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Title: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: eXode on April 04, 2017, 12:41:08 PM
Sonic State have a sneak peak of the new Waldorf Quantum eight voice hybrid synthesizer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phi8zPZcWtw
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: DavidDever on April 04, 2017, 01:44:40 PM
I just sold both of my yellow Qs, such serendipitous timing! :D
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: dslsynth on April 04, 2017, 02:55:20 PM
Its definitely an interesting voice architecture with lovely complex digital oscillators and dual filters. Unlike the Evolver the tuned feedback seems be an oscillator mode here (right?). Another great idea is the USB master port so that modern controllers can be connected directly to the instrument. Hope MPE will be supported! Yet another synthesizer with touch screen. Like that design direction. Alex Hartmann did the front panel design.

Overall impression? Definitely a step in the right direction!

Next thought: Hope a certain synthesizer manufacturer will take up the challenge to make a interesting new hybrid voice architecture.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on April 04, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
Its definitely an interesting voice architecture with lovely complex digital oscillators and dual filters. Unlike the Evolver the tuned feedback seems be an oscillator mode here (right?). Another great idea is the USB master port so that modern controllers can be connected directly to the instrument. Hope MPE will be supported! Yet another synthesizer with touch screen. Like that design direction. Alex Hartmann did the front panel design.

Overall impression? Definitely a step in the right direction!

Next thought: Hope a certain synthesizer manufacturer will take up the challenge to make a interesting new hybrid voice architecture.

I'd love to see a Bitimbral Prophet VS upgrade with Prophet 2000 samples included.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on April 05, 2017, 06:49:55 AM
Its definitely an interesting voice architecture with lovely complex digital oscillators and dual filters. Unlike the Evolver the tuned feedback seems be an oscillator mode here (right?). Another great idea is the USB master port so that modern controllers can be connected directly to the instrument. Hope MPE will be supported! Yet another synthesizer with touch screen. Like that design direction. Alex Hartmann did the front panel design.

Overall impression? Definitely a step in the right direction!

Next thought: Hope a certain synthesizer manufacturer will take up the challenge to make a interesting new hybrid voice architecture.

I'd love to see a Bitimbral Prophet VS upgrade with Prophet 2000 samples included.

Err Multi-Timbral I mean
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on April 05, 2017, 06:54:24 AM
As far as the Quantum itself. It's interesting. I would say I personally am a bit more sold on the John Bowen Solaris as far as this type of sound structure.

As far as being a hybrid...honestly...I think the JDXA is a bit more enjoyable because of it's sequencer and while it may not be as easy to program it offers a bit more of a winder sonic pallet with the Supernatural Digital Samples/Sounds. To my ears the Quantum just sounds like a Blofeld.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: tumble2k on April 05, 2017, 12:20:23 PM
This is a synth that can compete with the Prophet 12 I think. I like the filter possibilities of the unit. The formant filter would be super useful, and did I hear in the video there was a filter that could emulate a resonant cavity?
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: tomheck on April 05, 2017, 03:57:52 PM
The only thing that could save me from buying an instrument like this is that a manufacturer takes us the same thing as a high end hybrid sampler...
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on April 05, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
Renderings are online:

(http://www.waldorf-music.info/media/rokgallery/9/9823bcc9-27c6-4ce2-cb4f-a750b3697e15/094443cb-bea1-4e96-b8ab-d4ecdb20e908.jpg)

(http://www.waldorf-music.info/media/rokgallery/a/a58bca10-2fe0-4f9d-eb8a-0de5232300bf/d8c7483b-8a86-4807-c2b7-c64466c64e3a.jpg)
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sacred Synthesis on April 05, 2017, 04:47:19 PM
I like the order and the size.  Lots of room for the hands and the mind.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: DavidDever on April 05, 2017, 04:56:27 PM
(https://image.jimcdn.com/app/cms/image/transf/none/path/s0b0b6a0d5f2da2a6/image/ie953dd3f3c0ea458/version/1467710506/image.jpg)

It certainly takes a few design cues from the 20 unit, for sure.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on April 06, 2017, 02:18:03 AM
More actual images:

(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/1747892.jpg)

(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/1747897.jpg)

(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/1747895.jpg)

(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/1747894.jpg)

(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/1747898.jpg)

Looks good so far:
- 4 different synth engines (wavetable synthesis based on Nave, including its speech synthesizer, VA, granular sampling, and a resonant filter bank as it is known from physical modeling, although the latter is not the goal of the designers - at least not in terms of emulating strings, etc).
- 6 LFOs and 6 envelopes
- color-coded LEDs indicate modulation and signal routings
- TP-8 Fatar keyboard
- freely assignable voices for bi-timbral mode (4-4, 3-5, 2-6, 1-7 and vice versa)

What has yet to be seen is how far the sampling option goes, i.e. whether the Quantum could also technically be used as a traditional sampler.

Rolf Wöhrmann indicated that after reading through the forums he might now think about implementing more timbrality, maybe 4 times, maybe even with the according physical outputs. But he has to look into that. Interestingly, the "Digital Former" section seems to be very much inspired by the Character Section of the Prophet 12 and Pro 2. At least, it's supposed to do pretty much the same, just after the filters this time.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Razmo on April 06, 2017, 03:12:36 AM
Somehow my subconciousness knew something in this direction would come from Waldorf at some time... some kind of modern hardware Microwave III... but this is just perfect for my usage! ... It will make both my Blofeld and MWII obsolete in my studio, it will give me the 5 octaves FATAR keybed I have been wanting for some time, it'll give me modern wavetablesynthesis, and even sampling capabilities which I have been waiting for from DSI for a long time... and then top that of with eight dual analog filters, nice SD card storage etc...

I have started saving up... this is my number one priority now... as simple as that! :)
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on April 06, 2017, 03:19:37 AM
It would have been nice to include an on board sequencer...something I felt the Blofeld could have used. It also would have been nice to have linear FM synthesis as well. I honestly would rather that than a VA engine cause VA at this price point is silly when you could get real analog synthesis (VCO or DCO) for the same amount.

If included this could be sort of a modern Synclavier (in terms of sound quality).
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: DavidDever on April 06, 2017, 06:16:41 AM
Somehow my subconciousness knew something in this direction would come from Waldorf at some time... some kind of modern hardware Microwave III... but this is just perfect for my usage! ... It will make both my Blofeld and MWII obsolete in my studio, it will give me the 5 octaves FATAR keybed I have been wanting for some time, it'll give me modern wavetablesynthesis, and even sampling capabilities which I have been waiting for from DSI for a long time... and then top that of with eight dual analog filters, nice SD card storage etc...

I have started saving up... this is my number one priority now... as simple as that! :)

If it is in fact a FATAR TP/8SK (with weighted keys and the characteristic dogleg shape), as has been alluded to in other forums, then it would definitely be an excellent master controller (if you end up bothering to shift your focus to something else while using it).

I'm really fortunate that I dodged a bullet by selling my (two) Q keyboards last month–otherwise, it'd be an uphill battle to compete with something like this, even at a reduced price. I had my eyes on a Q+ at one point, but this basically closes that door and opens a much larger one.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: tumble2k on April 06, 2017, 12:46:24 PM
The multitimbrality comments by the designer intrigue me. Just a general question to the electrical engineers out there: Why are there no analog dynamically assigned multitimbral keyboards out there? With 12 voices and dynamic assignment you could do some serious electronica and some small orchestral classical pieces.

I suppose one issue is that you'd probably want an output per timbre, which would mean you'd have to have a dynamic analog crossbar switch. Otherwise you'd need to apply effects on the synthesizer and pipe all of it through stereo outputs.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: dslsynth on April 06, 2017, 01:17:21 PM
The multitimbrality comments by the designer intrigue me. Just a general question to the electrical engineers out there: Why are there no analog dynamically assigned multitimbral keyboards out there?

Well, there is at least one software engineer in here going Very Interesting Problem (TM) on making such a piece of voice management software for an analog/hybrid synthesizer. As with any development project there be plenty of dragons just waiting to attack at most inconvenient time. But it would surely be cool if it was a standard feature.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: DavidDever on April 06, 2017, 01:30:20 PM
The multitimbrality comments by the designer intrigue me. Just a general question to the electrical engineers out there: Why are there no analog dynamically assigned multitimbral keyboards out there? With 12 voices and dynamic assignment you could do some serious electronica and some small orchestral classical pieces.

I suppose one issue is that you'd probably want an output per timbre, which would mean you'd have to have a dynamic analog crossbar switch. Otherwise you'd need to apply effects on the synthesizer and pipe all of it through stereo outputs.

That crossbar could get noisy, if not properly implemented, for what is effectively small gain compared to "minus" assignment (programmatically removed from stereo mix outs, a la the Tempest).
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on April 11, 2017, 04:43:42 PM
I have started saving up... this is my number one priority now... as simple as that! :)


You and me both.  Very impressive bit of gear.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: BobTheDog on April 12, 2017, 05:00:55 AM
It does look nice.

After buying a Blofeld I decided never to give them any more of my money but maybe it is time to bury the hatch!
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Razmo on April 13, 2017, 06:31:40 AM
I must admit that if it is a weighted action keybed, it put me off a bit... I'm NOT a piano player, and this is a SYNTH, not a piano... I find synth action to Semi Weighted keys easier to play fast contrary to weighted keys... but other than that, I have nothing to complain about yet... will just have to wait and see what Waldorf does with this thing... it may even end up being vaporware, we've seen it happen before, though the prototype seems to warrant some hope.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on April 13, 2017, 07:00:34 AM
I honestly think it would be nice to see a company do more upright synths. Really would like to see a modern Synclavier

(http://www.500sound.com/syncpics/ork-keyboard-white.jpg)

where everything is in front of you as opposed to bellow you.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sacred Synthesis on April 13, 2017, 07:21:53 AM
Absolutely!  I've always loved the Minimoog design, with its adjustable raised panel.  Even the Little Phatty and Sub 37 instruments offer this advantage in a fixed way.  It's especially practical with the top instrument in a stack.  If only DSI could incorporate this into their line.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on April 13, 2017, 07:48:34 AM
I've always loved the Minimoog design, with its adjustable raised panel.

+1 for adjustable panels.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sacred Synthesis on April 13, 2017, 07:54:51 AM
Mmmmmm....
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on April 13, 2017, 08:50:18 AM
Absolutely!  I've always loved the Minimoog design, with its adjustable raised panel.  Even the Little Phatty and Sub 37 instruments offer this advantage in a fixed way.  It's especially practical with the top instrument in a stack.  If only DSI could incorporate this into their line.

Actually DSI is one company I don't think the adjustable panel would work for. Unless Dave decides to partner with Cameron Jones and do a modern Synclavier. Can't really put it into words why, I just don't think it would fit DSI/Sequential
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sacred Synthesis on April 13, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
No, I don't expect it, but it sure would have been nice.  Imagine the Pro 2 with a raised panel.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Razmo on April 13, 2017, 12:13:37 PM
Well... in my case, I have lots of rack gear BEHIND the keyboard, so a raised panel like those would only give me problems reaching the other equipment.... but I can see the point in it being more "up front"... just would not work in my environment, so I'm happy if the developers AT LEAST make it flip'able so that everyone could get it the way they want it... luckily this will not be an issue with the Quantum, as this is 100% certain to enter my studio s my main and only controller keyboard synth...
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on April 13, 2017, 12:29:06 PM
I have lots of rack gear BEHIND the keyboard, so a raised panel like those would only give me problems reaching the other equipment....


+2 for adjustable panels
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sacred Synthesis on April 13, 2017, 12:53:08 PM
Well... in my case, I have lots of rack gear BEHIND the keyboard, so a raised panel like those would only give me problems reaching the other equipment.... but I can see the point in it being more "up front"... just would not work in my environment, so I'm happy if the developers AT LEAST make it flip'able so that everyone could get it the way they want it... luckily this will not be an issue with the Quantum, as this is 100% certain to enter my studio s my main and only controller keyboard synth...

Right.  If the panel angel is adjustable and can be set to lie flat, then it can work for everyone.  Again, the Minimoog is the perfect example.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sleep of Reason on October 19, 2017, 11:31:43 AM
It also would have been nice to have linear FM synthesis as well. I honestly would rather that than a VA engine cause VA at this price point is silly when you could get real analog synthesis (VCO or DCO) for the same amount.

While I agree, linear FM would be more interesting, I'm guessing the decision was due to them wanting to take advantage of the analog filter. Your second statement however makes your interest in the Solaris even more puzzling. Considering it's more expensive than this is going to be and doesn't even have an analog filter. Nor does it have true granular, etc.

Again, if you're looking for linear FM, there's certain better/cheaper options than the Solaris.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on October 19, 2017, 05:03:06 PM
It also would have been nice to have linear FM synthesis as well. I honestly would rather that than a VA engine cause VA at this price point is silly when you could get real analog synthesis (VCO or DCO) for the same amount.

While I agree, linear FM would be more interesting, I'm guessing the decision was due to them wanting to take advantage of the analog filter. Your second statement however makes your interest in the Solaris even more puzzling. Considering it's more expensive than this is going to be and doesn't even have an analog filter. Nor does it have true granular, etc.

Again, if you're looking for linear FM, there's certain better/cheaper options than the Solaris.

I hate the screen on the Quantum compared to the Solaris. The Solaris grew on me where the Quantum hasn’t. Hence the comment I made was in April.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: chysn on October 20, 2017, 03:37:10 AM
I'm a huge fan of Nave, and I'm glad to see some of that kick-assness make the move into hardware.

Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Razmo on October 20, 2017, 08:54:34 AM
I would rather have liked to see desktop synths/keyboard synths with each one of the synthesis types in the QUANTUM, so that the price could have been lowered... instead of this big monster that tries to be everything.... except FM of course...
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on October 20, 2017, 10:05:46 AM
I would rather have liked to see desktop synths/keyboard synths with each one of the synthesis types in the QUANTUM, so that the price could have been lowered... instead of this big monster that tries to be everything.... except FM of course...

Honestly all they had to do was take the multitimbrality of the Blofeld, the hands on approach of the Sledge and put analog filters on it. Pretty much a new PPG Wave (in blue of course). This just seems overly complicated and like I said I hate the touch screen. I think it’ll be a good five years before all the bugs are discovered in this thing. Sometimes it’s better just to keep it simple.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Razmo on October 21, 2017, 04:35:33 AM
I would rather have liked to see desktop synths/keyboard synths with each one of the synthesis types in the QUANTUM, so that the price could have been lowered... instead of this big monster that tries to be everything.... except FM of course...

Honestly all they had to do was take the multitimbrality of the Blofeld, the hands on approach of the Sledge and put analog filters on it. Pretty much a new PPG Wave (in blue of course). This just seems overly complicated and like I said I hate the touch screen. I think it’ll be a good five years before all the bugs are discovered in this thing. Sometimes it’s better just to keep it simple.

They sort of did that even before the Blofeld when they created the Q+... I'd say ...

I'm not a big fan of workstations disguised as "big dollar synths", and that is what I see both Solaris, Quantum, Kronos, Montage etc. as being... they tend to try to grasp too many things, ending up being mediocre in all aspects... if that is OK for some people, all the power to them, but for me, I'd rather have niche instruments that does less, but does it very well... even limitations can be creative tools, especially when the device sounds that much better in what it does.... and for me, the big ones always end up being too comprehensive... I simply loose interest in programing them because they can do so f****** much, but it takes forever to program something... I have had these types of "big synths" for over 20 years, and just recently switched to small dedicated synths, and I'm not looking back again... much better workflow, much faster, lot more unique since I went from using presets to creating my own sounds from scratch (because it is fast).

This is of course my personal view... people should do what inspire them to make music, and thank god we're all different :D
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on October 21, 2017, 09:00:36 AM
I would rather have liked to see desktop synths/keyboard synths with each one of the synthesis types in the QUANTUM, so that the price could have been lowered... instead of this big monster that tries to be everything.... except FM of course...

Honestly all they had to do was take the multitimbrality of the Blofeld, the hands on approach of the Sledge and put analog filters on it. Pretty much a new PPG Wave (in blue of course). This just seems overly complicated and like I said I hate the touch screen. I think it’ll be a good five years before all the bugs are discovered in this thing. Sometimes it’s better just to keep it simple.

They sort of did that even before the Blofeld when they created the Q+... I'd say ...

I'm not a big fan of workstations disguised as "big dollar synths", and that is what I see both Solaris, Quantum, Kronos, Montage etc. as being... they tend to try to grasp too many things, ending up being mediocre in all aspects... if that is OK for some people, all the power to them, but for me, I'd rather have niche instruments that does less, but does it very well... even limitations can be creative tools, especially when the device sounds that much better in what it does.... and for me, the big ones always end up being too comprehensive... I simply loose interest in programing them because they can do so f****** much, but it takes forever to program something... I have had these types of "big synths" for over 20 years, and just recently switched to small dedicated synths, and I'm not looking back again... much better workflow, much faster, lot more unique since I went from using presets to creating my own sounds from scratch (because it is fast).

This is of course my personal view... people should do what inspire them to make music, and thank god we're all different :D

Agree 100% although I’m not sure I’d put the Solaris in that category. It seems pretty hands on as opposed to menu diving.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sleep of Reason on October 21, 2017, 10:44:54 AM
Neither the Quantum or the Solaris are "workstations."
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 04, 2017, 05:28:34 PM
I don’t know if anyone has already seen this but... https://www.thomannmusic.com/waldorf_quantum.htm?ref=search_prv_4 (https://www.thomannmusic.com/waldorf_quantum.htm?ref=search_prv_4)
$3979, available Jan. 19th.


Anyone know if the enclosure is plastic or metal?
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on December 04, 2017, 07:01:42 PM
Anyone know if the enclosure is plastic or metal?

Metal.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 04, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Anyone know if the enclosure is plastic or metal?

Metal.
Thanks, Paul.  I thought you had said that before, but I couldn’t find it.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 28, 2017, 06:24:09 AM

Waldorf posted the specs for the Quantum....


Specifications
(subject to change without notice)
* Digital-Analog Polyphonic Synthesizer
* 61 Keys high-quality Fatar TP8 keybed
* 8 voices
* Dual timbral: split or layered mode with separate stereo audio outputs
* 3 stereo digital oscillators each capable of four synthesis algorithms
* Wavetable: Waldorf style with latest additions from Nave including speech synthesis, wavetable generation from audio and new features
* Waveform: Waveform with up to 8 simultaneous waves per Oscillator in detuned or chordal mode with hard-sync, warp & PWM as well as tunable noise
* Particle: Sampler in traditional and granular mode using multi-samples or live input
* Resonator: Exciter using multi-sampling plus filter bank sound model.
* Two analogue lowpass filters per voice each in 24 or 12 dB configuration using innovative link modes
* Digital former: Additional digital algorithms per voice like comb filter, high-pass, band-pass & notch filters (Nave, Largo or PPG models), bit-crusher, drive and more
* Flexible routing system for order of analog filters & digital former and individual oscillator routings
* 6 LFOs in poly and global mode with extensive parameter set
* 6 loopable envelopes
* Komplex: multistage LFO/envelope modulator
* Extensive modulation matrix with 40 slots and easy via-controller assignments
* Intuitive modulation assignment via panel elements and control LEDs
* Master effect rack of 5 slots for each timbre choosing from FX like phaser, flanger, chorus, reverb, drive, eq and more.
* Compressor for main output
* Arpeggiator
* Step sequencer with step recording, parameter automation and scale-based pitch quantization
* Microtonal pitch configurations capable of importing Skala scl files
* Capable of polyphonic aftertouch via external MIDI inputs
* Chord and latch buttons
* Unisono mode
* Module-based preset system for effects, oscillators, step-sequenzer and Komplex modulator
* Single-function potentiometer and encoder controls for intuitive editing
* Visualisation and deeper sound editing via context-sensitive high-resolution capacitive multi-touch display
* Spectrum Analyzer and Oscilloscope at various processing stages
* Up to 10,000 sound patch capacity organized by banks, attributes, author and patch number.
* Favourites lists for quick recall of sound patches like for set-lists etc.
* Pre-loaded with wide variety of patches by acclaimed sound designers like Howard Scarr
* MIDI output of local keyboard, wheels and assignable panel elements
* Automation of sound parameters from MIDI inputs via MIDI CC learn function
* Recording of samples from audio inputs or self-recording of audio outputs
* 4 GB*) internal Flash memory for presets, samples and wavetables
* Pre-loaded with more then 1 GB sample data
* Export & import of presets, sample & wavetable via SD card
* Import of Nave presets


Connections:
* 2x stereo audio out for main and aux timbres
* Stereo audio input for sample recording and real-time processing
* High-Quality 24bit A/D and D/A converters
* Headphone out with separate level adjustment
* Sustain pedal input
* Control pedal connector also capable of CV input (0-5V sensitivity)
* USB host type A connector for interfacing MIDI controller
* USB device type B connector for interfacing computer or other class-compliant MIDI USB hosts like iOS devices **)
* SD Card for sample/preset exchange and software updates
* DIN MIDI In, Out & Thru
* Integrated power supply unit
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Razmo on December 28, 2017, 10:27:15 AM
* Module-based preset system for effects, oscillators, step-sequenzer and Komplex modulator

Funny... the above is a bit like what I wished for in my Gear Rant thread... a synth with presets for parts of the engine, so that you can create new presets very fast by mixing different module based presets... this synth is most likely going to find it's way into my new studio containing few, but very specialized synths... it seems to have so much stuff in it, that you cannot find in many other hardware synths. The 4GB flash for samples, wavetables and presets is perfect! no need to mess around with the SD card too much... I like that.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Runningman67 on December 28, 2017, 01:19:05 PM
Hi Shaw, where did you find these specs please ?


Waldorf posted the specs for the Quantum....


Specifications
(subject to change without notice)
* Digital-Analog Polyphonic Synthesizer
* 61 Keys high-quality Fatar TP8 keybed
* 8 voices
* Dual timbral: split or layered mode with separate stereo audio outputs
* 3 stereo digital oscillators each capable of four synthesis algorithms
* Wavetable: Waldorf style with latest additions from Nave including speech synthesis, wavetable generation from audio and new features
* Waveform: Waveform with up to 8 simultaneous waves per Oscillator in detuned or chordal mode with hard-sync, warp & PWM as well as tunable noise
* Particle: Sampler in traditional and granular mode using multi-samples or live input
* Resonator: Exciter using multi-sampling plus filter bank sound model.
* Two analogue lowpass filters per voice each in 24 or 12 dB configuration using innovative link modes
* Digital former: Additional digital algorithms per voice like comb filter, high-pass, band-pass & notch filters (Nave, Largo or PPG models), bit-crusher, drive and more
* Flexible routing system for order of analog filters & digital former and individual oscillator routings
* 6 LFOs in poly and global mode with extensive parameter set
* 6 loopable envelopes
* Komplex: multistage LFO/envelope modulator
* Extensive modulation matrix with 40 slots and easy via-controller assignments
* Intuitive modulation assignment via panel elements and control LEDs
* Master effect rack of 5 slots for each timbre choosing from FX like phaser, flanger, chorus, reverb, drive, eq and more.
* Compressor for main output
* Arpeggiator
* Step sequencer with step recording, parameter automation and scale-based pitch quantization
* Microtonal pitch configurations capable of importing Skala scl files
* Capable of polyphonic aftertouch via external MIDI inputs
* Chord and latch buttons
* Unisono mode
* Module-based preset system for effects, oscillators, step-sequenzer and Komplex modulator
* Single-function potentiometer and encoder controls for intuitive editing
* Visualisation and deeper sound editing via context-sensitive high-resolution capacitive multi-touch display
* Spectrum Analyzer and Oscilloscope at various processing stages
* Up to 10,000 sound patch capacity organized by banks, attributes, author and patch number.
* Favourites lists for quick recall of sound patches like for set-lists etc.
* Pre-loaded with wide variety of patches by acclaimed sound designers like Howard Scarr
* MIDI output of local keyboard, wheels and assignable panel elements
* Automation of sound parameters from MIDI inputs via MIDI CC learn function
* Recording of samples from audio inputs or self-recording of audio outputs
* 4 GB*) internal Flash memory for presets, samples and wavetables
* Pre-loaded with more then 1 GB sample data
* Export & import of presets, sample & wavetable via SD card
* Import of Nave presets


Connections:
* 2x stereo audio out for main and aux timbres
* Stereo audio input for sample recording and real-time processing
* High-Quality 24bit A/D and D/A converters
* Headphone out with separate level adjustment
* Sustain pedal input
* Control pedal connector also capable of CV input (0-5V sensitivity)
* USB host type A connector for interfacing MIDI controller
* USB device type B connector for interfacing computer or other class-compliant MIDI USB hosts like iOS devices **)
* SD Card for sample/preset exchange and software updates
* DIN MIDI In, Out & Thru
* Integrated power supply unit
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 28, 2017, 01:41:04 PM
Hi Shaw, where did you find these specs please ?
Waldorf’s website.    https://www.waldorfmusic.com/en/spezifications-quantum (https://www.waldorfmusic.com/en/spezifications-quantum)
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: megamarkd on December 29, 2017, 06:16:38 PM
I'm not too fussed over the physical dimensions, but there are some who will rather upset that they are still not available.  I figure whatever the size, I'll need a third tier for my keyboard stand...

... it seems to have so much stuff in it, that you cannot find in many other hardware synths....

Or need to buy a bunch of small modules from boutique makers that may or may not work as advertised.  It's wonderful that Waldorf are making a synth that harks back to their efforts in the 90's, but I'm also scared of that considering the state of the Q firmware.....wait and game see I guess.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on December 29, 2017, 09:16:49 PM
Any FM capabilities?

Also $3-4K synth...and it’s not multitimbral in 2018?
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 29, 2017, 09:35:50 PM
Any FM capabilities?

Also $3-4K synth...and it’s not multitimbral in 2018?
Apparently no FM (or cookies if you read the gearslutz discussion)... and yes, I’d rather see multitimbrality, but that probably won’t  stop me from getting one.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: DavidDever on December 30, 2017, 07:40:04 AM
It's wonderful that Waldorf are making a synth that harks back to their efforts in the 90's, but I'm also scared of that considering the state of the Q firmware.....wait and game see I guess.

Yep - a solid, largely bug-free (i.e., well-tested) core would be a perfectly fine place to start, features aside.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 30, 2017, 10:27:06 AM
Yep - a solid, largely bug-free (i.e., well-tested) core would be a perfectly fine place to start, features aside.
Indeed, but with that feature set, I'm not expecting it to be bug free anytime soon...
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on December 30, 2017, 01:01:41 PM
Any FM capabilities?

Also $3-4K synth...and it’s not multitimbral in 2018?
Apparently no FM (or cookies if you read the gearslutz discussion)... and yes, I’d rather see multitimbrality, but that probably won’t  stop me from getting one.

Oh yeah I'm not saying the synth is bad it's just a bit bewildering that a digital synth this expensive doesn't have FM. It sort of feels like an oversight. Especially given the FM and multitimbrality of their own much cheaper Blofeld.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on December 30, 2017, 01:10:07 PM
Any FM capabilities?

Also $3-4K synth...and it’s not multitimbral in 2018?
Apparently no FM (or cookies if you read the gearslutz discussion)... and yes, I’d rather see multitimbrality, but that probably won’t  stop me from getting one.

Oh yeah I'm not saying the synth is bad it's just a bit bewildering that a digital synth this expensive doesn't have FM. It sort of feels like an oversight. Especially given the FM and multitimbrality of their own much cheaper Blofeld.
Perhaps they want people to continue to have a reason to buy the Blofeld... or with LFOs that get into Audio rates, maybe there are some FM tones to be had from the Quantum anyway.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on January 24, 2018, 05:45:02 AM
Waldorf's official product page is online now: https://waldorfmusic.com/en/quantum
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on January 25, 2018, 04:02:55 PM
Extensive NAMM video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1z8TnVEZ4
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on January 25, 2018, 04:36:31 PM
Extensive NAMM video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1z8TnVEZ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1z8TnVEZ4)
That’s the best Quantum vidéo so far....
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on January 25, 2018, 04:42:23 PM
Extensive NAMM video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1z8TnVEZ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql1z8TnVEZ4)
That’s the best Quantum vidéo so far....

They've come a long way since last Superbooth, where I had a chance to check it out. Seems like it has truly been a coding tour de force for the past few months. Quite an impressive bunch of features and options.
Title: Re: MESSE'17: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on January 25, 2018, 05:20:21 PM
I was really impressed with the feature list and depth of programming. I’d love to see some more voices (at least 12 since it’s bi-timbral), but that won’t stop me from being interested.
What I can’t wait for is more sound samples.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on January 27, 2018, 04:21:01 AM
As this is no longer exclusively related to Messe '17, I modified the thread title.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on March 09, 2018, 01:13:02 PM
 New photos are online: https://www.waldorfmusic.com/en/pictures-quantum
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Kaielsz on March 20, 2018, 09:45:46 AM
Very excited for this synth! Have had it on Preorder for months now. Some people complain that it isnt an FM synth but that doesnt stop it from being able to achieve formant synthesis. The artist BT has explained this while showing a demo of the synth as he was making patch presets for the release of the unit.

All in all this synth is really bringing a lot to the table. I cant wait to sync it up with other gear in my studio and do some sound design with it.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on March 28, 2018, 07:32:09 AM
I really hope we see some better demos online....I'm slowly warming up to it....especially would like to see some examples of it's sampling abilities.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on March 28, 2018, 08:49:45 AM
The manual is online at least: https://waldorfmusic.com/en/downloads-quantum
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on March 28, 2018, 09:50:30 AM
I reminds me a bit of the Synclaiver in certain parts. Hope Waldorf provided some of the PCM samples in the Waldorf even just for a reference or example of the sampling sounds.

Insanely expensive though...almost $6k here.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: MoogieBoogieMan on April 05, 2018, 08:41:10 PM
It says "Waveform with up to 8 simultaneous waves per Oscillator in detuned or chordal mode."  Does this mean you can get 8 voices of unison per oscillator without affecting polyphony?  So you could get 24 voices per note up to 8 notes?
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: DavidDever on April 06, 2018, 10:20:22 AM
It says "Waveform with up to 8 simultaneous waves per Oscillator in detuned or chordal mode."  Does this mean you can get 8 voices of unison per oscillator without affecting polyphony?  So you could get 24 voices per note up to 8 notes?

That's how I read it, yes.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on April 11, 2018, 08:35:46 AM
New video from MESSE 2018: https://youtu.be/A7hlzwK_hD0
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sulqué on April 11, 2018, 05:54:35 PM
Both videos from sonicstate, Exodus Digital Valkyrie and the Quantum, are lacking in the low range. One machine, maybe, but both?
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 25, 2018, 01:37:00 PM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on June 25, 2018, 01:41:13 PM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples. 
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 25, 2018, 02:52:51 PM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on June 25, 2018, 03:29:23 PM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.

You can sample and resample whatever you like with the Quantum. It just doesn't come with a typical sample library, that's all.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 25, 2018, 06:38:43 PM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.

You can sample and resample whatever you like with the Quantum. It just doesn't come with a typical sample library, that's all.

On their website...
“It’s worth noting that the sample use in the Quantum is always within a synthesizer's sonic context, and it is not meant to work as a “bread and butter” sample keyboard to play back like traditional sampling instruments nor third party libraries.”
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: ddp on June 25, 2018, 07:29:17 PM
So, think of it as lossy.  The Quantum looks cool.  I love the display.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 25, 2018, 07:42:06 PM
So, think of it as lossy.  The Quantum looks cool.  I love the display.

You know...the display looks nice and all but I was watching the Anderson’s videos on this and there’s a lot of menu diving, modes, pages when programming and even in the demonstration there were moments were he was like “wait...how do I go back to that page?”

As I’ve said the Quantum is incredibly powerful and has lots of capabilities but almost to the detriment to the ease of programming.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: ddp on June 25, 2018, 07:49:56 PM
I just love waveform displays.  The new Korg Prologue has one too.  Every synth should have one, it's 2018.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 25, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
I just love waveform displays.  The new Korg Prologue has one too.  Every synth should have one, it's 2018.

I think reason why the Prologue And Quantum have it is because they both have digital waveforms. It would get a bit redundant on an analog synth. The Minilogue having one is more for educational purposes.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: ddp on June 25, 2018, 10:08:05 PM
I see nothing better to display on an OLED than the waveform coming out of the synth.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sleep of Reason on June 25, 2018, 10:13:54 PM
It definitely would help to have that displayed on an analog synth for more than educational reasons. Much more important than the oscilloscope for the waveform, would be the ability to see instant visualization of where the filter is currently set at for example. It makes no sense to have an OLED display and not have these features.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 25, 2018, 11:32:47 PM
I guess it’s all personally preferences. For me, I don’t like having any type of menu or OLED display on an analog synth. I’d much rather just have the patch numbers like the P6 and OB6 than anything else.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sleep of Reason on June 26, 2018, 12:03:00 AM
Most people want retro sounds, yet at the same time they want all the modern benefits that help streamline the workflow. You mention touchscreens and menu diving a lot even though good screens make life much easier and even allow for deeper features. DSI makes phenomenal sounding instruments no doubt, but they're way behind in certain areas. Perhaps people want three OLED screens for some reason, though there's certainly better ways to utilize the main OLED screen. My favorite example is, why would you have a thousand preset slots available and no on-board categories? But hey, I know the P12 at least shows the envelop visually, which is a start.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Paul Dither on June 26, 2018, 02:13:57 AM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.

You can sample and resample whatever you like with the Quantum. It just doesn't come with a typical sample library, that's all.

On their website...
“It’s worth noting that the sample use in the Quantum is always within a synthesizer's sonic context, and it is not meant to work as a “bread and butter” sample keyboard to play back like traditional sampling instruments nor third party libraries.”

I know. It's not meant to be a typical sample playback device for already existing sample collections (like KONTAKT for example), albeit shipped units will definitely contain samples (mono and stereo single and multi samples in WAV/AIFF format). Nevertheless, whatever recordings/samples you already have in those formats, can be imported into the Quantum via SD card. And you can sample whatever you like into it (via mic, phone, or whatever source) and edit, process, and manipulate it without any external tools, or resample sounds you did with the synth engines, or synthesize sample content as a new wavetable. So the whole idea is to be able to switch seemlessly between the different engines. So, for example, you can sample something with a mic, a phone, or a connected mixer and then process or use that sample either in the Particle Generator or Resonator engine. You can then sample your finished sound again and then have it analyzed in order to be used as a wavetable. And so on.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 26, 2018, 11:58:40 AM
Most people want retro sounds, yet at the same time they want all the modern benefits that help streamline the workflow. You mention touchscreens and menu diving a lot even though good screens make life much easier and even allow for deeper features. DSI makes phenomenal sounding instruments no doubt, but they're way behind in certain areas. Perhaps people want three OLED screens for some reason, though there's certainly better ways to utilize the main OLED screen. My favorite example is, why would you have a thousand preset slots available and no on-board categories? But hey, I know the P12 at least shows the envelop visually, which is a start.

I certainly understand why people want them but they are also the reason I'm not drawn to the Montage or Quantum. I can't stand touch screens...even though most of my computers have them I often just use a mouse. I just think it defeats the whole purpose of an analog instrument and I'd much rather have no menu at all. That's just me though.

I guess DSI's philisophy is (rightly so in my opinion) is to get away from the computer and let your ears be your guide. If you want deeper editing you can use a software editor for said instrument.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 26, 2018, 11:59:49 AM
I was just reading up on the Quantum's sampling capabilities. Apparently it is not for "Bread and Butter" samples such as Pianos, Saxophones, Choirs etc...those apparently don't work well, instead it's meant for "synth" type samples.

Also there are no on board samples pre loading from the factory from what I've read.
I seem to recall hearing in one of the product demo videos that this was not meant to be a ROMpler, but rather the synthesis engine is their more as a mechanism for getting material into the synth for the granular engine.


It does seem odd though to have sampling capability without any preset samples.

Kind of defeats the purpose of sampling if you can only sample specific sounds. For the price point that’s a bit ridiculous. Even the Solaris allows you to load in pianos, saxophones and other samples.

You can sample and resample whatever you like with the Quantum. It just doesn't come with a typical sample library, that's all.

On their website...
“It’s worth noting that the sample use in the Quantum is always within a synthesizer's sonic context, and it is not meant to work as a “bread and butter” sample keyboard to play back like traditional sampling instruments nor third party libraries.”

I know. It's not meant to be a typical sample playback device for already existing sample collections (like KONTAKT for example), albeit shipped units will definitely contain samples (mono and stereo single and multi samples in WAV/AIFF format). Nevertheless, whatever recordings/samples you already have in those formats, can be imported into the Quantum via SD card. And you can sample whatever you like into it (via mic, phone, or whatever source) and edit, process, and manipulate it without any external tools, or resample sounds you did with the synth engines, or synthesize sample content as a new wavetable. So the whole idea is to be able to switch seemlessly between the different engines. So, for example, you can sample something with a mic, a phone, or a connected mixer and then process or use that sample either in the Particle Generator or Resonator engine. You can then sample your finished sound again and then have it analyzed in order to be used as a wavetable. And so on.

I figured just adding the onboard samples from the Blofeld Keyboard would have been a no brainer. Even just to showcase what you can do with said samples.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Shaw on June 26, 2018, 12:44:34 PM
I figured just adding the onboard samples from the Blofeld Keyboard would have been a no brainer. Even just to showcase what you can do with said samples.
Perhaps the samples are in a different format and they just didn't want to F with it?!?!? 
Makes sense that the samples might be in a different format if you're doing a different kind of synthesis (granular as opposed to just sample play back)...
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: Sleep of Reason on June 26, 2018, 03:44:46 PM
I just think it defeats the whole purpose of an analog instrument and I'd much rather have no menu at all.

Well if said technology is not utilized to its potential, then you might as well just use LED displays and panel switches.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: megamarkd on June 26, 2018, 05:48:07 PM
I don't understand how displays don't belong on analogue gear, but this is getting off topic.

Sampling synths that are worked around some massive pre-existing library, well they aren't really the sort of synth that Waldorf make for a start.  For some reason Waldorf seem to be the only ones who have stayed with the idea that samples don't have to be used for creating authentic replications of some other instrument.  Romplers exist already and E-Mu were doing amazing orchestras before Gigasampler was born and I seem to remember hearing an amazing piano on someone's new synth just recently, quite nearby to here in fact, I think even in the same building......
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: LoboLives on June 27, 2018, 10:09:20 AM
I just think it defeats the whole purpose of an analog instrument and I'd much rather have no menu at all.

Well if said technology is not utilized to its potential, then you might as well just use LED displays and panel switches.

Which I’d be fine with. It’s one of thr things I love about the P6 and OB6.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: SandyS1 on February 11, 2019, 07:00:42 AM
I finally got mine. I'm definitely in a honeymoon stage, and it's killed my GAS for right now. Overall I don't find the interface as intuitive as the P12, but the range of sounds is...wow. Gain staging is definitely important to watch, though.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: jok3r on August 22, 2019, 07:45:47 AM
I tried this thing today for the first time. And man... it‘s a monster. It‘s too much for me. I was sitting in front of this beast and didn‘t know what to do. Well, yeah, I did some basic analog sounds and I think it did that very well. But that‘s maximum 1000/4000€ they want to have for the Quantum. I‘m not a synthesist enough to handle the rest of this machine.

What I instantly liked is the display. It shows everything you want to see with no noticeable lag and the touch response is working fine. I don‘t really need a touchscreen in a synth, but the information and visualizations of the things you do, are really nice. The Fatar keybed feels great... as in every other synth with this keybed.

I can understand now, why some of the more experienced synthesists in this forum want to have this thing. I just did a look through the key hole today and it was fascinating and frightening at once.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: OceanMachine on September 12, 2019, 05:04:32 PM
Just got mine in. The vids I've seen of it online left me cold and had me wondering why they even bothered with analog filters, but whatever they did, it's immediately apparent once hearing it in person that it was all well worth it. Got to say, coolest hybrid (and digital in general) synth since the PPG Wave. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants a single synth, but so long as you have at least one nice VCO poly, this would be the only other synth you would need for the foreseeable future, as the possibilities are endless. Also, not for anyone who simply wants immediate results. You could get lost in it for hours making a patch that's not exactly what one would call musically practical. Definitely a synth for synth nerds.
Title: Re: Waldorf Quantum - 8 Voice Hybrid
Post by: megamarkd on September 14, 2019, 08:22:40 PM
Just got mine in. The vids I've seen of it online left me cold and had me wondering why they even bothered with analog filters, but whatever they did, it's immediately apparent once hearing it in person that it was all well worth it. Got to say, coolest hybrid (and digital in general) synth since the PPG Wave. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants a single synth, but so long as you have at least one nice VCO poly, this would be the only other synth you would need for the foreseeable future, as the possibilities are endless. Also, not for anyone who simply wants immediate results. You could get lost in it for hours making a patch that's not exactly what one would call musically practical. Definitely a synth for synth nerds.

Hate you!  "Look at you! You've gone too far! You're a hideous blob of stolen organs!" ;)
I was in the store the other week and mentioned to the sales guy "do I buy a Quantum or do I buy a 2nd hand car?"  He laughed, but surprisingly didn't mention the One.  I think I'd buy the Quantum considering it'll outlast any 2nd hand car at the same price point (and way more fun!)