrument track that has the Codeknobs editor already loaded.
There might be a simpler way but this works great for me.
I use Nuendo with the Cubase add ons so this should apply to Cubase as well.
I have more or less the same. I started with only 1 for midi and 1 for audio. That should be sufficient.
I noticed something annoying. The volume knob on the Rev2 sends midi volume controller midi as well.
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Hi community. Is someone using the vst editor with Cubase? I have a question regarding the setup within Cubase. Thank you in advance.
I just bough CodeKnobs yesterday and will use it in Cubase tonight. What is your question?
Hi Ron. Thank you for taking your time. I have started to integrate the rev 2 into my workflow using the vst editor. Is it correct that I have to create an additional audio track to receive the audio signal from the rev2?
I have created a multi-track preset for the Rev2 that loads 3 tracks in total...
1. A midi track pointed at the Rev2.
2. An audio track for monitoring the Rev2 outputs.
3. A VST Instrument track that has the Codeknobs editor already loaded.
There might be a simpler way but this works great for me.
I use Nuendo with the Cubase add ons so this should apply to Cubase as well.
I have more or less the same. I started with only 1 for midi and 1 for audio. That should be sufficient.
I noticed something annoying. The volume knob on the Rev2 sends midi volume controller midi as well.
Thank you guys. It seems that I did everything right. The only difference is that I have no additional midi track. I record midi notes directly to the rack instrument track with the editor loaded. I use USB as midi connection.
The volume knob indeed is sending midi and it happened several times when controlling a softsynth that I changed volume...
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I really like the Codeknobs editor but there is one thing that could be improved. And that is using the available space a bit better; especially with the gated sequencer. The font and the slider are so tiny (on my screen) that it is very hard to slide and read). So if all the labels of the values would get a font that is a bit bigger that would be great.
First I was going to make an editor myself but I just have no time (making music is already hard), but when I see issues in an existing one it start itching :-)
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I really like the Codeknobs editor but there is one thing that could be improved. And that is using the available space a bit better; especially with the gated sequencer. The font and the slider are so tiny (on my screen) that it is very hard to slide and read). So if all the labels of the values would get a font that is a bit bigger that would be great.
First I was going to make an editor myself but I just have no time (making music is already hard), but when I see issues in an existing one it start itching :-)
Thank you for the feedback! BTW you can scale UI in the editor preferences. :)
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Hi codeknobs, is the Morphing function available in your editor?
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I really like the Codeknobs editor but there is one thing that could be improved. And that is using the available space a bit better; especially with the gated sequencer. The font and the slider are so tiny (on my screen) that it is very hard to slide and read). So if all the labels of the values would get a font that is a bit bigger that would be great.
First I was going to make an editor myself but I just have no time (making music is already hard), but when I see issues in an existing one it start itching :-)
Thank you for the feedback! BTW you can scale UI in the editor preferences. :)
I can only go up to 125%, if I go higher I only see blocks, no text.
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Hi there,
I released Prophet REV2 editor - VST editor for the Prophet REV2. Now you can store your patches within DAW project, automate synthesizer parameters and much more!
Product page: http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=7 (http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=7)
(http://codeknobs.com/images/v3/rev2.png)
I bought the SoundTower one and I'm not too sure it works that well : / I have a MAC.
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I can only go up to 125%, if I go higher I only see blocks, no text.
This is bug. I'm working on fix that reduce video memory usage for fonts. Maybe this helps.
If you on PC please update video drivers to latest. Usually this helps. Often this issue occurs on CPU integrated video adapters.
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I can only go up to 125%, if I go higher I only see blocks, no text.
This is bug. I'm working on fix that reduce video memory usage for fonts. Maybe this helps.
If you on PC please update video drivers to latest. Usually this helps. Often this issue occurs on CPU integrated video adapters.
I'm on MacOS. For some reason I can scale up to 200% in my MacBook Pro (15inch retina) but I get blocks on my MacMini with more than 125%.
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Out of curiosity, codeKnobs, does this allow to automate Gated sequencer contents ?
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hi codeknobs, does did editor have an edge over Soundtower's? e.g. design layout, extra features
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sorry for the typo, wanted to ask what are the pros & cons of CodeKnobs vs SoundTower?
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Hi, I'm really enjoying the editor, can't recommend it highly enough - It's super stable, it hasn't lost connection with my REV2 once, I haven't noticed any bugs and the UI is nice and clean.
Question: The REV2 is the first synth I've owned where I actually like and use a lot of the presets, not all of them but probably about 20%. I don't love the way DSI has laid out the user and factory presets though.
Ideally I would like to organise things as follows: U1 P1-P30: The presets I have made so far, U1 P30-P128: INIT (with the view of overwriting these to new patches I make in the future). U2 P1-P128: All the factory presets I do like in one place. U3 P1-P128: INIT. U4 P1-P128: INIT.
Is there a quick and easy way to do this through the editor?
Also, not related to the editor but is there a way to change the default INIT patch on the REV2? One thing that always annoys me is the OSC MIX knob being set 100% to OSC1, I'd prefer it to be in the middle at 50% as it frustrates me how it drops in volume as I turn the knob towards 50% (too picky? lol)
Open to opinions/different ways of looking at both of these things :)
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Question: The REV2 is the first synth I've owned where I actually like and use a lot of the presets, not all of them but probably about 20%. I don't love the way DSI has laid out the user and factory presets though.
Ideally I would like to organise things as follows: U1 P1-P30: The presets I have made so far, U1 P30-P128: INIT (with the view of overwriting these to new patches I make in the future). U2 P1-P128: All the factory presets I do like in one place. U3 P1-P128: INIT. U4 P1-P128: INIT.
Is there a quick and easy way to do this through the editor?
+1 for this. Is it possible to drag and drop presets into the bank rather than import & export entire banks?
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Hi, I'm really enjoying the editor, can't recommend it highly enough - It's super stable, it hasn't lost connection with my REV2 once, I haven't noticed any bugs and the UI is nice and clean.
Question: The REV2 is the first synth I've owned where I actually like and use a lot of the presets, not all of them but probably about 20%. I don't love the way DSI has laid out the user and factory presets though.
Ideally I would like to organise things as follows: U1 P1-P30: The presets I have made so far, U1 P30-P128: INIT (with the view of overwriting these to new patches I make in the future). U2 P1-P128: All the factory presets I do like in one place. U3 P1-P128: INIT. U4 P1-P128: INIT.
Is there a quick and easy way to do this through the editor?
Also, not related to the editor but is there a way to change the default INIT patch on the REV2? One thing that always annoys me is the OSC MIX knob being set 100% to OSC1, I'd prefer it to be in the middle at 50% as it frustrates me how it drops in volume as I turn the knob towards 50% (too picky? lol)
Open to opinions/different ways of looking at both of these things :)
1. At first I want to say that main idea of vst/au editor is work with hardware synthesizer as with software synthesizer and keep usable features of work with hardware synthesizer. Therefore the main tool for work with patches is Preset Manager (PM), it much usable then banks of patches on your device. For example I newer save and switch paches on synthesizer banks and use only PM. I tag my patches and then can easy filter and switch them by one click. I'm not worried about where to save it on the device etc. Also there is a 5 "Fast Presets" buttons where you can assing different "init patches" and recall them by one click.
2. Answering your qustion. Yes, you compile your patches to banks as you want. You should import all patches to PM and then copy patches from PM to Export panel in order as you want and then save compiled bank to device. You can check synthet tutorial to learn more about PM and preset management. https://youtu.be/BCZH1j4eavo
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Out of curiosity, codeKnobs, does this allow to automate Gated sequencer contents ?
Unfortunately no.
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Hi CodeKnobs and thank you for this wonderful software!
It is possible to delete tags?? I couldn't do that; it would be extremely helpful
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Hi CodeKnobs and thank you for this wonderful software!
It is possible to delete tags?? I couldn't do that; it would be extremely helpful
There is no special option for deleting user tags. For delete user tags you should remove this tags from all patches that this tags was assigned. It's vey easy:
1. Filter patches by pressing tag that you want to delete in Program Manager.
2. Select all filtered patches by using Ctrl/Cmd + a and then press pencil button in Program Manager panel
3. Deselect tag you want to delete. And close window.
4. Close and reopen editor window, the tag should be deleted and not present in tag list.
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New version 1.16 released!
Changes:
- Reduced video memory usage
- Minor fixes and changes
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Just got a Rev2 and I am looking for an editor. I downloaded the Codeknobs demo version and I have two question:
1. If I disable midi in Ableton live so that the editor can get a connection, how would I record midi notes? Would I have to switch on and off the setting each time?
2. Is there a Poly Sequencer in the making? I always found this very useful and used it a lot on the Sub37 VST editor.
Thanks for any advice!
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Just got a Rev2 and I am looking for an editor. I downloaded the Codeknobs demo version and I have two question:
1. If I disable midi in Ableton live so that the editor can get a connection, how would I record midi notes? Would I have to switch on and off the setting each time?
2. Is there a Poly Sequencer in the making? I always found this very useful and used it a lot on the Sub37 VST editor.
Thanks for any advice!
I have the Rev2's "USB" midi ports disabled in Nuendo's midi preferences. Instead, I use the 5 pin midi cable connections for Nuendo via a midi interface. This frees up the Rev2's USB midi ports for the editor. Works great.
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Just got a Rev2 and I am looking for an editor. I downloaded the Codeknobs demo version and I have two question:
1. If I disable midi in Ableton live so that the editor can get a connection, how would I record midi notes? Would I have to switch on and off the setting each time?
2. Is there a Poly Sequencer in the making? I always found this very useful and used it a lot on the Sub37 VST editor.
Thanks for any advice!
I have the Rev2's "USB" midi ports disabled in Nuendo's midi preferences. Instead, I use the 5 pin midi cable connections for Nuendo via a midi interface. This frees up the Rev2's USB midi ports for the editor. Works great.
Thank you for your reply. As far as I understand you, you are using both the old 5 pin cables and the USB cable at the same time assigning them accordingly. I will try this. However, I'm still looking for a proper editor for the sequencer (not the gated) - is there such a thing available somewhere? I recall that there is an editor for the P08 which includes all functions.
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Just got a Rev2 and I am looking for an editor. I downloaded the Codeknobs demo version and I have two question:
1. If I disable midi in Ableton live so that the editor can get a connection, how would I record midi notes? Would I have to switch on and off the setting each time?
2. Is there a Poly Sequencer in the making? I always found this very useful and used it a lot on the Sub37 VST editor.
Thanks for any advice!
I have the Rev2's "USB" midi ports disabled in Nuendo's midi preferences. Instead, I use the 5 pin midi cable connections for Nuendo via a midi interface. This frees up the Rev2's USB midi ports for the editor. Works great.
Thank you for your reply. As far as I understand you, you are using both the old 5 pin cables and the USB cable at the same time assigning them accordingly. I will try this. However, I'm still looking for a proper editor for the sequencer (not the gated) - is there such a thing available somewhere? I recall that there is an editor for the P08 which includes all functions.
There is a poly sequencer in the editor
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Other than a program banks manager, I've never understood the point of such software for editing sounds on a computer screen, when the hardware synth offers 55 physical knobs and 35 real buttons that are just waiting for you to tweak with your bare hands !?
And since almost anything can modulate anything else on that same hardware synth, the automation feature seems rather pointless too...
Am I missing something ? But maybe I'm too "old school". After all, I'm 10 years older than my 1975 Minimoog D... ;-)
I can tell you why some would want an editor, sine I'm a heavy user of editors... I'm actually so used to them, that working the REV2 from the front panel is frustrating to me, and this is why:
I get a much better overview of a program I'm working on, when I can see all and every parameter on the screen at one time... my own editor has ALL parameters on ONE single screen, even both layers.... I can't state enough how much faster it is to program sounds this way.
Yes... you get A LOT of tweakability on the REV2... but it's nowhere near the same as using an editor still... the REV2 is basically a "one layer front panel"... that means, that if you only edit a single layer, it might be fine using the front panel, but as soon as you enter layer B, then all controls no longer fit the parameter values... and if you tweak any, then layer A will not be the same anymore either... that fact is more than enough to warrant the use of an editor.
But also the LFO section has this problem in even a single layer since you control four of them using the same controls... also a lot of the essential parameters are hidden away in the MISC PARAMETERS section... also try programming the four gated sequencers effectively from that small stepped display... using a screen with all four lined up perfectly under each other is a lot easier... not to mention the mod matrix as well.
In short: REV2 is in no way a one-knob-per-function synth... it cannot be with all those parameters... thus having a good editor is crucial to me at least... especially when you start to mess with creating stacked programs... then it's really handy to be able to quickly see and edit both layers at the same time because the two sounds very often play together a lot. Programming from an editor saves a h*** of a lot of time too.
That's my explanation of why editors are popular :)
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Hi codeKnobs and fellow board members,
I've been trying out the trial version in Ableton Live 10, i see your specs specify that you can have multiple instances of the VST.
I've tried 2 tracks with 2 differents presets set.
When i add some midi in one track then some midi in another track in "song mode" for instance, well it plays the active one but doesn't play anything in the second track. (I made sure both tracks aren't playing at the same time as i guess this doesn't make sense)
Is is possible to switch automatically to the active instance ?
Thanks,
James
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Hi codeKnobs and fellow board members,
I've been trying out the trial version in Ableton Live 10, i see your specs specify that you can have multiple instances of the VST.
I've tried 2 tracks with 2 differents presets set.
When i add some midi in one track then some midi in another track in "song mode" for instance, well it plays the active one but doesn't play anything in the second track. (I made sure both tracks aren't playing at the same time as i guess this doesn't make sense)
Is is possible to switch automatically to the active instance ?
Thanks,
James
Apologizes for late answer. Unfortunately no. Only manual switch.
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X-MAS SALES! REV2 editor just for 34$!
http://codeknobs.com/products.php?id=7
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When I record playing a riff and knob movements and then play it back the synth reacts correctly but I can not see the parameters that are recorded at all, so can not alter them when in
stuff up :).
Same with the P12. I’m using Logic X btw, and to be clear it’s the recorded knob values I can not see, the actually notes I can see fine.
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When I record playing a riff and knob movements and then play it back the synth reacts correctly but I can not see the parameters that are recorded at all, so can not alter them when in
stuff up :).
Same with the P12. I’m using Logic X btw, and to be clear it’s the recorded knob values I can not see, the actually notes I can see fine.
Knobs record through VST/AU protocol, not MIDI. The workflow with any other software instrument.
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Hi!
I recently bought the REV2 editor AU plugin and I like it a lot. Far nicer than the Soundtower version in my opinion.
So far I just have one problem with it in Logic X - If I record a midi performance playing the synth and afterwards add parameter automation by recording knob movements on the REV (on the same software instrument track), I start getting strange, irregular latencies on some of the notes/chords in the midi sequence. The more parameters I automate, the worse the problem gets. I have also noticed that the latency disappears if I shorten the notes, so there are pretty long gaps between them. If I disable all automation on the track, the performance is played just like it was recorded. Just to clearify - it is not the typical latency issue discussed earlier in this thread, where all the midi is a bit out of sync - just some of the notes/chords in the sequence are heard quite long after the actual midi note is played.
I don’t know if this is a problem with the plugin, or the synth itself. Has anyone else experienced this in Logic and know a solution?
I have the latest version of Logic X, the REV is connected via USB and I have set up both the synth and editor plugin according to the configuration guide.
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Okay I am full on struggling with something that I consider fundamental to a piece of software like this, so I must be doing something wrong.
I'd made a bunch of patches myself and used Synthet to create a new project and dumped all the patches into it. I've since then filled all 4 user banks with 3rd party patches and tonight decided to reload all my own patches.
How do I send everything from a Synthet project file to the Rev2?
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Hi!
I recently bought the REV2 editor AU plugin and I like it a lot. Far nicer than the Soundtower version in my opinion.
So far I just have one problem with it in Logic X - If I record a midi performance playing the synth and afterwards add parameter automation by recording knob movements on the REV (on the same software instrument track), I start getting strange, irregular latencies on some of the notes/chords in the midi sequence. The more parameters I automate, the worse the problem gets. I have also noticed that the latency disappears if I shorten the notes, so there are pretty long gaps between them. If I disable all automation on the track, the performance is played just like it was recorded. Just to clearify - it is not the typical latency issue discussed earlier in this thread, where all the midi is a bit out of sync - just some of the notes/chords in the sequence are heard quite long after the actual midi note is played.
I don’t know if this is a problem with the plugin, or the synth itself. Has anyone else experienced this in Logic and know a solution?
I have the latest version of Logic X, the REV is connected via USB and I have set up both the synth and editor plugin according to the configuration guide.
I got similar issue but with AS-1 not with REV2 on windoiws (didn't checked on OS X). It's looks like system glitches because big count of midi messages. If reduce midi messages count (disable or make simple automation) everething sounds good. I guess that device (or something on driver side) does not have time to process midi data. This issue easy to reproduce and without editor.
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Okay I am full on struggling with something that I consider fundamental to a piece of software like this, so I must be doing something wrong.
I'd made a bunch of patches myself and used Synthet to create a new project and dumped all the patches into it. I've since then filled all 4 user banks with 3rd party patches and tonight decided to reload all my own patches.
How do I send everything from a Synthet project file to the Rev2?
Synthet project can contain only one patche per instance (instances I mean synthet feature). Did you mean that you imported patches to Program Manager in synthet?
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I got similar issue but with AS-1 not with REV2 on windoiws (didn't checked on OS X). It's looks like system glitches because big count of midi messages. If reduce midi messages count (disable or make simple automation) everething sounds good. I guess that device (or something on driver side) does not have time to process midi data. This issue easy to reproduce and without editor.
Thanks for the reply! I tried simplifying the automation (see attached image) and this time I just automated the Cutoff parameter, but I still get a really long delay on the last chord in the sequence. Pretty strange if the Rev can't handle such a small amount of automation data without latency..
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Okay I am full on struggling with something that I consider fundamental to a piece of software like this, so I must be doing something wrong.
I'd made a bunch of patches myself and used Synthet to create a new project and dumped all the patches into it. I've since then filled all 4 user banks with 3rd party patches and tonight decided to reload all my own patches.
How do I send everything from a Synthet project file to the Rev2?
Synthet project can contain only one patche per instance (instances I mean synthet feature). Did you mean that you imported patches to Program Manager in synthet?
One patch? So you can't use Synthet to simply dump all your voices into a project and save it, therefore creating a backup of everything?
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Okay I am full on struggling with something that I consider fundamental to a piece of software like this, so I must be doing something wrong.
I'd made a bunch of patches myself and used Synthet to create a new project and dumped all the patches into it. I've since then filled all 4 user banks with 3rd party patches and tonight decided to reload all my own patches.
How do I send everything from a Synthet project file to the Rev2?
Synthet project can contain only one patche per instance (instances I mean synthet feature). Did you mean that you imported patches to Program Manager in synthet?
One patch? So you can't use Synthet to simply dump all your voices into a project and save it, therefore creating a backup of everything?
You can dump your programs to Program Manager in synthet, mark special tag and recall in any time you want. Please see tutorial video https://youtu.be/BCZH1j4eavo
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I got similar issue but with AS-1 not with REV2 on windoiws (didn't checked on OS X). It's looks like system glitches because big count of midi messages. If reduce midi messages count (disable or make simple automation) everething sounds good. I guess that device (or something on driver side) does not have time to process midi data. This issue easy to reproduce and without editor.
Thanks for the reply! I tried simplifying the automation (see attached image) and this time I just automated the Cutoff parameter, but I still get a really long delay on the last chord in the sequence. Pretty strange if the Rev can't handle such a small amount of automation data without latency..
BTW it can be midi loop. Did you tried to disable Local Control in REV2 Globals?
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You can dump your programs to Program Manager in synthet, mark special tag and recall in any time you want. Please see tutorial video
Thanks but I think I'll call it a day. If that's the only instructions for this software then I'm not going to be able to use it. I personally find that video unwatchable.
Thanks for your help but I'll find another way to do backup/restore of the whole synth.
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I've had this for a while and keep trying to integrate it into my Ableton setup but failing each time. Maybe I'm missing something simple.
I'd like to still be able to use my Rev2 as a midi instrument while also using the Editor VST. I can't seem to set up the Rev2 as an external instrument and use the editor at the same time, only one or the other.
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I've had this for a while and keep trying to integrate it into my Ableton setup but failing each time. Maybe I'm missing something simple.
I'd like to still be able to use my Rev2 as a midi instrument while also using the Editor VST. I can't seem to set up the Rev2 as an external instrument and use the editor at the same time, only one or the other.
The creator helped me figure this one out!
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I'll never understand someone buying a synth full of buttons and knobs, only to want to control/program it via software...
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I'll never understand someone buying a synth full of buttons and knobs, only to want to control/program it via software...
I generally agree but I see a real interest in editing the sequencer and even more gated sequencer...
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I'll never understand someone buying a synth full of buttons and knobs, only to want to control/program it via software...
Razmo gave a detailed answer to this on the previous page.
My answer is: you get all benefits of work with software instruments and keep all benefits of work with hardware instruments.
- You don't need save your sounds in synthesizer memory because it saves in DAW project
- You see actual parameters of the patch
- You can easy automate parameters, you don't need to remember CCs etc
- Usable preset manager and tools for generating new sounds.
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Hello Alexey/codeknobs,
I am still having some issues getting your Editor to work with my setup. I am using Logic X (latest version) and the editor (and hardware) is not recieving the bpm from my DAW. I tried varius settings, but somehow I am missing the right one. What do I have to do (DAW, Editor, Hardware) to make it work.
Also - I like the side audio feature, BUT I only get Mono Input options from the drop-down menu. ?!
I hope you/someone can help me. I really love your editor... .
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Hello Alexey/codeknobs,
I am still having some issues getting your Editor to work with my setup. I am using Logic X (latest version) and the editor (and hardware) is not recieving the bpm from my DAW. I tried varius settings, but somehow I am missing the right one. What do I have to do (DAW, Editor, Hardware) to make it work.
Also - I like the side audio feature, BUT I only get Mono Input options from the drop-down menu. ?!
I hope you/someone can help me. I really love your editor... .
Ok - Great, I found the BPM Button. :o (but still wondering if a stereo input could be added to the 'Side audio'...)
I really love codeknobs Editor, one feature (if possible!?) woud be great if the editor is switching to Layer B when you press the Layer B button... . (And FX when the FX button is pressed...) It would make the workflow more intuitive.
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I'll never understand someone buying a synth full of buttons and knobs, only to want to control/program it via software...
Haha, I'm not surprised, as you've got a Matrix 6 only used as a MIDI controller, because it's a PITA to program it from the front panel buttons ;)... while there are editors that make the programming swift and easy for it. It's a bit of a shame not to use the Matrix 6 as the synth it is, I mean the filters are REALLY nice...
Meanwhile, the Rev2 is not so easy to program the gated sequencers on, as the Prophet 08 is. On the prophet 08 you can program each of the 16 steps simultaneously, and switch between the 4 sequencers, where as on the Rev2 you can only do one step at a time, with the parameter/value knobs... Also, the mod matrix is quite neat to program from an editor, as you get an overview and can change each modulation without having to step between them. To each his own, I suppose, but in some cases an editor really does make sense... Now I'm not fond of the PC approach, mouse and all, but to me that's where the iPad comes in...
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I'll never understand someone buying a synth full of buttons and knobs, only to want to control/program it via software...
Many have already expressed this but let me chime in as this was literally what I was talking about right before you posted.
I don't even program my synth via the editor at all. Zero.
The editor is great because it allows me to save a Rev2 patch into an Ableton Rack complete with any additional effects I want to add into that rack. These settings can be easily pulled up with any project I open and I can even use multiple instances at once, provided I play them one at a time (which is fine because I often do this per part and resample the audio.)
Oh and despite the fact that I don't use it as an editor, I could totally understand that others may have different experiences from my own and may want to utilize the editor in their unique situation/setup.
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I've bought the editor but actually not used it that much. Maybe for renaming patches in a convenient way.
Nowadays I tend to not even save every patch, only when it is a complicated one; A lot of patches you can create create by turning all the potmeters; just like the old days :-) So I basically have some base sounds that I always work with and change them to what I like that day. Next day it may be something different.
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I updated user manual and added few paragraphs:
- How to capture audio from synthesizer in DAW and process it on same track with the editor.
- How to record MIDI from synthesizer in DAW.
- How to sync BPM, work in slave mode.
Hope it will helpful for users.
https://codeknobs.com/how_to_configure_v3.php#capture
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I tried the plugin and quite like it (it is much more responsive and user friend than the official competition).
Quick question from my side. I'm using the REV2 (keyboard version) as the main keyboard controller with Ableton. It looks like the plugin being hooked to the Rev2 midi in/out, I can no longer use the keyboard for other purposes (not even record MIDI).
To mitigate that, I went into the global controls, set 12.MIDI Out Select to MIDI+USB and then connected the midi out to another midi in. Is that the expected way to proceed? Sounds a bit over complicated to me providing that Rev2 USB was already available. Also when I play the Rev2 through DAW I now have duplicate midi event since both USB and MIDI are sent to this lane. Bit lost here, what is the best practice?
Edit: there is another issue with the clock port. Why does it have to be another AUX port which again cannot be shared with the DAW? Ultimately all MIDI are preemptively hooked and the sound comes from an external effect. This is a weird design, could you make it truly VST, that is sharing I/Os with the DAW?
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I tried the plugin and quite like it (it is much more responsive and user friend than the official competition).
Quick question from my side. I'm using the REV2 (keyboard version) as the main keyboard controller with Ableton. It looks like the plugin being hooked to the Rev2 midi in/out, I can no longer use the keyboard for other purposes (not even record MIDI).
To mitigate that, I went into the global controls, set 12.MIDI Out Select to MIDI+USB and then connected the midi out to another midi in. Is that the expected way to proceed? Sounds a bit over complicated to me providing that Rev2 USB was already available. Also when I play the Rev2 through DAW I now have duplicate midi event since both USB and MIDI are sent to this lane. Bit lost here, what is the best practice?
I think more simpler way is to use solution with additional MIDI ports described in manual
Edit: there is another issue with the clock port. Why does it have to be another AUX port which again cannot be shared with the DAW? Ultimately all MIDI are preemptively hooked and the sound comes from an external effect. This is a weird design, could you make it truly VST, that is sharing I/Os with the DAW?
It's limited by VST standart. VST plugins can't access to I/O of audio intergace and MIDI ports used in DAW. VST disigned for software instruments, therefore such sulutions implemented in the editor
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I tried the plugin and quite like it (it is much more responsive and user friend than the official competition).
Quick question from my side. I'm using the REV2 (keyboard version) as the main keyboard controller with Ableton. It looks like the plugin being hooked to the Rev2 midi in/out, I can no longer use the keyboard for other purposes (not even record MIDI).
To mitigate that, I went into the global controls, set 12.MIDI Out Select to MIDI+USB and then connected the midi out to another midi in. Is that the expected way to proceed? Sounds a bit over complicated to me providing that Rev2 USB was already available. Also when I play the Rev2 through DAW I now have duplicate midi event since both USB and MIDI are sent to this lane. Bit lost here, what is the best practice?
I think more simpler way is to use solution with additional MIDI ports described in manual
Edit: there is another issue with the clock port. Why does it have to be another AUX port which again cannot be shared with the DAW? Ultimately all MIDI are preemptively hooked and the sound comes from an external effect. This is a weird design, could you make it truly VST, that is sharing I/Os with the DAW?
It's limited by VST standart. VST plugins can't access to I/O of audio intergace and MIDI ports used in DAW. VST disigned for software instruments, therefore such sulutions implemented in the editor
Thanks CodeKnob you just sold a license ;)
Edit: except that I haven't received a license # or download link. Is there a delay?
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[Edit: except that I haven't received a license # or download link. Is there a delay?
No. Something goes wrong. Please email me to support@codeknobs.com
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[Edit: except that I haven't received a license # or download link. Is there a delay?
No. Something goes wrong. Please email me to support@codeknobs.com
Was a bit rough but we made it ;)
Thanks for the good support Alexey
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Was a bit rough but we made it ;)
Thanks for the good support Alexey
My apologizes for this issue. Usually this doesn't happen :)
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Hi Alexey,
do you have a changelog for the REV2 editor? I just installed the latest version but I was curious as what I have missed.
Thanks,
Ron
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Just want to say that I like REV2 even more now. Also I like to tweak knobs on synth... but saving patches inside of project and "interpolator", "transplantator" features plus quick locking parameters are really super cool and useful!
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For a long time I did not publish news about updates. So... :)
New version 1.23 released!
Changes:
- Minor fixes and improvements
BTW. On my opinion the editor should be pretty stable and bugs free. I use it every day in my production. If you unlucky tried it sometime ago then try it now. But don't forget to properly configure your setup by this article https://codeknobs.com/how_to_configure_v3.php
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Black Friday Sale!
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Thanks for the update CodeKnobs!!! You rock!
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Hi, guys. Have a problem with Rev2Editor.
When i load a preset for the first time, it shows Poly SEQ info correctly. But it initializing this page, every time I close the plugin window. Gated SEQ tab works properly. Does anyone has the same problem?
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Hi
I compared CodeKnobs with SoundTower and CodeKnob is capable of restoring saved settings in Ableton instrument rack while SoundTower does not.
However! also in CodeKnobs, settings are saved only when i save Ableton project PLUS saving the instrument rack containing CodeKnobs VST
In SoundTower you can only save the setting by clicking 'receive' and then go to the preset manager and save the preset, which is ridiculous workflow. BTW the author told me that this is the way to do that...
Do you have other experience?
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Hi, love this software, or at least the potential of what it can do in my music making, but Im having some strange issues in Logic.
If I have a patch on my REV2 module, user or factory, doesn't matter, and then load up the rev2 editor in and instrument slot in Logic, the patch changes. Not to an entirely direct patch, put something strange happens. An dit seems to be different for different patches. ex. I have keyboard sound with organ-like sustain. I load the editor and it be3comes a pluck-ed instrument with zero sustain if I old the keys down.
another example; the factory preset 'dreamlines', is fine, then when I load the editor, there is a bunch of distortion on it.
And then sometimes certain patches are silent.
I can recreate this situation all the time. As I've mentioned in previous posts, I don't have so much experience with outboard midi gear, so I apologize for anything that is obvious to you outboard pros, however I am a long-time Logic user, and I can't seem to figure this out.
Thanks for the help.
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Hi, figured I'd post a situation I dealt with just in case it's bothering anybody else. I know some people mentioned some kind of MIDI issues.
The instructions on CodeKnobs website for setting up the Rev 2 include these two steps
•MIDI Param Send to NPRN
•MIDI Param Receive to NPRN
This however also enables some MIDI CC mappings built into the rev 2, such as CC 20 = osc 1 pitch. This was pissing me off because certain faders/knobs on my MIDI controller were effecting my rev 2 patches. Given the understanding that these settings MUST be set to NPRN per CodeKnobs guide, it seems I'd have to find enough CC values that were undefined by MIDI standard + the rev2, to set my knobs/faders to on my keyboard... this leaves very few values since the rev2 takes advantage of undefined CC values.
I have found that setting "MIDI Param Receive" on the rev 2 to OFF, and setting "Param Receive All" unchecked in the CodeKnobs VST settings menu, that you can still successfully send/receive programs and have the VST and Rev2 knobs be in sync, without arbitrary CC values effecting your patches. I'm not sure what setting Param Receive to NPRN/checked is supposed to accomplish, but since it is defined in the guide I'm assuming there is some functionality I'm missing here that I haven't noticed. Please let me know the purpose of Param Receive within this context if you know.
Anyway, this software is really changing the game on connecting my rev 2 into ableton. I also have the SoundTower software and the CodeKnobs one is much much much cleaner/easier/intuitive, not to mention it's half the price. The fact that I can create 5 tracks in ableton with this VST, and each be a separate instance that I can go back/forth between without even touching any kind of patch saving on the rev 2 or editor is amazing, and now I can now save patches as an ableton instrument. As far as I can tell the only feature SoundTower has over it is the patch morphing thing, but that's not something I care about. I really hope that this software continues to work through whatever wrenches MacOS or Ableton updates might throw at it. Thanks a lot for your work developing this.
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Hi All,
I just wanted to share my experience with this very interesting plugin and hope to find some help/suggestion since my first try was close to a disaster (-;
I am using my Prophet Rev 2 in conjunction with Reason 9.5 on a PC running Windows 7 64 and an old Tascam US 322 with no MIDI connections. (changed later with a Scarlet Focusrite 18i8)
1st attempt with the Tascam US 322 and usb connection (+Midiloop for the virtual port):
All when quite good, following the instruction on setting up both the Rev 2 and the vst.
The problem I have is related to hanging notes, as soon as I use after touch or wheels (pitch and mod)...plus some missing notes here and there.
In few cases, when scrolling the programs knob on the synth, I loose the connection with the vst and need to drag again the vst into the Reason Rack and re-activate.
I started to think that maybe the problem could be related to the usb connection and the lack of a proper MIDI interface.
I then connected my new Scarlet 18i8 with MIDI cables and tried again...seems like worst.
Here are the setting on my Prophet:
3. MIDI channel 1
4. MIDI clock mode OFF
5. MIDI clock cable MIDI
6. MIDI param send NRPN
7. MIDI param rcv NRPN
8. MIDI control ON
9. MIDI program ENABLE
10.MIDI program send ON
11. MIDI sysex cable MIDI
12. MIDI out select MIDI
15. Multimode OFF
16. Local control OFF
I also attach the following:
- Codeknobs preferences
- Midiloop port setting
- Reason control surface
I could not even play any notes on the Rev 2, scrolling programs would cause the Rev 2 to freeze and then play random notes all together...and most of the time a pop up message on screen telling the computer is not fast enough to process all MIDI data (i7 3770k cpu)
If I use the MIDI device inside Reason and forget about the vst editor, everything working great...but of course no editor, no librarian and no full interaction between the Rev 2 and Reason...which was the main idea to implement the vst editor.
Any suggestion?
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Hi, figured I'd post a situation I dealt with just in case it's bothering anybody else. I know some people mentioned some kind of MIDI issues.
The instructions on CodeKnobs website for setting up the Rev 2 include these two steps
•MIDI Param Send to NPRN
•MIDI Param Receive to NPRN
This however also enables some MIDI CC mappings built into the rev 2, such as CC 20 = osc 1 pitch. This was pissing me off because certain faders/knobs on my MIDI controller were effecting my rev 2 patches. Given the understanding that these settings MUST be set to NPRN per CodeKnobs guide, it seems I'd have to find enough CC values that were undefined by MIDI standard + the rev2, to set my knobs/faders to on my keyboard... this leaves very few values since the rev2 takes advantage of undefined CC values.
I have found that setting "MIDI Param Receive" on the rev 2 to OFF, and setting "Param Receive All" unchecked in the CodeKnobs VST settings menu, that you can still successfully send/receive programs and have the VST and Rev2 knobs be in sync, without arbitrary CC values effecting your patches. I'm not sure what setting Param Receive to NPRN/checked is supposed to accomplish, but since it is defined in the guide I'm assuming there is some functionality I'm missing here that I haven't noticed. Please let me know the purpose of Param Receive within this context if you know.
Anyway, this software is really changing the game on connecting my rev 2 into ableton. I also have the SoundTower software and the CodeKnobs one is much much much cleaner/easier/intuitive, not to mention it's half the price. The fact that I can create 5 tracks in ableton with this VST, and each be a separate instance that I can go back/forth between without even touching any kind of patch saving on the rev 2 or editor is amazing, and now I can now save patches as an ableton instrument. As far as I can tell the only feature SoundTower has over it is the patch morphing thing, but that's not something I care about. I really hope that this software continues to work through whatever wrenches MacOS or Ableton updates might throw at it. Thanks a lot for your work developing this.
Thank you for positive review! Btw codeknobs editor aslo have morphing feature and another one for random generation.
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Hi All,
I just wanted to share my experience with this very interesting plugin and hope to find some help/suggestion since my first try was close to a disaster (-;
I am using my Prophet Rev 2 in conjunction with Reason 9.5 on a PC running Windows 7 64 and an old Tascam US 322 with no MIDI connections. (changed later with a Scarlet Focusrite 18i8)
1st attempt with the Tascam US 322 and usb connection (+Midiloop for the virtual port):
All when quite good, following the instruction on setting up both the Rev 2 and the vst.
The problem I have is related to hanging notes, as soon as I use after touch or wheels (pitch and mod)...plus some missing notes here and there.
In few cases, when scrolling the programs knob on the synth, I loose the connection with the vst and need to drag again the vst into the Reason Rack and re-activate.
I started to think that maybe the problem could be related to the usb connection and the lack of a proper MIDI interface.
I then connected my new Scarlet 18i8 with MIDI cables and tried again...seems like worst.
Here are the setting on my Prophet:
3. MIDI channel 1
4. MIDI clock mode OFF
5. MIDI clock cable MIDI
6. MIDI param send NRPN
7. MIDI param rcv NRPN
8. MIDI control ON
9. MIDI program ENABLE
10.MIDI program send ON
11. MIDI sysex cable MIDI
12. MIDI out select MIDI
15. Multimode OFF
16. Local control OFF
I also attach the following:
- Codeknobs preferences
- Midiloop port setting
- Reason control surface
I could not even play any notes on the Rev 2, scrolling programs would cause the Rev 2 to freeze and then play random notes all together...and most of the time a pop up message on screen telling the computer is not fast enough to process all MIDI data (i7 3770k cpu)
If I use the MIDI device inside Reason and forget about the vst editor, everything working great...but of course no editor, no librarian and no full interaction between the Rev 2 and Reason...which was the main idea to implement the vst editor.
Any suggestion?
Hm... settings looks properly, Strange. Could you try to connect your rev2 by USB and disable all music gears and software (except Reason of course). Also could you please try another DAW if it possible?
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Appreciate your answer :)
A copy of Ableton Lite comes with the Scarlet, I will try and see if the problem is persistent.
I realize it could be everything (Maybe Windows 7 or my old PC...???)...excluding the Rev2 connected via midi with the Scarlet, which is working great so far.
When you say "disable all music gears and software", would you include all devices connected to Reason?
I have a Nektar Panorama P6 configured as a master keyboard plus another MAudio locked to a specific track.
A part from that, only Midiloop is running in background to enable the additional virtual port.
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Hi CodeKnobs, is the editor compatible with Catalina? Just wanted to check before I upgraded
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Hi CodeKnobs, is the editor compatible with Catalina? Just wanted to check before I upgraded
Yes, it should work on Catalina but not sure about latest update 10.15.4, can't check now.
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Hi Codeknobs! Thanks for the great editor. I wonder if it is possible to make a backup of the Program Manager database, with all patches and the tagging data I have added? For example, if I want to install the plugin on another computer and transfer the database there.
EDIT: I'm using the plugin on a Mac with Mac OS Mojave and I just found the 'codeKnobs' folder within the 'user/Documents' folder. Here I see a bunch of .tptags-files, which seem to contain all the patches and their tags. Should I copy all these files, if I install the plugin on a new computer, and add them to same location there?
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Hi Codeknobs! Thanks for the great editor. I wonder if it is possible to make a backup of the Program Manager database, with all patches and the tagging data I have added? For example, if I want to install the plugin on another computer and transfer the database there.
EDIT: I'm using the plugin on a Mac with Mac OS Mojave and I just found the 'codeKnobs' folder within the 'user/Documents' folder. Here I see a bunch of .tptags-files, which seem to contain all the patches and their tags. Should I copy all these files, if I install the plugin on a new computer, and add them to same location there?
Yes. codeknobs database stores in these folders
on windows: %appdata%/codeknobs
on mac: ~/Documents/codeKnobs
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Yes. codeknobs database stores in these folders
on windows: %appdata%/codeknobs
on mac: ~/Documents/codeKnobs
Thank you!
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Hi there,
this thread hasn´t been active quite a while... but I´d like to know if there will be Black Friday reductions tomorrow.
Thanks in advance!
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[Edit: except that I haven't received a license # or download link. Is there a delay?
No. Something goes wrong. Please email me to support@codeknobs.com
Hi Alexey,
I found the download link in my account on codeKnobs, but didn't receive an email with the license #. I sent you an email yesterday. Any issues?
Thomas
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[Edit: except that I haven't received a license # or download link. Is there a delay?
No. Something goes wrong. Please email me to support@codeknobs.com
Hi Alexey,
I found the download link in my account on codeKnobs, but didn't receive an email with the license #. I sent you an email yesterday. Any issues?
Thomas
Hi Thomas,
I answered on your emails twice. Please PM me if you still not received my emails.
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[Edit: except that I haven't received a license # or download link. Is there a delay?
No. Something goes wrong. Please email me to support@codeknobs.com
Hi Alexey,
I found the download link in my account on codeKnobs, but didn't receive an email with the license #. I sent you an email yesterday. Any issues?
Thomas
Hi Thomas,
I answered on your emails twice. Please PM me if you still not received my emails.
Hi Alexey,
PM helped!
Cheers,
Thomas
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This may have been mentioned elsewhere in this thread so apologies, but is it possible to load the Prophet 08 factory patches using the editor?
I currently have the VST and it works great for any other syx file. But loading these 08 patches doesn't seem to work at all - the import menu stays blank after selecting the file.
I've heard that they need to be converted to REV2 patches or something, so I'm wondering if that's the reason why. Supposedly the Soundtower editor is able to handle this but I'd rather not have to go that route as I much prefer this one.
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New version of editors released. Now they should natively works on apple silicon.
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Hi @Codeknobs,
I have a REV2 16 voice keyboard, it is connected to my DAW (Studio One Pro 5.3/Windows 10) via USB, does your VST REV2 editor allow me use it via USB ?
Does the current version of you REV2 editor allows me to edit the step-sequencer of the REV2 ?
Any specific editing operation that the current version of your editor does not support ?
Thanks,
Muziksculp
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Hi @Codeknobs,
I have a REV2 16 voice keyboard, it is connected to my DAW (Studio One Pro 5.3/Windows 10) via USB, does your VST REV2 editor allow me use it via USB ?
As long as you aren't using the usb connection twice. (1. Editor & 2. DAW) I have my Rev2 connected via USB as well as midi cables. The USB midi port is communicating with the editor exclusively. The 5 pin midi port handles all of the DAW needs. (notes, controllers, clock sync) The usb midi port is hidden in my DAW to keep it free for the editor.
Does the current version of you REV2 editor allows me to edit the step-sequencer of the REV2 ?
Yes. I've attached some images of the sequencer edit pages. The small rectangles (Gate Sequencer Pic) above the steps are the "rest" and "reset" commands.
Any specific editing operation that the current version of your editor does not support ?
Pretty sure it covers everything although I haven't updated to this latest version of the editor. Maybe CodeKnobs will pop in to elaborate.
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Hi @Codeknobs,
I have a REV2 16 voice keyboard, it is connected to my DAW (Studio One Pro 5.3/Windows 10) via USB, does your VST REV2 editor allow me use it via USB ?
As long as you aren't using the usb connection twice. (1. Editor & 2. DAW) I have my Rev2 connected via USB as well as midi cables. The USB midi port is communicating with the editor exclusively. The 5 pin midi port handles all of the DAW needs. (notes, controllers, clock sync) The usb midi port is hidden in my DAW to keep it free for the editor.
Does the current version of you REV2 editor allows me to edit the step-sequencer of the REV2 ?
Yes. I've attached some images of the sequencer edit pages. The small rectangles (Gate Sequencer Pic) above the steps are the "rest" and "reset" commands.
Any specific editing operation that the current version of your editor does not support ?
Pretty sure it covers everything although I haven't updated to this latest version of the editor. Maybe CodeKnobs will pop in to elaborate.
Hi @RobustAmerican,
Thanks for the helpful feedback.
I ended up purchasing the SoundTower Prophet REV2 VST Editor.
The SoundTower REV 2 Editor's instructions do not mention that I need to have two independent connections, one for the REV2 to DAW, and one for the Editor via Serial MIDI ports.
I will try using the SoundTower VST editor while my REV2 is connected via USB, and see if the editor works. Otherwise, I might have to do what you did, use the USB for the Editor, and connect the REV2 via Serial MIDI ports. I'm also curious if I could use Virtual Midi ports, i.e. LoopMidi ports for the Editor, and use the REV 2 USB for the DAW.
Cheers,
Muziksculp
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Hi!
I just noticed that the codeknobs editor does not seem to send any parameter changes anymore to my REV2 when used in Logic Pro and when I turn a physical knob on the synth.
I have set up both the REV2 and the editor software according to the setup instructions and disabled the Rev2 midi port in Logic and instead enabled the ProhetREV2Editor_AUX midi port.
If I turn a knob with the mouse in the software editor, for instance the cutoff, then the sound is altered in the synth, but if I turn the physical knob on the synth, then I can only see the knob turning in the editor, but the sound is not altered. So the editor does only seem to recieve parameter changes from the synth, but not send them out.
This has worked fine before, so it's strange it suddenly stopped working. Any suggestions what the problem might be?
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Hi!
I just noticed that the codeknobs editor does not seem to send any parameter changes anymore to my REV2 when used in Logic Pro and when I turn a physical knob on the synth.
I have set up both the REV2 and the editor software according to the setup instructions and disabled the Rev2 midi port in Logic and instead enabled the ProhetREV2Editor_AUX midi port.
If I turn a knob with the mouse in the software editor, for instance the cutoff, then the sound is altered in the synth, but if I turn the physical knob on the synth, then I can only see the knob turning in the editor, but the sound is not altered. So the editor does only seem to recieve parameter changes from the synth, but not send them out.
This has worked fine before, so it's strange it suddenly stopped working. Any suggestions what the problem might be?
Did you sort out this issue? if so, how'd you do it?
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I can't find where to enter the registration information? There's no link in the VST software. And no panel in the software I can find.
I'm sure I'm missing something really obvious!
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I can't find where to enter the registration information? There's no link in the VST software. And no panel in the software I can find.
I'm sure I'm missing something really obvious!
Okay, I had to uninstall the demo version first, then install full version. I didn't see instructions anywhere that said that.
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The Rev2 editor VST is going well, thanks.
I have a question. When I newly add the editor VST to my DAW session, the Rev2 synth goes to U1P1 and I lose the program I was working with. Can I change a setting in the VST so this doesn't happen?
The VST when newly added to a track in the DAW should adopt the program currently in the synth, not the other way around?
When I save the VST in a DAW project and reload the DAW project later, the synth receives the program that was saved to the VST. This is what I would expect and is a great feature. But when the VST is unsaved I don't think it should be sending programs to the synth without asking? This has tripped me up a few times.
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Not aware of a fix for this. Maybe someone else can chime in. However, this got me once as well. Fortunately the knobs on the HW were still in the positions I left them in so I was able to get back 95% of the sound I had before launching the DAW. Just had to redo the mod matrix stuff and the misc parameters and I was 99.9% there. I like to manually zero out everything on the synth before starting a new patch so it was pretty easy. So next time, hope there isn't one, you may be able to get the sound back if you haven't changed the knobs' positions.
Hope this helps!
The Rev2 editor VST is going well, thanks.
I have a question. When I newly add the editor VST to my DAW session, the Rev2 synth goes to U1P1 and I lose the program I was working with. Can I change a setting in the VST so this doesn't happen?
The VST when newly added to a track in the DAW should adopt the program currently in the synth, not the other way around?
When I save the VST in a DAW project and reload the DAW project later, the synth receives the program that was saved to the VST. This is what I would expect and is a great feature. But when the VST is unsaved I don't think it should be sending programs to the synth without asking? This has tripped me up a few times.
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I found in preferences under "General Settings" -> 'Keep Program on Start'
This keeps the program that is currently in the Rev2 hardware when the plugin is first added to the track. But when loading a saved DAW project it loads the saved program from the plugin into the Rev2.
This is good.
But the weird thing is, the program is saved in the plugin without reference to bank and program number. I guess because program locations might change between a DAW project being saved and loaded.
So even if I keep program on start, I still don't know the program number and bank number it is stored at. I guess this is just a different way of working and I should consider the program management to be happening in the plugin when using the plugin. But sometimes I like to save program variations in nearby bank slots, so this is a slight hiccup. I wonder what soundtower is like in this respect?
Not aware of a fix for this. Maybe someone else can chime in. However, this got me once as well. Fortunately the knobs on the HW were still in the positions I left them in so I was able to get back 95% of the sound I had before launching the DAW. Just had to redo the mod matrix stuff and the misc parameters and I was 99.9% there. I like to manually zero out everything on the synth before starting a new patch so it was pretty easy. So next time, hope there isn't one, you may be able to get the sound back if you haven't changed the knobs' positions.
Hope this helps!
The Rev2 editor VST is going well, thanks.
I have a question. When I newly add the editor VST to my DAW session, the Rev2 synth goes to U1P1 and I lose the program I was working with. Can I change a setting in the VST so this doesn't happen?
The VST when newly added to a track in the DAW should adopt the program currently in the synth, not the other way around?
When I save the VST in a DAW project and reload the DAW project later, the synth receives the program that was saved to the VST. This is what I would expect and is a great feature. But when the VST is unsaved I don't think it should be sending programs to the synth without asking? This has tripped me up a few times.
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Good find on the "Keep Program on Start" preference setting! I think I need to update Codeknobs. Sorry about that. I try to keep Bank U4 free for saving spontaneous patches. I back it up on a regular basis and I have gotten into the habit of saving to the hardware first for any patch that happens outside of the DAW. This has kept me free from experiencing this issue.
I use the stand alone SoundTower editor for the OB-6 so I can't comment on it's behavior when launching the DAW.
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Hey everyone!
This is my first post here on the forum, I've been browsing for a while (since I bought my synth) but have come across a question that I can't seem to find an answer to via searching. So I figured I would ask!
I have a Prophet Rev2 16-voice, and I just got the Codeknobs Rev2 Editor a couple weeks ago. I am loving it so far, particularly the editing capabilities of the gated sequencer on there. I am using Rev2 Editor as a VST in Ableton Suite 9. The problem I am having relates to sending MIDI data (piano roll) to my Rev2 and using the Rev2 Editor at the same time.
When using the Rev2 Editor, I have to disable my MIDI in/out in Ableton's settings for my interface (Motu M4). This leaves me unable to send note data to automate my Rev2, since the MIDI has to be disabled. Is there a way to have my external instrument in Ableton sending MIDI data to my Rev2, and have the Rev2 Editor open at the same time? Or am I always going to have to keep switching between the two by enabling/disabling my MIDI in/out for my interface?
This is really a simple problem, and I am sure there's a simple solution that I'm overlooking. Anyone have a solution to this?
Thank you!
EDIT: Well, it looks like I didn't do thorough enough research. The answer to my question is inside this very thread - seems I should try using loopMIDI software for virtual MIDI ports. I will give this a try!
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With MIO MIDI interfaces, you can route multiple ports to the same device, which allows a DAW and Editor to work simultaneously. In the vid, I show with Soundtower, but the same works with Codeknobs or other editor interfaces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqapYg5bgmU
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I seem to have found a problem with how the VST handles tempo changes in a Reaper session?
When the tempo change in a session goes to double speed, the VST plays notes at a fixed rate, which seems to be some kind of tempo beat limit.
And the notes build up, so after the session stops playing the VST (or the Synth) keeps playing the notes it received but at a fixed rate which is slower than those midi notes were sent.
Removing the VST and just sending midi direct to the Synth works fine.
Let me know if you want some more info. It's a bit difficult to use the VST in this situation. So i'm just going back to normal MIDI and have removed the Rev2 VST which is my workaround
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Anyone else have problems with tempo changes mid-way through a DAW session?
This is really messed up, not good.
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You don't need loopMIDI, just set the preferences in the VST: output port - Rev2, and put the midi notes you're sending to the Rev2 on the midi track with the Codeknobs VST. The VST sends the notes to the Rev2 via USB
Hey everyone!
This is my first post here on the forum, I've been browsing for a while (since I bought my synth) but have come across a question that I can't seem to find an answer to via searching. So I figured I would ask!
I have a Prophet Rev2 16-voice, and I just got the Codeknobs Rev2 Editor a couple weeks ago. I am loving it so far, particularly the editing capabilities of the gated sequencer on there. I am using Rev2 Editor as a VST in Ableton Suite 9. The problem I am having relates to sending MIDI data (piano roll) to my Rev2 and using the Rev2 Editor at the same time.
When using the Rev2 Editor, I have to disable my MIDI in/out in Ableton's settings for my interface (Motu M4). This leaves me unable to send note data to automate my Rev2, since the MIDI has to be disabled. Is there a way to have my external instrument in Ableton sending MIDI data to my Rev2, and have the Rev2 Editor open at the same time? Or am I always going to have to keep switching between the two by enabling/disabling my MIDI in/out for my interface?
This is really a simple problem, and I am sure there's a simple solution that I'm overlooking. Anyone have a solution to this?
Thank you!
EDIT: Well, it looks like I didn't do thorough enough research. The answer to my question is inside this very thread - seems I should try using loopMIDI software for virtual MIDI ports. I will give this a try!
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Okay so there seems to be no support for the Codeknobs editor even though I paid good money for it. And the multiple instances of VST in a DAW don't work (only one instance makes a sound, activating the other instance doesn't make that instance trigger the synth). So it's pretty useless for my needs and I need to ask for my money back.
I suggest to anyone else considering getting the Codeknobs vst, don't.
Just get the Soundtower application.
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Okay so there seems to be no support for the Codeknobs editor even though I paid good money for it. And the multiple instances of VST in a DAW don't work (only one instance makes a sound, activating the other instance doesn't make that instance trigger the synth). So it's pretty useless for my needs and I need to ask for my money back.
I suggest to anyone else considering getting the Codeknobs vst, don't.
Just get the Soundtower application.
I found both editors to be worth the purchase based on my own expectations. I wouldn't want two instances of a VST controlling a hardware synth because it would imply that switching between them would potentially overwrite (either manually or automatically) whatever patch changes were on the synth itself every time the plugin syncs with the synth, which would be frustrating. Unless in the case of the Rev2 it was somehow set up so that two instances total were supported that could connect to the synth in multi mode and treat each instance as a completely separate synth, which would be useful in some ways but I've never seen a multi timbral synth editor offer that.
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Okay so there seems to be no support for the Codeknobs editor even though I paid good money for it. And the multiple instances of VST in a DAW don't work (only one instance makes a sound, activating the other instance doesn't make that instance trigger the synth). So it's pretty useless for my needs and I need to ask for my money back.
I suggest to anyone else considering getting the Codeknobs vst, don't.
Just get the Soundtower application.
I found both editors to be worth the purchase based on my own expectations. I wouldn't want two instances of a VST controlling a hardware synth because it would imply that switching between them would potentially overwrite (either manually or automatically) whatever patch changes were on the synth itself every time the plugin syncs with the synth, which would be frustrating. Unless in the case of the Rev2 it was somehow set up so that two instances total were supported that could connect to the synth in multi mode and treat each instance as a completely separate synth, which would be useful in some ways but I've never seen a multi timbral synth editor offer that.
Well multiple instances is how the Codeknobs VST editor is designed and it's one of the reasons I bought it. But sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. The design is that when activating one instance the other one is deactivated. It's not two instances acting simultaneously.
And the VST doesn't save anything on the hardware synth unless you go into "program -> save to device".
Whenever a DAW project with a saved patch in the VST is opened it "opens" that patch in the hardware synth, but it's not saved to the hardware. It's just the current 'active' patch, only saved in the VST.
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Hi!
I just noticed that the codeknobs editor does not seem to send any parameter changes anymore to my REV2 when used in Logic Pro and when I turn a physical knob on the synth.
I have set up both the REV2 and the editor software according to the setup instructions and disabled the Rev2 midi port in Logic and instead enabled the ProhetREV2Editor_AUX midi port.
If I turn a knob with the mouse in the software editor, for instance the cutoff, then the sound is altered in the synth, but if I turn the physical knob on the synth, then I can only see the knob turning in the editor, but the sound is not altered. So the editor does only seem to recieve parameter changes from the synth, but not send them out.
This has worked fine before, so it's strange it suddenly stopped working. Any suggestions what the problem might be?
Did you sort out this issue? if so, how'd you do it?
Yes, it works again now. I think the solution was that I turned on "Local Control Support" in the preferences in the plugin editor.
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Hey all -- I've recently moved to Cubase 12 Pro and I went to get this VST + my Rev2 all setup and am bumping into all kinds of trouble. I want to be able to do the following:
Edit patches from the DAW
Record MIDI
Monitor audio output from the synth
Use the Synth as a midi controller for softsynths
How do I accomplish this? Is it necessary to get a midi interface to do this properly?
Currently I have the VST loaded and when I turn knobs on the physical synth, I see those changes occur in the VST. But I do not appear to have the ability to record midi or playback midi I pencil into the DAW.
For kicks I went over to Ableton and tried the aforementioned setup consisting of LoopMIDI, MIDI+USB in the synth. That allows me to record/playback midi while monitoring the audio while being able to make adjustments to the synth from the VST -- but if I pop over to another VST and try to use this synth as a midi controller it hoses everything on whatever patch I had up on the synth.
Is this even possible with this software? I'm beginning to think my ask is too much and am considering buying a separate keyboard to by my main midi controller and buy then the aforementioned MIDI interface (Mio X10). I've spent 2 days trying to iron this out with no luck in satisfying all my requirements. Any thoughts?
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Okay so there seems to be no support for the Codeknobs editor even though I paid good money for it. And the multiple instances of VST in a DAW don't work (only one instance makes a sound, activating the other instance doesn't make that instance trigger the synth). So it's pretty useless for my needs and I need to ask for my money back.
I suggest to anyone else considering getting the Codeknobs vst, don't.
Just get the Soundtower application.
Never got it to work on my set up. Focusrite Scarlett 18i20/Cubase 12. You're right: zero support. Fortunately I only got the trial version. Very disappointing.
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I emailed Alex about this but still haven't heard back--I'm having an issue where the program picker drop down doesn't change program in Live 11
Basically, when I tap on the dropdown menu from the programs page, instead of changing to that patch, it gets overwritten with whatever patch is currently loaded.
Can anyone help? I'm not sure how to attach images but I have screenshots as well.
In summary: what I want to do is browse / audition the different patches on my synth quickly. Is this a bug that the dropdown gets overwritten? And how do I correctly configure this dropdown to be useful instead of it getting overwritten?
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I emailed Alex about this but still haven't heard back--
Facebook page activity - last post was an RIP to Dave last year. Twitter page is gone.
Anyone heard from CodeKnobs in a while?
I'm demoing it and love it but now I'm sadly thinking Soundtower is the only option out there now?
On Mac M1
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I really am pissed about Codeknobs. I paid good money for the Synthet Editor but no support at all. Should have read this thread befor my purchase. No questions answered, no manual. Buy it and you will be left alone with what you bought... never experienced anything like this with any software purchase.
I emailed Alex about this but still haven't heard back--
Facebook page activity - last post was an RIP to Dave last year. Twitter page is gone.
Anyone heard from CodeKnobs in a while?
I'm demoing it and love it but now I'm sadly thinking Soundtower is the only option out there now?
On Mac M1
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Yeah I think we should be warning people not to buy the codeknobs editor at this stage.
I really am pissed about Codeknobs. I paid good money for the Synthet Editor but no support at all. Should have read this thread befor my purchase. No questions answered, no manual. Buy it and you will be left alone with what you bought... never experienced anything like this with any software purchase.
I emailed Alex about this but still haven't heard back--
Facebook page activity - last post was an RIP to Dave last year. Twitter page is gone.
Anyone heard from CodeKnobs in a while?
I'm demoing it and love it but now I'm sadly thinking Soundtower is the only option out there now?
On Mac M1
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New version 1.34 released!
Changes:
- Fixed crash on start in case if Documents folder syncked with iCloud.
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New version 1.34 released!
Changes:
- Fixed crash on start in case if Documents folder syncked with iCloud.
Yeah! 👍
I'd love to try it out - thank you!