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Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages

Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« on: February 19, 2016, 03:19:09 AM »
Hi,
I'm using the latest Beta and my pro 2 will not respond to midi CC for Filter 1 Cutoff or OSc 2 Pitch. I have the Global page set to receive midi CC's (via USB), not using NRPN (ableton doesn't send them anyway). Im sending the CC from Ableton live for a clip (nothing fancy here). The Pro2 receives/plays notes midi properly. Global midi channel.
Any ideas?

Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 04:00:00 AM »
Hi,

I just tried Filter 1 cutoff (CC 102) and Osc 2 Pitch (CC 75) from Live here and it works fine.

Are any of the CCs working?


Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 12:56:30 PM »
i will try again today - i was getting no cc action at all

Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2016, 06:24:32 AM »
Hi,

I just tried Filter 1 cutoff (CC 102) and Osc 2 Pitch (CC 75) from Live here and it works fine.

Are any of the CCs working?

Hi, thanks a lot, it's working with CC102 and CC75! But where did you find those informations?
On the manual Filter1 cutoff is CC95, Osc 2 pitch CC68. So those informations about CC numbers are wrong on the manual, and i still can't find the CC for Sliders position/pressure... DSI please help me !

Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2016, 09:17:47 AM »
Mmmm, looks like the manual is wrong!

To find out what CC to use I just looked at what the Pro2 was sending when I changed those controls. I used an app called MidiMonitor for the mac but you could do the same using Live by recording a clip and looking at what CC info was recorded.

Here are the sliders:

Slider 1 Pos = CC14
Slider 1 Pressure = CC16
Slider 2 Pos = CC15
Slider 3 Pressure = CC17


Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2016, 03:35:25 AM »
Thanks a lot, i going to collect the CC by this way :) It's can be great that DSI make an addendum for the CC list!

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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2016, 02:35:26 PM »
We are already aware of the mismatch in the current documentation and you will find a corrected list below.  It should be rolled into a future manual addendum.

CORRECTED ASSIGNMENTS
1 Mod Wheel
2 Breath
3 BPM
4 Foot Controller
5 Glide Mode
6 Data Entry MSB
7 Volume
8 Osc 1 Sub Octave
9 Distortion Amount
10 Expression
14 Slider 1 Position
15 Slider 2 Position
16 Slider 1 Pressure
17 Slider 2 Pressure
18 Delay 1 Time
19 Delay 1 Sync
20 Delay 1 Amount
21 Delay 1 Feedback
23 Delay 2 Time
24 Delay 2 Sync
25 Delay 2 Amount
26 Delay 2 Feedback
28 Delay 3 Time
29 Delay 3 Sync
30 Delay 3 Amount
31 Delay 3 Feedback
32 Bank Select
33 Delay 4 Time
34 Delay 4 Sync
35 Delay 4 Amount
36 Delay 4 Feedback
38 Data Entry LSB
39 Program Volume
40 VCA Envelope Amt
41 Velocity to VCA Env Amt
42 VCA Env Delay
43 VCA Env Attack
44 VCA Env Decay
45 VCA Env Sustain
46 VCA Env Release
47 F1 Envelope Amt
48 Velocity to F1 Env Amt
49 F1 Env Delay
50 F1 Env Attack
51 F1 Env Decay
52 F1 Env Sustain
53 F1 Env Release
54 Osc 1 Glide Amt
55 Osc 2 Glide Amt
56 Osc 3 Glide Amt
57 Osc 4 Glide Amt
58 Arpeggiator On/Off
59 Arpeggiator Mode
60 Arpeggiaor Range
61 Arp Auto Latch On/Off
62 Seq/Arp Clock Divide
63 Arp Repeats
64 Pedal 2
65 Glide On/Off
67 Osc 1 Pitch
68 Osc 1 Fine Tune
69 Osc 1 Level
70 Osc 1 Shape
71 Osc 1 Shape Mod
72 Osc 1 FM
73 Osc 1 AM
74 Brightness
75 Osc 2 Pitch
76 Osc 2 Fine Tune
77 Osc 2 Level
78 Osc 2 Shape
79 Osc 2 Shape Mod
80 Osc 2 FM
81 Osc 2 AM
82 Osc 3 Pitch
83 Osc 3 Fine Tune
84 Osc 3 Level
85 Osc 3 Shape
86 Osc 3 Shape Mod
87 Osc 3 FM
88 Osc 3 AM
89 Osc 4 Pitch
90 Osc 4 Fine Tune
91 Osc 4 Level
92 Osc 4 Shape
93 Osc 4 Shape Mod
94 Osc 4 FM
95 Osc 4 AM
96 Data Inc
97 Data Dec
98 NRPN LSB
99 NRPN MSB
100 RPN LSB
101 RPN MSB
102 F1 Frequency
103 F1 Resonance
104 F1 Key Amount
106 F2 Frequency
107 F2 Resonance
108 F2 Key Amount
109 Girth
110 Air
111 Hack
112 Decimate
113 Drive
114 Feedback Amount
115 Feedback Tuning
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2016, 09:03:23 AM »
I have also a quite long series of minor remarks for the manual. Where do you prefer to get them posted? Here in the forum as a new thread? New topic in Tech Support? Existing topic I had opened with Andy on Tech Support?
Best regards!
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2016, 01:59:41 PM »
I have also a quite long series of minor remarks for the manual. Where do you prefer to get them posted? Here in the forum as a new thread? New topic in Tech Support? Existing topic I had opened with Andy on Tech Support?
Best regards!

I have some too. So if there's any interest we can add them up together.

Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2016, 09:03:45 PM »
There's always interest in correcting typos in the manual, especially for MIDI implementation. Please email our dedicated support channel with your findings: support (at) davesmithinstruments.com
Thanks!
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2016, 01:28:06 AM »
especially for MIDI implementation

Working on it! ;)
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2016, 09:32:04 AM »
@dslsynth and goodweather: Maybe we can share what we've found so far via PM before we send anything in. That way we could merge everything into one document and also allow for a bit of double-checking.

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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2016, 09:47:33 AM »
Great idea, Paul Dither! What I am doing is generating a full set of sysex tables directly from the OS sources (and a bit of dslsynth codery) so its difficult to merge as of currently.

There are other options than merging via a PM. One is to keep it in public and simply let the thread starter merge it into one document. Another option is to send it directly to DSI support and let them do the typo merging (I am sure they will love us for that).
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2016, 09:50:21 AM »
Great idea, Paul Dither! What I am doing is generating a full set of sysex tables directly from the OS sources (and a bit of dslsynth codery) so its difficult to merge as of currently.

There are other options than merging via a PM. One is to keep it in public and simply let the thread starter merge it into one document. Another option is to send it directly to DSI support and let them do the typo merging (I am sure they will love us for that).

I guess what I had in mind was just to bundle everything before sending it off individually, which would make it easier to deal with.

A dedicated thread is another option too. Would you like me to create one that's exclusively dedicated to that job?

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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2016, 09:54:09 AM »
A dedicated thread is another option too. Would you like me to create one that's exclusively dedicated to that job?

If you have the time for it then please do so. My only feedback is new stuff I am generating and possibly some obvious ones in the sequence part of the existing sysex tables.
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2016, 04:27:37 AM »
Concerning CC messages I realized that filter routing and filter state of filter 2 (LP/NOTCH/HP) are not supported by standard CC messages (they are supported by NRPN messages).
There are still some gaps in the assignment list that could be used for these parameters (11-13, 105, ...). I really miss these two parameters when I'm using cirklon to sculpt the sound with its internal pots.
Would be great if you could implement this with the next update.

Thanx in advance!
steff
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Re: Pro 2 not responding to Midi CC messages
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2017, 10:44:14 PM »
Seriously 1 year later and still no midi CC chart in manual that's correct? Addendum doesn't have it either. Just wasted an entire night banging head against wall only to google this thread in disgust... Typical DSI. Not a shocker...Hi Carson.

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