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Title: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 02:54:42 PM
I just want to ask if DSI thinking about TEMPEST 2?

If yes, please do not forget to add the reverb effect to this machine. Okay?! :)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 16, 2017, 03:13:18 PM
I just want to ask if DSI thinking about TEMPEST 2?

If yes, please do not forget add the reverb effect to this machine. Okay?! :)

I think theres more chance of Linn releasing a Linndrum 2.0 than DSI doing another Tempest. You never know though i guess!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 03:21:17 PM
why not? DSI made Prophet rev2.. so i'm awaiting for the TEMPEST 2 and reverb is highly required.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 16, 2017, 03:23:28 PM
If Roger releases a drum machine i'm buying it blindly...
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 03:28:13 PM
me too! also i'm thinking about hybrid drum & synth machine with many effects on board.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 16, 2017, 03:32:20 PM
why not? DSI made Prophet rev2.. so i'm awaiting for the TEMPEST 2 and reverb is highly required.

No reason xD
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 03:36:39 PM
So hope in Linn  ::)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 16, 2017, 03:50:28 PM
So hope in Linn  ::)

I've started on the Eurorack route but, tbh, I think that I'll end up with some of my percussion coming from my Euro, there is just so many options to build things exactly as you want them with Euro, so you can just get those 909 hats, that 808 kick, that ms20 filter, you can adjust the groove and timing of the triggers a lot more as well than a normal drum machine, its expensive and convoluted but, when you get a really nice oscillator and a couple of envelopes and start to build your drums from the ground up I don't know why but they sound a lot better, maybe its because your choosing every aspect, so your oscillator you'll head for the sine (where as Tempest has Triangle) etc etc. Subconciously you'll gravitate towards modules that have things on them you deem useful, so if you use a lot of white noise you'll end up with a module that has white noise on it kind of thing.

I'd probably look at a Linndrum 2.0 as well but other than that or possibly a TR8 just for a goto 909/808 setup, oh or a simmond SDS V, i think i'm just going to buy modules for my Euro and make any drums i need from that. You can get some seriously amazing modules for Euro the Cwejman range are fucking insane my next module is going to be their BLD because the Tempest kick never really did that much for me personally its ok, but, who wants ok? We all want "fucking amazing"!!! The Tempest overall is "fucking amazing" but it does lack in one or two areas I think if you want to get right down to the nitty gritty. Kicks and 909 hats... haha
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 16, 2017, 04:04:33 PM
So hope in Linn  ::)

So what i'm saying is go make Tempest 2.0 ;)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 04:11:50 PM
Very nice but i see it like this (in the future):

I'm taking my TEMPEST 2, going to the mountains or other lonely places, wearing a headset and making the most beautiful music in the world. :))))

btw. Electron released new machines, so my expectations are justified. :P

Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
Line In is also highly required and flash memory for custom samples.  8)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 04:18:48 PM
Incidentally: I expect a monster inside a little (groove)box. ::)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 16, 2017, 04:23:05 PM
Very nice but i see it like this (in the future):

I'm taking my TEMPEST 2, going to the mountains or other lonely places, wearing a headset and making the most beautiful music in the world. :))))

btw. Electron released new machines, so my expectations are justified. :P

I've just got a picture in my head of your wife stood next to you calling you over and over but your not listening because you've got headphones one, LOL, be careful with those she might get mad!!!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 16, 2017, 04:23:59 PM
Line In is also highly required and flash memory for custom samples.  8)

We don't mention the "dream" anymore. lol. It would be sick awesome to be able to import my own samples into the T though i do agree and Line in too.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 04:26:45 PM
Very nice but i see it like this (in the future):

I'm taking my TEMPEST 2, going to the mountains or other lonely places, wearing a headset and making the most beautiful music in the world. :))))

btw. Electron released new machines, so my expectations are justified. :P

I've just got a picture in my head of your wife stood next to you calling you over and over but your not listening because you've got headphones one, LOL, be careful with those she might get mad!!!

My wife is used to it.. :D LOL :D
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: deepminddark on July 16, 2017, 04:29:17 PM
Line In is also highly required and flash memory for custom samples.  8)

We don't mention the "dream" anymore. lol. It would be sick awesome to be able to import my own samples into the T though i do agree and Line in too.

So I had a dream...
I want it to be real..
Tempest 2.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: bozo on July 17, 2017, 02:58:17 AM
If Roger releases a drum machine i'm buying it blindly...
Linn YES,
as for a t2 never.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 17, 2017, 08:28:18 AM
I think DSI sort of has a bad taste left in their mouth from the reactions from the Tempest. Too many people are complaining about what the Tempest is not as opposed to embracing what it is.

I would like to see Roger do a Linn Drum 2 but I'm not sure what he could offer to make a new digital drum machine stand out.

I know he mentioned he was combining elements of the Linnstrument, Tempest and Adrenalinn pedal into it...but I'm not sure how that would work.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: particlesintowaves on July 17, 2017, 09:02:33 AM
I love my Tempest with every breath but even I'll admit there's a few things I wish it could do. Some of those things are super basic, like sending its drum sequences out over MIDI. The Tempest really could be an "all in one" machine, in fact I still manage to use it that way relatively easily, but a few extra bells and whistles would make a lot of the gear in my studio obsolete.

Also, it needs more than one filter LOL
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LucidSFX on July 17, 2017, 03:28:08 PM
I think a drum machine is redundant. The T alteady proved itself as a poly and I think workstation/sequencer is the next wave of hardware. Plus synthesis architecture which allows designing cymbals. More processing power as a v2 could be reality but am not sure it is worth it unless thry totally redesigned the sequencer and midi capability. But een with that....I'd want something revolutionary. The T already is a workhorse.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: AdamXAudio on July 17, 2017, 08:31:46 PM
Based on Roger Linn's comments of "On balance, if you look at the totality of things Tempest can do and its vast internal complexity, I think it’s pretty amazing and may never be equalled. I certainly couldn’t have made Tempest on my own and appreciate that Dave was willing to devote so many of his resources to this collaboration of ideas." I think it's pretty unlikely there's a Tempest 2 in development.  Sounds like it was a one-off collaboration, but you never know of course.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: particlesintowaves on July 17, 2017, 08:49:08 PM
Based on Roger Linn's comments of "On balance, if you look at the totality of things Tempest can do and its vast internal complexity, I think it’s pretty amazing and may never be equalled. I certainly couldn’t have made Tempest on my own and appreciate that Dave was willing to devote so many of his resources to this collaboration of ideas." I think it's pretty unlikely there's a Tempest 2 in development.  Sounds like it was a one-off collaboration, but you never know of course.

I think DSI have learned a lot in the last 6 years so I hope that makes them more capable of delivering an even better instrument, even if on their own.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: rplom on July 17, 2017, 11:34:42 PM
I just want to ask if DSI thinking about TEMPEST 2?

If yes, please do not forget to add the reverb effect to this machine. Okay?! :)

You know the Tempest is pretty much perfect (though I'd like more memory and a way to manage files via USB like a drive.

What I want from these brilliant mean is a small battery powered version. 
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: muleskinner on July 18, 2017, 01:31:55 AM
The T already proved itself as a poly and I think workstation/sequencer is the next wave of hardware.

I agree. For me a good hardware (CV/MIDI) sequencer partnered with sound modules that have a rock solid MIDI and/or CV implementation is the way forward. I may have found that sequencer in the Deluge but it still has a lot of 'version one' type quirks that need ironing out. Firmware updates have been coming fast though.

I suspect I will still be using the Tempest for a very long time, it's still the first synth I turn to in many situations, but I'd have a hard time trusting DSI with anything that required ongoing firmware development. I just don't think 'The Dave' gets it yet.
 

Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 18, 2017, 03:07:32 AM
We could see sort of a throwback to SCI Programmers of the 80s but so many companies already do this (Engine, Carbon etc) that I'm not sure what DSI could offer that could be different. Even their collaboration with Pioneer the SP-16 and the new MPCs are essentially that.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 18, 2017, 04:00:25 AM
For me the revolution is a "one box to rule them all" machine...For now i have 2 machines that do exactly this..Tempest+MPC Live combo!One a mighty drum/synth machine and the other a mighty sampler/sequencer machine...IMHO a hybrid machine that takes the best of both will destroy any competition out there and really i don't mind paying extra to have it ;) I'm sure both Elektron and DSI can do it..Elektron has the available tech already there with AR+Octatrack and DSI can do another colab with Pioneer (that has the sampling experience) to achieve it...Or maybe an AKAI+DSI Colab? :P
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 18, 2017, 04:16:32 AM
For me the revolution is a "one box to rule them all" machine...For now i have 2 machines that do exactly this..Tempest+MPC Live combo!One a mighty drum/synth machine and the other a mighty sampler/sequencer machine...IMHO a hybrid machine that takes the best of both will destroy any competition out there and really i don't mind paying extra to have it ;) I'm sure both Elektron and DSI can do it..Elektron has the available tech already there with AR+Octatrack and DSI can do another colab with Pioneer (that has the sampling experience) to achieve it...Or maybe an AKAI+DSI Colab? :P

I'd actually like to see a DSI/Pioneer sampler Keyboard with an on board sequencer and DSI analog filters. Think the Korg Microsampler's instantaneous sampling capability with the SP-16s sequencing and include some old Prophet 2000 samples in there. Sort of like a modern day Emulator.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: muleskinner on July 18, 2017, 04:31:51 AM
For me the revolution is a "one box to rule them all" machine...

I think this is pretty much impossible though as everyone's requirements are so different.

I had a Maschine Studio for a while. It was cool, but I thought it really suffered from a lack of focus. Some people wanted it to be a standalone DAW, some a kickass sampler, others a great sequencer, etc etc. The end result was something of a 'jack of all trades, master of none'. Now I think it's better to have gear that's very good at doing specific things rather than stuff that tries to do everything and, unavoidably, end up disappointing in some respect. Geist2 + cheap AKAI pad controller is much better as a hybrid MPC-esque sampler than Maschine.

Then again, I don't play this stuff live so carting a shitload of gear around isn't a problem for me.

Tempest excels at being a drum and general-purpose synth IMO - and it's not a bad sequencer as long as you don't want to control anything else with it.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 18, 2017, 04:45:48 AM
Come on people don't limit the boundaries...Tempest is an example of a simple,fun & playable/hands on machine that if it had also the sampling capability and more RAM/CPU+MIDI implementation specs would be that machine i'm talking about...Or imagine MPC Live sampler to have a Analog Poly Rev2 style 16 voice synth inside!Or simply take the Rev2 16 voices,put the AKAI 64 voices sampler inside,FX per voice,backlit AKAI style pads,SSD expansion+real-time streaming from it and price it at 3000-3500$ to destroy them all..Ah and make the classic 2 versions (Keyboard/Desktop) ...Come on Dave!Basically i would sell all my gear after that...The tech is already there someone has to built it!!!
P.S
Don't forget the software editor like AKAI's MPC 2.0 Software
For me the revolution is a "one box to rule them all" machine...

I think this is pretty much impossible though as everyone's requirements are so different.

I had a Maschine Studio for a while. It was cool, but I thought it really suffered from a lack of focus. Some people wanted it to be a standalone DAW, some a kickass sampler, others a great sequencer, etc etc. The end result was something of a 'jack of all trades, master of none'. Now I think it's better to have gear that's very good at doing specific things rather than stuff that tries to do everything and, unavoidably, end up disappointing in some respect. Geist2 + cheap AKAI pad controller is much better as a hybrid MPC-esque sampler than Maschine.

Then again, I don't play this stuff live so carting a shitload of gear around isn't a problem for me.

Tempest excels at being a drum and general-purpose synth IMO - and it's not a bad sequencer as long as you don't want to control anything else with it.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: AdamXAudio on July 18, 2017, 05:26:15 AM
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong I'd love if there was actually a Tempest 2.  While the Tempest is full featured there are some changes that could be made to the sequencer to improve workflow, 2 more voices can be added, saturation (not feedback) available per sound, user samples, delay/reverb sends, etc.  Sky's the limit, but keeping it at a somewhat affordable price where the company makes money back is always the tricky thing.

Come on people don't limit the boundaries...Tempest is an example of a simple,fun & playable/hands on machine that if it had also the sampling capability and more RAM/CPU+MIDI implementation specs would be that machine i'm talking about...Or imagine MPC Live sampler to have a Analog Poly Rev2 style 16 voice synth inside!Or simply take the Rev2 16 voices,put the AKAI 64 voices sampler inside,FX per voice,backlit AKAI style pads and price it at 3000-3500$ to destroy them all..Ah and make the classic 2 versions (Keyboard/Desktop) ...Come on Dave!Basically i would sell all my gear after that...Simply Heavenly!!!
P.S
Don't forget the software editor like AKAI's MPC 2.0 Software
For me the revolution is a "one box to rule them all" machine...

I think this is pretty much impossible though as everyone's requirements are so different.

I had a Maschine Studio for a while. It was cool, but I thought it really suffered from a lack of focus. Some people wanted it to be a standalone DAW, some a kickass sampler, others a great sequencer, etc etc. The end result was something of a 'jack of all trades, master of none'. Now I think it's better to have gear that's very good at doing specific things rather than stuff that tries to do everything and, unavoidably, end up disappointing in some respect. Geist2 + cheap AKAI pad controller is much better as a hybrid MPC-esque sampler than Maschine.

Then again, I don't play this stuff live so carting a shitload of gear around isn't a problem for me.

Tempest excels at being a drum and general-purpose synth IMO - and it's not a bad sequencer as long as you don't want to control anything else with it.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 18, 2017, 06:33:08 AM
While you guys dream of the perfect synth I'll be over here building my own in eurocrackland haha
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 18, 2017, 06:50:49 AM
The biggest issue I have with the Tempest is not being able to have the sequence midi out to more than one mono synth. I really wanted to use it to control 2 ARP or SEM modules. There must be a way to do this.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 18, 2017, 07:26:50 AM
The biggest issue I have with the Tempest is not being able to have the sequence midi out to more than one mono synth. I really wanted to use it to control 2 ARP or SEM modules. There must be a way to do this.

I guess with Abelton you can run the one sequence into the DAW and then back out to the ARP/SEM whatever. There might be some lag but it should be possible.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 18, 2017, 12:22:47 PM
Only for studio use nah!
While you guys dream of the perfect synth I'll be over here building my own in eurocrackland haha
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 18, 2017, 01:30:39 PM
Only for studio use nah!
While you guys dream of the perfect synth I'll be over here building my own in eurocrackland haha

Quite a few people take euro on a the road checkout a kickstarter called Nono modular space cases the portable modular scene is definitely getting traction!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 18, 2017, 02:05:33 PM
Ye i know about the cases Chris Randall used a wonderful case with his Euroracks at a presentation...But to achieve this kind of power with Cases you need a very big case!
Only for studio use nah!
While you guys dream of the perfect synth I'll be over here building my own in eurocrackland haha

Quite a few people take euro on a the road checkout a kickstarter called Nono modular space cases the portable modular scene is definitely getting traction!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LucidSFX on July 18, 2017, 02:12:11 PM
The answer to yhe question at hand is yes. A Tempest 2 is possible. However not probable;)

Let's get a final firmware for the Tempest 1 first!! LOL
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: particlesintowaves on July 18, 2017, 02:42:20 PM
I tried to go the modular route for drums but I found that the workflow was incredibly tedious for my liking. You can definitely get a huge variety of sounds from it that aren't available on the Tempest, but I wasn't really making anything I liked more than what I do with my Tempest.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 19, 2017, 02:54:17 AM
The biggest issue I have with the Tempest is not being able to have the sequence midi out to more than one mono synth. I really wanted to use it to control 2 ARP or SEM modules. There must be a way to do this.

I guess with Abelton you can run the one sequence into the DAW and then back out to the ARP/SEM whatever. There might be some lag but it should be possible.

Yeah I wanted to stay away from any software...oh well looks like it's a separate sequencer for me.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 19, 2017, 04:00:37 AM
Ye i know about the cases Chris Randall used a wonderful case with his Euroracks at a presentation...But to achieve this kind of power with Cases you need a very big case!
Only for studio use nah!
While you guys dream of the perfect synth I'll be over here building my own in eurocrackland haha

Quite a few people take euro on a the road checkout a kickstarter called Nono modular space cases the portable modular scene is definitely getting traction!

Yeah thats true, a good polysynth is never really going to be in modular form (although there will be exceptions im sure), at the moment i have a 6u not even full system and to be honest the range of sounds i can get from it is insane but what is also insane is the quality! I think that because the people who make the modules are like super focused on one small part of what consists of a synth that they make that one part of the whole much better quality than the synths that come together already like normal synths.

So the VCA on my modular is super awesome, gives you some really really nice saturation does a load of other things the VCA in the Tempest for instance never will (like 6db boost and there are 4 of them so a +24db boost if you like). The filter i chose has a symettry mode which from what i can gather uses posistive and negative signals at the same time (so think the resonance q then also cuts some as well as boosts i think), my Oscillator does a shitload of crazy ass stuff (DPO) and they are all amazing on their own so when you sound design on it you get some amazing results i have to admit!

It can be convoluted but, some say the exact same thing about the Tempest right, its the end result that matters. Its also expensive and addictive! One other benefit though is it forces you to understand sounds in a much deeper and more meaningful way. Its not for everyone i'm sure, but if you have not tried it, i emplore you to make a small 6u system and try it out!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: muleskinner on July 19, 2017, 05:25:59 AM
It can be convoluted but, some say the exact same thing about the Tempest right, its the end result that matters. Its also expensive and addictive! One other benefit though is it forces you to understand sounds in a much deeper and more meaningful way. Its not for everyone i'm sure, but if you have not tried it, i emplore you to make a small 6u system and try it out!

I'm gonna start on mine soon  ;) need to build me a case first, gonna get one of those Doepfer kits.

I have a Mother-32, Sherman Filterbank, Waldorf 2-Pole so kind of semi-modular gear. First module I'm getting will be MakeNoise Maths, probably followed by their DPO. I like the look of that Korgasmatron filter!

What are you using for VCA?
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 19, 2017, 05:50:13 AM
I know..i know my friend...Modular world is unbelievable and i've experienced it in my friend's studio with many cases,modules & DIY stuff..As you said expensive but worth it!Hope one day i'll jump to it ;)
Ye i know about the cases Chris Randall used a wonderful case with his Euroracks at a presentation...But to achieve this kind of power with Cases you need a very big case!
Only for studio use nah!
While you guys dream of the perfect synth I'll be over here building my own in eurocrackland haha

Quite a few people take euro on a the road checkout a kickstarter called Nono modular space cases the portable modular scene is definitely getting traction!

Yeah thats true, a good polysynth is never really going to be in modular form (although there will be exceptions im sure), at the moment i have a 6u not even full system and to be honest the range of sounds i can get from it is insane but what is also insane is the quality! I think that because the people who make the modules are like super focused on one small part of what consists of a synth that they make that one part of the whole much better quality than the synths that come together already like normal synths.

So the VCA on my modular is super awesome, gives you some really really nice saturation does a load of other things the VCA in the Tempest for instance never will (like 6db boost and there are 4 of them so a +24db boost if you like). The filter i chose has a symettry mode which from what i can gather uses posistive and negative signals at the same time (so think the resonance q then also cuts some as well as boosts i think), my Oscillator does a shitload of crazy ass stuff (DPO) and they are all amazing on their own so when you sound design on it you get some amazing results i have to admit!

It can be convoluted but, some say the exact same thing about the Tempest right, its the end result that matters. Its also expensive and addictive! One other benefit though is it forces you to understand sounds in a much deeper and more meaningful way. Its not for everyone i'm sure, but if you have not tried it, i emplore you to make a small 6u system and try it out!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LucidSFX on July 19, 2017, 08:13:00 AM
Yorgos dont drink the kool-aid. You know the Mod world is insane. They hook you with kool words like "db boost" and "symmetry". This stuff is like crack. There is a movement for Anti-DIY. They put together a Documentary on these poor synth heads who end up tangled in wires not even aware of Life in general. These DIYers start off all full of enthusiasm. Next thing you know they are found eating stale cereal with old goat milk.

The World Health Organisation has posted a global notice on "The Dangers of Exploring The Mod Creative (DMC). Unfortunately a group of illiterates mistook the acronym as a DJ competition. Impressing eachother with scratching (not themselves but "records.") This "group" now has rooted itself in every corner of the world. Unfortunately WHO's notice went sadly...unnoticed but it did help revitalise the 1200's back into the mainstay at ridiculous prices.

Left unchecked, some modular DIYers fell deeply into their "craft" isloated from society and now start to consider how to incorporate organic synthesis by modifying body parts. The problem being, how does one's left toe resonate at the lowest biological fundimental frequency? Apparently one unsuspecting chap is rumoured to have achieved this. However at the Eureka moment of discovery he had unfortunately jammed his left toe on his desk, spilling his stale cereal over his equipment, electrified his toe and had a massive coronary attack. He was found by his landlord 8 months later on the floor tangled in wires with a burnt toe. He would have been found earlier however as we now know those who ignore the DMC generally dont have time for friends since they spend every waking hour in search of the Penultimate Auditory Chanel (PAC).

Interestingly enough a few years back some geeky nerds that immerse themselves in computerized fantasy (aka "gamers") mistook this for the resurgance of PAC Man which now holds annual championship tournaments.

So, the world is still in dark unable to properly organise any kind of support for the DIY Modders since they are now found celebrating the DJ's and Gamers. I now personally try to circumvent this movement of Mod and anything Euro, though I do like the odd DMC battle and little flashy dots.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Yorgos Arabatzis on July 19, 2017, 08:55:12 AM
Enlightening ^ ⚡️
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 19, 2017, 10:00:22 AM
Actually I'm not allowed any milk as I'm Lactose intolerent since getting my Euro lol!!!

@Muleskinner I'm using Intellijel Quad VCA its really good, a little more than the Mutable Veils but the +6db on each channel gives such a nice distortion especially when you chain two channels together!

https://soundcloud.com/robert-tree-hardy/quad-vca-distortion

before adding the distortion from from the Intellijel Quad it sounds like

https://soundcloud.com/robert-tree-hardy/quad-vca-pre-distortion

Also I have the DPO as my main oscillator I am really really impressed with it. Right now I mostly use its Sine wave out then add some of the final output for a little top end craziness, the sine on the DPO run into the QUAD VCA adding some distortion + Cwejman MMf-6 makes for some of the nicest house style bass i've ever heard, its fat full deep and powerful!!! I also have a Make Noise maths its super super useful and worth having as one of your first modules its just like a toolbox of usefulness.

My current rack is

Intellijel Quad VCA
Intellijel Metropolis
Make Noise DPO
Make Noise Maths
Cwejman MMF-6 VCF
Blue Lantern Asteroid Operator VCF

Although I need some modulation source as Maths gets used as envelopes a lot so I'm selling the BL VCF and going to get an Abstract Data Octocontroller. Also i have my name down for a Cwejman BLD which should be coming soon (can't wait!). I need to get some Doepfer in my system too as they make a lot of bread and butter modules i'm missing.

I'm sure you'll get into Euro eventually Yorgos you know its inevitable xD

If anyone needs any starter up advice i'd be happy to answer any questions if I can!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Stoss on July 19, 2017, 12:09:37 PM
The way Roger Linn thinks about drum machines and performance oriented instruments is the reason I love the Tempest.

Let's pair Roger up with Rohan at Synthstrom Audible and see what magic can be made!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: dslsynth on July 19, 2017, 12:34:28 PM
Let's pair Roger up with Rohan at Synthstrom Audible and see what magic can be made!

Or Dave Rossum as he knows quite something about sampling! ;)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 19, 2017, 12:50:36 PM
Let's pair Roger up with Rohan at Synthstrom Audible and see what magic can be made!

Or Dave Rossum as he knows quite something about sampling! ;)

Now thats something I would like to see Damn "The Rosslinn" jeez that would be sweeeeet!!!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: dslsynth on July 19, 2017, 02:37:06 PM
Now thats something I would like to see Damn "The Rosslinn" jeez that would be sweeeeet!!!

I would love to see the same type of voice architecture with digital voices emulating the analog voices approach as the original Boomchik and LinnDrum II designs had. Guess you already know Roger Linn's page on Shelved Product Ideas (http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/shelved-products.html).

And of cause I will hope that the OS implementation efforts made on Tempest can make a good starting point for a next generation drum machine.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 19, 2017, 04:35:59 PM
Now thats something I would like to see Damn "The Rosslinn" jeez that would be sweeeeet!!!

I would love to see the same type of voice architecture with digital voices emulating the analog voices approach as the original Boomchik and LinnDrum II designs had. Guess you already know Roger Linn's page on Shelved Product Ideas (http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/shelved-products.html).

And of cause I will hope that the OS implementation efforts made on Tempest can make a good starting point for a next generation drum machine.

I don't know if i should mention, but, the rumour mill did grind my way not too long ago that a Linndrum 2.0, might, and this is rumourmill, might, be in design xD Don't akks me I won't say ;)

(there is still a chance is all i'm saying)
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: dslsynth on July 20, 2017, 05:53:32 AM
I don't know if i should mention, but, the rumour mill did grind my way not too long ago that a Linndrum 2.0, might, and this is rumourmill, might, be in design xD Don't akks me I won't say ;)

Well, that would be lovely as DSI are much sharper on Sharc DSPs than a few years ago, flash ram is much cheaper and other supporting processors are much more capable too. Will wait and see what happens. New voice architecture will be the first thing I would look at when/if such a machine is released. Interesting times!

PS: I understand that this could very well be N'th person rumor. If a company told me they were working on a new product then I am very good at keeping my mouth shut until its announced.

. o O ( moral rant of the week )
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: RobH on July 20, 2017, 02:37:09 PM
I don't know if i should mention, but, the rumour mill did grind my way not too long ago that a Linndrum 2.0, might, and this is rumourmill, might, be in design xD Don't akks me I won't say ;)

Well, that would be lovely as DSI are much sharper on Sharc DSPs than a few years ago, flash ram is much cheaper and other supporting processors are much more capable too. Will wait and see what happens. New voice architecture will be the first thing I would look at when/if such a machine is released. Interesting times!

PS: I understand that this could very well be N'th person rumor. If a company told me they were working on a new product then I am very good at keeping my mouth shut until its announced.

. o O ( moral rant of the week )

The rumour is and was a rumour. No company told me anything I just got the impression the Linndrum 2.0 picture on Linns website that there is still a possibility, the pic is there for all to see, it was just a windup xD

Sorry
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: MasterVe on July 24, 2017, 12:37:08 PM
Dave smith And roger linn.  Almost made the tempest perfect just not enough memory so if there is a new tempest 2 coming.  can I Please get least  1 gb memory and more than one midi track Please
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 25, 2017, 03:35:48 AM
Dave smith And roger linn.  Almost made the tempest perfect just not enough memory so if there is a new tempest 2 coming.  can I Please get least  1 gb memory and more than one midi track Please

or at least save the sequences/projects down to flash cards.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LucidSFX on July 25, 2017, 07:32:08 AM
Who wants a deck of flash cards? It needs an LPT Printer port to print out the beat score.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LoboLives on July 27, 2017, 10:04:15 AM
Who wants a deck of flash cards? It needs an LPT Printer port to print out the beat score.

I still use tape,CDs and SD cards. It's good to have a hard copy in case of a computer crash.
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: LucidSFX on July 27, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
Just playing man:) I agree. I find the cloud easier to deal with these things...not so good in a live performance though!
Title: Re: TEMPEST 2 - is it possible?
Post by: Sternenlicht on September 07, 2017, 05:13:27 AM
I have a RYTM + Octatrack combo and the Tempest. Everything has it strength, i play more with the Tempest because it sounds better to my ears. The RYTM is a bit stronger in the bass department, and the sequencer probability trigs is really cool.

What i think a welcome addition on a drum computer would be fades to control the volume.

Tempest 2 wishlist:

FX, (better saturation) delay, reverb, stutter fx.
Sample import via USB disk drive.
Midi probability triggers like on electron, polyphonic external sequencing. (The new faders would also work as velocity faders ?)
Internal resampling. Two/Four tracks to play the re sampled files.
More filter type´s, different flavours.
Especially cool if it would have insert FX not just send FX.
8 Voices + 2-4 sample track (with analogue filters.)
Faders for volume of each track.

Waldorf did something like digital osc, analog filter and then resampled it for digital FX, i believe that is a good idea.

Wavetable synth engine + morphing on one track would also be cool with user waveshapes.

Essentially the Interface from the Tempest, added with some faders for volume control + a small sample section on a extra screen for file access /browsing.