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Title: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: Freiburg on July 06, 2023, 02:37:38 PM
The filter of my rev2 tracks perfectly but is consistently approx. +25 cents off. Did follow all calibration wisdom I could find here, but no change. Oscillators are 100% in tune.

Any advice very much appreciated.

Christian
Title: Re: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: christianmeyer on July 09, 2023, 02:36:46 PM
Hi, make sure the Key Amount is set to 64, this 100% of filter tracking
Title: Re: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: christianmeyer on July 12, 2023, 12:16:01 PM
Hi

You’re right, mine is the same when I disengage both oscillators. I don’t think the resonant filter will track in perfect tune without an oscillator to lock on to. It’s perfectly playable but considerably sharp or flat up the length of the keyboard
Title: Re: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: creativespiral on July 12, 2023, 08:23:34 PM
The filter of my rev2 tracks perfectly but is consistently approx. +25 cents off. Did follow all calibration wisdom I could find here, but no change. Oscillators are 100% in tune.

Any advice very much appreciated.

Christian

It's not an ideal solution, and a bit of pain to setup, but if you absolutely need to be able to fine tune the cutoff position to play the filter, you can do a trick where you:

1. Set the sequencer to Gated Mode
2. Set the Gated Sequencer to Key Step Mode
3. On Seq 1, Step 1 set a relatively low value like 24
4. On Seq 1, Step 2 set it to Reset
5. Don't set Seq Destination
6. In Mod Matrix, use a slot to route "Seq 1" to your intended destination "Cutoff"
7. Adjust the Mod Amount +/- until the Filter is nominally tuned in center of keybed

This method allows scaling down the modulation amounts.

You can definitely get it very close to nominal tuning / tracking, at least in a three to four octave range, using this workaround.  I've used this in a few patches, where I want a well tuned Sine Wave Sub Bass on one layer, or for some sonar type sounds.
Title: Re: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: Freiburg on July 13, 2023, 02:11:54 PM
Hi, make sure the Key Amount is set to 64, this 100% of filter tracking

As mentioned above it tracks perfectly.....
Title: Re: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: Freiburg on July 15, 2023, 11:35:03 AM
The filter of my rev2 tracks perfectly but is consistently approx. +25 cents off. Did follow all calibration wisdom I could find here, but no change. Oscillators are 100% in tune.

Any advice very much appreciated.

Christian

It's not an ideal solution, and a bit of pain to setup, but if you absolutely need to be able to fine tune the cutoff position to play the filter, you can do a trick where you:

1. Set the sequencer to Gated Mode
2. Set the Gated Sequencer to Key Step Mode
3. On Seq 1, Step 1 set a relatively low value like 24
4. On Seq 1, Step 2 set it to Reset
5. Don't set Seq Destination
6. In Mod Matrix, use a slot to route "Seq 1" to your intended destination "Cutoff"
7. Adjust the Mod Amount +/- until the Filter is nominally tuned in center of keybed

This method allows scaling down the modulation amounts.

You can definitely get it very close to nominal tuning / tracking, at least in a three to four octave range, using this workaround.  I've used this in a few patches, where I want a well tuned Sine Wave Sub Bass on one layer, or for some sonar type sounds.

Thank you. Another easier way is to use Audio Mod. BTW I am using your VCM sounds and your technique. Good work!

Christian
Title: Re: Filter not in tune despite calibration
Post by: creativespiral on July 15, 2023, 12:18:32 PM
The filter of my rev2 tracks perfectly but is consistently approx. +25 cents off. Did follow all calibration wisdom I could find here, but no change. Oscillators are 100% in tune.

Any advice very much appreciated.

Christian

It's not an ideal solution, and a bit of pain to setup, but if you absolutely need to be able to fine tune the cutoff position to play the filter, you can do a trick where you:

1. Set the sequencer to Gated Mode
2. Set the Gated Sequencer to Key Step Mode
3. On Seq 1, Step 1 set a relatively low value like 24
4. On Seq 1, Step 2 set it to Reset
5. Don't set Seq Destination
6. In Mod Matrix, use a slot to route "Seq 1" to your intended destination "Cutoff"
7. Adjust the Mod Amount +/- until the Filter is nominally tuned in center of keybed

This method allows scaling down the modulation amounts.

You can definitely get it very close to nominal tuning / tracking, at least in a three to four octave range, using this workaround.  I've used this in a few patches, where I want a well tuned Sine Wave Sub Bass on one layer, or for some sonar type sounds.

Thank you. Another easier way is to use Audio Mod. BTW I am using your VCM sounds and your technique. Good work!

Christian

Interesting... I should experiment with Filter Audio Mod more -- have mostly just used it to give flutter to wind/brass sounds.   

Glad you're enjoying the VCM sounds!   Cheers.